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Windows 10 is a FREE upgrade

CalmOceansCalmOceans Member UncommonPosts: 2,437

If you have windows 7, 8 or 8.1, you get a free upgrade to Windows 10.

 

I have windows 10 on my pc atm, the preview, it's much better than 8, and it has a propr start screen .

 

What do you think of all of this.

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  • KiyorisKiyoris Member RarePosts: 2,130
    Awesome, will save me $200, linux desktop is dead.
  • JohnP0100JohnP0100 Member UncommonPosts: 401

    I'll probably look at Win10 once a more solid preview is available but this looks good. Can't argue with 'free'; although it technically is only free for WIn7/Win8 users.

    Being 'better than Win8' is not a high bar though. Win8 is just so bad!

    It shows what PvP games are really all about, and no, it's not about more realism and immersion. It's about cowards hiding behind a screen to they can bully other defenseless players without any risk of direct retaliation like there would be if they acted like asshats in "real life". -Jean-Luc_Picard

    Life itself is a game. So why shouldn't your game be ruined? - justmemyselfandi

  • tawesstawess Member EpicPosts: 4,227

    i will have to wait for a more reliable report on how it works on so called low spec machines like mine (i3 / 8 G ram 550T.. yes i know.. time to upgrade... But bills do not pay themself it seems)

     

    Because while free is free i have no desire to install a OS that slow my machine down even more.. And windows do not have the best track record when it comes to smooth running on weaker machines.

     

    It would be a good time to do some proper house cleaning on the main harddrive. (as well as getting another drive. )

    This have been a good conversation

  • Methos12Methos12 Member UncommonPosts: 1,244
    Depends entirely on how much of my software it's going to break because they couldn't be arsed to work on proper backwards compatibility.
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  • gunmanvladgunmanvlad Member UncommonPosts: 281

    Isn't it free for just a year?

     

    Also, it will be another year until we have proper drivers and most bugs will be squished.

  • JohnP0100JohnP0100 Member UncommonPosts: 401
    Originally posted by tawess

    i will have to wait for a more reliable report on how it works on so called low spec machines like mine (i3 / 8 G ram 550T.. yes i know.. time to upgrade... But bills do not pay themself it seems)

     

    Because while free is free i have no desire to install a OS that slow my machine down even more.. And windows do not have the best track record when it comes to smooth running on weaker machines.

     

    It would be a good time to do some proper house cleaning on the main harddrive. (as well as getting another drive. )

    Actually, MS did very well on the performance side from Win7 onwards.

    Win7 is quicker than Win-Vista.

    Win8 is quicker than Win7.

    Win8.1 is again quicker than Win8 (only slightly).

    This is vanilla installations by the way. Bloatware / trials / Norton will hinder performances obviously.

    The public statement from MS is that Win10 will once again beat WIn8.1 and with their 'unified' approach, they have to as Win10 is going to be on Mobile devices with 1 gig of Ram and 16gig HDD.

     

    It shows what PvP games are really all about, and no, it's not about more realism and immersion. It's about cowards hiding behind a screen to they can bully other defenseless players without any risk of direct retaliation like there would be if they acted like asshats in "real life". -Jean-Luc_Picard

    Life itself is a game. So why shouldn't your game be ruined? - justmemyselfandi

  • VrikaVrika Member LegendaryPosts: 7,990

    I want to know how much I pay for it being free. Does free mean that MS will be trying to force me to use some other of their products, or purchase apps only from their store, or are there some limitations with the free version I'd need to pay to lift.

    If it's really free without any limitations, then it was worth paying a little extra for Win 7 full retail license that can be transferred from one computer to another.

     
  • JohnP0100JohnP0100 Member UncommonPosts: 401
    Originally posted by gunmanvlad

    Isn't it free for just a year?

     

    Also, it will be another year until we have proper drivers and most bugs will be squished.

    The 'free upgrade' offer is available for a year.

    Once it is launched, every Win7/Win8 users has 365 days to upgrade to Win10 for free.

    It shows what PvP games are really all about, and no, it's not about more realism and immersion. It's about cowards hiding behind a screen to they can bully other defenseless players without any risk of direct retaliation like there would be if they acted like asshats in "real life". -Jean-Luc_Picard

    Life itself is a game. So why shouldn't your game be ruined? - justmemyselfandi

  • CalmOceansCalmOceans Member UncommonPosts: 2,437
    Originally posted by gunmanvlad

    Isn't it free for just a year?

     

    Also, it will be another year until we have proper drivers and most bugs will be squished.

    It's free for a year after launch, within that year you're going to get a free key afaik, so you can upgrade at any time.

     

    As far as drivers, I have Windows 10 on a VM atm, it runs flawlessly and all games and programs I tried run without a problem.

    Even mouse software like my gaming software from Roccat, it works flawlessly.

    And my Windows 10 preview version was one of the first build.

     

    I'm extremely critical of Windows 8, but Windows 10 so far has been extremely good.

    The only problem I found in Windows 10, was some color scheme that wouldn't change properly, you lowered the color saturation of the UI, and it wouldn't change, but that's a tiny cosmetic issue that I heard got fixed already.

    I haven't upgraded my Windows 10 build, since frankly I just wanted to try Windows 10, I'm not interested in keeping a beta up to date until the official launch happens.

  • JohnP0100JohnP0100 Member UncommonPosts: 401
    Originally posted by Vrika

    I want to know how much I pay for it being free. Does free mean that MS will be trying to force me to use some other of their products, or purchase apps only from their store, or are there some limitations with the free version I'd need to pay to lift.

    If it's really free without any limitations, then it was worth paying a little extra for Win 7 full retail license that can be transferred from one computer to another.

    There is a small side note on the 'free' offer.

    https://www.thurrott.com/windows/windows-10/553/windows-10-will-free-upgrade

    You agree that MS will keep your system 'up to date'. This might mean that once you get the free Win10, you have to keep Windows Update On. Or maybe it means something else.

    I personally don't have a problem with getting windows updates automatically but someone else might.

    It shows what PvP games are really all about, and no, it's not about more realism and immersion. It's about cowards hiding behind a screen to they can bully other defenseless players without any risk of direct retaliation like there would be if they acted like asshats in "real life". -Jean-Luc_Picard

    Life itself is a game. So why shouldn't your game be ruined? - justmemyselfandi

  • CalmOceansCalmOceans Member UncommonPosts: 2,437

    On some sites I hear ppl ask

    "So how does MS make money then"

    MS is still going to make money from regular ppl  Gamers tend to upgrade their windows versions, but this is far less common than ppl think. Most ppl don't upgrade their windows until they buy a new PC. Just look at the number of ppl still on XP.

    Only the upgrade is free, you still have to pay for windows when you buy a new PC.

    MS will also increase their revenue from their App store by letting ppl upgrade for free. Since Windows 7 doesn't have an app store, upgrading ppl for free to 10, unlocks the app store for them.

    I frankly don't buy things from the app store atm, there's nothing that I like on there, but many ppl do.

     

    This news is basically good news for techies and gamers who tend to be the people upgrading their Windows versions.

  • NitthNitth Member UncommonPosts: 3,904

    There is speculation/rumors that it will move to a subscription service to align with their new "Windows as a service" ideology.

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  • CalmOceansCalmOceans Member UncommonPosts: 2,437
    Originally posted by Nitth

    There is speculation/rumors that it will move to a subscription service to align with their new "Windows as a service" ideology.

    I don't think that will happen. Frankly this seems more a response to Apple, where ppl get free upgrades to their OS.

    And upgrading ppl from 7 to 10 unlocks the app store, which should increase revenue for MS when ppl buy apps.

  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 12,342


    Originally posted by JohnP0100There is a small side note on the 'free' offer.https://www.thurrott.com/windows/windows-10/553/windows-10-will-free-upgradeYou agree that MS will keep your system 'up to date'. This might mean that once you get the free Win10, you have to keep Windows Update On. Or maybe it means something else.I personally don't have a problem with getting windows updates automatically but someone else might.

    This is the full quote:



    “Once a Windows device is upgraded to Windows 10, we will continue to keep it current for the supported lifetime of the device – at no additional charge.”

    Imo, it relates to licencing - if you go with Windows 10, upgrade to any successive Windows versions on that particular device will be free of charge.

  • JohnP0100JohnP0100 Member UncommonPosts: 401
    Originally posted by Gdemami

     


    Originally posted by JohnP0100

    There is a small side note on the 'free' offer.

     

    https://www.thurrott.com/windows/windows-10/553/windows-10-will-free-upgrade

    You agree that MS will keep your system 'up to date'. This might mean that once you get the free Win10, you have to keep Windows Update On. Or maybe it means something else.

    I personally don't have a problem with getting windows updates automatically but someone else might.


     

    This is the full quote:

     



    But consider this line: “Once a Windows device is upgraded to Windows 10, we will continue to keep it current for the supported lifetime of the device – at no additional charge.”

     

    Imo, it relates to licencing changes - if Windows 11 release in the life cycle of the device, you will be eligible for free further upgrade.

    I'm sure the details will be revealed later but yeah, that also is a possibility.

    It could also mean that WIn10 is really the 'last' windows and MS just releases service packs for it.

    Either way, free is good. Can't complain about that! :)

     

    Edit1

    Hmm.. MS did publicly say that they really want Windows as a subscription based service.

    Not sure how that can fit into this announcement though.

    It shows what PvP games are really all about, and no, it's not about more realism and immersion. It's about cowards hiding behind a screen to they can bully other defenseless players without any risk of direct retaliation like there would be if they acted like asshats in "real life". -Jean-Luc_Picard

    Life itself is a game. So why shouldn't your game be ruined? - justmemyselfandi

  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 12,342


    Originally posted by JohnP0100

    Edit1Hmm.. MS did publicly say that they really want Windows as a subscription based service.Not sure how that can fit into this announcement though.

    ....source?

  • mrrshann618mrrshann618 Member UncommonPosts: 279

    It actually make a kind of sense.

     

    Unify the OS's out there. Everyone simply upgrades to 10, no real need for Legacy support. All new drivers can be designed for a single platform when it comes to any peripheral.

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  • nerovipus32nerovipus32 Member Posts: 2,735
    Originally posted by JohnP0100
    Originally posted by Gdemami

     


    Originally posted by JohnP0100

    There is a small side note on the 'free' offer.

     

    https://www.thurrott.com/windows/windows-10/553/windows-10-will-free-upgrade

    You agree that MS will keep your system 'up to date'. This might mean that once you get the free Win10, you have to keep Windows Update On. Or maybe it means something else.

    I personally don't have a problem with getting windows updates automatically but someone else might.


     

    This is the full quote:

     



    But consider this line: “Once a Windows device is upgraded to Windows 10, we will continue to keep it current for the supported lifetime of the device – at no additional charge.”

     

    Imo, it relates to licencing changes - if Windows 11 release in the life cycle of the device, you will be eligible for free further upgrade.

    I'm sure the details will be revealed later but yeah, that also is a possibility.

    It could also mean that WIn10 is really the 'last' windows and MS just releases service packs for it.

    Either way, free is good. Can't complain about that! :)

     

    Edit1

    Hmm.. MS did publicly say that they really want Windows as a subscription based service.

    Not sure how that can fit into this announcement though.

    If they change to a subscription service it will kill windows and send the average user to apple.

  • DarkFailDarkFail Member Posts: 66

    Only reason I don't use Windows 10 on my production machine is that they are waiting to include some low level features for software engineers until closer to gold.  Other than that, damn solid preview of what I can only assume will be a damn solid release of a damn solid OS.

    ( Also, the only thing "bad" about Windows 8 is the Start Screen, other than that it is also an incredibly solid OS, don't take technology advice from people who's experience in technology is limited to FaceBook and World of Warcraft. )

     

     

  • ReizlaReizla Member RarePosts: 4,092
    By the time Windows 7 won't be updated any more (5 years from now?) I'll be looking for a NON-Microsoft operating system. All those things that they add to Windows really suck and I don't want/need it. Not to mention the tablet and phone compatibility for the PC which will add yet an other layer (READ: performance loss) to the system. I'll pass on Windows 10.
  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,901
    Originally posted by Nitth

    There is speculation/rumors that it will move to a subscription service to align with their new "Windows as a service" ideology.

    Nope, no subscription. 

     

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  • KiyorisKiyoris Member RarePosts: 2,130
    Originally posted by Reizla
    By the time Windows 7 won't be updated any more (5 years from now?) I'll be looking for a NON-Microsoft operating system. All those things that they add to Windows really suck and I don't want/need it. Not to mention the tablet and phone compatibility for the PC which will add yet an other layer (READ: performance loss) to the system. I'll pass on Windows 10.

    ppl always say that

    "I'm going to use Linux"

    lmao, I tried linux ubuntu once

    -graphics driver didn't work

    -speaker didn't work

    -it crashed every 5 minutes

    -it couldn't play half my videos, since the OS had like 0 codecs, I had to find them online

    -it doesn't have any good software, "use gimp"...lmao gimp, it was horrible

     

    Windows is great. Everything works. Linux distro is like using an indie operating system made by ppl who don't have a clue what they're doing.

    If you have no job and want to waste your time, Ubuntu is great, you get so many errors thrown at you that you also get a new hobby, finding a solution every 2 days to a new problem, in forums where no one has a clue what is going on either.

    No thanks. Windows is great.

  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,901
    Originally posted by Reizla
    By the time Windows 7 won't be updated any more (5 years from now?) I'll be looking for a NON-Microsoft operating system. All those things that they add to Windows really suck and I don't want/need it. Not to mention the tablet and phone compatibility for the PC which will add yet an other layer (READ: performance loss) to the system. I'll pass on Windows 10.

    Windows is already king when it comes to games. You wana PC game, Windows is the only real option. Microsoft said the reason Win 10 is free for Win 7-8.1 user is to get software developers on board to write programs for the OS. This move will only solidify MS as the main OS again for years to come. I highly doubt (this coming from a guy certified in Linux and Unix) there will be an easy work around to use another OS to game. With MS move to make office products a sub based program, I would love to see them removed as king but I just dont see this happening any time soon.

  • JJ82JJ82 Member UncommonPosts: 1,258

    Its a trap.

    It was called Threshold inside the company for a reason, that is a doorway, something to get people inside.

    The corporate 10 year plan still states that the future of the OS is subscription based and that the future of the OS will be a cloud based future. MSFT has already stated that Windows 10 will be the LAST Windows and that it will be constantly updated like OSX.

    That means over time they will alter the OS as they see fit. To match their corporate plan.

    I say that once Windows 10 becomes dominant and licenses to previous versions are used up, they will then start subscription service and the slow transition to moving everything to the cloud...when people will have no choice but follow. It has been MSFTs way since the 90s, force change.

    Think about it, giving it away for free means they make NO MONEY on a product they must continually support...there must be a plan to make money off of it and you know it.

    I will be passing on it, I have enough Windows 7 licenses to last more than a decade and with HP releasing Linux+ to work with super servers and most of the IT world on board with it, I see everything MSFT trying to do to make Windows 10 relevant being converted to Linux+.

    That means I wont have to deal with the 100s of millions of code being added to Windows 10 for their useless "features" being exploited....seriously, adding all this code to the CORE OS code?!? How stupid are they? They are gluttons for punishment. All this crap should be modular, outside the core.

    and yes, it is in the core, this crap was pointed out with Windows 8 by security gurus (one Google guru being sued by MSFT for continually releasing the exploit information)and again pointed out a month ago with Windows 10 beta. Enjoy your extra few million virsus, Trojans and malware because the Spartan code is imbedded into the core OS so even if you are using a decent browser like Firefox, the exploits will still be there to be used (another thing discovered with Windows 8 when people not using MSE was still being exploited!).

    Pure madness...no reason for it at all...oh wait, yet there is...mobile! Must force everyone to have the same thing because of mobile devices.

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  • ReizlaReizla Member RarePosts: 4,092
    Originally posted by Nanfoodle
    Originally posted by Reizla
    By the time Windows 7 won't be updated any more (5 years from now?) I'll be looking for a NON-Microsoft operating system. All those things that they add to Windows really suck and I don't want/need it. Not to mention the tablet and phone compatibility for the PC which will add yet an other layer (READ: performance loss) to the system. I'll pass on Windows 10.

    Windows is already king when it comes to games. You wana PC game, Windows is the only real option. Microsoft said the reason Win 10 is free for Win 7-8.1 user is to get software developers on board to write programs for the OS. This move will only solidify MS as the main OS again for years to come. I highly doubt (this coming from a guy certified in Linux and Unix) there will be an easy work around to use another OS to game. With MS move to make office products a sub based program, I would love to see them removed as king but I just dont see this happening any time soon.

    I bet MicroSoft only wants the game developers (I'm an indie one as well  BTW) to hop into Windows 10 because SteamOS is coming. If Steam really pulls it off, Lunix will become the gaming OS instead of Windows.

    With that, I still do not see the added value of the MS store in Windows 8.x. My son's PC runs under it, and everything there is either not worth looking at it OR is already available on Android/iOS or regular Windows (non-store). I don't thing Windows 10 will change a lot there...

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