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  • JamesPJamesP Member UncommonPosts: 595
    Originally posted by greenreen
    Originally posted by JamesP
    Originally posted by Slapshot1188
    Originally posted by JamesP... If you are then please by all means give me whatever medication you took to get that way because I would LOVE to have some!

    Concerning your migraine. I get them too even with the auras that block vision. Excedrin migraine pills cost less than 10 dollars for 100 pills and you are only supposed to take 2 total per day so they last forever. I keep a bottle on my desk at all times. They don't require a prescription at all.

    P.S. Migraines never go away with sleeping, at best puking will help them when you get the light sensitivity and just want to hide in a hoodie but pills take 20 minutes maximum to kick in and puking them up won't help anything.

    Anyone with migraines would know that sleeping doesn't take them away. You don't get real migraines or you would have pills near you.

    wow... ok so now you know more then my doctor knows... lol I've had what are called Stomach Migraines since I was in 2nd grade... I missed more then half of 2nd Grade because of them and the doctors were running all kinds of tests to figure out what was going on. Believe me I've tried the medication. They have tried putting me on medication for them several times and my body doesn't handle the medication... It doesn't work and just causes me to gain weight. Stress and flashing lights tend to set them off... First I'll get an upset stomach then it will work it's way up to my head and then in the most severe cases I'll get extreme light sensitivity. 

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  • JamesPJamesP Member UncommonPosts: 595
    Originally posted by greenreen
    Originally posted by JamesP
    Originally posted by greenreen
    Originally posted by JamesP
    Originally posted by Slapshot1188
    Originally posted by JamesP... If you are then please by all means give me whatever medication you took to get that way because I would LOVE to have some!

    Concerning your migraine. I get them too even with the auras that block vision. Excedrin migraine pills cost less than 10 dollars for 100 pills and you are only supposed to take 2 total per day so they last forever. I keep a bottle on my desk at all times. They don't require a prescription at all.

    P.S. Migraines never go away with sleeping, at best puking will help them when you get the light sensitivity and just want to hide in a hoodie but pills take 20 minutes maximum to kick in and puking them up won't help anything.

    Anyone with migraines would know that sleeping doesn't take them away. You don't get real migraines or you would have pills near you.

    wow... ok so now you know more then my doctor knows... lol I've had what are called Stomach Migraines since I was in 2nd grade... I missed more then half of 2nd Grade because of them and the doctors were running all kinds of tests to figure out what was going on. Believe me I've tried the medication. They have tried putting me on medication for them several times and my body doesn't handle the medication... It doesn't work and just causes me to gain weight. Stress and flashing lights tend to set them off... First I'll get an upset stomach then it will work it's way up to my head and then in the most severe cases I'll get extreme light sensitivity. 

    So do we all. Puke then take a pill. How could they not have told you this. Also some people are triggered by nitrates. Eat a lot of processed food or bacon and expect them to increase if that's your issue.

    I still call bull - no one with a migraine would claim to sleep it away. That doesn't work.

    REALLY?

    • Sleep typically brings relief from abdominal migraine. Medications used to treat classic migraine can also be effective, although there is no single treatment that is known to be effective in all patients.

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  • JamesPJamesP Member UncommonPosts: 595
    And really when they get to the point of extreme sensitivity so light the best thing I've found is to just close my eyes and not let light in... Sleeping also get's my mind off of whatever it is that's stressing me out and allows my body to calm down. Which stress being one of my triggers certainly seems like it would be a good thing to stop focusing on whatever it is that's stressing me out.

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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,660
    Originally posted by JamesP
    And really when they get to the point of extreme sensitivity so light the best thing I've found is to just close my eyes and not let light in... Sleeping also get's my mind off of whatever it is that's stressing me out and allows my body to calm down. Which stress being one of my triggers certainly seems like it would be a good thing to stop focusing on whatever it is that's stressing me out.

    Like I said.. if one of the guys that works for me had fallen asleep (taking a nap) and left paying customers waiting for a meeting and didn't even notify them of the fact it was delayed until the next day.  They would be fired. You begged for the public toi take a look at the new you, and on the "big day" you took a nap and missed it.  Your partner hasn't been able to figure out how to mail T-Shirts for 2 weeks because " the labels were backwards."

    Your continued posting on here does nothing but show that there is no chance you have the skill set to complete a successful MMO, let alone own/run a company.

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  • JamesPJamesP Member UncommonPosts: 595
    Originally posted by greenreen
    Originally posted by JamesP
    Originally posted by greenreen
    Originally posted by JamesP
    Originally posted by greenreen
    Originally posted by JamesP
    Originally posted by Slapshot1188
    Originally posted by JamesP... If you are then please by all means give me whatever medication you took to get that way because I would LOVE to have some!

    Concerning your migraine. I get them too even with the auras that block vision. Excedrin migraine pills cost less than 10 dollars for 100 pills and you are only supposed to take 2 total per day so they last forever. I keep a bottle on my desk at all times. They don't require a prescription at all.

    P.S. Migraines never go away with sleeping, at best puking will help them when you get the light sensitivity and just want to hide in a hoodie but pills take 20 minutes maximum to kick in and puking them up won't help anything.

    Anyone with migraines would know that sleeping doesn't take them away. You don't get real migraines or you would have pills near you.

    wow... ok so now you know more then my doctor knows... lol I've had what are called Stomach Migraines since I was in 2nd grade... I missed more then half of 2nd Grade because of them and the doctors were running all kinds of tests to figure out what was going on. Believe me I've tried the medication. They have tried putting me on medication for them several times and my body doesn't handle the medication... It doesn't work and just causes me to gain weight. Stress and flashing lights tend to set them off... First I'll get an upset stomach then it will work it's way up to my head and then in the most severe cases I'll get extreme light sensitivity. 

    So do we all. Puke then take a pill. How could they not have told you this. Also some people are triggered by nitrates. Eat a lot of processed food or bacon and expect them to increase if that's your issue.

    I still call bull - no one with a migraine would claim to sleep it away. That doesn't work.

    REALLY?

    • Sleep typically brings relief from abdominal migraine. Medications used to treat classic migraine can also be effective, although there is no single treatment that is known to be effective in all patients.
    Difference is I get rid of my migraine in 20 minutes and you don't.
    Whose method is working?
    If sleeping didn't help you, why do you keep doing it.
     
    I'm sidetracking the convo so that's enough of that. You've been given your solution by someone in the same situation with the same symptoms who moves along with their day after they deal with a problem.
     
    You can't avoid stress - it's part of life. Leaving when stress comes is just going to keep you unproductive.

    Sleeping does help my migraines... And like I said Stress is a one of my main triggers... I had a HUGE amount stressing me out yesterday which I won't go into. Also like I said before I've attempted to take medication for my Migraines in the past and my body doesn't handle the medication... My doctors have said the best thing for me to do is deal with my triggers and minimize them the best I can.

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  • AzothAzoth Member UncommonPosts: 840
    Originally posted by JamesP
    Originally posted by greenreen
    Originally posted by JamesP
    Originally posted by greenreen
    Originally posted by JamesP
    Originally posted by greenreen
    Originally posted by JamesP
    Originally posted by Slapshot1188
    Originally posted by JamesP... If you are then please by all means give me whatever medication you took to get that way because I would LOVE to have some!

    Concerning your migraine. I get them too even with the auras that block vision. Excedrin migraine pills cost less than 10 dollars for 100 pills and you are only supposed to take 2 total per day so they last forever. I keep a bottle on my desk at all times. They don't require a prescription at all.

    P.S. Migraines never go away with sleeping, at best puking will help them when you get the light sensitivity and just want to hide in a hoodie but pills take 20 minutes maximum to kick in and puking them up won't help anything.

    Anyone with migraines would know that sleeping doesn't take them away. You don't get real migraines or you would have pills near you.

    wow... ok so now you know more then my doctor knows... lol I've had what are called Stomach Migraines since I was in 2nd grade... I missed more then half of 2nd Grade because of them and the doctors were running all kinds of tests to figure out what was going on. Believe me I've tried the medication. They have tried putting me on medication for them several times and my body doesn't handle the medication... It doesn't work and just causes me to gain weight. Stress and flashing lights tend to set them off... First I'll get an upset stomach then it will work it's way up to my head and then in the most severe cases I'll get extreme light sensitivity. 

    So do we all. Puke then take a pill. How could they not have told you this. Also some people are triggered by nitrates. Eat a lot of processed food or bacon and expect them to increase if that's your issue.

    I still call bull - no one with a migraine would claim to sleep it away. That doesn't work.

    REALLY?

    • Sleep typically brings relief from abdominal migraine. Medications used to treat classic migraine can also be effective, although there is no single treatment that is known to be effective in all patients.
    Difference is I get rid of my migraine in 20 minutes and you don't.
    Whose method is working?
    If sleeping didn't help you, why do you keep doing it.
     
    I'm sidetracking the convo so that's enough of that. You've been given your solution by someone in the same situation with the same symptoms who moves along with their day after they deal with a problem.
     
    You can't avoid stress - it's part of life. Leaving when stress comes is just going to keep you unproductive.

    Sleeping does help my migraines... And like I said Stress is a one of my main triggers... I had a HUGE amount stressing me out yesterday which I won't go into. Also like I said before I've attempted to take medication for my Migraines in the past and my body doesn't handle the medication... My doctors have said the best thing for me to do is deal with my triggers and minimize them the best I can.

    Stress is a trigger for almost all autoimmune disease, but the worst trigger is what you eat. I got rid of my arthritis and migraine by changing my diet, if you didn`t yet, try the autoimmune protocol, it saved my life.

  • DullahanDullahan Member EpicPosts: 4,536
    James, I respect that you want to defend yourself, but you don't need to provide this level of details to these people.  Simply tell then what happened, apologize and move on.  You may want to look into a PR man because engaging in these sorts of conversations only result in further doubt and scrutiny.  Too much info can actually look unprofessional.


  • VesaviusVesavius Member RarePosts: 7,908
    Originally posted by JamesP
    Originally posted by greenreen
    Originally posted by JamesP
    Originally posted by greenreen
    Originally posted by JamesP
    Originally posted by Slapshot1188
    Originally posted by JamesP... If you are then please by all means give me whatever medication you took to get that way because I would LOVE to have some!

    Concerning your migraine. I get them too even with the auras that block vision. Excedrin migraine pills cost less than 10 dollars for 100 pills and you are only supposed to take 2 total per day so they last forever. I keep a bottle on my desk at all times. They don't require a prescription at all.

    P.S. Migraines never go away with sleeping, at best puking will help them when you get the light sensitivity and just want to hide in a hoodie but pills take 20 minutes maximum to kick in and puking them up won't help anything.

    Anyone with migraines would know that sleeping doesn't take them away. You don't get real migraines or you would have pills near you.

    wow... ok so now you know more then my doctor knows... lol I've had what are called Stomach Migraines since I was in 2nd grade... I missed more then half of 2nd Grade because of them and the doctors were running all kinds of tests to figure out what was going on. Believe me I've tried the medication. They have tried putting me on medication for them several times and my body doesn't handle the medication... It doesn't work and just causes me to gain weight. Stress and flashing lights tend to set them off... First I'll get an upset stomach then it will work it's way up to my head and then in the most severe cases I'll get extreme light sensitivity. 

    So do we all. Puke then take a pill. How could they not have told you this. Also some people are triggered by nitrates. Eat a lot of processed food or bacon and expect them to increase if that's your issue.

    I still call bull - no one with a migraine would claim to sleep it away. That doesn't work.

    REALLY?

    • Sleep typically brings relief from abdominal migraine. Medications used to treat classic migraine can also be effective, although there is no single treatment that is known to be effective in all patients.

     

    Is this kind of discussion really appropriate for a gaming board? Personal medical conditions and histories? 

    Lines have been overstepped here IMO.  Mods?

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  • JamesPJamesP Member UncommonPosts: 595
    Originally posted by greenreen
    Originally posted by Vesavius
    Originally posted by JamesP
    Originally posted by greenreen
    Originally posted by JamesP
    Originally posted by greenreen
    Originally posted by JamesP
    Originally posted by Slapshot1188
    Originally posted by JamesP... If you are then please by all means give me whatever medication you took to get that way because I would LOVE to have some!

    Concerning your migraine. I get them too even with the auras that block vision. Excedrin migraine pills cost less than 10 dollars for 100 pills and you are only supposed to take 2 total per day so they last forever. I keep a bottle on my desk at all times. They don't require a prescription at all.

    P.S. Migraines never go away with sleeping, at best puking will help them when you get the light sensitivity and just want to hide in a hoodie but pills take 20 minutes maximum to kick in and puking them up won't help anything.

    Anyone with migraines would know that sleeping doesn't take them away. You don't get real migraines or you would have pills near you.

    wow... ok so now you know more then my doctor knows... lol I've had what are called Stomach Migraines since I was in 2nd grade... I missed more then half of 2nd Grade because of them and the doctors were running all kinds of tests to figure out what was going on. Believe me I've tried the medication. They have tried putting me on medication for them several times and my body doesn't handle the medication... It doesn't work and just causes me to gain weight. Stress and flashing lights tend to set them off... First I'll get an upset stomach then it will work it's way up to my head and then in the most severe cases I'll get extreme light sensitivity. 

    So do we all. Puke then take a pill. How could they not have told you this. Also some people are triggered by nitrates. Eat a lot of processed food or bacon and expect them to increase if that's your issue.

    I still call bull - no one with a migraine would claim to sleep it away. That doesn't work.

    REALLY?

    • Sleep typically brings relief from abdominal migraine. Medications used to treat classic migraine can also be effective, although there is no single treatment that is known to be effective in all patients.

     

    Is this kind of discussion really appropriate for a gaming board? Personal medical conditions and histories? 

    Lines have been overstepped here IMO.  Mods?

    They did this last time. Got the thread locked because he talks about his personal problems.

    When the kitchen gets hot this site shuts down conversation because they think someone sickly might get hurt.

    What about these people who want their t-shirts - quit invalidating their legitimate discussion because he sidetracked the conversation into "Woe is me". This pity part stuff shuts down each thread about this company's foibles and public fibs. Sad. But you'll get your way I imagine since everyone must be touched softly these days.

    Yeah so the T-shirts - anyone want to talk about that instead of trying to overlook that topic? There was a poster who has brought it up repeatedly - where is their due?

    Ok you want information about the T-Shirts... Here's how it's going to work... In the next day or 2 Joel will be starting a forum thread on our forum where anyone who actively wants their shirt can post. Those who post will have their shirts sent out first. Then after those are sent out Joel will be mailing out the shirts closest to where he lives and working out from there until all of the rest of the shirts are sent out.

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  • thunderclesthundercles Member UncommonPosts: 510
    Hire a community manager ASAP.
  • OhhPaigeyOhhPaigey Member RarePosts: 1,517

    Omg lmao, this gets better and better, I thought the topic was over with by now. 

    Please, keep being you. :)

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  • AkulasAkulas Member RarePosts: 3,029
    KS is KS no guarantee. Know that before donating.

    This isn't a signature, you just think it is.

  • BurntvetBurntvet Member RarePosts: 3,465

    What we have here, is a whole lot more of "the dog ate my homework."

    Not a surprise considering that has been the overall theme of this game since the beginning.

  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,660
    Originally posted by thundercles
    Hire a community manager ASAP.

    Oh please don't.  This stuff is pure gold.

    • Company declares a new start
    • They are going to "Under Promise and Over Deliver"
    • Got the T-Shirts on 4/18 but none have been mailed yet (2 weeks)

     

    T-Shirts:

    • T-Shirts lost in a garage
    • T-Shirts forgot to be mailed
    • Got the T-Shirts but the labels are backwards
    • We are going to send them out based on who is closest to my partner? (LOL WTF?)
     
    Then you have:
    • Public test is 100% on Track
    • Day of- No word received
    • Day after- The "Co-Owner" says he laid down because he had a headache and took a nap and missed the test
    • "Co-Owner" has 15-20 employees (somehow he's not quite sure exactly how many) but none know how to reach him
    • Nobody has the "Co-Owner's" phone number to wake him because he "Doesn't talk on the phone"
    • Co-Owners partner apparently MIA.. perhaps dedicating all his time to the massive task of placing a singleT-Shirt in a pouch, sealing pouch and placing a label on it... Clicking the USPS pickup button on their web page, and leaving the package at his front door.
     
    So, am I missing something or does ANYONE see a single trait demonstrated that would lead one to believe that the "New Company" is in any way capable of building and shipping a fully functional MMORPG?
     
     
     

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  • JamesPJamesP Member UncommonPosts: 595
    Originally posted by Slapshot1188
    Originally posted by thundercles
    Hire a community manager ASAP.

    Oh please don't.  This stuff is pure gold.

    • Company declares a new start
    • They are going to "Under Promise and Over Deliver"
    • Got the T-Shirts on 4/18 but none have been mailed yet (2 weeks)

     

    T-Shirts:

    • T-Shirts lost in a garage
    • T-Shirts forgot to be mailed
    • Got the T-Shirts but the labels are backwards
    • We are going to send them out based on who is closest to my partner? (LOL WTF?)
     
    Then you have:
    • Public test is 100% on Track
    • Day of- No word received
    • Day after- The "Co-Owner" says he laid down because he had a headache and took a nap and missed the test
    • "Co-Owner" has 15-20 employees (somehow he's not quite sure exactly how many) but none know how to reach him
    • Nobody has the "Co-Owner's" phone number to wake him because he "Doesn't talk on the phone"
    • Co-Owners partner apparently MIA.. perhaps dedicating all his time to the massive task of placing a singleT-Shirt in a pouch, sealing pouch and placing a label on it... Clicking the USPS pickup button on their web page, and leaving the package at his front door.
     
    So, am I missing something or does ANYONE see a single trait demonstrated that would lead one to believe that the "New Company" is in any way capable of building and shipping a fully functional MMORPG?
     
     
     

    Think what you want... I have no idea where your from but in the US you can say and think whatever you want it's perfectly in your rights... Mean while we are working and will get a product shipped. I refuse to continue this back and forth between us got to many other things to accomplish. So thanks for your feed back we will take it all under advisement and hope you have a great day/night/morning!

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  • EponyxDamorEponyxDamor Member RarePosts: 749
    Originally posted by thundercles
    Hire a community manager ASAP.

    The funny thing is, according to JamesP, "they" have one "on staff". He's only made a grand total of 9 posts on the official forums, and even posted a few times in this thread; however, it's never any real help, as JamesP insists on replying to the personal attacks, and refuses to actually acknowledge any of the real questions (screenshots of current build, updated videos, test launch, t-shirts, etc) with any solid evidence besides more excuses and personal reasons why he can't accomplish the goals he sets for his own company/game.

    Greed Monger may have a different "company" running it, but it's still the same, solitary person running the show: James Proctor. Jason Appleton hasn't been part of the picture in over a year, and over the past two months or so, it's all been James Proctor's show. In that regard, don't expect Greed Monger's song-and-dance to change at all -- It's still all smoke and mirrors, blame-passing, and side stepping. Joel has been just as shadowy as Jason was from the start, and I'd be surprised if he actually was part of the company at all anymore.

    Joel comes and goes, and never really fills any role other than being the "other person" who James' points his finger at when he has no one else to point it at. The first mention of Joel goes back to over a year ago when he "took over PR", but was never really seen or heard from apart from making two posts in a single thread and vanishing mysteriously again. The last time he posted was back on April 22nd, when he confirmed receipt of the T-shirts from Appleton, saying he would be sending them out shortly; he hasn't posted since then.

    All the money, hype, and hope for the actual game died years ago, all that's left is the drama.

    Over a year ago, James Proctor was claiming the following:

    "We are now past Feb. 15th and the Combat and Crafting Portions of that Roadmap are in place. The Crafting System is still a work in progress and is far from the final Version we have in mind but it's to a Playable Alpha phase ready for testing. Our Client Programmer is working on our Client Side stuff, getting our UIs integrated into our MMO Framework, and gearing up for Alpha. All in all we are pretty quickly nearing the Launch of our Alpha test."

    "Really so far we haven't found any major show stopping bugs that would require our attention before our Pre-Alpha Release. Testing will continue however as we gear up for our Pre-Alpha Launch. Jason will make the announcement on our forum once we are ready."

    "We have a fairly large team for a Indie Development Team... Our Team is far from teams like WoW's team or other AAA Development Studios with thousands working on the game but for a Indie we have a pretty sizable team. In our Main Development Skype Discussion we have 17 active members. Some of them are our World Builders, 3D Modelers, texture artists, ect. Who's jobs are complete until after we launch Alpha but they are still very much a active part of the team and are on stand by waiting for new tasks. We currently have 2 of us working on Programming. I'm responsible for Server side Coding, Managing the Servers, Working on Networking and Database Design, Development, and management. Our other Programmer handles all of the Client Side stuff. I'll be handling all of our PHP Development for Game Integration into our Website, Parcel Auction System, Cash shop, ect. and I'll be Developing our Facebook App. that integrates GM into Facebook though that will be done Post-Launch."

    However, recent posts from James Proctor paint a completely different picture, saying he's been the only person working on the game from the beginning. The deadline of a public launch of alpha comes to it's due, and again, James Proctor has more excuses. All over something that was, apparently, nearing it's release over a year ago, while being designed by a team of 17+ people.

    James now also claims he doesn't like to talk on a phone, however, in 2014 he had no problem posting YouTube vlogs about the Ferguson protests. Even in January of 2015, James Proctor was promoting his other game, Rise of Heroes, through YouTube, which looks nearly identical to the primitive builds of Greed Monger -- Mostly empty worlds with nothing but a few trees and spares topography.

    The story changes so much, no wonder it's hard to keep up.

     

  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,660
    Originally posted by EponyxDamor
    The story changes so much, no wonder it's hard to keep up.

     

    I agree, but that's what makes this so damn entertaining.  Say what you mean and then do what you say.  It's that damn simple.

     

     

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  • MightykingMightyking Member UncommonPosts: 235

    It's been more than 2 days again... I hate to ask but.... T-shirts?

     

    Has a first batch of them been send out yet?

     

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  • damond5031damond5031 Member UncommonPosts: 445
    What if...now try to follow me here. What if there is only a skeleton of a half assed game and no T shirts at all? Has anyone actually ever seen any evidence of either of the illusive beasts (game,tshirts)?
  • TyggsTyggs Member UncommonPosts: 456

    OMG I just read this entire thread. I couldn't write better comedy if I try. This sounds like an episode of "The Guild".

    CEO: Paraphrased "All my supporters are online waiting for me to showcase what we're working on, but I have some pain and am going to sleep. They'll get over it"

     

    I love this stuff. Then again, with a name like Greed Monger, what can you expect?

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