It is obvious they can't do anything about it and are giving you the run around.
How people can defend these parasites is beyond me.
Frankly, people like the ones harassing your family are human smegma and deserve to be treated as such.
There is a reason why prisons exist. It's to house shit like this.
If I knew somebody doing this in real life who was my friend I'd berate them. I can't imagine how I'd react to somebody who I found griefing me online.
Originally posted by The_Cleaner The inability to retaliate is proof that this game is not a sandbox or a pvp game. Retaliating by doing the same thing to them is childish, and serves the same purpose of wasting your time attacking someone who probably doesn't even have land. Exploiting the game's flawed physics and bad design is not emergent gameplay. Banning offensive players wouldn't even help, who cares it's FTP. Good ideas, bad developer, bad design.
The creator never labelled AA a sandbox. Hybrid was the term used. Anyone calling this game a sandbox is being deceitful.
It amazes me how people willingly play these type of games all the while knowing they are designed as a haven for gankers, griefers and all around sharts.
If there's a rule, they will get around it.
If there's a way to make your life miserable, they will find it.
If there's a game mechanic to exploit, they will do it.
OP, after a few brief searches on Google, I knew what exactly what Archeage was all about and I knew my finger would never touch the “download” button. Games like Archeage (and its kin) are so fun to read about, such as this thread, but I will never play them.
OP, you will never find peace in this game. The only thing I can tell you is that eventually, the low-life players will drive the population down to inconsequential levels. Then, you will have all the land you desire. After they have had their 4-6 months of killing and fun, thus destroying Archeage, they will move on to the next new “gankriffic” game, destroy it, rinse and repeat.
OP, I have a hard time finding sympathy because you had to have known what you were getting into with a game such as Archeage.
XL Games wanted their games populated by gankers, douchebags and lowlifes.
In other words, people acting exactly how they would in real life. It's not like a persons thought processes magically change when they log into a game. There's just no one there to stop them from being exactly what they are.
I'd say XL Games succeeded brilliantly in bringing out the worst in people.
I've read in other forums people have said the communities in the East are much better about not engaging in such behavior (for instance I read that XLGames was stunned by the initial abuse of the report feature and said they never experienced this in their other regions). Can anyone else confirm this? Perhaps then it isn't necessarily their intention, but rather a misunderstanding between the differing cultures in the East and West.
This may very well be. I know the housing is completely different. If you look at pictures/videos from eastern servers, houses are lined up nicely with little extra, wasted space.
Here in the west of course, farms and houses are placed to take up the maximum room possible and fuck everyone else. [mod edit]
OP, you will never find peace in this game. The only thing I can tell you is that eventually, the low-life players will drive the population down to inconsequential levels. Then, you will have all the land you desire. After they have had their 4-6 months of killing and fun, thus destroying Archeage, they will move on to the next new “gankriffic” game, destroy it, rinse and repeat.
Sadly, once that happens (and it did in other regions), they'll merge the servers (like they did in other regions). So there's no "you will have all the land you desire" silver lining cloud, there.
I think the problem is that even though pushing and blocking is something that was put by purpose in the game they did not foresee all the ways it could be used.
They put in methods to deal with problems but not for the ones they didn't foresee which puts them in a tough spot of having to admit they screwed up which would put them in a position of having to deal with the issue.
It is just so much easier to claim this is intended game play rather than spend money trying to fix this.
YOu say that like this is a brand new game.
No I say that like they were probably aware that this could and was happening but didn't care and didn't want to fix the problem so took the "intended gameplay" party line excuse in the KR version and sold the same party line to RU and now are selling us the same line yet again.
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OP, you will never find peace in this game. The only thing I can tell you is that eventually, the low-life players will drive the population down to inconsequential levels. Then, you will have all the land you desire. After they have had their 4-6 months of killing and fun, thus destroying Archeage, they will move on to the next new “gankriffic” game, destroy it, rinse and repeat.
Sadly, once that happens (and it did in other regions), they'll merge the servers (like they did in other regions). So there's no "you will have all the land you desire" silver lining cloud, there.
Last I heard, Korean released with 25 servers which was too many, and they also had archeum set at way too rare to get, which made progression too difficult, and they went down to 4. Also keep in mind that apparently MMOs aren't the "thing" in Korea and are looked down on- MOBAs are way more popular. And of course the population is less than say Europe or the US.
But then they adjusted the Archeum rate and ended up adding servers, apprarently. Last I heard they had 8 there. I believe there's 10 in NA currently.
I don't think the inability to plant on a spot that is blocked by a player or object is going to drive a single person from this game, including the OP.
This game is an owpvp centric game with player driven economy and etc etc bullshit you can think of, which means griefing is the 1st and foremost shit players will have to deal with. not only that this game is entirely designed in a way that a player who scams other gets to be on top easily, it was a huge discussion in korean version and the devs stuck with the design. it is almost like living in the real world, difference is that you will lose in game money..
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Originally posted by holdenhamletAlso keep in mind that apparently MMOs aren't the "thing" in Korea and are looked down on- MOBAs are way more popular. And of course the population is less than say Europe or the US.
I am so amused at customers who request to speak to a representatives manger or supervisor. This is the most retarded request you can ever have. Customer service reps usually trained by their supervisor and I have never seen a situation where this has helped. If the customer service rep is not doing anything about it, you can bet your ass off that their manager will do nothing about it too. This is not realistic sandbox design. If it was, you would be able to fight back, e.g. Kill them and then desecrate their corpse This also happened to me once. There was 6-8 of them just standing on top of my farm so I couldn't plant anything.
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Status: Connected GM Tinen (Listening) GM Tinen: Thanks for contacting Trion Worlds Customer Support. My name is GM Tinen. I'm happy to look into your issue for you today. GM Tinen: Hello! How may I assist you today? GM Tinen: How may I assist you today? PLAYER: I'm sorry..it was a very long wait PLAYER: I and several members of my family...who are also in the same guild have been targeted by a group of players for constant harassment for the last several hours. PLAYER: They have been making every attempt to block our ability to plant on our farms by placing mounts and farm carts..as well as push us away from the auction house by pulling mounts..repeatedly sending duel and trade requests...etc.. PLAYER: since the wait was so long we actually had time to take video of this happening..and it is still happening in game right now. PLAYER: GM Tinen: I can certainly understand how that can be frustrating. I will be more than happy to look into that for you! In order to do so, I’m going to need to collect some information from you.
Is the e-mail on this chat linked to the account in question, or is there another e-mail related to this issue? If there is another e-mail related, may I please have that information? PLAYER: my email is PLAYEREMAIL.COM. I can provide you with server and character information as well. One is currently harassing my wife in game. PLAYER: I want it clear that we did not respond in kind, and we took every game precaution we could from blocking the characters to turning on auto decline on trades and duels, etc. GM Tinen: Great, thanks! Just a moment while I retrieve your account information. PLAYER: As a side note the players said that they were not concerned with Trion's response as they would at most only receive a warning. PLAYER: There is one character who has gone beyond all others in these attempts at harassment. It is the character named Eyedea shown in the videos. GM Tinen: Thanks for your patience while I was looking into this. Unfortunately, looking into this issue, we would not be able to step in, as pushing players and placing a farm cart in areas is not breaking any rules. With regards to the trade and duel requests, you do have the measure to prevent those from being received, as you have already done. PLAYER: The player is using physics of the game to prevent game play. PLAYER: parking their farm cart on someone else's farm to prevent them from planting is against your Eula PLAYER: My family has been putting up with this conduct for almost 6 hours, and I expect appropriate action to be taken. If you cannot do so then I want to speak with a supervisor who can help me. This is violating the spirit of the game and using mechanics in unintended ways. GM Tinen: I apologize, but as I have already stated, these are not issues that we could assist with, as there are not any rules being broken. PLAYER: I'm sorry but according to your EULA there are rules being broken. PLAYER: I would like to speak to a supervisor at this point as you are not recognizing this. GM Tinen: I can escalate your ticket, but unfortunately, they would not be able to speak with you directly via chat. They would contact you directly via email. PLAYER: I have endured this for 6 hours and a que for assistance for 4 of those hours. PLAYER: I prefer to speak to representative by phone. GM Tinen: I apologize, but we do not offer phone support. PLAYER: You need to escalate this ticket and I will be sending a link to multiple gaming sites where your responses have been posted. I will be sure all gaming communities understand you refuse to protect paying players against this type of harrassment. GM Tinen: I apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused. With the unique nature of gameplay in ArcheAge, none of these actions have broken any rules. I will be more than happy to escalate your ticket, though. You will receive an email letting you know that I've escalated your ticket once the chat has concluded. GM Tinen: Was there anything else I could assist you with before escalating your ticket? PLAYER: This is completely unacceptable from a game company to allow harassment of this sort using game mechanics in unintended ways. PLAYER: No, you have been completely unhelpful and should be ashamed of your responses. PLAYER: oh..before you leave, would you like a link to Trion's statements that using game physics in unintended was is a bannable offense? GM Tinen: I apologize, but I already did speak with my supervisor in regards to these actions, and they are not anything that we would be able to take any steps again. PLAYER: I think I will just take this to Reddit. Thank you for your time and please escalate this ticket. GM Tinen: Have a good day and thank you for contacting Trion Worlds. PLAYER: Terms of USE Section B (Rules related to "Chat" and interaction with other Users) Section 6
I have said it time and time again, most of my posts on MMORPG are all about the same thing. This is what AA is all about, ganking. It isnt about achievements, it isnt about having a good time, its about a fews people who want to do nothing more than harass everyone else, and Trion made this game for them. I refuse to play this game as I for one cannot stand that type of behavior in a game. It poitns to a limited intellect, lack of morals, and honestly its just not worth it. My free time spent trying to enjoy myself isnt worth the aggravationcaused by people who want to make you mad.
Now the people who want to PvP, and dont participate in ganking, and doing anything they can to harass and anger people I dont really have a problem with. And if those were the only people in this game id give it a try.
One thing to notice about these people who do these types of things and then say that thats the type of game it is, they are all cowards. They dont fight people that would be a challenge to them, they only hunt down the most vulnerable and defenseless people because they couldnt handle a fair fight. You want anti bullying laws? I submit that FFA PVP should be considered bullying and outlawed in this country. It does nothing to promote character building or good morals, it only promotes all the things that are wrong with people in our country.
Originally posted by fivoroth I am so amused at customers who request to speak to a representatives manger or supervisor. This is the most retarded request you can ever have. Customer service reps usually trained by their supervisor and I have never seen a situation where this has helped. If the customer service rep is not doing anything about it, you can bet your ass off that their manager will do nothing about it too.This is not realistic sandbox design. If it was, you would be able to fight back, e.g. Kill them and then desecrate their corpse :DThis also happened to me once. There was 6-8 of them just standing on top of my farm so I couldn't plant anything.
It is not about training, it is about competence. Superiors do have an authority and ways to make exceptions to rules if your case is strong enough.
But they never will. It's hilarious because I work in a bank and I know that financial services companies can't ignore your complaints like that. They need to formally acknowledge it and give you a formal response for their final decision. If you still don't agree you can escalate to the regulator free of charge and then the regulator charges is something like 80-100 bucks for admin even if we were right. But other industries can do whatever the fuck they want.
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Originally posted by The_Cleaner The inability to retaliate is proof that this game is not a sandbox or a pvp game. Retaliating by doing the same thing to them is childish, and serves the same purpose of wasting your time attacking someone who probably doesn't even have land. Exploiting the game's flawed physics and bad design is not emergent gameplay. Banning offensive players wouldn't even help, who cares it's FTP. Good ideas, bad developer, bad design.
The creator never labelled AA a sandbox. Hybrid was the term used. Anyone calling this game a sandbox is being deceitful.
Yet it's still advertised on Trion's website as a sandbox. So you are then agreeing Trion is being deceitful?
Originally posted by ElRenmazuo That GM is like some of the lazy grocery store clerks who knows they can help you but makes excuses to avoid working extra. I doubt he actually talked to his supervisor.
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What I do when I run into stuff like this is I keep calling until I get the good representative.
There's nothing illegal about using in-game mechanics like pushing folks with farm carts and horses.
I think you missed what this is about, it not about legit pushing people but about blocking access to a spot with no way for you in game to "unblock" the spot.
Seriously if people are going to do this they need to make it so you can push the cart out of the way.
They have already said that they are waiting on the fix to have carts have the collision that is missing from them put in.
I know you can get fences around your property. I don't know if that stops them or not in the current collision setup or not. I do know they block players and mounts from crossing over (players have to jump).
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This game's pvp rules really suck when you compare them to Eve Online.
I got pushed out of an airship in a safe zone by someone on my own faction (I have no idea how they managed to boot me so fast from sitting in the CENTER of the ship all the way out to the end of the walkway; unfortunately I was not streaming at the time to have a recording). As I lay on the ground dead, with my pack now loose on the ground, they either jumped (why did they survive with half health and I didn't...) or they glided down and then jumped, and picked up my pack then slowly walked away.
You can do NOTHING about this as it is a safe zone, and they are protected from ANY retaliation! They don't even get any crime points for pushing you off and murdering you! At least in World of Tanks there are times you get kill credit for someone's tank drowning or crashing due to your actions. With Eve Online, you can war dec the sucker's corporation or suicide gank them with CONCORD destroying your ship in the process. If someone steals from your wreck, they are flagged pvp for 15 minutes to yourself and your corp if you are in one.
People also need to be reminded that Trion is NOT the developer of this game! This is a KOREAN IMPORT that they have NO DIRECT CONTROL OF THE CODE! XL Games is the developer. XL holds all the cards. All Trion can do is make suggestions and work with XL to get things done. If XL can't or will not then it is NOT Trion's fault! You also have to wait longer since Trion does not own the game. Trion has to wait for XL to make changes, then they receive the build, check the build (maybe make translations as they are translating the next build right now they have said), test it, then the players get it.
Originally posted by Robokapp can you kill said players?
Oh..I wish. They are doing this in a safe area where they cannot be attacked.
then that's a problem.
in eve, safezone or otherwise you can still bust someone's head open if you really want to.
while I was prepared to make fun of you, sadly your point is legit if there's no way to fight back.
sorry to hear.
Yes, this is a flaw within the game "flagging"-systems themselves, not Trions fault persay. They should however contact XLgames about these mechanics and how to change them to deal with such actions, simplest solution imo would be the ability to lock your farm borders from other players (like imprison / owners mark) in safezones. Auctionhouse blocking, pushing and trolling is daily, just go to a less popular auctioneer.
I'm glad i chose to settle in a pvp-zone, so i can deal with such harassment myself, cept rare occasions of 2hr peace period.
There's nothing illegal about using in-game mechanics like pushing folks with farm carts and horses.
I think you missed what this is about, it not about legit pushing people but about blocking access to a spot with no way for you in game to "unblock" the spot.
Seriously if people are going to do this they need to make it so you can push the cart out of the way.
They have already said that they are waiting on the fix to have carts have the collision that is missing from them put in.
I know you can get fences around your property. I don't know if that stops them or not in the current collision setup or not. I do know they block players and mounts from crossing over (players have to jump).
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This game's pvp rules really suck when you compare them to Eve Online.
I got pushed out of an airship in a safe zone by someone on my own faction (I have no idea how they managed to boot me so fast from sitting in the CENTER of the ship all the way out to the end of the walkway; unfortunately I was not streaming at the time to have a recording). As I lay on the ground dead, with my pack now loose on the ground, they either jumped (why did they survive with half health and I didn't...) or they glided down and then jumped, and picked up my pack then slowly walked away.
You can do NOTHING about this as it is a safe zone, and they are protected from ANY retaliation! They don't even get any crime points for pushing you off and murdering you! At least in World of Tanks there are times you get kill credit for someone's tank drowning or crashing due to your actions. With Eve Online, you can war dec the sucker's corporation or suicide gank them with CONCORD destroying your ship in the process. If someone steals from your wreck, they are flagged pvp for 15 minutes to yourself and your corp if you are in one.
People also need to be reminded that Trion is NOT the developer of this game! This is a KOREAN IMPORT that they have NO DIRECT CONTROL OF THE CODE! XL Games is the developer. XL holds all the cards. All Trion can do is make suggestions and work with XL to get things done. If XL can't or will not then it is NOT Trion's fault! You also have to wait longer since Trion does not own the game. Trion has to wait for XL to make changes, then they receive the build, check the build (maybe make translations as they are translating the next build right now they have said), test it, then the players get it.
Lol, EVE is also how much more mature? EVE hasn't been without it's own problems over the years, either.
The real question here is whether or not you even want to solve this problem.There are still huge issues that happen in EVE that are left in solely because that's "the crowd" that they are catering to. If you fix every issue surrounding the game world you can actually do more harm than good. Things like pushing people off planes shouldn't be possible or should be punished, but anything else is kinda, meh. It's amazing how large the a-hole market is in North America. So they may actually want their money and want them to stay in the game.
I can't believe the GM didn't even contact the offending players. Maybe they did and didn't say anything, but what a Customer Service fail this was. You should continue to pursue this ticket until you get a result that is satisfying. If Trion keeps this position they will end up in the same situation as EVE, and will have to get their lawyers activated when players start upping the ante on harassment.
Fans of this game who don't approve of this mentality should make their voices known to Trion.
(side note, if you play AA and look at the Trial chat.. people WANT to go to jail. They'll insult the jury just to guarantee their guilty verdict. Hopefully not all servers are that bad..anyways)
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Stealing.
The only way people can become pirates is if they do the things you talk about.
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It is obvious they can't do anything about it and are giving you the run around.
How people can defend these parasites is beyond me.
Frankly, people like the ones harassing your family are human smegma and deserve to be treated as such.
There is a reason why prisons exist. It's to house shit like this.
If I knew somebody doing this in real life who was my friend I'd berate them. I can't imagine how I'd react to somebody who I found griefing me online.
The creator never labelled AA a sandbox. Hybrid was the term used. Anyone calling this game a sandbox is being deceitful.
It amazes me how people willingly play these type of games all the while knowing they are designed as a haven for gankers, griefers and all around sharts.
If there's a rule, they will get around it.
If there's a way to make your life miserable, they will find it.
If there's a game mechanic to exploit, they will do it.
OP, after a few brief searches on Google, I knew what exactly what Archeage was all about and I knew my finger would never touch the “download” button. Games like Archeage (and its kin) are so fun to read about, such as this thread, but I will never play them.
OP, you will never find peace in this game. The only thing I can tell you is that eventually, the low-life players will drive the population down to inconsequential levels. Then, you will have all the land you desire. After they have had their 4-6 months of killing and fun, thus destroying Archeage, they will move on to the next new “gankriffic” game, destroy it, rinse and repeat.
OP, I have a hard time finding sympathy because you had to have known what you were getting into with a game such as Archeage.
This may very well be. I know the housing is completely different. If you look at pictures/videos from eastern servers, houses are lined up nicely with little extra, wasted space.
Here in the west of course, farms and houses are placed to take up the maximum room possible and fuck everyone else. [mod edit]
Sadly, once that happens (and it did in other regions), they'll merge the servers (like they did in other regions). So there's no "you will have all the land you desire" silver lining cloud, there.
No I say that like they were probably aware that this could and was happening but didn't care and didn't want to fix the problem so took the "intended gameplay" party line excuse in the KR version and sold the same party line to RU and now are selling us the same line yet again.
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Last I heard, Korean released with 25 servers which was too many, and they also had archeum set at way too rare to get, which made progression too difficult, and they went down to 4. Also keep in mind that apparently MMOs aren't the "thing" in Korea and are looked down on- MOBAs are way more popular. And of course the population is less than say Europe or the US.
But then they adjusted the Archeum rate and ended up adding servers, apprarently. Last I heard they had 8 there. I believe there's 10 in NA currently.
I don't think the inability to plant on a spot that is blocked by a player or object is going to drive a single person from this game, including the OP.
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Blatant nonsense and ignorance.
This is not realistic sandbox design. If it was, you would be able to fight back, e.g. Kill them and then desecrate their corpse
This also happened to me once. There was 6-8 of them just standing on top of my farm so I couldn't plant anything.
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I have said it time and time again, most of my posts on MMORPG are all about the same thing. This is what AA is all about, ganking. It isnt about achievements, it isnt about having a good time, its about a fews people who want to do nothing more than harass everyone else, and Trion made this game for them. I refuse to play this game as I for one cannot stand that type of behavior in a game. It poitns to a limited intellect, lack of morals, and honestly its just not worth it. My free time spent trying to enjoy myself isnt worth the aggravationcaused by people who want to make you mad.
Now the people who want to PvP, and dont participate in ganking, and doing anything they can to harass and anger people I dont really have a problem with. And if those were the only people in this game id give it a try.
One thing to notice about these people who do these types of things and then say that thats the type of game it is, they are all cowards. They dont fight people that would be a challenge to them, they only hunt down the most vulnerable and defenseless people because they couldnt handle a fair fight. You want anti bullying laws? I submit that FFA PVP should be considered bullying and outlawed in this country. It does nothing to promote character building or good morals, it only promotes all the things that are wrong with people in our country.
It is not about training, it is about competence. Superiors do have an authority and ways to make exceptions to rules if your case is strong enough.
But other industries can do whatever the fuck they want.
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Yet it's still advertised on Trion's website as a sandbox. So you are then agreeing Trion is being deceitful?
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What I do when I run into stuff like this is I keep calling until I get the good representative.
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Open PvP Games always lure the bad guys
So kill him or log off for an hour and everything would be fine
pvp is most certainly not about abusing safe zones to get at people. Thats the opposite of what pvp is about imo.
They have already said that they are waiting on the fix to have carts have the collision that is missing from them put in.
I know you can get fences around your property. I don't know if that stops them or not in the current collision setup or not. I do know they block players and mounts from crossing over (players have to jump).
...
This game's pvp rules really suck when you compare them to Eve Online.
I got pushed out of an airship in a safe zone by someone on my own faction (I have no idea how they managed to boot me so fast from sitting in the CENTER of the ship all the way out to the end of the walkway; unfortunately I was not streaming at the time to have a recording). As I lay on the ground dead, with my pack now loose on the ground, they either jumped (why did they survive with half health and I didn't...) or they glided down and then jumped, and picked up my pack then slowly walked away.
You can do NOTHING about this as it is a safe zone, and they are protected from ANY retaliation! They don't even get any crime points for pushing you off and murdering you! At least in World of Tanks there are times you get kill credit for someone's tank drowning or crashing due to your actions. With Eve Online, you can war dec the sucker's corporation or suicide gank them with CONCORD destroying your ship in the process. If someone steals from your wreck, they are flagged pvp for 15 minutes to yourself and your corp if you are in one.
People also need to be reminded that Trion is NOT the developer of this game! This is a KOREAN IMPORT that they have NO DIRECT CONTROL OF THE CODE! XL Games is the developer. XL holds all the cards. All Trion can do is make suggestions and work with XL to get things done. If XL can't or will not then it is NOT Trion's fault! You also have to wait longer since Trion does not own the game. Trion has to wait for XL to make changes, then they receive the build, check the build (maybe make translations as they are translating the next build right now they have said), test it, then the players get it.
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Yes, this is a flaw within the game "flagging"-systems themselves, not Trions fault persay. They should however contact XLgames about these mechanics and how to change them to deal with such actions, simplest solution imo would be the ability to lock your farm borders from other players (like imprison / owners mark) in safezones. Auctionhouse blocking, pushing and trolling is daily, just go to a less popular auctioneer.
I'm glad i chose to settle in a pvp-zone, so i can deal with such harassment myself, cept rare occasions of 2hr peace period.
Its funny read around ppl saying this is only hapened in OWPvP games when what hapened to OP was in a PvE envoriment.
They are just using game collision to harse others, dont see nothing to do with pvp here.
Pick a exclusive pve game with collisions and this can hapened too.
Morons are everywhere, at least in pvp we can kill them, or at least try.
Its time to end with the illusion where owpvp games only have sociopats and pve games are only nice ppl. Its start to be ridiculous.
Lol, EVE is also how much more mature? EVE hasn't been without it's own problems over the years, either.
The real question here is whether or not you even want to solve this problem.There are still huge issues that happen in EVE that are left in solely because that's "the crowd" that they are catering to. If you fix every issue surrounding the game world you can actually do more harm than good. Things like pushing people off planes shouldn't be possible or should be punished, but anything else is kinda, meh. It's amazing how large the a-hole market is in North America. So they may actually want their money and want them to stay in the game.
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You mean having a strong, niche player-base?
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The only way people can become pirates is if they do the things you talk about.
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