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  • Phobos40Phobos40 Member UncommonPosts: 13
    edited February 2018
    @Kyleran I'm from central Europe and I already asked Xsolla for a chargeback (they declined).

    Nevermind. As mentioned before. I'm not interested in CoE anymore. I'm quiet disappointed thinking about all the time Investednin it. But now I know that I never will spend money on such projects again.v6v

    And sorry if I missunderstood you concerning the nationality judgement.




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  • UngoodUngood Member LegendaryPosts: 7,534
    edited February 2018
    Phobos40 said:
    @Kyleran I'm from central Europe and I already asked Xsolla for a chargeback (they declined).

    Nevermind. As mentioned before. I'm not interested in CoE anymore. I'm quiet disappointed thinking about all the time Investednin it. But now I know that I never will spend money on such projects again.v6v

    And sorry if I missunderstood you concerning the nationality judgement.




    Everything else aside, I feel bad for you situation, life can really suck sometimes, but you know, we all need a learning moment like this, it helps us up grow up, so that we don't get taken advantage of for next time. It sucks, but often the learning parts of life suck. Wish that was not the case, but too often it is.

    However, I have to ask, and I in no way mean to be rude by this question, but how do you invest time into a game that does not exist yet?
    Egotism is the anesthetic that dullens the pain of stupidity, this is why when I try to beat my head against the stupidity of other people, I only hurt myself.

  • Phobos40Phobos40 Member UncommonPosts: 13
    edited February 2018
    @Ungood No worries. To respond to your question which time I invested. I created a Website for a german county (which was also mine for a time) - firstly Grafschaft Baiern - changed the name to Grafschaft Bavarica (www.chronicles-of-elyria.de). Made the presentation Video too. Half of the artwork in the Tryggr presentation post was created by me (was also member of Tryggr)(https://chroniclesofelyria.com/forum/topic/9507/eu-kingdom-of-tryggr?page=5). And Invested two weeks creating a possible representation of our capital (Regensburg) in the german County with Unity Engine ().
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  • Phobos40Phobos40 Member UncommonPosts: 13
    edited February 2018
    So thanks, trying to ridiculous me! I did a lot as ex CoE fan. 
  • NildenNilden Member EpicPosts: 3,916
    Phobos40 said:
    @Ungood No worries. To respond to your question which time I invested. I created a Website for a german county (which was also mine for a time) - firstly Grafschaft Baiern - changed the name to Grafschaft Bavarica (www.chronicles-of-elyria.de). Made the presentation Video too. Half of the artwork in the Tryggr presentation post was created by me (was also member of Tryggr)(https://chroniclesofelyria.com/forum/topic/9507/eu-kingdom-of-tryggr?page=5). And Invested two weeks creating a possible representation of our capital (Regensburg) in the german County with Unity Engine ().
    Sad thing is more work probably went into that fan made trailer than the actual game.
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  • UngoodUngood Member LegendaryPosts: 7,534
    Phobos40 said:
    So thanks, trying to ridiculous me! I did a lot as ex CoE fan. 
    Nahh man, I don't sugar coat shit, if i was trying to ridicule you.. I'd just do it.
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  • Phobos40Phobos40 Member UncommonPosts: 13
    Thanks. But I don't give a shit on your opinion.
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  • mystichazemystichaze Member UncommonPosts: 378
    Phobos40 said:
    @Ungood No worries. To respond to your question which time I invested. I created a Website for a german county (which was also mine for a time) - firstly Grafschaft Baiern - changed the name to Grafschaft Bavarica (www.chronicles-of-elyria.de). Made the presentation Video too. Half of the artwork in the Tryggr presentation post was created by me (was also member of Tryggr)(https://chroniclesofelyria.com/forum/topic/9507/eu-kingdom-of-tryggr?page=5). And Invested two weeks creating a possible representation of our capital (Regensburg) in the german County with Unity Engine ().
    It is a shame with all the time and money you have put into the community this far that you are going to give up on it. Might I suggest that you just step back and give it some time before making such a rash decision? Maybe what you are perceiving to be a huge downfall will actually turn out to be not quite as bad as you thought it would be? Perhaps future updates will prove that your concerns are not as bad as perceived at this time. Or maybe they won't but at least you would have given it a chance.

    I mean really you have nothing to lose at this point and by the looks of what you have said you are involved in a community that you enjoy spending time with. So why through that all away when you don't have all the facts yet. (I am well aware of the fact the naysayers here will disagree with me but I am used to that.)

    I had concerns as well, right up until we had our Exclusive Q&A on the first. Unfortunately, because of the NDA I can't talk about them but information acquired in that Q&A logically explained SBS's decisions and left me feeling positive about the upcoming content. 
    UngoodYashaXEloranta
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,717
    I saw the "Exclusive Q&A"
    All I can say is LOL

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  • mystichazemystichaze Member UncommonPosts: 378
    I saw the "Exclusive Q&A"
    All I can say is LOL

    So you say.
  • UngoodUngood Member LegendaryPosts: 7,534
    Phobos40 said:
    @Ungood No worries. To respond to your question which time I invested. I created a Website for a german county (which was also mine for a time) - firstly Grafschaft Baiern - changed the name to Grafschaft Bavarica (www.chronicles-of-elyria.de). Made the presentation Video too. Half of the artwork in the Tryggr presentation post was created by me (was also member of Tryggr)(https://chroniclesofelyria.com/forum/topic/9507/eu-kingdom-of-tryggr?page=5). And Invested two weeks creating a possible representation of our capital (Regensburg) in the german County with Unity Engine ().
    It is a shame with all the time and money you have put into the community this far that you are going to give up on it. Might I suggest that you just step back and give it some time before making such a rash decision? Maybe what you are perceiving to be a huge downfall will actually turn out to be not quite as bad as you thought it would be? Perhaps future updates will prove that your concerns are not as bad as perceived at this time. Or maybe they won't but at least you would have given it a chance.

    I mean really you have nothing to lose at this point and by the looks of what you have said you are involved in a community that you enjoy spending time with. So why through that all away when you don't have all the facts yet. (I am well aware of the fact the naysayers here will disagree with me but I am used to that.)

    I had concerns as well, right up until we had our Exclusive Q&A on the first. Unfortunately, because of the NDA I can't talk about them but information acquired in that Q&A logically explained SBS's decisions and left me feeling positive about the upcoming content. 
    Honestly, it's his choice.

    Sometimes things don't work out, and people decided that this was not what they want. No shame in that.

    They feel this is not the game for them. Almost wish that SBS would give them their money back TBH.
    Egotism is the anesthetic that dullens the pain of stupidity, this is why when I try to beat my head against the stupidity of other people, I only hurt myself.

  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,717
    I saw the "Exclusive Q&A"
    All I can say is LOL

    So you say.
    I think we've established my sources as rock solid.  Something few others can say. (/peers at Ivory Tower)
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  • OrangeBoyOrangeBoy Member UncommonPosts: 213
    I can only infer that whatever was said in the Q&A must not have been worthy of public release, since anything at this point would help them in their mission to attract much needed attention to the game.

    Though, that's just an inference. 
  • mystichazemystichaze Member UncommonPosts: 378
    Ungood said:
    Phobos40 said:
    @Ungood No worries. To respond to your question which time I invested. I created a Website for a german county (which was also mine for a time) - firstly Grafschaft Baiern - changed the name to Grafschaft Bavarica (www.chronicles-of-elyria.de). Made the presentation Video too. Half of the artwork in the Tryggr presentation post was created by me (was also member of Tryggr)(https://chroniclesofelyria.com/forum/topic/9507/eu-kingdom-of-tryggr?page=5). And Invested two weeks creating a possible representation of our capital (Regensburg) in the german County with Unity Engine ().
    It is a shame with all the time and money you have put into the community this far that you are going to give up on it. Might I suggest that you just step back and give it some time before making such a rash decision? Maybe what you are perceiving to be a huge downfall will actually turn out to be not quite as bad as you thought it would be? Perhaps future updates will prove that your concerns are not as bad as perceived at this time. Or maybe they won't but at least you would have given it a chance.

    I mean really you have nothing to lose at this point and by the looks of what you have said you are involved in a community that you enjoy spending time with. So why through that all away when you don't have all the facts yet. (I am well aware of the fact the naysayers here will disagree with me but I am used to that.)

    I had concerns as well, right up until we had our Exclusive Q&A on the first. Unfortunately, because of the NDA I can't talk about them but information acquired in that Q&A logically explained SBS's decisions and left me feeling positive about the upcoming content. 
    Honestly, it's his choice.

    Sometimes things don't work out, and people decided that this was not what they want. No shame in that.

    They feel this is not the game for them. Almost wish that SBS would give them their money back TBH.
    Where did I say it wasn't his choice, or that he should be ashamed? It was just a suggestion. 
  • OrangeBoyOrangeBoy Member UncommonPosts: 213
    By the way, do MMO companies usually file their corporations as an LLC? As is SBS?
  • mystichazemystichaze Member UncommonPosts: 378
    OrangeBoy said:
    I can only infer that whatever was said in the Q&A must not have been worthy of public release, since anything at this point would help them in their mission to attract much needed attention to the game.

    Though, that's just an inference. 
    This is in fact false. SBS often passes it by a smaller group and discuss things in that Q&A before releasing it to the general public. That is what the Exclusive Q&A is for. I am sure it won't be long before the information will be released to the general public, as it always is. 
    Slapshot1188UngoodEloranta
  • OrangeBoyOrangeBoy Member UncommonPosts: 213
    OrangeBoy said:
    I can only infer that whatever was said in the Q&A must not have been worthy of public release, since anything at this point would help them in their mission to attract much needed attention to the game.

    Though, that's just an inference. 
    This is in fact false. SBS often passes it by a smaller group and discuss things in that Q&A before releasing it to the general public. That is what the Exclusive Q&A is for. I am sure it won't be long before the information will be released to the general public, as it always is. 
    So you mean to tell me that the minimal information released after all these years was for some reason discussed as exclusive content for the high-backers before it was released publicly with usually underwhelming responses?

    Money well spent
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,717
    OrangeBoy said:
    I can only infer that whatever was said in the Q&A must not have been worthy of public release, since anything at this point would help them in their mission to attract much needed attention to the game.

    Though, that's just an inference. 
    This is in fact false. SBS often passes it by a smaller group and discuss things in that Q&A before releasing it to the general public. That is what the Exclusive Q&A is for. I am sure it won't be long before the information will be released to the general public, as it always is. 
    Nothing the Ivory Tower has been told is all that special.
    You may feel that way and I guess that's the purpose... but that Q&A was pretty much LOL

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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,717
    OrangeBoy said:
    OrangeBoy said:
    I can only infer that whatever was said in the Q&A must not have been worthy of public release, since anything at this point would help them in their mission to attract much needed attention to the game.

    Though, that's just an inference. 
    This is in fact false. SBS often passes it by a smaller group and discuss things in that Q&A before releasing it to the general public. That is what the Exclusive Q&A is for. I am sure it won't be long before the information will be released to the general public, as it always is. 
    So you mean to tell me that the minimal information released after all these years was for some reason discussed as exclusive content for the high-backers before it was released publicly with usually underwhelming responses?

    Money well spent
    There 3 forums.
    The general forum.
    The forum for those who spend around $125 I think
    The forum for those who spent $1,000 (but now it's IP/EP based and caused a mini riot when they gave access to all those new people due to the token sales...)
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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,717
    Are you butthurt hard-ons still slagging on Chronicles of Elyria?  Why don't you just let things play out and if the game fails then you can drone on about how right you were.  That's the entire point of your emotional investment anyway, right?  So why not just skip all this ep33n bullshit speculation and wait for the dust to settle? 

    You are such a sad group of douchebags.  There's no point to your relentless crusade other than stroking your own fragile egos.  Therapists build careers off you types.  Hopefully, some of you find good ones to talk to about this weird obsession you have with sinking an independent video game.
    How do you really feel?


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  • mystichazemystichaze Member UncommonPosts: 378
    edited February 2018
    OrangeBoy said:
    I can only infer that whatever was said in the Q&A must not have been worthy of public release, since anything at this point would help them in their mission to attract much needed attention to the game.

    Though, that's just an inference. 
    This is in fact false. SBS often passes it by a smaller group and discuss things in that Q&A before releasing it to the general public. That is what the Exclusive Q&A is for. I am sure it won't be long before the information will be released to the general public, as it always is. 
    Nothing the Ivory Tower has been told is all that special.
    You may feel that way and I guess that's the purpose... but that Q&A was pretty much LOL
    As I said, so you say. Frankly, I don't believe anyone in that group would be stupid enough to share the information with you.. *Shrugs* But who knows. 
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  • OrangeBoyOrangeBoy Member UncommonPosts: 213
    Are you butthurt hard-ons still slagging on Chronicles of Elyria?  Why don't you just let things play out and if the game fails then you can drone on about how right you were.  That's the entire point of your emotional investment anyway, right?  So why not just skip all this ep33n bullshit speculation and wait for the dust to settle? 

    You are such a sad group of douchebags.  There's no point to your relentless crusade other than stroking your own fragile egos.  Therapists build careers off you types.  Hopefully, some of you find good ones to talk to about this weird obsession you have with sinking an independent video game.
    I know your type, the type to write their Ph.D. thesis on a thread in order to feel like you're educated.
    Slapshot1188JamesGoblinYashaX
  • mystichazemystichaze Member UncommonPosts: 378
    OrangeBoy said:
    OrangeBoy said:
    I can only infer that whatever was said in the Q&A must not have been worthy of public release, since anything at this point would help them in their mission to attract much needed attention to the game.

    Though, that's just an inference. 
    This is in fact false. SBS often passes it by a smaller group and discuss things in that Q&A before releasing it to the general public. That is what the Exclusive Q&A is for. I am sure it won't be long before the information will be released to the general public, as it always is. 
    So you mean to tell me that the minimal information released after all these years was for some reason discussed as exclusive content for the high-backers before it was released publicly with usually underwhelming responses?

    Money well spent
    I won't bother to try to explain it to you because, well you know, you will just twist it around anyways. It apparently isn't a problem for those involved and they seem to understand the reasoning behind it. 
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,717
    OrangeBoy said:
    Are you butthurt hard-ons still slagging on Chronicles of Elyria?  Why don't you just let things play out and if the game fails then you can drone on about how right you were.  That's the entire point of your emotional investment anyway, right?  So why not just skip all this ep33n bullshit speculation and wait for the dust to settle? 

    You are such a sad group of douchebags.  There's no point to your relentless crusade other than stroking your own fragile egos.  Therapists build careers off you types.  Hopefully, some of you find good ones to talk to about this weird obsession you have with sinking an independent video game.
    I know your type, the type to write their Ph.D. thesis on a thread in order to feel like you're educated.
    Personally I'm just still waiting for him to list all the "positives" he claimed we were ignoring...
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  • OrangeBoyOrangeBoy Member UncommonPosts: 213
    OrangeBoy said:
    Are you butthurt hard-ons still slagging on Chronicles of Elyria?  Why don't you just let things play out and if the game fails then you can drone on about how right you were.  That's the entire point of your emotional investment anyway, right?  So why not just skip all this ep33n bullshit speculation and wait for the dust to settle? 

    You are such a sad group of douchebags.  There's no point to your relentless crusade other than stroking your own fragile egos.  Therapists build careers off you types.  Hopefully, some of you find good ones to talk to about this weird obsession you have with sinking an independent video game.
    I know your type, the type to write their Ph.D. thesis on a thread in order to feel like you're educated.
    Personally I'm just still waiting for him to list all the "positives" he claimed we were ignoring...
    Honestly, the way he comes at the thread makes me think he has a crush on someone. 

    Although, I actually kind of had a laugh at the "sad group of douchebags" part. Just felt funny to me, it made me feel like I've been doing something to him his entire life
    Slapshot1188KyleranYashaXEloranta
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