So my original point is it's not just toxic people you have to watch out for, but people who are so thin-skinned, the slightest comment (even indirectly) will trigger them to the point where they vote/report/kick/ban you.
You can vote/report/kick/ban them too. The playing field is very level.
Yeah and in MY 30 years of playing online games...
30 years ago we were in 1987. So I call bullshit. But at least now I remember why I had you on ignore.
Why , i was playin Online Text Muds in 85 , and yes even then i recall some real idiots in game ... But it certainly was happening then , i was playing on my C64 using Quantum-Link
You maybe, there was stuff like Habitat back then, but the network access through modem back then was RARE and utterly expensive. The person I'm answering to definitely not, though.
Wrong AGAIN...
Do I really have to go back through your post history and prove that your real life age makes what you claim to have done impossible? Unless you lied about that several times too... We already had that conversation before.
Another thing you've proven over and over again in your arguments is that you are actually part of those persons we talk about here. So it's no surprise you're defending them with whatever argument you can come up with.
Anyway, back on the ignore list, and you should have stayed there. My bad on that part.
Funny.. you're right I imagined my whole life and you know it better than me. But thank you for PERFECTLY demonstrating EXACTLY my point when I said:
"Yes there are lots of players who behave in any annoying manner. There are also a lot of overly sensitive folks that play."
This is EXACTLY what I meant and perfectly proves my point
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Yeah and in MY 30 years of playing online games...
30 years ago we were in 1987. So I call bullshit. But at least now I remember why I had you on ignore.
Why , i was playin Online Text Muds in 85 , and yes even then i recall some real idiots in game ... But it certainly was happening then , i was playing on my C64 using Quantum-Link
You maybe, there was stuff like Habitat back then, but the network access through modem back then was RARE and utterly expensive. The person I'm answering to definitely not, though.
Wrong AGAIN...
Do I really have to go back through your post history and prove that your real life age makes what you claim to have done impossible? Unless you lied about that several times too... We already had that conversation before.
Another thing you've proven over and over again in your arguments is that you are actually part of those persons we talk about here. So it's no surprise you're defending them with whatever argument you can come up with.
Anyway, back on the ignore list, and you should have stayed there. My bad on that part.
Funny.. you're right I imagined my whole life and you know it better than me. But thank you for PERFECTLY demonstrating EXACTLY my point when I said:
"Yes there are lots of players who behave in any annoying manner. There are also a lot of overly sensitive folks that play."
This is EXACTLY what I meant and perfectly proves my point
lol .. both of your posts (well, i am sure one of you will say mine too) pretty much demonstrated succinctly the toxicity in online community. Good job!
Now we established that people are toxic, even here, may be we can go back to brain storm how else we can be toxic?
Or may be some of you will try to be take the moral high ground, and insist how nice you are .. but secretly thinking .. "ha .. let me show you how inferior you are to my superior moral standard"!!!
Yeah and in MY 30 years of playing online games...
30 years ago we were in 1987. So I call bullshit. But at least now I remember why I had you on ignore.
Why , i was playin Online Text Muds in 85 , and yes even then i recall some real idiots in game ... But it certainly was happening then , i was playing on my C64 using Quantum-Link
You maybe, there was stuff like Habitat back then, but the network access through modem back then was RARE and utterly expensive. The person I'm answering to definitely not, though.
Wrong AGAIN...
Do I really have to go back through your post history and prove that your real life age makes what you claim to have done impossible? Unless you lied about that several times too... We already had that conversation before.
Another thing you've proven over and over again in your arguments is that you are actually part of those persons we talk about here. So it's no surprise you're defending them with whatever argument you can come up with.
Anyway, back on the ignore list, and you should have stayed there. My bad on that part.
Funny.. you're right I imagined my whole life and you know it better than me. But thank you for PERFECTLY demonstrating EXACTLY my point when I said:
"Yes there are lots of players who behave in any annoying manner. There are also a lot of overly sensitive folks that play."
This is EXACTLY what I meant and perfectly proves my point
lol .. both of your posts (well, i am sure one of you will say mine too) pretty much demonstrated succinctly the toxicity in online community. Good job!
Now we established that people are toxic, even here, may be we can go back to brain storm how else we can be toxic?
Or may be some of you will try to be take the moral high ground, and insist how nice you are .. but secretly thinking .. "ha .. let me show you how inferior you are to my superior moral standard"!!!
I don't think anything by either person (or you) was "toxic". Guess that's the difference. He said some things that weren't "nice" but that isn't toxic. Not everyone is going to agree.
I stand 100% behind the statement that utterly sexist and racist comments including life threats are super rare. Those people are wrong sure, but that's a fraction of a percent of players and they should be banned and in the case of a threat they should be legally held accountable.
Instead we try to describe anyone who doesn't 100% agree with us as "toxic" which is silly and just dilutes the word.
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They're immature people (mentally, not physically) who have no lives except for their gaming lives. In the real world they're No-one, but in their gaming world they're Someone. They do the petty, spiteful things to people in online games that others do to them in real life. They're nobody you'd want to be friends with in real life!
Ah yes - lets stereotype and put everyone into a nice little package we can label.
I game with RL friends who are the core of a guild Ive been in for the last 17 years.
We are a competitive guild that plays a lot of PvP games, and we talk smack and cause hell for players in games at times.
The hardest griefer in our guild is a double PhD in physics and molecular biology, also one of the genuinely nicest down to earth people I know, who goes and gives food and cooks for homeless downtown on weekends.
people do stuff in games because they CAN, thats it.
I disagree with that last sentence. I also know very smart people(PhD, MS, ,etc) in online communities that do NOT do this behavior. So, the fact that they can doesn't necessarily force everyone to do it. There is something else that triggers than behavior. You can't say they do it because they can because if that was the case they would all do it.
Yeah and in MY 30 years of playing online games...
30 years ago we were in 1987. So I call bullshit. But at least now I remember why I had you on ignore.
Why , i was playin Online Text Muds in 85 , and yes even then i recall some real idiots in game ... But it certainly was happening then , i was playing on my C64 using Quantum-Link
You maybe, there was stuff like Habitat back then, but the network access through modem back then was RARE and utterly expensive. The person I'm answering to definitely not, though.
My father was ..erhmm creative and all my interent access was free , in those days , Was awesome
the 'internet' wasnt public in 1987. it only existed in the military at that time
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
I don't think anything by either person (or you) was "toxic". Guess that's the difference. He said some things that weren't "nice" but that isn't toxic. Not everyone is going to agree.
I stand 100% behind the statement that utterly sexist and racist comments including life threats are super rare. Those people are wrong sure, but that's a fraction of a percent of players and they should be banned and in the case of a threat they should be legally held accountable.
Instead we try to describe anyone who doesn't 100% agree with us as "toxic" which is silly and just dilutes the word.
And these are exactly what SJW's are... and they have pretty much taken over everything. Not only will they "describe you as toxic because you don't agree with them", but they will try to get you banned on websites/games, get you to lose your job (look at Tim Allen "last man standing"), and in some countries imprisonment(https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/3de7fj/canadian_man_facing_six_months_in_jail_for_tweets/).
I've been noticing a serious problem of this censorship since around the elections last year when trump supporters (I'm not one of them, but the violence from the left shutting down free speech is turning me into the right) were being attacked IRL.
dude...your victimology is getting boring
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
I disagree with that last sentence. I also know very smart people(PhD, MS, ,etc) in online communities that do NOT do this behavior. So, the fact that they can doesn't necessarily force everyone to do it. There is something else that triggers than behavior. You can't say they do it because they can because if that was the case they would all do it.
and i know people with PhD who do this behavior. PhDs are less than 2% of the US population. In this discussion, they don't matter much.
No one says everyone is doing it ... but since people can, a lot of them are. Otherwise, we won't be talking about toxic community here.
I disagree with that last sentence. I also know very smart people(PhD, MS, ,etc) in online communities that do NOT do this behavior. So, the fact that they can doesn't necessarily force everyone to do it. There is something else that triggers than behavior. You can't say they do it because they can because if that was the case they would all do it.
and i know people with PhD who do this behavior. PhDs are less than 2% of the US population. In this discussion, they don't matter much.
No one says everyone is doing it ... but since people can, a lot of them are. Otherwise, we won't be talking about toxic community here.
why do I get the feeling that you do not actually know PhDs that do this behavior and that your just saying that to make a point?
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
I disagree with that last sentence. I also know very smart people(PhD, MS, ,etc) in online communities that do NOT do this behavior. So, the fact that they can doesn't necessarily force everyone to do it. There is something else that triggers than behavior. You can't say they do it because they can because if that was the case they would all do it.
and i know people with PhD who do this behavior. PhDs are less than 2% of the US population. In this discussion, they don't matter much.
No one says everyone is doing it ... but since people can, a lot of them are. Otherwise, we won't be talking about toxic community here.
why do I get the feeling that you do not actually know PhDs that do this behavior and that your just saying that to make a point?
He is likely referring to his GP. We can at least give him that.
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It's simple really......well, I believe it is. Players, especially the elitists, are simply not as good as they pretend to be and in order to maintain that illusion, they belittle everyone else.
Another reason is due to a dynamic called "The Meta" Which means to them, you follow the meta or you are ridiculed. Because Class X is better than Class Y, you will play class X. The fact that someone might actually be better at Class Y then they would be at class X and can make Class Y perform adequately does not factor in with these people.
And in my experience, both of the 2 reasons stated above generally come form the same people.
It's simple really......well, I believe it is. Players, especially the elitists, are simply not as good as they pretend to be and in order to maintain that illusion, they belittle everyone else.
Another reason is due to a dynamic called "The Meta" Which means to them, you follow the meta or you are ridiculed. Because Class X is better than Class Y, you will play class X. The fact that someone might actually be better at Class Y then they would be at class X and can make Class Y perform adequately does not factor in with these people.
There was actually a pretty good discussion in the ESO forums recently about the difference between elite and elitist.
Elite players are just very good players who adapt to different situations and will cheerfully carry a bad group through an instance if that's the type of situation they find themselves in.
Elitist, OTOH, are toxic and insecure wannabes always pointing fingers at everyone but themselves for their lack of ability even when everything is going well.
"Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community ... but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots”
― Umberto Eco
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” ― CD PROJEKT RED
It's simple really......well, I believe it is. Players, especially the elitists, are simply not as good as they pretend to be and in order to maintain that illusion, they belittle everyone else.
Another reason is due to a dynamic called "The Meta" Which means to them, you follow the meta or you are ridiculed. Because Class X is better than Class Y, you will play class X. The fact that someone might actually be better at Class Y then they would be at class X and can make Class Y perform adequately does not factor in with these people.
There was actually a pretty good discussion in the ESO forums recently about the difference between elite and elitist.
Elite players are just very good players who adapt to different situations and will cheerfully carry a bad group through an instance if that's the type of situation they find themselves in.
Elitist, OTOH, are toxic and insecure wannabes always pointing fingers at everyone but themselves for their lack of ability even when everything is going well.
LITERALLY made up definitions.
There is nothing wrong with that but its good to recall later when one gets into a semantics debate that the words themselves and their meaning in the context they are being used were completely made up in the first place.
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
It's simple really......well, I believe it is. Players, especially the elitists, are simply not as good as they pretend to be and in order to maintain that illusion, they belittle everyone else.
Another reason is due to a dynamic called "The Meta" Which means to them, you follow the meta or you are ridiculed. Because Class X is better than Class Y, you will play class X. The fact that someone might actually be better at Class Y then they would be at class X and can make Class Y perform adequately does not factor in with these people.
There was actually a pretty good discussion in the ESO forums recently about the difference between elite and elitist.
Elite players are just very good players who adapt to different situations and will cheerfully carry a bad group through an instance if that's the type of situation they find themselves in.
Elitist, OTOH, are toxic and insecure wannabes always pointing fingers at everyone but themselves for their lack of ability even when everything is going well.
I am seeing this too. FFXIV just released Stormblood. A very good expansion overall. However, it has issues. They tried to revise combat including reducing ability bloat and the need for cross class leveling in another Job just to obtain a required skill. Unfortunately, this left some jobs wanting. They have lost their "identity" in some cases, and in others, just cannot perform as well as they used to. And for those die-hards who love their favorite role no matter what, they have the added stress of ridicule now.
It's simple really......well, I believe it is. Players, especially the elitists, are simply not as good as they pretend to be and in order to maintain that illusion, they belittle everyone else.
Another reason is due to a dynamic called "The Meta" Which means to them, you follow the meta or you are ridiculed. Because Class X is better than Class Y, you will play class X. The fact that someone might actually be better at Class Y then they would be at class X and can make Class Y perform adequately does not factor in with these people.
There was actually a pretty good discussion in the ESO forums recently about the difference between elite and elitist.
Elite players are just very good players who adapt to different situations and will cheerfully carry a bad group through an instance if that's the type of situation they find themselves in.
Elitist, OTOH, are toxic and insecure wannabes always pointing fingers at everyone but themselves for their lack of ability even when everything is going well.
LITERALLY made up definitions.
There is nothing wrong with that but its good to recall later when one gets into a semantics debate that the words themselves and their meaning in the context they are being used were completely made up in the first place.
Why would you say that these are literally made up? Urban Dictionary captures the difference quite well, and I believe Urbran Dictionary is probably much more applicable to the gaming community than something like Websters.
It's simple really......well, I believe it is. Players, especially the elitists, are simply not as good as they pretend to be and in order to maintain that illusion, they belittle everyone else.
Another reason is due to a dynamic called "The Meta" Which means to them, you follow the meta or you are ridiculed. Because Class X is better than Class Y, you will play class X. The fact that someone might actually be better at Class Y then they would be at class X and can make Class Y perform adequately does not factor in with these people.
There was actually a pretty good discussion in the ESO forums recently about the difference between elite and elitist.
Elite players are just very good players who adapt to different situations and will cheerfully carry a bad group through an instance if that's the type of situation they find themselves in.
Elitist, OTOH, are toxic and insecure wannabes always pointing fingers at everyone but themselves for their lack of ability even when everything is going well.
LITERALLY made up definitions.
There is nothing wrong with that but its good to recall later when one gets into a semantics debate that the words themselves and their meaning in the context they are being used were completely made up in the first place.
Why would you say that these are literally made up? Urban Dictionary captures the difference quite well, and I believe Urbran Dictionary is probably much more applicable to the gaming community than something like Websters.
fair enough I stand corrected. I will say if those words were used that way in a conversation with me I wouldnt have a fucking clue
To me Elitist is someone who is Elite. but that is not how urban suggests it so how do you describe someone who is Elite but not an Elitist? kinda breaks down
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
It's simple really......well, I believe it is. Players, especially the elitists, are simply not as good as they pretend to be and in order to maintain that illusion, they belittle everyone else.
Another reason is due to a dynamic called "The Meta" Which means to them, you follow the meta or you are ridiculed. Because Class X is better than Class Y, you will play class X. The fact that someone might actually be better at Class Y then they would be at class X and can make Class Y perform adequately does not factor in with these people.
There was actually a pretty good discussion in the ESO forums recently about the difference between elite and elitist.
Elite players are just very good players who adapt to different situations and will cheerfully carry a bad group through an instance if that's the type of situation they find themselves in.
Elitist, OTOH, are toxic and insecure wannabes always pointing fingers at everyone but themselves for their lack of ability even when everything is going well.
LITERALLY made up definitions.
There is nothing wrong with that but its good to recall later when one gets into a semantics debate that the words themselves and their meaning in the context they are being used were completely made up in the first place.
elitist
[ih-lee-tist]
adjective
1.(of a person or class of persons) considered superior by others or by themselves, as in intellect, talent, power, wealth, or position in society:
It's simple really......well, I believe it is. Players, especially the elitists, are simply not as good as they pretend to be and in order to maintain that illusion, they belittle everyone else.
Another reason is due to a dynamic called "The Meta" Which means to them, you follow the meta or you are ridiculed. Because Class X is better than Class Y, you will play class X. The fact that someone might actually be better at Class Y then they would be at class X and can make Class Y perform adequately does not factor in with these people.
There was actually a pretty good discussion in the ESO forums recently about the difference between elite and elitist.
Elite players are just very good players who adapt to different situations and will cheerfully carry a bad group through an instance if that's the type of situation they find themselves in.
Elitist, OTOH, are toxic and insecure wannabes always pointing fingers at everyone but themselves for their lack of ability even when everything is going well.
LITERALLY made up definitions.
There is nothing wrong with that but its good to recall later when one gets into a semantics debate that the words themselves and their meaning in the context they are being used were completely made up in the first place.
Why would you say that these are literally made up? Urban Dictionary captures the difference quite well, and I believe Urbran Dictionary is probably much more applicable to the gaming community than something like Websters.
fair enough I stand corrected. I will say if those words were used that way in a conversation with me I wouldnt have a fucking clue
To me Elitist is someone who is Elite. but that is not how urban suggests it so how do you describe someone who is Elite but not an Elitist? kinda breaks down
IDK Sean, what do you call someone who's a human but not a humanist? You find that confusing too?
"Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community ... but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots”
― Umberto Eco
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” ― CD PROJEKT RED
It's simple really......well, I believe it is. Players, especially the elitists, are simply not as good as they pretend to be and in order to maintain that illusion, they belittle everyone else.
Another reason is due to a dynamic called "The Meta" Which means to them, you follow the meta or you are ridiculed. Because Class X is better than Class Y, you will play class X. The fact that someone might actually be better at Class Y then they would be at class X and can make Class Y perform adequately does not factor in with these people.
There was actually a pretty good discussion in the ESO forums recently about the difference between elite and elitist.
Elite players are just very good players who adapt to different situations and will cheerfully carry a bad group through an instance if that's the type of situation they find themselves in.
Elitist, OTOH, are toxic and insecure wannabes always pointing fingers at everyone but themselves for their lack of ability even when everything is going well.
LITERALLY made up definitions.
There is nothing wrong with that but its good to recall later when one gets into a semantics debate that the words themselves and their meaning in the context they are being used were completely made up in the first place.
elitist
[ih-lee-tist]
adjective
1.(of a person or class of persons) considered superior by others or by themselves, as in intellect, talent, power, wealth, or position in society:
yeah so the problem is this
What do you call a person who is Elite?
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
It's simple really......well, I believe it is. Players, especially the elitists, are simply not as good as they pretend to be and in order to maintain that illusion, they belittle everyone else.
Another reason is due to a dynamic called "The Meta" Which means to them, you follow the meta or you are ridiculed. Because Class X is better than Class Y, you will play class X. The fact that someone might actually be better at Class Y then they would be at class X and can make Class Y perform adequately does not factor in with these people.
There was actually a pretty good discussion in the ESO forums recently about the difference between elite and elitist.
Elite players are just very good players who adapt to different situations and will cheerfully carry a bad group through an instance if that's the type of situation they find themselves in.
Elitist, OTOH, are toxic and insecure wannabes always pointing fingers at everyone but themselves for their lack of ability even when everything is going well.
LITERALLY made up definitions.
There is nothing wrong with that but its good to recall later when one gets into a semantics debate that the words themselves and their meaning in the context they are being used were completely made up in the first place.
elitist
[ih-lee-tist]
adjective
1.(of a person or class of persons) considered superior by others or by themselves, as in intellect, talent, power, wealth, or position in society:
yeah so the problem is this
What do you call a person who is Elite?
Elite! Lol.
That's the problem, though, the vast majority of times the people who are elitist believe themselves to be Elite, but in the grand scheme of things they aren't. People who are Elite are generally regarded that way by others.
A great example. I was in a guild once with a guy who was an elitist. When WotLK released, he got a World First Dwarf (or Paladin) to 70!! Yay!!! I forget which. Either way, at that point we were no longer good enough for him, so he left to go to another server to play with an Elite guild. Months later we found out that he was actually in their 3rd string raid group, lol. That's not to say he wasn't good, or even great, but he definitely thought he was better than everyone else.
That's the problem, though, the vast majority of times the people who are elitist believe themselves to be Elite, but in the grand scheme of things they aren't. People who are Elite are generally regarded that way by others.
A great example. I was in a guild once with a guy who was an elitist. When WotLK released, he got a World First Dwarf (or Paladin) to 70!! Yay!!! I forget which. Either way, at that point we were no longer good enough for him, so he left to go to another server to play with an Elite guild. Months later we found out that he was actually in their 3rd string raid group, lol. That's not to say he wasn't good, or even great, but he definitely thought he was better than everyone else.
I am not sure on this but I dont think one who is Elite would be called an Elite.
anyway, regardless, Urban Dic (meaning barely qualified as slag) is good enough, thanks
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
why do I get the feeling that you do not actually know PhDs that do this behavior and that your just saying that to make a point?
because that is what the earlier poster did, and pretty much what everyone here is doing ... saying stuff to make a point?
In this case, there is really no way for you to verify anything and i don't expect you to believe me. But hey ... if you believe all PhDs are nice people, you have not read enough comments on ratemyprofessor.com.
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"Yes there are lots of players who behave in any annoying manner. There are also a lot of overly sensitive folks that play."
This is EXACTLY what I meant and perfectly proves my point
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lol .. both of your posts (well, i am sure one of you will say mine too) pretty much demonstrated succinctly the toxicity in online community. Good job!
Now we established that people are toxic, even here, may be we can go back to brain storm how else we can be toxic?
Or may be some of you will try to be take the moral high ground, and insist how nice you are .. but secretly thinking .. "ha .. let me show you how inferior you are to my superior moral standard"!!!
I stand 100% behind the statement that utterly sexist and racist comments including life threats are super rare. Those people are wrong sure, but that's a fraction of a percent of players and they should be banned and in the case of a threat they should be legally held accountable.
Instead we try to describe anyone who doesn't 100% agree with us as "toxic" which is silly and just dilutes the word.
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
Proudly wearing the Harbinger badge since Dec 23, 2017.
Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018
"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018
https://ashesofcreation.com/r/Y4U3PQCASUPJ5SED
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Like the label MMO is diluted? Now that is toxic.
and i know people with PhD who do this behavior. PhDs are less than 2% of the US population. In this discussion, they don't matter much.
No one says everyone is doing it ... but since people can, a lot of them are. Otherwise, we won't be talking about toxic community here.
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Another reason is due to a dynamic called "The Meta" Which means to them, you follow the meta or you are ridiculed. Because Class X is better than Class Y, you will play class X. The fact that someone might actually be better at Class Y then they would be at class X and can make Class Y perform adequately does not factor in with these people.
And in my experience, both of the 2 reasons stated above generally come form the same people.
Elite players are just very good players who adapt to different situations and will cheerfully carry a bad group through an instance if that's the type of situation they find themselves in.
Elitist, OTOH, are toxic and insecure wannabes always pointing fingers at everyone but themselves for their lack of ability even when everything is going well.
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
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Why would you say that these are literally made up? Urban Dictionary captures the difference quite well, and I believe Urbran Dictionary is probably much more applicable to the gaming community than something like Websters.
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I will say if those words were used that way in a conversation with me I wouldnt have a fucking clue
To me Elitist is someone who is Elite. but that is not how urban suggests it so how do you describe someone who is Elite but not an Elitist?
kinda breaks down
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What do you call a person who is Elite?
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Elite! Lol.
That's the problem, though, the vast majority of times the people who are elitist believe themselves to be Elite, but in the grand scheme of things they aren't. People who are Elite are generally regarded that way by others.
A great example. I was in a guild once with a guy who was an elitist. When WotLK released, he got a World First Dwarf (or Paladin) to 70!! Yay!!! I forget which. Either way, at that point we were no longer good enough for him, so he left to go to another server to play with an Elite guild. Months later we found out that he was actually in their 3rd string raid group, lol. That's not to say he wasn't good, or even great, but he definitely thought he was better than everyone else.
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anyway, regardless, Urban Dic (meaning barely qualified as slag) is good enough, thanks
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because that is what the earlier poster did, and pretty much what everyone here is doing ... saying stuff to make a point?
In this case, there is really no way for you to verify anything and i don't expect you to believe me. But hey ... if you believe all PhDs are nice people, you have not read enough comments on ratemyprofessor.com.