Ok which is xb1 closest too? The top or the bottom? Please take your time as you study the above list.
I am sorry i dont understand what you are saying.
Steam accounts alone that are active is 125 million. the 'top' is mobile, not PS4.
your looking at the items within the category that is on the top of the earners list.
Wow you are struggling today aren't you. Ok first you were wrong (shocker we know) You said "xb1 is the lowest of the console". Above is the list of CONSOLES. Then you said Xbox one was at "near the bottom of that list" again you were wrong (another shocker) because it clearly is not.
How many times can you get caught in a lie dude? Have some self respect for yourself and try to actually Google some info and try to get something right today.
again your fixated on the wrong part of the story. I encourage you to focus on the intent of what was said. If I am wrong and even if Xbox One is the top selling console of all time it doesnt change the core of what I said which is Mobile first, PC second, Console third, 20 million is not a lot.
Steam active accounts ALONE is 125 million. 20 million units is not a lot, peroid end of story
Oh my you were destroyed about this stat in one of your last post...no little buddy it's not the end of the story.
Here are the actual facts. Have fun and yes quote them all you want.
In 2015 steam had $3.5 Billion in sales (this includes from third part vendors) this is 15% of global PC sales. According to your own info consoles generated $34BILLION in sales that $30 BILLION MORE THAN STEAM.
As of November they only had 12 million concurrent users compared to Microsoft 48 million users.
48 MILLION is a lot more than 12 million and that's only comparing Xbox if you want we can destroy your "125 million steam numbers" by having psn and wii accounts added in.
20 million units is not a lot of units.
mobile is the top seller, PC is the second revenue gainer, consoles are at the bottom.
if you disagree and find my statements unreasonable then DONT REPLY
Console: $29 billoin if the article is incorrect please illustrate
It's so cute when you are caught in a lie how you shift the topic...I reply because you lie.. You if you stop lying and trying to squirm your way out of that lie I'll stop responding...but clearly you are not capable of not lying. I think we are up to 5 or 6 just today.
Actually you made the claim yesterday that 90% of mobile uses OpenGL. That is false.
Here is your quote:
"Yeah I am not sure its that obvious. About 1/2 of my PC games are OpenGL, -FALSE
So 90% or more of mobile game sales are OpenGL -- FALSE Mobile game sells more than PC or console. Not all PC games are DirectX by a good margin these days. --FALSE Xbox only has 10 million units, Sony has almost 40 million. --FALSE OpenGL is far more used then you are aware" --FALSE
So again OpenGL is not used as much as you are aware.
Ok so Blue has you down for FIVE lies already let me add a few more.
6) Xbox one is last in consoles- A lie
7) Xbox one is near the bottom of consoles -A lie
8) 125 million active accounts means steam is better than consoles-A lie (steam had 12 million concurrent users in November 2015 while Xbox live alone had 48million shall we had just the psn to destroy your "125 million number Sean)
Ok which is xb1 closest too? The top or the bottom? Please take your time as you study the above list.
I am sorry i dont understand what you are saying.
Steam accounts alone that are active is 125 million. the 'top' is mobile, not PS4.
your looking at the items within the category that is on the top of the earners list.
Wow you are struggling today aren't you. Ok first you were wrong (shocker we know) You said "xb1 is the lowest of the console". Above is the list of CONSOLES. Then you said Xbox one was at "near the bottom of that list" again you were wrong (another shocker) because it clearly is not.
How many times can you get caught in a lie dude? Have some self respect for yourself and try to actually Google some info and try to get something right today.
again your fixated on the wrong part of the story. I encourage you to focus on the intent of what was said. If I am wrong and even if Xbox One is the top selling console of all time it doesnt change the core of what I said which is Mobile first, PC second, Console third, 20 million is not a lot.
Steam active accounts ALONE is 125 million. 20 million units is not a lot, peroid end of story
Oh my you were destroyed about this stat in one of your last post...no little buddy it's not the end of the story.
Here are the actual facts. Have fun and yes quote them all you want.
In 2015 steam had $3.5 Billion in sales (this includes from third part vendors) this is 15% of global PC sales. According to your own info consoles generated $34BILLION in sales that $30 BILLION MORE THAN STEAM.
As of November they only had 12 million concurrent users compared to Microsoft 48 million users.
48 MILLION is a lot more than 12 million and that's only comparing Xbox if you want we can destroy your "125 million steam numbers" by having psn and wii accounts added in.
20 million units is not a lot of units.
mobile is the top seller, PC is the second revenue gainer, consoles are at the bottom.
if you disagree and find my statements unreasonable then DONT REPLY
Console: $29 billoin if the article is incorrect please illustrate
It's so cute when you are caught in a lie how you shift the topic...I reply because you lie.. You if you stop lying and trying to squirm your way out of that lie I'll stop responding...but clearly you are not capable of not lying. I think we are up to 5 or 6 just today.
point to be exactly where in the linked article it is wrong.
otherwise you are wasting your time replying to me because i am sticking to it and the more you post the more these facts will be seen and with you not refuting them
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Ok which is xb1 closest too? The top or the bottom? Please take your time as you study the above list.
I am sorry i dont understand what you are saying.
Steam accounts alone that are active is 125 million. the 'top' is mobile, not PS4.
your looking at the items within the category that is on the top of the earners list.
Wow you are struggling today aren't you. Ok first you were wrong (shocker we know) You said "xb1 is the lowest of the console". Above is the list of CONSOLES. Then you said Xbox one was at "near the bottom of that list" again you were wrong (another shocker) because it clearly is not.
How many times can you get caught in a lie dude? Have some self respect for yourself and try to actually Google some info and try to get something right today.
again your fixated on the wrong part of the story. I encourage you to focus on the intent of what was said. If I am wrong and even if Xbox One is the top selling console of all time it doesnt change the core of what I said which is Mobile first, PC second, Console third, 20 million is not a lot.
Steam active accounts ALONE is 125 million. 20 million units is not a lot, peroid end of story
Oh my you were destroyed about this stat in one of your last post...no little buddy it's not the end of the story.
Here are the actual facts. Have fun and yes quote them all you want.
In 2015 steam had $3.5 Billion in sales (this includes from third part vendors) this is 15% of global PC sales. According to your own info consoles generated $34BILLION in sales that $30 BILLION MORE THAN STEAM.
As of November they only had 12 million concurrent users compared to Microsoft 48 million users.
48 MILLION is a lot more than 12 million and that's only comparing Xbox if you want we can destroy your "125 million steam numbers" by having psn and wii accounts added in.
20 million units is not a lot of units.
mobile is the top seller, PC is the second revenue gainer, consoles are at the bottom.
if you disagree and find my statements unreasonable then DONT REPLY
Console: $29 billoin if the article is incorrect please illustrate
It's so cute when you are caught in a lie how you shift the topic...I reply because you lie.. You if you stop lying and trying to squirm your way out of that lie I'll stop responding...but clearly you are not capable of not lying. I think we are up to 5 or 6 just today.
point to be exactly where in the linked article it is wrong.
otherwise you are wasting your time replying to me because i am sticking to it and the more you post the more these facts will be seen and with you not refuting them
Sticking to your 8 lies today? Ok have fun with that...
Console: $29 billoin if the article is incorrect please illustrate
Haha none of that was part of your 8 lies today. Your desperate attempt to avoid your lies is hilarious. If you think you can reply enough times your lies will get lost in the next page lol...oh too bad they won't, they are there forever for everyone to see.
Console: $29 billoin if the article is incorrect please illustrate
Haha none of that was part of your 8 lies today. Your desperate attempt to avoid your lies is hilarious. If you think you can reply enough times your lies will get lost in the next page lol...oh too bad they won't, they are there forever for everyone to see.
So you agree with this part of the article: that sells in the console gaming space is 29 billion. yes? So if someone is coming up with a number that is larger than $29 billion they need to explain why this article is wrong
I think one point could be made for not just console game sales, which is what the info states, but also the money earned from the Xbox Live and PSN membership costs earns for the console market.
and how about PC gaming peripherals? Portal 2 board games (as an example).
I think one point could be made for not just console game sales, which is what the info states, but also the money earned from the Xbox Live and PSN membership costs earns for the console market.
and how about PC gaming peripherals? Portal 2 board games (as an example).
Except I listed ALL EIGHT OF (and personally corrected you on 4 of them while others corrected you on the rest) your lies so it's not an insult it's the truth. Now a person who clearly is having issues today telling the truth like yourself it may appear as an insult.
I think one point could be made for not just console game sales, which is what the info states, but also the money earned from the Xbox Live and PSN membership costs earns for the console market.
and how about PC gaming peripherals? Portal 2 board games (as an example).
Except I listed ALL EIGHT OF your lies so it's not an insult it's the truth. Now a person who clearly is having issues today telling the truth like yourself it may appear as an insult.
So based on this article below anyone who is quoting a figure above $29 billion for console sales is lying?
I think one point could be made for not just console game sales, which is what the info states, but also the money earned from the Xbox Live and PSN membership costs earns for the console market.
and how about PC gaming peripherals? Portal 2 board games (as an example).
Except I listed ALL EIGHT OF your lies so it's not an insult it's the truth. Now a person who clearly is having issues today telling the truth like yourself it may appear as an insult.
So based on this article below anyone who is quoting a figure above $29 billion for console sales is lying?
Console: $29 billoin if the article is incorrect please illustrate
Again this wasn't one of your EIGHT LIES today. The only reason you keep copy/pasting this over and over is too push your lies further and further down this thread...have no fear I will keep responding with the same response. .
No they are perhaps not lying, we do not know since not every publisher releases sales numbers. Or the nature in which they gathered their information. Digital sales seem hard to track and getting accurate numbers is a challenge. Yet to not include Xbox Live and PSN memberships in the console sales numbers is painting an inaccurate picture of sales on consoles because the memberships are integral to the experience. If you factor them into the numbers, which you should, it eclipses PC sales numbers.
however the core point from the begining never has been does PC sale more than consoles. its always been 'with mobile is DirectX as significant as people assume' that has been my core position this entire time. Peoples complete and total obsession with consoles and Microshaft has continiously mis directed the frame.
We could get into the whole PSN memberships vs HOTAS sales for PC until we are blue in the face but its not really realted to my core point. I personally dont give a fuck if consoles sell more than PCs anyway.
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
No they are perhaps not lying, we do not know since not every publisher releases sales numbers. Or the nature in which they gathered their information. Digital sales seem hard to track and getting accurate numbers is a challenge. Yet to not include Xbox Live and PSN memberships in the console sales numbers is painting an inaccurate picture of sales on consoles because the memberships are integral to the experience. If you factor them into the numbers, which you should, it eclipses PC sales numbers.
however the core point from the begining never has been does PC sale more than consoles. its always been 'with mobile is DirectX as significant as people assume' that has been my core position this entire time. Peoples complete and total obsession with consoles and Microshaft has continiously mis directed the frame.
We could get into the whole PSN memberships vs HOTAS sales for PC until we are blue in the face but its not really realted to my core point. I personally dont give a fuck if consoles sell more than PCs anyway.
That is a lie. You care or you would not continue to post that consoles are the lowest earner over and over and over again. Which in reality, is wrong. Total digital and box sales numbers are higher than $29 billion with the memberships which nearly everyone with a console has. Consoles are number 2. Mobile is number one.
wow! I am using that as an example of distance in order to make the point more clear and less debateable.
wow...unbelievebale
the POINT is because of mobile it appears DX is not as relevant as people might think. I have said for the 1 billionith time.
the center point of orbit is:
it appears DX is not as relevant as people might think
Console being the 2nd most sold does not change that, console being at the bottom makes the point more clear actuall wait it doesnt goddamnit now you guys have gotten me pulled into this shit and isnt even my point
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
not sure what I think about this but its interesting
Will Android support DirectX? does it matter? not sure
THIS and derivatives of it has been point position, point and question the whole time please do not drag me subtlety into a PC vs console debate I dont want any part of it.
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
No they are perhaps not lying, we do not know since not every publisher releases sales numbers. Or the nature in which they gathered their information. Digital sales seem hard to track and getting accurate numbers is a challenge. Yet to not include Xbox Live and PSN memberships in the console sales numbers is painting an inaccurate picture of sales on consoles because the memberships are integral to the experience. If you factor them into the numbers, which you should, it eclipses PC sales numbers.
however the core point from the begining never has been does PC sale more than consoles. its always been 'with mobile is DirectX as significant as people assume' that has been my core position this entire time. Peoples complete and total obsession with consoles and Microshaft has continiously mis directed the frame.
We could get into the whole PSN memberships vs HOTAS sales for PC until we are blue in the face but its not really realted to my core point. I personally dont give a fuck if consoles sell more than PCs anyway.
That is a lie. You care or you would not continue to post that consoles are the lowest earner over and over and over again. Which in reality, is wrong. Total digital and box sales numbers are higher than $29 billion with the memberships which nearly everyone with a console has. Consoles are number 2. Mobile is number one.
Not sure how we got back on this topic in this thread but my other thread nailed it pretty well.
"Console games, by contrast, will account for 26% of global gaming revenue in 2019, down from 30% in 2015. PCs will follow suit, with a drop from 28% in 2015 to 25% in 2019. But even with these declines, total revenue from these two segments will continue to rise."
Basically its the same conversation all over again.
I've proven to Sean countless times that 1) The market is in favor of Consoles outpacing PC in revenue in the near future 2) Console games outsell PC games of the same title by huge margins 3) Mobile is the highest generating gaming revenue stream (which he contested in the same thread link I posted many many times)
It's essentially the reason he put me on "ignore" it got to the point where he just couldn't argue the points anymore. He would rather ignore the facts than simply acknowledge he was wrong. I understand it, as I'm sure he would have gotten tired of typing "I am wrong again, sorry" over and over again.
not sure what I think about this but its interesting
Will Android support DirectX? does it matter? not sure
THIS and derivatives of it has been point position, point and question the whole time please do not drag me subtlety into a PC vs console debate I dont want any part of it.
lol how's it feel? This was all orchestrated point made.
point was that you can manipulate me into talking about consoles vs PC in a thread in which my point wasnt related?
why do I feel like that is a classic asshat thing to do?
please read my signature.
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
I would say, those paying for Candy Crush aren't with any significant level of overlap the same players who are paying for GTA5 or the new Doom.
currently the Mobile gaming market is the top earner in the gaming industry. in the Mobile gaming market as far as I know DX12 has zero presence.
More over, OpenGL is not a company with profits and DX12 is not something you buy directly from Microsoft. So, with those TWO items (please do not overlook the first one). I ask, how does one measure profits?
(added: on a casual observation if DX12 is not even in the segment of the gaming industry that is making the most money but OpenGL is, it begs the question, is DX actually more relevant?)
I made reference to topics you yourself brought up. I presented facts. You dismissed them by saying the same thing over and over again never proving your point. You were caught in lie after lie and continue to make things up to fit into your own agenda. The asshat is clearly shown in the thread. Nice try bring a better game.
currently the Mobile gaming market is the top earner in the gaming industry. in the Mobile gaming market as far as I know DX12 has zero presence.
More over, OpenGL is not a company with profits and DX12 is not something you buy directly from Microsoft. So, with those TWO items (please do not overlook the first one). I ask, how does one measure profits?
(added: on a casual observation if DX12 is not even in the segment of the gaming industry that is making the most money but OpenGL is, it begs the question, is DX actually more relevant?)
So you agree with this part of the article: that sells in the console gaming space is 29 billion. yes? So if someone is coming up with a number that is larger than $29 billion they need to explain why this article is wrong
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6) Xbox one is last in consoles- A lie
7) Xbox one is near the bottom of consoles -A lie
8) 125 million active accounts means steam is better than consoles-A lie (steam had 12 million concurrent users in November 2015 while Xbox live alone had 48million shall we had just the psn to destroy your "125 million number Sean)
otherwise you are wasting your time replying to me because i am sticking to it and the more you post the more these facts will be seen and with you not refuting them
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
if the article is incorrect please illustrate
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Please do not respond to me
if the article is incorrect please illustrate
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
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Tasslehoff35 is really just struggling and being as insulting as he possibly can be for reason of which I assume is because his position (which is slighly unknown) is rather weak so he has to resort to calling people liars
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if the article is incorrect please illustrate
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We could get into the whole PSN memberships vs HOTAS sales for PC until we are blue in the face but its not really realted to my core point. I personally dont give a fuck if consoles sell more than PCs anyway.
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
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I am using that as an example of distance in order to make the point more clear and less debateable.
wow...unbelievebale
the POINT is because of mobile it appears DX is not as relevant as people might think. I have said for the 1 billionith time.
the center point of orbit is:
it appears DX is not as relevant as people might think
Console being the 2nd most sold does not change that, console being at the bottom makes the point more clear actuall wait it doesnt goddamnit now you guys have gotten me pulled into this shit and isnt even my point
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
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"Console games, by contrast, will account for 26% of global gaming revenue in 2019, down from 30% in 2015. PCs will follow suit, with a drop from 28% in 2015 to 25% in 2019. But even with these declines, total revenue from these two segments will continue to rise."
http://www.businessinsider.com/mobile-gaming-will-surpass-legacy-gaming-in-2016-2016-4
Based on trending in general, PC looks to be declining again.
He's also once again referencing the Newzoo article.... I explained that pretty well here:
http://forums.mmorpg.com/discussion/comment/6935888/#Comment_6935888
Basically its the same conversation all over again.
I've proven to Sean countless times that
1) The market is in favor of Consoles outpacing PC in revenue in the near future
2) Console games outsell PC games of the same title by huge margins
3) Mobile is the highest generating gaming revenue stream (which he contested in the same thread link I posted many many times)
It's essentially the reason he put me on "ignore" it got to the point where he just couldn't argue the points anymore. He would rather ignore the facts than simply acknowledge he was wrong. I understand it, as I'm sure he would have gotten tired of typing "I am wrong again, sorry" over and over again.
why do I feel like that is a classic asshat thing to do?
please read my signature.
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
http://www.kotaku.com.au/2016/05/the-next-version-of-android-suppots-vulkan-graphics/
not sure what I think about this but its interesting
Will Android support DirectX? does it matter? not sure
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Please do not respond to me
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in the Mobile gaming market as far as I know DX12 has zero presence.
More over, OpenGL is not a company with profits and DX12 is not something you buy directly from Microsoft. So, with those TWO items (please do not overlook the first one). I ask, how does one measure profits?
(added: on a casual observation if DX12 is not even in the segment of the gaming industry that is making the most money but OpenGL is, it begs the question, is DX actually more relevant?)
hmmmm
http://www.kotaku.com.au/2016/05/the-next-version-of-android-suppots-vulkan-graphics/
not sure what I think about this but its interesting
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I said these things yesterday
and it is what I am saying is my core point today.....please this is not about consoles/pc wars save it.
does correcting the fact that DX12 does exist in the mobile market but that % is very small change my observation any? not really
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