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I dont care what SOE/LA says, this game is done despite your threats of a lawsuit

admriker444admriker444 Member Posts: 1,526

I know what my source said. He stands by it. Bioware is taking over. We both feel these denials by Smedley and Torres are just smoke screens to keep the players paying till the very end.

Perhaps SOE will continue on in some capacity as to justify their deniability...ie they make the cd's or ship them, etc but they definitely will no longer have squat to do with development

And someone else with inside sources who shall remain nameless agrees with me. However he cant publicly comment to confirm my source's accuracy because SOE has threatened him with a lawsuit

Mr. Blank,

It has recently come to the attention of our legal department that on
several online forums, and other public messaging systems you have
posted under the username (Blank).

While the majority of your writings are pure fiction you have claimed
in several postings to have an inside source at Sony's Online
Entertainment division. We are aware this is indeed false and by claiming such
you have violated the Electronic Data Transaction Act (HR1811) signed by
President George W. Bush in 2003.

Therefore; we now issue a cease and desist letter of our legal intent.
You will receive this via e-mail and a certified postal package as
well. Furthermore, we insist you retract all statements and make clear your
writings were fiction and you had no source working under any division
of Sony.

If you have not rectified this situation within 7 days we will be
forced to take further legal action.

Regards,
Shawn J. Anslinger
Sony Legal Department

 

Basically, this person had access to some documents that showed what Ive already stated. He went on to state in his email to me...

I applaud your efforts to get the information out. What you recently posted is not far off from what I posted in late december. When I leaked SWG 1.5 design documents. That a multiparty group were working on. Anyway things went south afterwards. SOE tried to sue me. Well at least threatened anyway

Personally I think your source is highly credible since he or she is so close to what I was told back then, and any differences might be just plan changes. Hell from what I understood the new swg game wouldnt be set and final by next christmas season

He goes on to say...

They called my house emailed me and even threatened registered mail. So there is most definately something to all of this.

I appreciate the email Mr. Blank and the vote of confidence. I dont feel so alone now.

 


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  • feldrinfeldrin Member UncommonPosts: 210

    If you are serious with this, all I can say is wow. If you are making this stuff up you are much better than Spillberg or Steven King.

    I have said before I don't really know if any of this is true but I'm sure that 90% of what is coming from SOE is not true.

    I don't claim to be right, I'm just posting.

  • admriker444admriker444 Member Posts: 1,526

    I find it remarkable that folks at the GDC are even discussing this "rumor"

    http://www.grimwell.com/?action=fullnews&id=299

  • ClackamasClackamas Member Posts: 776


    I think the leak is Smedley's administrative assistant. They had an afair laster year in which he promised to leave his wife and family, but broke that promise. This is her getting revenge.

  • feldrinfeldrin Member UncommonPosts: 210
    I have already stated several time that I'm really skeptical about this but one thing keeps coming back to me. Bioware only says they are not going to comment on any rumors. Now I know that even rumors will get their company a lot of free press. But still wouldn't it be better to say some thing like "we are not currently working on anything with Lucas Arts or anything having to do with a Star Wars MMO, however we will not rule this out for the future." It would still leave the door open for the future but it would focus attention on what they are working on. After all there are a couple hundred thousand former galaxies players looking for something else to play.

    I don't claim to be right, I'm just posting.

  • SendenSenden Member UncommonPosts: 602
    Okay with all these "creditable" sources and i acknowledge that I wasn't around for the NGE (i quit after CU) BUT... if so many of these so called sources are about, how come the NGE wasn't mentioned before the official release? Now i could be wrong  and that it was rumoured but I never heard anything regarding it until the official announcement.
  • ClackamasClackamas Member Posts: 776

    There were some rumors about a big change coming down the pipeline just before the NGE hit. A lot of them thought it was an expansion pack.... Noone appearently thought it was a contraction pack instead.

  • OuchmuchOuchmuch Member Posts: 340
    actualy there had been a post or some posts from some one that tried to warn everyone about the nge he/she had a lot of info that turned out to be dead on in the end but when he/she first posted he/she was flamed, called a liar, and the post was declared false by soe employies.
  • admriker444admriker444 Member Posts: 1,526




    Originally posted by Senden
    Okay with all these "creditable" sources and i acknowledge that I wasn't around for the NGE (i quit after CU) BUT... if so many of these so called sources are about, how come the NGE wasn't mentioned before the official release? Now i could be wrong  and that it was rumoured but I never heard anything regarding it until the official announcement.

    It was posted all over the place prior to the NGE "official" announcement.

    1st thing to happen was people were finding the starter kit on web sites for sale and started asking what the heck was this. SOE denied the product and claimed it was a misprint and would be removed.

    Second, a person with insider knowledge posted just about everything to happen with the NGE was coming. Of course he was dead right on most of the details.

    He predicted all the melee classes would be gone. Everyone laughed at him. He predicted jedi would be a starter profession. Jedi players screamed bloody murder at him.

     

  • LilTLilT Member Posts: 631


    Originally posted by Clackamas
    There were some rumors about a big change coming down the pipeline just before the NGE hit. A lot of them thought it was an expansion pack.... Noone appearently thought it was a contriction pack instead.


    I quit after the cu as well, but kept an eye on the forums, and there was infact a poster who said his "source" told him that the professions would be trimmed down, jedi would be a starter, and a whole bunch of other stuff that eventually came true with the nge. That was about a week i think before the nge was announced. Ofc all of this was denied by red names. Thats why i dont believe ANYTHING said by an soe employee (smedly's posts included). I fully expect to see something come out of all these rumors, whether swg goes to bioware or smed is fired, something is up.

    For the Horde!

  • SpathotanSpathotan Member Posts: 3,928


    Originally posted by admriker444
    To much stuff to quote

    While I dont 100% believe you man, I will give you the benifit of the doubt. In other words I believe you about 80% and dont 20%. I defended Smed earlier in a thread I made but this is just to much for you to make up.

    "There's no star system Slave I can't reach, and there's no planet I can't find. There's nowhere in the Galaxy for you to run. Might as well give up now."
    — Boba Fett

  • GronksterGronkster Member Posts: 14



    Originally posted by admriker444

    I know what my source said. He stands by it. Bioware is taking over. We both feel these denials by Smedley and Torres are just smoke screens to keep the players paying till the very end.





    And I can assure you it's all a lie.  Your friend doesn't know what he's talking about but i suppose you're going to have to wait about 6 months for Bioware to release information on what the MMORPG is about.

     

     

  • TealaTeala Member RarePosts: 7,627



    Originally posted by Gronkster



    Originally posted by admriker444

    I know what my source said. He stands by it. Bioware is taking over. We both feel these denials by Smedley and Torres are just smoke screens to keep the players paying till the very end.




    And I can assure you it's all a lie.  Your friend doesn't know what he's talking about but i suppose you're going to have to wait about 6 months for Bioware to release information on what the MMORPG is about.

     

     



    I'm with Gronkster on this.  I call BS.  
  • anarchyartanarchyart Member Posts: 5,378



    Originally posted by Teala



    Originally posted by Gronkster



    Originally posted by admriker444

    I know what my source said. He stands by it. Bioware is taking over. We both feel these denials by Smedley and Torres are just smoke screens to keep the players paying till the very end.




    And I can assure you it's all a lie.  Your friend doesn't know what he's talking about but i suppose you're going to have to wait about 6 months for Bioware to release information on what the MMORPG is about.

     

     



    I'm with Gronkster on this.  I call BS.  


    There is a chance that Smeds statement was a smokescreen. We all know that in the past they have lied. There is also a chance that he is being truthful and that SOE and LA are in bed still and happy as clams.

    Teala said before the Smed statement dropped that this was all still rumor though, and she was exactly right. I'm going to have to side with her this time, basically because she's really really hot, but also because we just don't know yet.image

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  • admriker444admriker444 Member Posts: 1,526

    Check this out, gamespot's inside sources are repeating what Ive stated.....

    http://www.gamespot.com/news/show_blog_entry.php?topic_id=24466266

    What we heard: Of all the Star Wars games, Galaxies has been the most controversial. After releasing it to mixed reviews in 2003, Sony Online Entertainment was criticized for completely overhauling the massively multiplayer online role-playing game's combat system in Spring 2005. The publisher drew even more criticism last November when it implemented a series of allegedly buggy new game enhancements that eliminated several character classes.

    Given Galaxies' bumpy ride, and the fact that many game contracts expire after three years, it is not inconceivable that LucasArts, holder of all Star Wars rights, might want to shop around the license. According to informed sources in the industry, that's exactly what the company is doing. Two shops have been mentioned as talking with LucasArts--Cryptic Studios, home to MMORPG City of Heroes, and Canada-based BioWare, maker of the action RPG Jade Empire.

    Of the two, BioWare appears the more likely candidate. Besides the fact it developed the critically acclaimed and wildly popular Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic, the developer just founded a new studio in Austin, Texas--home of SOE's Austin branch--which employs several ex-SOE staffers. The shop's sole project is an unidentified MMORPG set in a science fiction universe, just as Star Wars: Galaxies is.

    What's the official line on all this? "The SWG license stuff is completely untrue," was a SOE spokesperson's terse response. "LucasArts and SOE have no plans to 'sunset' Star Wars Galaxies," said a LucasArts rep, referring to the practice of gradually phasing out a game. "It's had its fair share of hurdles, but it has also had its share of successes in its own right, so we aren't interested in abandoning it and focusing on the future."

    However, what the LucasArts rep said next raised another interesting possibility--that another Star Wars MMORPG could be in the works. "We have had several developers approach us expressing interest in developing a future Star Wars online game," said the rep. (emphasis in the original.) However, if any such game is in the works, it will be a long time until it surfaces. "As of right now, it hasn't gone anything beyond that (that is, no conversations, no serious talks, no pitches, etc.)," assured the rep.

    Despite the official denials, there is still much talk of all not being well at SOE Austin. Though potentially biased, acontact within another studio claims to have been peppered with resumes from SOE developers. The source claims that "over half of the [SOE Austin] coders and artists are scrambling for the lifeboats" because "they all seem to know they will be losing SWG." The studio has already seen one major departure--chief creative officer Raph Koster left this week "to pursue development interests outside of the company."

    So we now have ANOTHER site stating what I already have. Gamespot with probably several inside contacts in the industry reports....

    1. LA is shopping SWG license around

    2. SOE employees are fleeing in droves.

    We definitely know soe employees are running, Vogel, Koster and at least 3 other major people have left already. Why are they jumping ship ? Well it seems obvious to me.

    How many more reputable sites with their industry contacts must you all hear from before my "rumor" seems plausible ?

     

  • ShaydeShayde Member Posts: 4,529


    Originally posted by Senden
    Okay with all these "creditable" sources and i acknowledge that I wasn't around for the NGE (i quit after CU) BUT... if so many of these so called sources are about, how come the NGE wasn't mentioned before the official release? Now i could be wrong and that it was rumoured but I never heard anything regarding it until the official announcement.

    Then you had your head in the sand.

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  • MeFartsSmellMeFartsSmell Member Posts: 225

    The good news is that if they do sue you, you are already poor so all they can get out of you is your copy of SWG back.

    But on a different note, I would like BioWare to take over and redo the game, but LA would have to give up a lot in order for that to happen because BioWare wont go through all the crap they went through doing KOTOR every again. These guys are a very successful game maker and they don't need StarWars or LA. There would had to have been major concessions on Lucas Arts part to get BioWare, and I would be surprised if LA would do that. But there is always hope. image

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  • MeFartsSmellMeFartsSmell Member Posts: 225
    Is Tela hot, I didnt know this, hey I am 467 pounds of pure man meat, interested....... image

    Whannnnn Whannnnn dat is the sound of 20 year old babies

  • HyborianHeroHyborianHero Member Posts: 33

    Well true or not it is probally the only thing short of a miracle that would salvage the game. It's simply terrible. And you know something I hold the gaming industry partially accountable. They should be reporting everyday on bugs that haven't been fixed in years.

    They should make it clear that what Sony is doing is wrong. Period. And that they do not condone such behavior by a company in the  MMORPG industry.

    Regardless, I hope it is true. I really do.

  • ObraikObraik Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,261

    Admriker, get a grip.  It's been stated by both SOE AND LA Officials that the game is not shutting down anytime soon nor is it being handed to another studio.  What more needs to be done?  Someone to fly a plane over your city with the message as a banner?  Have it as a international announcement on TV?

    For reference, here is LA's statement http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Announcements&message.id=3058

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  • ObraikObraik Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,261

    bah

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  • ClackamasClackamas Member Posts: 776

    [quote]Originally posted by Obraik
    [b]Admriker, get a grip. It's been stated by both SOE AND LA Officials that the game is not shutting down anytime soon nor is it being handed to another studio. What more needs to be done? Someone to fly a plane over your city with the message as a banner? Have it as a international announcement on TV?
    For reference, here is LA's statement [url=http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Announcements&message.id=3058][/b][/quote]

    Hmmmm.... Obraik, I know you are trying to honestly support the Star Wars IP.... but I bet I can post more iinstances of SOE/LA and John Smedley misleadning everone that the above link is meaningless....

  • ObraikObraik Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,261



    Originally posted by Clackamas

    [quote]Originally posted by Obraik
    [b]Admriker, get a grip. It's been stated by both SOE AND LA Officials that the game is not shutting down anytime soon nor is it being handed to another studio. What more needs to be done? Someone to fly a plane over your city with the message as a banner? Have it as a international announcement on TV?
    For reference, here is LA's statement [url=http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Announcements&message.id=3058][/b][/quote]
    Hmmmm.... Obraik, I know you are trying to honestly support the Star Wars IP.... but I bet I can post more iinstances of SOE/LA and John Smedley misleadning everone that the above link is meaningless....



    The fact that they're threatning to sue because it's a false rumour is a giant flashing neon sign saying the rumours are false

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  • ClackamasClackamas Member Posts: 776

    [quote]Originally posted by Obraik
    [b]

    Originally posted by Clackamas
    [quote]Originally posted by Obraik[b]Admriker, get a grip. It's been stated by both SOE AND LA Officials that the game is not shutting down anytime soon nor is it being handed to another studio. What more needs to be done? Someone to fly a plane over your city with the message as a banner? Have it as a international announcement on TV?For reference, here is LA's statement [url=http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Announcements&message.id=3058][/b][/quote]
    Hmmmm.... Obraik, I know you are trying to honestly support the Star Wars IP.... but I bet I can post more iinstances of SOE/LA and John Smedley misleadning everone that the above link is meaningless....

    The fact that they're threatning to sue because it's a false rumour is a giant flashing neon sign saying the rumours are false[/b][/quote]

    In the US, right and wrong have nothing to do with suing. If I have more money than you, and I don't like your legal or quasi-legal activies, I will sue you assuming that you don't have enough money nor the intelligence to find an organization that will defend you.

    So, the fact that SOE is threatening suing means nothing.

  • ObraikObraik Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,261



    Originally posted by Clackamas

    [quote]Originally posted by Obraik
    [b]
    Originally posted by Clackamas
    [quote]Originally posted by Obraik[b]Admriker, get a grip. It's been stated by both SOE AND LA Officials that the game is not shutting down anytime soon nor is it being handed to another studio. What more needs to be done? Someone to fly a plane over your city with the message as a banner? Have it as a international announcement on TV?For reference, here is LA's statement [url=http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Announcements&message.id=3058][/b][/quote]
    Hmmmm.... Obraik, I know you are trying to honestly support the Star Wars IP.... but I bet I can post more iinstances of SOE/LA and John Smedley misleadning everone that the above link is meaningless....
    The fact that they're threatning to sue because it's a false rumour is a giant flashing neon sign saying the rumours are false[/b][/quote]
    In the US, right and wrong have nothing to do with suing. If I have more money than you, and I don't like your legal or quasi-legal activies, I will sue you assuming that you don't have enough money nor the intelligence to find an organization that will defend you.
    So, the fact that SOE is threatening suing means nothing.



    Despite American's crazy suing habits, I don't think that's something a company would be doing if it's trying to protect its image image

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  • KarkasKarkas Member Posts: 9

    Well, I definitely dont think LucasArts will have two seperate Star Wars MMORPGs out in the market competing with each other.

     

    LFL and LA are notorious about keeping a license with a company and not shopping around for buyers.

    -ashe-

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