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Lol at guilds with microphone Requirement, and log in when you play.
makasouleater69
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I must be anti social or something lol. I keep reading these guild pages where they require you to be logged into their microphone chat every time you play. I got kicked out of a guild for not doing that once to. I mean seriously, just look at the posts here 90% of them are some one complaining, look at this post its me complaining. Its tolerable to read it in my head in a monotone voice, but to be forced to hear 15 people bitch about something every time i play a game.................
I guess thats what people like though, I will have a hard time playing mmos i guess. I remember the days of UO, and everquest we seemed to manage doing pvp, and hard mob fights with out listening to each other bitch about how our days are going on vent.
I can understand in a game, where voice communication is helpful to make every one work as a team easier. Seriously though every time i play....... I tried it with imperial dreams over at mortal online, which they were one reason i quit the game. Every time i would log into there chat, while i played. It would be 3 of them ethier complaining about something in their lives, or something in the game. So i didnt join it any more, and told them when you want to do something important with me, let me know ill log on.
Here is one from dark fall.
The Originals is a new clan with experienced players seeking members. We are looking for vets and Newer players, we are willing to help you PvE for Prowess and Train you for PvP. We have access to nice cities and nice little alliance. We want to stay relatively small and focus on teamwork instead of numbers.
We Require you have a mic, log in mumble when online, be mature in coms, at least 45k prowess or close so we know you are dedicated to the game.
Thanks and have a great day!
As i said i must be anti social, i really dont want to hear any of you talk about how you think dark fall sucks, or how your day was, or what you think about the world state of affairs. If you want to type it to me, and i can read it when i feel like it sure. To be forced to put up with some one shit talk every time i want to play a game, makes me want to puke lol.
Maybe its because i have kids, and i have to listen to their nonsense every day for hours on end, that i dont want to listen to other peoples i dono. But seriously, i hope i can find a guild in dark fall, that wont require me to sit and listen to them bull shit for 12 hours a day, so i can be apart of a team. All for in a battle, but i really anit playing online games to make friends to hang out with out side of the game it self.
If i wanted to hear people complain about their lives, and bull shit i would go to a bar, where atleast there is pretty women, and beer lol.
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Fully agree.
Happy to chat when I am in the mood or when the guild is doing something together, but nope, not interested in listening to other people talk about stuff for 4 hours when I settle in for a sesh.
A lot of guilds alienate and lose a lot of great players simply because their leader and officers cannot be bothered to type TBH.
But, hey, good leadership is rare enough when the management is being paid to do a job, there is no reason to think it would be any better when they are self appointed and in it mostly for themselves.
I'm the other way. I pretty much ignore type chat and don't really want to group with people if they're not on a mic. I don't want to have to type everything out.
I don't really understand the issue with using voice coms. You talk to people every day without worrying about what your voice sounds like yet put a headset on and suddenly it becomes "weird" for them or it breaks immersion...or whatever.
This... I have been part of a guild like that and I quickly parted ways. Trying to read quests and 10-15 people chat was not fun IMO but guilds are about being like minded and there are people that like gaming like that. I hope they find their fill of people as thats what makes them happy.
Go to a different channel in the chat program?
Those guilds are focused on being social ( ironic to see a few names here fighting against that ) So the idea is to form a group and quest together not sit in the main lobby chatting to all 20+ people...unless that's your thing.
When I played SWTOR you couldn't hear the chat while ppl were talking in mumble so I'd just mute it while I was in a cut scene then turn it back on after so I can talk with people while I quested. but this is obviously just a situation where if it's not for you it's not for you there's no explaining it.
There's nothing wrong with playing either way but the attitude of lol@people who want this is pretty narrow minded.
No one here has said they have a problem with coms in general, or how their voice sounds, or immersion, or weird...
It has been said simply that we just don't want to listen to people droning on about their boring shit for hours on end. Everyone I have read here has said that they are happy to get on when doing something as a group.
Your post does bring up something interesting though... It does underline how divisive the use of comms can be to a guild, once people stop typing completely and start ignoring people in chat.
I do both. I type and I speak, but then I am an inclusive player.
Well I am glad I am not the only one:)
And prolly shouldent of put lol at guild. It still makes me laugh though, when i think about getting kicked out of that guild, because i didnt want to listen to them talk about their lives all day. Also I dont use a head set, they hurt my ears, and i need to be able to hear what my kids are doing, so that is another thing. Not only am I having to listen to every one talk, but my whole family hears it, and they get annoyed with it more then i do.
When i play with the voice chat, where its about the game ect, its for maybe 2 or 3 hours at a time. I some times though play 12 hours a day, off and on though out the day, while i clean and take care of my kids. Which is why i got kicked out of the guild, because they would see me doing my thing, and wounder why i wasent in their team speak. When they wanted to group up to go hunting, i was in there.
I tried sitting in it for one day........
I dont even listen to my real life friends like that lol. I dont want to hear my real life friends voices for 12 hours. Hanging out with them for 3 hours a day is quite enough for me.
The real reason i bring it up, is because dark fall, and mortal online are 2 games that if you dont play with other people your going to not be able to do anything. Just like everquest one, i dono about now, but back when i played u needed to group up to get the good stuff, and to level. Though i dont understand where the need for commanding people around came from lol. I remember every one knew how to play their role in the party. No need for some one to bark out commands.
If there was only 1 guild in the world or you did not have free choice to join any guild you want then you might have a point but honestly, you argument is as valid as bringing a disco to a library and complaining when people tell you to be quiet.
Simple solution is don't join a guild you are not comfortable in, either their rules or the people. Just move on, no need to make a fuss about it with anyone other then the guild you disagree with.
When I play Guild Wars 2 if I'm doing World vs World I'll usually get on teamspeak, especially if my guildies are on. Usualy not everyone that's on the map is in the same channel in teamspeak so it helps to type and talk especially if you're a commander.
If I play WoW I'm a lot less likely to be on a voice chat unless I'm in a raid or I'm with people I know. I used to use Ventrilo all the time with my guild there, but now I play WoW to get away from people lol.
When I group with people to do stuff together I'm perfectly fine with getting on whatever chat client they use. Being told I need to spend all my online time connected to their voice chat is big no no however, and I will instantly avoid those guilds.
Often when I'm playing I'm trying to follow the game's storyline, and I don't need to hear a bunch of people talk all over the NPCs I'm trying to listen to, or completely ruin my concentration when it's an old school "read the quest text" system like WoW.
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I only use voice with REAL LIFE friends, when grouping demands it and when I wish to be social if not directly linked to game play (typically with a very few in guild I know enough to converse with ... and are capable of it). I know this is a rare thing for many gamers ... actually knowing someone you meet with face to face every week. I may grow to care about people I only talk to online to a point but far too many confuse online socializing as real community. Community is LOCAL to you. It is friends and family that must be allowed into your life and persist even if your internet is cut off. It is the foundation of human society and cannot be emulated by a microphone. If you think it can be you are mistaken and will learn hard life lessons someday. You cannot argue against this. I have played online games through my entire adult life and have personally seen every tragedy that comes from only having an online life through those I have played with, heard directly about and seen personally with people I have met.
That said I have nothing against voice chat when it has it's use. I sometimes log in to simply chat but it is on my terms. I expect challenging game play to require it as well. The issue with it is that a guild typically has dozens if not hundreds of players and voice ALWAYS becomes dominated by the few most vocal ... and they certainly often are not the ones you actually want to hear from. Complaining and confrontation is common. Raid leading is often a practice of gaming malpractice. Sadly this has become the norm for most guilds (not all ... most). There is only one way to avoid this: do not join these type of guilds. It can be a very volatile place to be.
Voice is a tool to utilize when it helps. Nothing more. A open forum for chat falls apart when too many participants are involved. It simply turns into a lecture after that or worse off a debate with inevitable sides taking promoting conflict. These guild leaders do not realize the limits of the tool and fail to align it with the game they are playing. If they want such restrictions they need to limit their guild to the size that is needed to accomplish they goals instead using the power trip to influence far more. Voice chat obliterates any sense of RP through game play for most. You cannot voice RP with dozens of players in chat doing different things. You cannot concentrate on those 1 to 3 others you do small grouping with. In 15 years of playing mmos every great memory formed has been through actual game play with those I actually experienced it with. It wasn't from the dozen of more voices in the background yapping about random crap. I have no need for the "loud leader" type, "I think I'm a comedian" type, "I talk about pie and bunnies 24/7" type and the "I know everything about my class and why your class sucks" type. I ONLY want to talk to the "I enjoy some company with others while I play" types ... and these are the people who realize voice is a tool to ENHANCE game play ... NOT take it over.
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Well yeah basically there arent many guilds in dark fall or mortal online. I am not 100 percent sure on dark fall, but mortal online has like 10, and most of them are elitest that wanted me to go around killing newbies, and making fun of them.
I dont see a problem with that.
It depends on the type of game. If its a PvP game and you are joining a PvP guild you represent the guild as a result if they need to talk to you quickly typing it is unacceptable.
However, if you are a PvE guild with no structured plans and players can do whatever they like then sure no problem. just dont expect to ever see your text responded to
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Why does taking 3 seconds, to type... Hey I am under attack, un acceptable ?
Agreed on every point, however we don't require you to have a headset with a mic to join the guild but if you don't have you will not be able to play with us on every ocuasion, let just say that 99% gets a headset or leave the guild when they get boared of not being able to join us on bigger stuff.
So don't join a guild like that ? It's not a big no no...it's just like minded people wanting something many others don't. The OP joined a guild that required this even though he has a laundry list of reasons why he doesn't want to follow that rule. Obviously the mistake was ever joining in the first place not anything the guild is doing.
If a game required you to do it that's a whole other story. Guilds however should focus on finding members that like the same things...that's the whole point of forming one.
OP I agree with you but on the same token it is their guild so it is their rule. If you knew this before joining then it is your fault for not following the rules. Anyway I won't join any guilds like this. I will use a voice program if we are doing a larger/harder part of the game but for normal day to day things, questing, crafting, etc, I see no reason to sit in a voice program listening to others complain, tell racist/sexist jokes and act like 10 year olds who can say/do whatever they want.
I just make my own guilds and recruit other like minded people. I have a voice program available but do not require anyone to use it. Seems to work out better since when we do get on voice we concentrate on the task at hand and have very little of the BS that happens from just sitting there all day long.
Well in the future when you look at a guild make sure of their policy on voice programs first and if they require you to hang out there all day, well pass them by.
From what I read, you may have seemed antisocial to them.
After all, you seem to have joined their guild because you had to ( because of the game's nature).
Plus, I've never heard of someone getting booted because He was that awesome friendly chap who is a thrill to play with.
Usually, you're getting kicked because you're either a prick or not invested enough.
Don't seem unfair to me.
where are you?
I am...etc
I have some experience with this I can assure you it will cause the other team to hammer you.
maybe its just the games I play. pvp in darkfall while texting = a sure disaster.
I had around 100 spells I had to keep up with on my keyboard with only nano-seconds to spare use of my hands.
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I object to using a third party VOIP application. I would rather type within the confines of the game -- it helps immersion for me. I usually stream radio while I'm at my computer, so using any microphone to input my voice on a VOIP stream would have background 'noise'.
If the game has voice support, and I knew the people I was playing with, then I might consider a 3rd party application.
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I like posting this video.
and it is very much to the point of this string. If you are in a pvp game.
try typing during this..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqxfc-rS-3A
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agreed.
Mic is necessary for group content. Its a lot easier to plan stuff together by talking instead of typing. But when im doing my own thing, or just chilling in town listening to music i dont want to hear 2+ people on the mic (that in some occasion are real life friends with each other) talk about things that arent of my concern.