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  • Tasslehoff35Tasslehoff35 Member UncommonPosts: 962
    edited May 2016
    SEANMCAD said:
    currently the Mobile gaming market is the top earner in the gaming industry. 
    in the Mobile gaming market as far as I know DX12 has zero presence. 

    More over, OpenGL is not a company with profits and DX12 is not something you buy directly from Microsoft. So, with those TWO items (please do not overlook the first one). I ask, how does one measure profits?

    (added: on a casual observation if DX12 is not even in the segment of the gaming industry that is making the most money but OpenGL is, it begs the question, is DX actually more relevant?)
    When you combine DX PC games sales and Xbox sales and add to that, tablets sales which Microsoft owns 10% of the market on (a $9.8 Bn market) I would say those three areas total would equal or exceed Mobile.
    So yeah DX is relevant. 



    Xbox only has 10 million units, Sony has almost 40 million.


    For the SECOND TIME THIS WEEK you are wrong about the number of Xbox one sold.  Are you ignorant?  Dumb? Or purposely trying to lie.  We all know it's embarrassing getting caught in a lie but being caught twice on the same lie just shows your true colors.  


    http://www.techtimes.com/articles/141182/20160316/microsoft-xbox-one-reportedly-tops-20-million-units-sold-worldwide-still-trailing-ps4.htm
    Agreed. Not only has Microsoft sold twice as many Xbox Ones as Sean quoted but the 360 still has millions of devices in homes, which is also a Direct X device.  Add to that Apple dropping OpenGL for their own self created API 'Metal' and those mobile numbers that use OpenGL shrink even more.

    http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/207767-apple-brings-its-metal-api-to-os-x-10-11-kicks-vulkan-to-the-curb

    No one said Open GL was not used a ton but the topic was in profit. Not usage.  Direct X is relevant and will remain relevant. Regardless of Vulkan.

    sorry..

    1,. 20 million I got my stats wrong a whole 20 million..wow...


    No you didn't get your stats wrong you purposely lied in order to push your ignorant bias agenda.  You were caught lying twice in a matter of days on the same subject...not that you had any credibility to begin with but clearly those who didn't know before clearly understand you have a weird, uninformed,ignorant and bias  agenda against anything Microsoft related.  

    As I said before you and a few others act like a bunch of interweb "experts" when In truth you are probably more qualified to be a Walmart greeter then any position at Microsoft, Apple or Best Buy for that matter.  
  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775



    No you didn't get your stats wrong you purposely lied in order to push your ignorant bias agenda.  You were caught lying twice in a matter of days on the same subject...not that you had any credibility to begin with but clearly those who didn't know before clearly understand you have a weird, uninformed,ignorant and bias  agenda against anything Microsoft related.  

    As I said before you and a few others act like a bunch of interweb "experts" when In truth you are probably more qualified to be a Walmart greeter then any position at Microsoft, Apple or Best Buy for that matter.  
    oh nice! I like it when you do that.

    thanks

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  • Tasslehoff35Tasslehoff35 Member UncommonPosts: 962
    SEANMCAD said:



    No you didn't get your stats wrong you purposely lied in order to push your ignorant bias agenda.  You were caught lying twice in a matter of days on the same subject...not that you had any credibility to begin with but clearly those who didn't know before clearly understand you have a weird, uninformed,ignorant and bias  agenda against anything Microsoft related.  

    As I said before you and a few others act like a bunch of interweb "experts" when In truth you are probably more qualified to be a Walmart greeter then any position at Microsoft, Apple or Best Buy for that matter.  
    oh nice! I like it when you do that.

    thanks

    You like when I state facts and truths??? That's nice you should try it out sometime. 
  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    edited May 2016
    SEANMCAD said:



    No you didn't get your stats wrong you purposely lied in order to push your ignorant bias agenda.  You were caught lying twice in a matter of days on the same subject...not that you had any credibility to begin with but clearly those who didn't know before clearly understand you have a weird, uninformed,ignorant and bias  agenda against anything Microsoft related.  

    As I said before you and a few others act like a bunch of interweb "experts" when In truth you are probably more qualified to be a Walmart greeter then any position at Microsoft, Apple or Best Buy for that matter.  
    oh nice! I like it when you do that.

    thanks

    You like when I state facts and truths??? That's nice you should try it out sometime. 
    I love it when people take one mistake that isnt a deal breaker to my point and then accuse me of liying.

    it makes them look Honorable but please...keep on going,. plaster that all over as many places as you can.

    its always easy to take the higher ground (as you clearly are) when you have the truth on your side

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  • Tasslehoff35Tasslehoff35 Member UncommonPosts: 962
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:



    No you didn't get your stats wrong you purposely lied in order to push your ignorant bias agenda.  You were caught lying twice in a matter of days on the same subject...not that you had any credibility to begin with but clearly those who didn't know before clearly understand you have a weird, uninformed,ignorant and bias  agenda against anything Microsoft related.  

    As I said before you and a few others act like a bunch of interweb "experts" when In truth you are probably more qualified to be a Walmart greeter then any position at Microsoft, Apple or Best Buy for that matter.  
    oh nice! I like it when you do that.

    thanks

    You like when I state facts and truths??? That's nice you should try it out sometime. 
    I love it when people take one mistake that isnt a deal breaker to my point and then accuse me of liying.

    it makes them look Honorable but please...keep on going,. plaster that all over as many places as you can.

    its always easy to take the higher ground (as you clearly are) when you have the truth on your side
    You are correct one mistake would be wrong to accuse you of lying. When you make mistake after mistake on multiple different topics well that just shows your lack of knowledge of the subjects you complain about.   But making the same exact "mistake" twice in a matter of days in an attempt to push an agenda is not a simple mistake they were deliberate attempts to pass wrong information also know as lying. 
  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    edited May 2016
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:



    No you didn't get your stats wrong you purposely lied in order to push your ignorant bias agenda.  You were caught lying twice in a matter of days on the same subject...not that you had any credibility to begin with but clearly those who didn't know before clearly understand you have a weird, uninformed,ignorant and bias  agenda against anything Microsoft related.  

    As I said before you and a few others act like a bunch of interweb "experts" when In truth you are probably more qualified to be a Walmart greeter then any position at Microsoft, Apple or Best Buy for that matter.  
    oh nice! I like it when you do that.

    thanks

    You like when I state facts and truths??? That's nice you should try it out sometime. 
    I love it when people take one mistake that isnt a deal breaker to my point and then accuse me of liying.

    it makes them look Honorable but please...keep on going,. plaster that all over as many places as you can.

    its always easy to take the higher ground (as you clearly are) when you have the truth on your side
    You are correct one mistake would be wrong to accuse you of lying. When you make mistake after mistake on multiple different topics well that just shows your lack of knowledge of the subjects you complain about.   But making the same exact "mistake" twice in a matter of days in an attempt to push an agenda is not a simple mistake they were deliberate attempts to pass wrong information also know as lying. 
    lol...yeah mistake after mistake ok yeah right.

    just keep on going. you are so easy to lead right into the banner hammer I dont even have to try

    but regardless of that, with DirectX effectively not being in the mobile market to any large degree and with mobile gaming being the top earner I wonder if DirectX wide spread use is more of a myth. I am not saying it is, i am saying if you think about it something is not exactly mataching

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  • Tasslehoff35Tasslehoff35 Member UncommonPosts: 962
    edited May 2016
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:



    No you didn't get your stats wrong you purposely lied in order to push your ignorant bias agenda.  You were caught lying twice in a matter of days on the same subject...not that you had any credibility to begin with but clearly those who didn't know before clearly understand you have a weird, uninformed,ignorant and bias  agenda against anything Microsoft related.  

    As I said before you and a few others act like a bunch of interweb "experts" when In truth you are probably more qualified to be a Walmart greeter then any position at Microsoft, Apple or Best Buy for that matter.  
    oh nice! I like it when you do that.

    thanks

    You like when I state facts and truths??? That's nice you should try it out sometime. 
    I love it when people take one mistake that isnt a deal breaker to my point and then accuse me of liying.

    it makes them look Honorable but please...keep on going,. plaster that all over as many places as you can.

    its always easy to take the higher ground (as you clearly are) when you have the truth on your side
    You are correct one mistake would be wrong to accuse you of lying. When you make mistake after mistake on multiple different topics well that just shows your lack of knowledge of the subjects you complain about.   But making the same exact "mistake" twice in a matter of days in an attempt to push an agenda is not a simple mistake they were deliberate attempts to pass wrong information also know as lying. 
    lol...yeah mistake after mistake ok yeah right.

    just keep on going. you are so easy to lead right into the banner hammer I dont even have to try
    Wait so I'm going to get banned for catching you in a lie TWICE IN A MATTER OF DAYS?  C'mon man we know they allow you to post 27x7 on here but I can't believe they will protect you from being called out when you lie. 

    Now I'm not a mod or cry to them whenever somebody replies to me but I would say purposely posting lies would be a form of trolling...but you can check what th Vross when you email him about being called out.
  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    edited May 2016
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:



    No you didn't get your stats wrong you purposely lied in order to push your ignorant bias agenda.  You were caught lying twice in a matter of days on the same subject...not that you had any credibility to begin with but clearly those who didn't know before clearly understand you have a weird, uninformed,ignorant and bias  agenda against anything Microsoft related.  

    As I said before you and a few others act like a bunch of interweb "experts" when In truth you are probably more qualified to be a Walmart greeter then any position at Microsoft, Apple or Best Buy for that matter.  
    oh nice! I like it when you do that.

    thanks

    You like when I state facts and truths??? That's nice you should try it out sometime. 
    I love it when people take one mistake that isnt a deal breaker to my point and then accuse me of liying.

    it makes them look Honorable but please...keep on going,. plaster that all over as many places as you can.

    its always easy to take the higher ground (as you clearly are) when you have the truth on your side
    You are correct one mistake would be wrong to accuse you of lying. When you make mistake after mistake on multiple different topics well that just shows your lack of knowledge of the subjects you complain about.   But making the same exact "mistake" twice in a matter of days in an attempt to push an agenda is not a simple mistake they were deliberate attempts to pass wrong information also know as lying. 
    lol...yeah mistake after mistake ok yeah right.

    just keep on going. you are so easy to lead right into the banner hammer I dont even have to try
    Wait so I'm going to get banned for catching you in a lie?  C'mon man we know they allow you to post 27x7 on here but I can't believe they will protect you from being called out when you lie. 
    So with mobile gaming currently being the top earner in the gaming industry and DirectX not really being in that space much at all It makes me wonder how prevalent DirectX really is. Some of my games are openGL however most are likely DirectX (another mistake I made yesterday) however most of my games are Unity (this was the mistake I made yesterday).

    So i wonder (I dont know but I wonder) how factual the assumption is that DirectX is the most used API. Regarding profits however its really really hard to measure

    and I dont put you on ignore because you are super special and funny so I like it

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  • Tasslehoff35Tasslehoff35 Member UncommonPosts: 962
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:



    No you didn't get your stats wrong you purposely lied in order to push your ignorant bias agenda.  You were caught lying twice in a matter of days on the same subject...not that you had any credibility to begin with but clearly those who didn't know before clearly understand you have a weird, uninformed,ignorant and bias  agenda against anything Microsoft related.  

    As I said before you and a few others act like a bunch of interweb "experts" when In truth you are probably more qualified to be a Walmart greeter then any position at Microsoft, Apple or Best Buy for that matter.  
    oh nice! I like it when you do that.

    thanks

    You like when I state facts and truths??? That's nice you should try it out sometime. 
    I love it when people take one mistake that isnt a deal breaker to my point and then accuse me of liying.

    it makes them look Honorable but please...keep on going,. plaster that all over as many places as you can.

    its always easy to take the higher ground (as you clearly are) when you have the truth on your side
    You are correct one mistake would be wrong to accuse you of lying. When you make mistake after mistake on multiple different topics well that just shows your lack of knowledge of the subjects you complain about.   But making the same exact "mistake" twice in a matter of days in an attempt to push an agenda is not a simple mistake they were deliberate attempts to pass wrong information also know as lying. 
    lol...yeah mistake after mistake ok yeah right.

    just keep on going. you are so easy to lead right into the banner hammer I dont even have to try
    Wait so I'm going to get banned for catching you in a lie?  C'mon man we know they allow you to post 27x7 on here but I can't believe they will protect you from being called out when you lie. 
    So with mobile gaming currently being the top earner in the gaming industry and DirectX not really being in that space much at all It makes me wonder how prevalent DirectX really is. Some of my games are openGL however most are likely DirectX (another mistake I made yesterday) however most of my games are Unity (this was the mistake I made yesterday).

    So i wonder (I dont know but I wonder) how factual the assumption is that DirectX is the most used API. Regarding profits however its really really hard to measure

    and I dont put you on ignore because you are super special and funny so I like it
    Who cares about any of that.  You and the other "experts" can keep "wondering" all day and look like...well can't really say what you look like you seem to be a little sensitive this morning.  You are most likely just upset for being called out.
  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775

    So with mobile gaming currently being the top earner in the gaming industry and DirectX not really being in that space much at all It makes me wonder how prevalent DirectX really is. Some of my games are openGL however most are likely DirectX (another mistake I made yesterday) however most of my games are Unity (this was the mistake I made yesterday).

    So i wonder (I dont know but I wonder) how factual the assumption is that DirectX is the most used API. Regarding profits however its really really hard to measure

    and I dont put you on ignore because you are super special and funny so I like it
    Who cares about any of that.  You and the other "experts" can keep "wondering" all day and look like...well can't really say what you look like you seem to be a little sensitive this morning.  You are most likely just upset for being called out.
    So when I saw that mobile gaming is currently the top seller in gaming I started to think about where DirectX is currently in that space and it got me to think about it. I am not drawing any conclusions from it and I am not saying that DirectX is NOT more important or otherwise what I am saying though its that its not that obvious without digging deepers into it which I dont think anyone here actually has done.

    I used to be a SERIOUS Microsoft Fan boy not but about 3 years ago so I completely understand where the bias and fanaticism comes from

    Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.

    Please do not respond to me

  • Tasslehoff35Tasslehoff35 Member UncommonPosts: 962
    edited May 2016
    SEANMCAD said:

    So with mobile gaming currently being the top earner in the gaming industry and DirectX not really being in that space much at all It makes me wonder how prevalent DirectX really is. Some of my games are openGL however most are likely DirectX (another mistake I made yesterday) however most of my games are Unity (this was the mistake I made yesterday).

    So i wonder (I dont know but I wonder) how factual the assumption is that DirectX is the most used API. Regarding profits however its really really hard to measure

    and I dont put you on ignore because you are super special and funny so I like it
    Who cares about any of that.  You and the other "experts" can keep "wondering" all day and look like...well can't really say what you look like you seem to be a little sensitive this morning.  You are most likely just upset for being called out.
    So when I saw that mobile gaming is currently the top seller in gaming I started to think about where DirectX is currently in that space and it got me to think about it. I am not drawing any conclusions from it and I am not saying that DirectX is NOT more important or otherwise what I am saying though its that its not that obvious without digging deepers into it which I dont think anyone here actually has done.

    I used to be a SERIOUS Microsoft Fan boy not but about 3 years ago so I completely understand where the bias and fanaticism comes from
    Are you saying I'm a Microsoft fan boy?  Yeah with my iPhone, kindle fire, oh but yeah I do use Windows 10 and own an xb1 yep I guess that means I'm a fan boy.  Oh and I also correct people who continued to post the wrong info and tell those who have no knowledge of the topic they are talking about...yeah not a fan boy here...see you still have your bias, fanaticism but just took it to the other bandwagon. 
  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    edited May 2016
    SEANMCAD said:

    So with mobile gaming currently being the top earner in the gaming industry and DirectX not really being in that space much at all It makes me wonder how prevalent DirectX really is. Some of my games are openGL however most are likely DirectX (another mistake I made yesterday) however most of my games are Unity (this was the mistake I made yesterday).

    So i wonder (I dont know but I wonder) how factual the assumption is that DirectX is the most used API. Regarding profits however its really really hard to measure

    and I dont put you on ignore because you are super special and funny so I like it
    Who cares about any of that.  You and the other "experts" can keep "wondering" all day and look like...well can't really say what you look like you seem to be a little sensitive this morning.  You are most likely just upset for being called out.
    So when I saw that mobile gaming is currently the top seller in gaming I started to think about where DirectX is currently in that space and it got me to think about it. I am not drawing any conclusions from it and I am not saying that DirectX is NOT more important or otherwise what I am saying though its that its not that obvious without digging deepers into it which I dont think anyone here actually has done.

    I used to be a SERIOUS Microsoft Fan boy not but about 3 years ago so I completely understand where the bias and fanaticism comes from
    Are you saying I'm a Microsoft fan boy?  Yeah with my iPhone, kindle fire, oh but yeah I do use Windows 10 and own an xb1 yep I guess that means I'm a fan boy.  Oh and I also correct people who continued to post the wrong info and tell those who have no knowledge of the topic they are talking about...yeah not a fan boy here...see you still have your bias, fanaticism but just took it to the other bandwagon. 
    So with DirectX not being much in the mobile market at all and with mobile gaming currently being the top seller it makes me wonder how relevant DirectX is by comparision. Arent all PS4 games non-DirectX? When you consider that opengl can work on anything but DirectX is very specific it would be interesting to see what the real numbers are on this.

    Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.

    Please do not respond to me

  • Tasslehoff35Tasslehoff35 Member UncommonPosts: 962
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:

    So with mobile gaming currently being the top earner in the gaming industry and DirectX not really being in that space much at all It makes me wonder how prevalent DirectX really is. Some of my games are openGL however most are likely DirectX (another mistake I made yesterday) however most of my games are Unity (this was the mistake I made yesterday).

    So i wonder (I dont know but I wonder) how factual the assumption is that DirectX is the most used API. Regarding profits however its really really hard to measure

    and I dont put you on ignore because you are super special and funny so I like it
    Who cares about any of that.  You and the other "experts" can keep "wondering" all day and look like...well can't really say what you look like you seem to be a little sensitive this morning.  You are most likely just upset for being called out.
    So when I saw that mobile gaming is currently the top seller in gaming I started to think about where DirectX is currently in that space and it got me to think about it. I am not drawing any conclusions from it and I am not saying that DirectX is NOT more important or otherwise what I am saying though its that its not that obvious without digging deepers into it which I dont think anyone here actually has done.

    I used to be a SERIOUS Microsoft Fan boy not but about 3 years ago so I completely understand where the bias and fanaticism comes from
    Are you saying I'm a Microsoft fan boy?  Yeah with my iPhone, kindle fire, oh but yeah I do use Windows 10 and own an xb1 yep I guess that means I'm a fan boy.  Oh and I also correct people who continued to post the wrong info and tell those who have no knowledge of the topic they are talking about...yeah not a fan boy here...see you still have your bias, fanaticism but just took it to the other bandwagon. 
    So with DirectX not being much in the mobile market at all and with mobile gaming currently being the top seller it makes me wonder how relevant DirectX is by comparision. Arent all PS4 games non-DirectX? When you consider that opengl can work on anything but DirectX is very specific it would be interesting to see what the real numbers are on this.
    Why do you care so much?  We know you think it's all about mobile gaming but sorry I have interet in what developers use to create candy crush or FarmVille.  

    I can guarentee direct x will be relevant as long as you continue to play video games...do you even play them anymore or just post pointless threads? 
  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:

    So with mobile gaming currently being the top earner in the gaming industry and DirectX not really being in that space much at all It makes me wonder how prevalent DirectX really is. Some of my games are openGL however most are likely DirectX (another mistake I made yesterday) however most of my games are Unity (this was the mistake I made yesterday).

    So i wonder (I dont know but I wonder) how factual the assumption is that DirectX is the most used API. Regarding profits however its really really hard to measure

    and I dont put you on ignore because you are super special and funny so I like it
    Who cares about any of that.  You and the other "experts" can keep "wondering" all day and look like...well can't really say what you look like you seem to be a little sensitive this morning.  You are most likely just upset for being called out.
    So when I saw that mobile gaming is currently the top seller in gaming I started to think about where DirectX is currently in that space and it got me to think about it. I am not drawing any conclusions from it and I am not saying that DirectX is NOT more important or otherwise what I am saying though its that its not that obvious without digging deepers into it which I dont think anyone here actually has done.

    I used to be a SERIOUS Microsoft Fan boy not but about 3 years ago so I completely understand where the bias and fanaticism comes from
    Are you saying I'm a Microsoft fan boy?  Yeah with my iPhone, kindle fire, oh but yeah I do use Windows 10 and own an xb1 yep I guess that means I'm a fan boy.  Oh and I also correct people who continued to post the wrong info and tell those who have no knowledge of the topic they are talking about...yeah not a fan boy here...see you still have your bias, fanaticism but just took it to the other bandwagon. 
    So with DirectX not being much in the mobile market at all and with mobile gaming currently being the top seller it makes me wonder how relevant DirectX is by comparision. Arent all PS4 games non-DirectX? When you consider that opengl can work on anything but DirectX is very specific it would be interesting to see what the real numbers are on this.
    Why do you care so much?  We know you think it's all about mobile gaming but sorry I have interet in what developers use to create candy crush or FarmVille.  

    I can guarentee direct x will be relevant as long as you continue to play video games...do you even play them anymore or just post pointless threads? 
    I agree that DirectX will be relevant and important in gaming. I just wonder if they are as relevant or as wide spread as people think. I am sorry that this view makes people so upset.

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  • gervaise1gervaise1 Member EpicPosts: 6,919
    SEANMCAD said:


    If your a developer who wants to reach the most gamers DX12 would not be the choice
    And yet AMD decided to "back off" Mantle development, release what they had done - which was iterated to become Vulkan - and advise developers to go with DX12 (bar the odd feature).

    You have to assume that AMD know their market.
  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    gervaise1 said:
    SEANMCAD said:


    If your a developer who wants to reach the most gamers DX12 would not be the choice
    And yet AMD decided to "back off" Mantle development, release what they had done - which was iterated to become Vulkan - and advise developers to go with DX12 (bar the odd feature).

    You have to assume that AMD know their market.
    I am sorry but I am not understanding how your statement relates to what you quoted.

    Also from my understanding mantle was given to the Khronos Group to help with making Vulkan and I would assume because they could see that in the long run doing so when make for a better API and as such more of an advantage to them. 


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  • Tasslehoff35Tasslehoff35 Member UncommonPosts: 962
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:

    So with mobile gaming currently being the top earner in the gaming industry and DirectX not really being in that space much at all It makes me wonder how prevalent DirectX really is. Some of my games are openGL however most are likely DirectX (another mistake I made yesterday) however most of my games are Unity (this was the mistake I made yesterday).

    So i wonder (I dont know but I wonder) how factual the assumption is that DirectX is the most used API. Regarding profits however its really really hard to measure

    and I dont put you on ignore because you are super special and funny so I like it
    Who cares about any of that.  You and the other "experts" can keep "wondering" all day and look like...well can't really say what you look like you seem to be a little sensitive this morning.  You are most likely just upset for being called out.
    So when I saw that mobile gaming is currently the top seller in gaming I started to think about where DirectX is currently in that space and it got me to think about it. I am not drawing any conclusions from it and I am not saying that DirectX is NOT more important or otherwise what I am saying though its that its not that obvious without digging deepers into it which I dont think anyone here actually has done.

    I used to be a SERIOUS Microsoft Fan boy not but about 3 years ago so I completely understand where the bias and fanaticism comes from
    Are you saying I'm a Microsoft fan boy?  Yeah with my iPhone, kindle fire, oh but yeah I do use Windows 10 and own an xb1 yep I guess that means I'm a fan boy.  Oh and I also correct people who continued to post the wrong info and tell those who have no knowledge of the topic they are talking about...yeah not a fan boy here...see you still have your bias, fanaticism but just took it to the other bandwagon. 
    So with DirectX not being much in the mobile market at all and with mobile gaming currently being the top seller it makes me wonder how relevant DirectX is by comparision. Arent all PS4 games non-DirectX? When you consider that opengl can work on anything but DirectX is very specific it would be interesting to see what the real numbers are on this.
    Why do you care so much?  We know you think it's all about mobile gaming but sorry I have interet in what developers use to create candy crush or FarmVille.  

    I can guarentee direct x will be relevant as long as you continue to play video games...do you even play them anymore or just post pointless threads? 
    I agree that DirectX will be relevant and important in gaming. I just wonder if they are as relevant or as wide spread as people think. I am sorry that this view makes people so upset.
    Who are these people who worry about stuff like this?  I could care less how my games are made and I'm confused why others care so much.  The truth is the only reason I commented in this thread was because I saw you post misinformation again on purpose lol.  Now you continue to ask me about the topic and I have no problem telling this topic has zero impact on me...
  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:

    So with mobile gaming currently being the top earner in the gaming industry and DirectX not really being in that space much at all It makes me wonder how prevalent DirectX really is. Some of my games are openGL however most are likely DirectX (another mistake I made yesterday) however most of my games are Unity (this was the mistake I made yesterday).

    So i wonder (I dont know but I wonder) how factual the assumption is that DirectX is the most used API. Regarding profits however its really really hard to measure

    and I dont put you on ignore because you are super special and funny so I like it
    Who cares about any of that.  You and the other "experts" can keep "wondering" all day and look like...well can't really say what you look like you seem to be a little sensitive this morning.  You are most likely just upset for being called out.
    So when I saw that mobile gaming is currently the top seller in gaming I started to think about where DirectX is currently in that space and it got me to think about it. I am not drawing any conclusions from it and I am not saying that DirectX is NOT more important or otherwise what I am saying though its that its not that obvious without digging deepers into it which I dont think anyone here actually has done.

    I used to be a SERIOUS Microsoft Fan boy not but about 3 years ago so I completely understand where the bias and fanaticism comes from
    Are you saying I'm a Microsoft fan boy?  Yeah with my iPhone, kindle fire, oh but yeah I do use Windows 10 and own an xb1 yep I guess that means I'm a fan boy.  Oh and I also correct people who continued to post the wrong info and tell those who have no knowledge of the topic they are talking about...yeah not a fan boy here...see you still have your bias, fanaticism but just took it to the other bandwagon. 
    So with DirectX not being much in the mobile market at all and with mobile gaming currently being the top seller it makes me wonder how relevant DirectX is by comparision. Arent all PS4 games non-DirectX? When you consider that opengl can work on anything but DirectX is very specific it would be interesting to see what the real numbers are on this.
    Why do you care so much?  We know you think it's all about mobile gaming but sorry I have interet in what developers use to create candy crush or FarmVille.  

    I can guarentee direct x will be relevant as long as you continue to play video games...do you even play them anymore or just post pointless threads? 
    I agree that DirectX will be relevant and important in gaming. I just wonder if they are as relevant or as wide spread as people think. I am sorry that this view makes people so upset.
    Who are these people who worry about stuff like this?  I could care less how my games are made and I'm confused why others care so much.  The truth is the only reason I commented in this thread was because I saw you post misinformation again on purpose lol.  Now you continue to ask me about the topic and I have no problem telling this topic has zero impact on me...
    ok well thanks for your input into this, I would say its insightful but I am not sure why someone would actively be participating in this conversation if they felt that way.

    Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.

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  • Tasslehoff35Tasslehoff35 Member UncommonPosts: 962
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:

    So with mobile gaming currently being the top earner in the gaming industry and DirectX not really being in that space much at all It makes me wonder how prevalent DirectX really is. Some of my games are openGL however most are likely DirectX (another mistake I made yesterday) however most of my games are Unity (this was the mistake I made yesterday).

    So i wonder (I dont know but I wonder) how factual the assumption is that DirectX is the most used API. Regarding profits however its really really hard to measure

    and I dont put you on ignore because you are super special and funny so I like it
    Who cares about any of that.  You and the other "experts" can keep "wondering" all day and look like...well can't really say what you look like you seem to be a little sensitive this morning.  You are most likely just upset for being called out.
    So when I saw that mobile gaming is currently the top seller in gaming I started to think about where DirectX is currently in that space and it got me to think about it. I am not drawing any conclusions from it and I am not saying that DirectX is NOT more important or otherwise what I am saying though its that its not that obvious without digging deepers into it which I dont think anyone here actually has done.

    I used to be a SERIOUS Microsoft Fan boy not but about 3 years ago so I completely understand where the bias and fanaticism comes from
    Are you saying I'm a Microsoft fan boy?  Yeah with my iPhone, kindle fire, oh but yeah I do use Windows 10 and own an xb1 yep I guess that means I'm a fan boy.  Oh and I also correct people who continued to post the wrong info and tell those who have no knowledge of the topic they are talking about...yeah not a fan boy here...see you still have your bias, fanaticism but just took it to the other bandwagon. 
    So with DirectX not being much in the mobile market at all and with mobile gaming currently being the top seller it makes me wonder how relevant DirectX is by comparision. Arent all PS4 games non-DirectX? When you consider that opengl can work on anything but DirectX is very specific it would be interesting to see what the real numbers are on this.
    Why do you care so much?  We know you think it's all about mobile gaming but sorry I have interet in what developers use to create candy crush or FarmVille.  

    I can guarentee direct x will be relevant as long as you continue to play video games...do you even play them anymore or just post pointless threads? 
    I agree that DirectX will be relevant and important in gaming. I just wonder if they are as relevant or as wide spread as people think. I am sorry that this view makes people so upset.
    Who are these people who worry about stuff like this?  I could care less how my games are made and I'm confused why others care so much.  The truth is the only reason I commented in this thread was because I saw you post misinformation again on purpose lol.  Now you continue to ask me about the topic and I have no problem telling this topic has zero impact on me...
    ok well thanks for your input into this, I would say its insightful but I am not sure why someone would actively be participating in this conversation if they felt that way.
    Again you asked me questions...it would be rude if I didn't reply to them.
  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:

    So with mobile gaming currently being the top earner in the gaming industry and DirectX not really being in that space much at all It makes me wonder how prevalent DirectX really is. Some of my games are openGL however most are likely DirectX (another mistake I made yesterday) however most of my games are Unity (this was the mistake I made yesterday).

    So i wonder (I dont know but I wonder) how factual the assumption is that DirectX is the most used API. Regarding profits however its really really hard to measure

    and I dont put you on ignore because you are super special and funny so I like it
    Who cares about any of that.  You and the other "experts" can keep "wondering" all day and look like...well can't really say what you look like you seem to be a little sensitive this morning.  You are most likely just upset for being called out.
    So when I saw that mobile gaming is currently the top seller in gaming I started to think about where DirectX is currently in that space and it got me to think about it. I am not drawing any conclusions from it and I am not saying that DirectX is NOT more important or otherwise what I am saying though its that its not that obvious without digging deepers into it which I dont think anyone here actually has done.

    I used to be a SERIOUS Microsoft Fan boy not but about 3 years ago so I completely understand where the bias and fanaticism comes from
    Are you saying I'm a Microsoft fan boy?  Yeah with my iPhone, kindle fire, oh but yeah I do use Windows 10 and own an xb1 yep I guess that means I'm a fan boy.  Oh and I also correct people who continued to post the wrong info and tell those who have no knowledge of the topic they are talking about...yeah not a fan boy here...see you still have your bias, fanaticism but just took it to the other bandwagon. 
    So with DirectX not being much in the mobile market at all and with mobile gaming currently being the top seller it makes me wonder how relevant DirectX is by comparision. Arent all PS4 games non-DirectX? When you consider that opengl can work on anything but DirectX is very specific it would be interesting to see what the real numbers are on this.
    Why do you care so much?  We know you think it's all about mobile gaming but sorry I have interet in what developers use to create candy crush or FarmVille.  

    I can guarentee direct x will be relevant as long as you continue to play video games...do you even play them anymore or just post pointless threads? 
    I agree that DirectX will be relevant and important in gaming. I just wonder if they are as relevant or as wide spread as people think. I am sorry that this view makes people so upset.
    Who are these people who worry about stuff like this?  I could care less how my games are made and I'm confused why others care so much.  The truth is the only reason I commented in this thread was because I saw you post misinformation again on purpose lol.  Now you continue to ask me about the topic and I have no problem telling this topic has zero impact on me...
    ok well thanks for your input into this, I would say its insightful but I am not sure why someone would actively be participating in this conversation if they felt that way.
    Again you asked me questions...it would be rude if I didn't reply to them.
    So on this sub topic as well as the main topic I was wrong about a lot of details however those mistakes doesn't strongly affect the core question and in fact leaves the proposition still open.

    Now why do people get completely and uderly hysterically defensive about it I am not sure. Its like they feel as if I am actually a threat to the sanctity of Microsoft. I think maybe they should get some perspective and calm down if they have nothing to be concerned about.

    Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.

    Please do not respond to me

  • Tasslehoff35Tasslehoff35 Member UncommonPosts: 962
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:

    So with mobile gaming currently being the top earner in the gaming industry and DirectX not really being in that space much at all It makes me wonder how prevalent DirectX really is. Some of my games are openGL however most are likely DirectX (another mistake I made yesterday) however most of my games are Unity (this was the mistake I made yesterday).

    So i wonder (I dont know but I wonder) how factual the assumption is that DirectX is the most used API. Regarding profits however its really really hard to measure

    and I dont put you on ignore because you are super special and funny so I like it
    Who cares about any of that.  You and the other "experts" can keep "wondering" all day and look like...well can't really say what you look like you seem to be a little sensitive this morning.  You are most likely just upset for being called out.
    So when I saw that mobile gaming is currently the top seller in gaming I started to think about where DirectX is currently in that space and it got me to think about it. I am not drawing any conclusions from it and I am not saying that DirectX is NOT more important or otherwise what I am saying though its that its not that obvious without digging deepers into it which I dont think anyone here actually has done.

    I used to be a SERIOUS Microsoft Fan boy not but about 3 years ago so I completely understand where the bias and fanaticism comes from
    Are you saying I'm a Microsoft fan boy?  Yeah with my iPhone, kindle fire, oh but yeah I do use Windows 10 and own an xb1 yep I guess that means I'm a fan boy.  Oh and I also correct people who continued to post the wrong info and tell those who have no knowledge of the topic they are talking about...yeah not a fan boy here...see you still have your bias, fanaticism but just took it to the other bandwagon. 
    So with DirectX not being much in the mobile market at all and with mobile gaming currently being the top seller it makes me wonder how relevant DirectX is by comparision. Arent all PS4 games non-DirectX? When you consider that opengl can work on anything but DirectX is very specific it would be interesting to see what the real numbers are on this.
    Why do you care so much?  We know you think it's all about mobile gaming but sorry I have interet in what developers use to create candy crush or FarmVille.  

    I can guarentee direct x will be relevant as long as you continue to play video games...do you even play them anymore or just post pointless threads? 
    I agree that DirectX will be relevant and important in gaming. I just wonder if they are as relevant or as wide spread as people think. I am sorry that this view makes people so upset.
    Who are these people who worry about stuff like this?  I could care less how my games are made and I'm confused why others care so much.  The truth is the only reason I commented in this thread was because I saw you post misinformation again on purpose lol.  Now you continue to ask me about the topic and I have no problem telling this topic has zero impact on me...
    ok well thanks for your input into this, I would say its insightful but I am not sure why someone would actively be participating in this conversation if they felt that way.
    Again you asked me questions...it would be rude if I didn't reply to them.
    So on this sub topic as well as the main topic I was wrong about a lot of details however those mistakes doesn't strongly affect the core question and in fact leaves the proposition still open.

    Now why do people get completely and uderly hysterically defensive about it I am not sure. Its like they feel as if I am actually a threat to the sanctity of Microsoft. I think maybe they should get some perspective and calm down if they have nothing to be concerned about.

    I can't speak for others but I do think you have a weird awkward obsession with MS I've stated many times your solo crusade won't have an impact on them.  But my first comment was directed at you intentionally posting inaccurate information.  You were the one who got hot and bothered about that .
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  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
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    As I stated before and showed proof. Apple generates a huge sum of profit from the mobile market. Apple has designed their own API called 'Metal' spurning OpenGL. So since Apple, one of the largest mobile contributors does not use OpenGL in most of their mobile devices I will repose the question as perhaps the wide spread useage of OpenGL is not as great as you think in the mobile market. Just as not all PC games are DirectX not all mobile are OpenGL.
    but here is the thing.

    I am NOT making a claim. YOU are

    I am saying that given mobile it APPEARS that DirectX is not as relevant as people think. People who are stating as a fact that DirectX is as relevant as people think are the ones who need to provide proof because I am not making a claim, I am making a suggestion. and I am also the one who is making the claim that figuring out the 'profit' from the APIs is nearly impossible

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  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775

    So on this sub topic as well as the main topic I was wrong about a lot of details however those mistakes doesn't strongly affect the core question and in fact leaves the proposition still open.

    Now why do people get completely and uderly hysterically defensive about it I am not sure. Its like they feel as if I am actually a threat to the sanctity of Microsoft. I think maybe they should get some perspective and calm down if they have nothing to be concerned about.

    I can't speak for others but I do think you have a weird awkward obsession with MS I've stated many times your solo crusade won't have an impact on them.  But my first comment was directed at you intentionally posting inaccurate information.  You were the one who got hot and bothered about that .
    thank you for sharing.

    I am making the SUGGESTION (not a claimed fact) that is APPEARS as if DirectX is not as relevant and people think. Some here are suggesting that this SUGGESTION is factually wrong but not providing facts 

    Suggestion
    Facts

    not the same

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