It didn't take players very long to ding 50 with their villains and move back into the older CoH game. Which I find amusing since CoH didn't have much of a content upgrade for almost 10 months.
The new issue is the fact that server populations are slowly shrinking to the point where spliting the population into two with CoV and have 11 servers to spread people out is starting to hurt the game. Is it a ghost town? Certainly not during "primetime" hours. However, off peak hours are getting pretty empty.
The Devs in the forums are in "Ivory Tower" mode because of the CoV "end game" LRSF balance. Even the rabid fanboys are complaing about that. NC Soft felt that it would be better to move their Ace Community Rep from Coh/v to Tabula Rasa.
Since Coh/v is the only real Superhero game, so I want it to do well and Grow. Sadly, they spent all their resources on PvP which was probably a bad investment.
Originally posted by newchemicals The new issue is the fact that server populations are slowly shrinking to the point where spliting the population into two with CoV and have 11 servers to spread people out is starting to hurt the game. Is it a ghost town? Certainly not during "primetime" hours. However, off peak hours are getting pretty empty.
I have to disagree with this. Even at primetime, servers other than Freedom and Virtue can be a ghost-town depending on the zone and even the zones with people(usually Atlas, Hollows, Steel, Talos) are NOT that heavily populated. Last night on Justice from around 7pm-10pm was the most people I've seen in PI for a while(but lets not get crazy since I didn't see more than 20 total). Lower levels, Kings Row, Galaxy and Skyway are sooo much more empty than when I first played this game.
Originally posted by tute Originally posted by newchemicals The new issue is the fact that server populations are slowly shrinking to the point where spliting the population into two with CoV and have 11 servers to spread people out is starting to hurt the game. Is it a ghost town? Certainly not during "primetime" hours. However, off peak hours are getting pretty empty.
I have to disagree with this. Even at primetime, servers other than Freedom and Virtue can be a ghost-town depending on the zone and even the zones with people(usually Atlas, Hollows, Steel, Talos) are NOT that heavily populated. Last night on Justice from around 7pm-10pm was the most people I've seen in PI for a while(but lets not get crazy since I didn't see more than 20 total). Lower levels, Kings Row, Galaxy and Skyway are sooo much more empty than when I first played this game.
With the addtions of Thugs, Elec Brutes, Dark Stalkers and mayhem missions, alot of the pop is on COV right now...Mercy was pretty crowded last night. I saw alot of folks in Talos as well, but that was on Virtue, which is always busy.
And while you're at it, please tell me of a game where they don't attempt to keep their player base.
Every game company tries to do this. Good ones do it with "carrots" (content) rather than "sticks" (nerfs).
Cryptic is not a good one.
Guild Wars? Guils Wars? That is the best you could come up with? We are argueing about mindless button mashing, and you bring up guild wars? Dude...time to pass the crackpipe.
Please show me where the missions like Mayhem missions in COV are in GW?
Please show me where the quality stories are in GW?
If you wish to whine about depth of game, maybe you should pick a better contender than freaking GW
Originally posted by grinreaper Originally posted by Serling
Please, tell me a game that isn't a grind.
Guild Wars.
And while you're at it, please tell me of a game where they don't attempt to keep their player base.
Every game company tries to do this. Good ones do it with "carrots" (content) rather than "sticks" (nerfs).
Cryptic is not a good one.
Guild Wars? Guils Wars? That is the best you could come up with? We are argueing about mindless button mashing, and you bring up guild wars? Dude...time to pass the crackpipe.
Please show me where the missions like Mayhem missions in COV are in GW?
Please show me where the quality stories are in GW?
If you wish to whine about depth of game, maybe you should pick a better contender than freaking GW
It's not even worth arguing with this idiot. He can LOL all he wants. The guy has zero credibility. Guild Wars... Sheesh ....
At least he didn't choose Runescape. Although, ya never know ... maybe he plays....
**cue Serling calling me a fanboi because he has nothing else original to offer**
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Originally posted by tute Originally posted by newchemicals The new issue is the fact that server populations are slowly shrinking to the point where spliting the population into two with CoV and have 11 servers to spread people out is starting to hurt the game. Is it a ghost town? Certainly not during "primetime" hours. However, off peak hours are getting pretty empty.
I have to disagree with this. Even at primetime, servers other than Freedom and Virtue can be a ghost-town depending on the zone and even the zones with people(usually Atlas, Hollows, Steel, Talos) are NOT that heavily populated. Last night on Justice from around 7pm-10pm was the most people I've seen in PI for a while(but lets not get crazy since I didn't see more than 20 total). Lower levels, Kings Row, Galaxy and Skyway are sooo much more empty than when I first played this game.
Originally posted by newchemicals The new issue is the fact that server populations are slowly shrinking to the point where spliting the population into two with CoV and have 11 servers to spread people out is starting to hurt the game. Is it a ghost town? Certainly not during "primetime" hours. However, off peak hours are getting pretty empty.
I have to disagree with this. Even at primetime, servers other than Freedom and Virtue can be a ghost-town depending on the zone and even the zones with people(usually Atlas, Hollows, Steel, Talos) are NOT that heavily populated. Last night on Justice from around 7pm-10pm was the most people I've seen in PI for a while(but lets not get crazy since I didn't see more than 20 total). Lower levels, Kings Row, Galaxy and Skyway are sooo much more empty than when I first played this game.
Well, primetime on the hero side I usually see about 600-700 heroes on various servers. That's certainly a lot lower than the 1700+ I was seeing back in the "good ole days" but I did see that many during 2x XP weekend. 600 is not a ghost town but it compares well to 120 online at 2am for example. Now that's a ghost town. Your preaching to the choir here, in the sense I agree that the devs need to get on the ball and get these servers filled! 600 isn't a Ghost Town, but its certainly not healthy.
Guild Wars? Guils Wars? That is the best you could come up with? We are argueing about mindless button mashing, and you bring up guild wars? Dude...time to pass the crackpipe.
The original question was "name a GAME that ISN'T a grind."
I did. You "idiots" can't accept the answer.
That's your problem, not mine.
Go take another bong-hit, dude. You need to chill.
Guild Wars? Guils Wars? That is the best you could come up with? We are argueing about mindless button mashing, and you bring up guild wars? Dude...time to pass the crackpipe.
The original question was "name a GAME that ISN'T a grind."
I did. You "idiots" can't accept the answer.
That's your problem, not mine.
Go take another bong-hit, dude. You need to chill.
no, you didnt...you named a game with a huge grind...and a way to skip the grind and go to the endgame.
The grind in COH is not as bad as some say IMO. When I first started I thought the grind was bad, but the better I got at the game the less difficult it seemed and the quicker the lvls came. I have a 50 that took 3 months. After I came back when villains came out I formed my guilds branch of COH and we are a close bunch that lvls together. I started my Dark regen a little over a month ago and he's 35 now, I also have a couple of 20's I'm working on, occasionally to fill gaps in groups.
Its all in the community and finding people you can work with to get things done with minimum debt. We play on invinc. so take that into account but my best friend and I run the SG for my guild that plays basically all the MMO's out there and some FPS's and we have a couple other friends we lvl with in my city, but other than that its all guild mates that are in other cities that I've never met in person. We have 5 or 6 of us that run missions for 2 to 3 hours during the week and a good portion of sat. and sun. but thats when my guild does events and the like. So with these 5 or 6 people we recruit a second tank and defender and off we go.
When you are close to the people you play with and enjoy their company I can honestly say I enjoy the game and it hardly feels like a grind, someone will say O I have this mission thats been giving me trouble and off we go gaining a lvl a night many times and on weekends much more. We do have deaths but since we play on invlinc a few groups of mobs and its gone and since you can side kick the lower lvls if one of our friends get behind we just sk them til they catch up.
I would say there are less people now then when I first a few months after launch, but when you lvl with your guildmates mostly its not that big of a issue. I would say the game is still alive and doing well, its not WOW numbers wise but nothing is. The big plus I've noticed that even when its just me and my best friend forming a group we can have a complete team together and in a mission in 15 mins or so which compared to a game like FFXI(one of the games I played before COH) isn't bad at all.
There are changes that have been made over the time the game has been up that I disagree with, tankers have become the hardest class to find since COV came out since Brutes tend to be more fun to play and tankers such as the fire have had some heavy nerfs from what I understand(never played one myself).
PVP is alot of fun, but since the COH vs. COV is still fairly new there are some imbalances though I guess any mmo will have that to some degree. One last note if you hate those that bot and the companies that gold farm or the inflated economies of games like guild wars then COX will especially will appeal to you.
Originally posted by jdun1 Originally posted by grinreaper Originally posted by Serling
Guild Wars? Guils Wars? That is the best you could come up with? We are argueing about mindless button mashing, and you bring up guild wars? Dude...time to pass the crackpipe.
The original question was "name a GAME that ISN'T a grind."
I did. You "idiots" can't accept the answer.
That's your problem, not mine.
Go take another bong-hit, dude. You need to chill.
no, you didnt...you named a game with a huge grind...and a way to skip the grind and go to the endgame.
Your comments is a paradox. It doesn't make sense. You are trying to win a debate by doing it in a paradoxical way. GW allows you to skip the grind. It allows you to make 20 out of the gate.
CoH grind is in par or worst with most Korean MMOGs. Like I said before I got to 60 in WoW twice as fast as I did to 50 in CoX.
Your comments is a paradox. It doesn't make sense. You are trying to win a debate by doing it in a paradoxical way. GW allows you to skip the grind. It allows you to make 20 out of the gate.
CoH grind is in par or worst with most Korean MMOGs. Like I said before I got to 60 in WoW twice as fast as I did to 50 in CoX.
So if you could make a 50 out of the box in in CoH, you would say coh has no grind?
Also, you are either a WoW prodigy or you suck at CoH...you can lvl at about the same speed in these games. But, for the sake of argument, lets say that is true...go over to the wow boards and ask them if the trip to 60 was twice as long, would they consider it a grind...
So if you could make a 50 out of the box in in CoH, you would say coh has no grind?
Also, you are either a WoW prodigy or you suck at CoH...you can lvl at about the same speed in these games. But, for the sake of argument, lets say that is true...go over to the wow boards and ask them if the trip to 60 was twice as long, would they consider it a grind...
no, you didnt...you named a game with a huge grind...and a way to skip the grind and go to the endgame.
Lol!!! So if there's a "huge grind" (fact: there is none at all) but you could "skip it" and go straight to the end game, how can there possibly be any grind at all?!?!?
You've obviously never played GW, and yet you're going to make wholly unfounded, asinine, and self-contradictory assertions like that???
Of course, none of this changes the FACT that despite alll the alleged "new content" with CoV and I7, the game has just about as many players as when it was released. And because the player population at release was only spread among 11 total servers and not 15, there were more players playing at any given time on each of those servers.
The impression most people have that most servers and zones feel like ghost towns is completely born out by the numbers.
But enjoy your nerf-infested grind-fest while it lasts. The game won't die with a bang, the way Auto Assault did, but with a whimper. However there's no question rabid, foam-at-the-mouth fanboys like grinreaper and Motohead will continue to think everything is just perfect until NCSoft pulls the last plug on the last server.
Originally posted by Serling Of course, none of this changes the FACT that despite alll the alleged "new content" with CoV and I7, the game has just about as many players as when it was released. And because the player population at release was only spread among 11 total servers and not 15, there were more players playing at any given time on each of those servers. The impression most people have that most servers and zones feel like ghost towns is completely born out by the numbers. But enjoy your nerf-infested grind-fest while it lasts. The game won't die with a bang, the way Auto Assault did, but with a whimper. However there's no question rabid, foam-at-the-mouth fanboys like grinreaper and Motohead will continue to think everything is just perfect until NCSoft pulls the last plug on the last server.
Ding!! I knew you'd have to play the fanboy card.
Maybe once you actually start playing an MMO, you opinion might matter. But for now, your opinion means nothing.
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Originally posted by Serling Of course, none of this changes the FACT that despite alll the alleged "new content" with CoV and I7, the game has just about as many players as when it was released. And because the player population at release was only spread among 11 total servers and not 15, there were more players playing at any given time on each of those servers. The impression most people have that most servers and zones feel like ghost towns is completely born out by the numbers. But enjoy your nerf-infested grind-fest while it lasts. The game won't die with a bang, the way Auto Assault did, but with a whimper. However there's no question rabid, foam-at-the-mouth fanboys like grinreaper and Motohead will continue to think everything is just perfect until NCSoft pulls the last plug on the last server.
Thanks Serling, calling me a fanboi makes me feel like part of the community now...
2 questions:
1. So, on the one hand CoH has the same # of players as it did at release, but the game is dieing? I guess I am dumb, cos that makes no sense...it like having the pizzia guy only cut your pie into 4 pieces cuz you dont think you can eat 8 pieces...WTF?
2. Dont you think it is a bit early to start claiming population effects for I7? Lets see what the next NCSoft report brings...I expect concurrent users will be way up.
Since NCSoft gets like 7% of its income from CoH, I dont expect them to pull the plug any time soon...but you hold onto that dream, man. Hold on and dont ever let go!!!
I'm sorry if you don't enjoy the game Serling but why do you set out to convince anyone who might play that the game is dying in the post if thats the case. I've been there as a game dies cough "swg" cough, and this game is doing fine. I've never understood why people like you are paying for the game, you do mention I7, if you don't like it and if you're not paying for it you really wouldn't know how the game is doing atm. Its a niche game for a specific market which the loyal fanbase obviously is. My SG is very active, teaming is quick and easy. I don't see the signs of this slow death. If you're on one of the servers with less traffic move over to Freedom or Virtue. Comparing the numbers this game has to EVE online and this game looks like it flooded with users, but noone says that EVE is dying because it isn't, its just a niche game just as COH is. Honestly oustside of WOW I really don't see any of the current MMO's pulling those huge numbers, each game has its loyal following but the numbers on most don't seem to eclipse 200k imo. Since GW isn't a MMO and doesn't charge a fee I don't consider it, but look at all the other MMO's, each has a small part of the pie so to speak outside of WOW.
Originally posted by baff That same number of players are now spread over 50% more servers and twice the number of zones per server. In any one zone you are statistically likely to see only 1/3 of the population you would have encountered during the games first month. Further to this, off peak hours the game is a ghost town. Outside of primetime you will be lucky to find a decent 8 man team. With no expansion in sight expect this to get worse fast. . I concur this isn't going to be switched off any time soon. Server merges wouldn't go amiss though.
I would say they will wait and see on the new COH/COV pak before we get merges.
I guess I dont see alot of the low pop issues since I mostly play on Virtue...where if I want to solo, I disable invites cuz I get so many.
I concur. Im on Guardian and all I ever get is invites 24/7. When Im going thru a zone on Guardian I think the only mission I have a hard time getting a 8 team on is that gate mish in hollows and thats only like a .. 20 min period to find a group. Generally speaking guardian is being flooded with new players though.
Originally posted by treysmooth I'm sorry if you don't enjoy the game Serling but why do you set out to convince anyone who might play that the game is dying in the post if thats the case. I've been there as a game dies cough "swg" cough, and this game is doing fine. I've never understood why people like you are paying for the game, you do mention I7, if you don't like it and if you're not paying for it you really wouldn't know how the game is doing atm. Its a niche game for a specific market which the loyal fanbase obviously is. My SG is very active, teaming is quick and easy. I don't see the signs of this slow death. If you're on one of the servers with less traffic move over to Freedom or Virtue. Comparing the numbers this game has to EVE online and this game looks like it flooded with users, but noone says that EVE is dying because it isn't, its just a niche game just as COH is. Honestly oustside of WOW I really don't see any of the current MMO's pulling those huge numbers, each game has its loyal following but the numbers on most don't seem to eclipse 200k imo. Since GW isn't a MMO and doesn't charge a fee I don't consider it, but look at all the other MMO's, each has a small part of the pie so to speak outside of WOW.
Just my opionion
Best guess Serling was once a huge fan of COH and then a nerf came and made his favorite toon "useless", and since he can no longer play the game he thinks he should be able to play in the way he wants to play he doesn't think anyone else should play the game since they will just invest time into a charecter to have it become "useless". He is making it his mission that one one else will be dissapointed by the game that dissapointed him.
Off course I could be completly off base with this .
DOAC is still the MMO I judge other games by, My first and still my favorite.
Originally posted by Techleo I concur. Im on Guardian and all I ever get is invites 24/7. When Im going thru a zone on Guardian I think the only mission I have a hard time getting a 8 team on is that gate mish in hollows and thats only like a .. 20 min period to find a group. Generally speaking guardian is being flooded with new players though.
I wish I had that problem. Guardian is usually pretty dead for me whenever I log in(mostly around 5pm-10pm Calif time) , no matter the time of day. So you aren't broadcasting or even have your LFT flag up yet get tons of invites? Whatever you are doing, let me know because the only servers I get invites on a fairly consistent basis are Freedom then Virtue. Even then, its not on a 24/7 basis. I am playing around level 10-15 with my toons on that server. Does this amount of invites happen at a higher level or is it an AT thing(I have a lvl 14 Dark/Dark scrapper and lvl 4 controller I play now)?
about 4:30pm now and playing my controller about 5:15 and they still are not done with costume contest. I'm sure that's not helping my invite situation atm.(oh and got a blind SG invite which I declined. If you are too lazy to try and sell me on why I should join your SG, it can't be very good.) 6:07pm still no invites. thinking of switching to my scrapper instead. 6:15 got a team for my troller, woot. almost gave up hope.
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It didn't take players very long to ding 50 with their villains and move back into the older CoH game. Which I find amusing since CoH didn't have much of a content upgrade for almost 10 months.
The new issue is the fact that server populations are slowly shrinking to the point where spliting the population into two with CoV and have 11 servers to spread people out is starting to hurt the game. Is it a ghost town? Certainly not during "primetime" hours. However, off peak hours are getting pretty empty.
The Devs in the forums are in "Ivory Tower" mode because of the CoV "end game" LRSF balance. Even the rabid fanboys are complaing about that. NC Soft felt that it would be better to move their Ace Community Rep from Coh/v to Tabula Rasa.
Since Coh/v is the only real Superhero game, so I want it to do well and Grow. Sadly, they spent all their resources on PvP which was probably a bad investment.
Guild Wars.
Every game company tries to do this. Good ones do it with "carrots" (content) rather than "sticks" (nerfs).
Cryptic is not a good one.
Guild Wars isn't an MMO either. It's Diablo on steroids.
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lol. Who freaking cares what you call it?!?!?
You asked to name a GAME that wasn't a grind and the best you can respond with is this???
Wow.
I have to disagree with this. Even at primetime, servers other than Freedom and Virtue can be a ghost-town depending on the zone and even the zones with people(usually Atlas, Hollows, Steel, Talos) are NOT that heavily populated. Last night on Justice from around 7pm-10pm was the most people I've seen in PI for a while(but lets not get crazy since I didn't see more than 20 total). Lower levels, Kings Row, Galaxy and Skyway are sooo much more empty than when I first played this game.
I have to disagree with this. Even at primetime, servers other than Freedom and Virtue can be a ghost-town depending on the zone and even the zones with people(usually Atlas, Hollows, Steel, Talos) are NOT that heavily populated. Last night on Justice from around 7pm-10pm was the most people I've seen in PI for a while(but lets not get crazy since I didn't see more than 20 total). Lower levels, Kings Row, Galaxy and Skyway are sooo much more empty than when I first played this game.
With the addtions of Thugs, Elec Brutes, Dark Stalkers and mayhem missions, alot of the pop is on COV right now...Mercy was pretty crowded last night. I saw alot of folks in Talos as well, but that was on Virtue, which is always busy.
Guild Wars.
Every game company tries to do this. Good ones do it with "carrots" (content) rather than "sticks" (nerfs).
Cryptic is not a good one.
Guild Wars? Guils Wars? That is the best you could come up with? We are argueing about mindless button mashing, and you bring up guild wars? Dude...time to pass the crackpipe.
Please show me where the missions like Mayhem missions in COV are in GW?
Please show me where the quality stories are in GW?
If you wish to whine about depth of game, maybe you should pick a better contender than freaking GW
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"Some days you just can't get rid of a bomb." -- Batman
Guild Wars.
Every game company tries to do this. Good ones do it with "carrots" (content) rather than "sticks" (nerfs).
Cryptic is not a good one.
Guild Wars? Guils Wars? That is the best you could come up with? We are argueing about mindless button mashing, and you bring up guild wars? Dude...time to pass the crackpipe.
Please show me where the missions like Mayhem missions in COV are in GW?
Please show me where the quality stories are in GW?
If you wish to whine about depth of game, maybe you should pick a better contender than freaking GW
It's not even worth arguing with this idiot. He can LOL all he wants. The guy has zero credibility. Guild Wars... Sheesh ....
At least he didn't choose Runescape. Although, ya never know ... maybe he plays....
**cue Serling calling me a fanboi because he has nothing else original to offer**
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I have to disagree with this. Even at primetime, servers other than Freedom and Virtue can be a ghost-town depending on the zone and even the zones with people(usually Atlas, Hollows, Steel, Talos) are NOT that heavily populated. Last night on Justice from around 7pm-10pm was the most people I've seen in PI for a while(but lets not get crazy since I didn't see more than 20 total). Lower levels, Kings Row, Galaxy and Skyway are sooo much more empty than when I first played this game.
I have to disagree with this. Even at primetime, servers other than Freedom and Virtue can be a ghost-town depending on the zone and even the zones with people(usually Atlas, Hollows, Steel, Talos) are NOT that heavily populated. Last night on Justice from around 7pm-10pm was the most people I've seen in PI for a while(but lets not get crazy since I didn't see more than 20 total). Lower levels, Kings Row, Galaxy and Skyway are sooo much more empty than when I first played this game.
Well, primetime on the hero side I usually see about 600-700 heroes on various servers. That's certainly a lot lower than the 1700+ I was seeing back in the "good ole days" but I did see that many during 2x XP weekend. 600 is not a ghost town but it compares well to 120 online at 2am for example. Now that's a ghost town. Your preaching to the choir here, in the sense I agree that the devs need to get on the ball and get these servers filled! 600 isn't a Ghost Town, but its certainly not healthy.
The original question was "name a GAME that ISN'T a grind."
I did. You "idiots" can't accept the answer.
That's your problem, not mine.
Go take another bong-hit, dude. You need to chill.
The original question was "name a GAME that ISN'T a grind."
I did. You "idiots" can't accept the answer.
That's your problem, not mine.
Go take another bong-hit, dude. You need to chill.
no, you didnt...you named a game with a huge grind...and a way to skip the grind and go to the endgame.
Its all in the community and finding people you can work with to get things done with minimum debt. We play on invinc. so take that into account but my best friend and I run the SG for my guild that plays basically all the MMO's out there and some FPS's and we have a couple other friends we lvl with in my city, but other than that its all guild mates that are in other cities that I've never met in person. We have 5 or 6 of us that run missions for 2 to 3 hours during the week and a good portion of sat. and sun. but thats when my guild does events and the like. So with these 5 or 6 people we recruit a second tank and defender and off we go.
When you are close to the people you play with and enjoy their company I can honestly say I enjoy the game and it hardly feels like a grind, someone will say O I have this mission thats been giving me trouble and off we go gaining a lvl a night many times and on weekends much more. We do have deaths but since we play on invlinc a few groups of mobs and its gone and since you can side kick the lower lvls if one of our friends get behind we just sk them til they catch up.
I would say there are less people now then when I first a few months after launch, but when you lvl with your guildmates mostly its not that big of a issue. I would say the game is still alive and doing well, its not WOW numbers wise but nothing is. The big plus I've noticed that even when its just me and my best friend forming a group we can have a complete team together and in a mission in 15 mins or so which compared to a game like FFXI(one of the games I played before COH) isn't bad at all.
There are changes that have been made over the time the game has been up that I disagree with, tankers have become the hardest class to find since COV came out since Brutes tend to be more fun to play and tankers such as the fire have had some heavy nerfs from what I understand(never played one myself).
PVP is alot of fun, but since the COH vs. COV is still fairly new there are some imbalances though I guess any mmo will have that to some degree. One last note if you hate those that bot and the companies that gold farm or the inflated economies of games like guild wars then COX will especially will appeal to you.
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The original question was "name a GAME that ISN'T a grind."
I did. You "idiots" can't accept the answer.
That's your problem, not mine.
Go take another bong-hit, dude. You need to chill.
no, you didnt...you named a game with a huge grind...and a way to skip the grind and go to the endgame.
Your comments is a paradox. It doesn't make sense. You are trying to win a debate by doing it in a paradoxical way. GW allows you to skip the grind. It allows you to make 20 out of the gate.
CoH grind is in par or worst with most Korean MMOGs. Like I said before I got to 60 in WoW twice as fast as I did to 50 in CoX.
Your comments is a paradox. It doesn't make sense. You are trying to win a debate by doing it in a paradoxical way. GW allows you to skip the grind. It allows you to make 20 out of the gate.
CoH grind is in par or worst with most Korean MMOGs. Like I said before I got to 60 in WoW twice as fast as I did to 50 in CoX.
So if you could make a 50 out of the box in in CoH, you would say coh has no grind?
Also, you are either a WoW prodigy or you suck at CoH...you can lvl at about the same speed in these games. But, for the sake of argument, lets say that is true...go over to the wow boards and ask them if the trip to 60 was twice as long, would they consider it a grind...
So if you could make a 50 out of the box in in CoH, you would say coh has no grind?
Also, you are either a WoW prodigy or you suck at CoH...you can lvl at about the same speed in these games. But, for the sake of argument, lets say that is true...go over to the wow boards and ask them if the trip to 60 was twice as long, would they consider it a grind...
Lol!!! So if there's a "huge grind" (fact: there is none at all) but you could "skip it" and go straight to the end game, how can there possibly be any grind at all?!?!?
You've obviously never played GW, and yet you're going to make wholly unfounded, asinine, and self-contradictory assertions like that???
Put that crackpipe down and back slowly away...
Of course, none of this changes the FACT that despite alll the alleged "new content" with CoV and I7, the game has just about as many players as when it was released. And because the player population at release was only spread among 11 total servers and not 15, there were more players playing at any given time on each of those servers.
The impression most people have that most servers and zones feel like ghost towns is completely born out by the numbers.
But enjoy your nerf-infested grind-fest while it lasts. The game won't die with a bang, the way Auto Assault did, but with a whimper. However there's no question rabid, foam-at-the-mouth fanboys like grinreaper and Motohead will continue to think everything is just perfect until NCSoft pulls the last plug on the last server.
Ding!! I knew you'd have to play the fanboy card.
Maybe once you actually start playing an MMO, you opinion might matter. But for now, your opinion means nothing.
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"Some days you just can't get rid of a bomb." -- Batman
Thanks Serling, calling me a fanboi makes me feel like part of the community now...
2 questions:
1. So, on the one hand CoH has the same # of players as it did at release, but the game is dieing? I guess I am dumb, cos that makes no sense...it like having the pizzia guy only cut your pie into 4 pieces cuz you dont think you can eat 8 pieces...WTF?
2. Dont you think it is a bit early to start claiming population effects for I7? Lets see what the next NCSoft report brings...I expect concurrent users will be way up.
Since NCSoft gets like 7% of its income from CoH, I dont expect them to pull the plug any time soon...but you hold onto that dream, man. Hold on and dont ever let go!!!
That same number of players are now spread over 50% more servers and twice the number of zones per server.
In any one zone you are statistically likely to see only 1/3 of the population you would have encountered during the games first month.
Further to this, off peak hours the game is a ghost town. Outside of primetime you will be lucky to find a decent 8 man team.
With no expansion in sight expect this to get worse fast.
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I concur this isn't going to be switched off any time soon. Server merges wouldn't go amiss though.
I'm sorry if you don't enjoy the game Serling but why do you set out to convince anyone who might play that the game is dying in the post if thats the case. I've been there as a game dies cough "swg" cough, and this game is doing fine. I've never understood why people like you are paying for the game, you do mention I7, if you don't like it and if you're not paying for it you really wouldn't know how the game is doing atm. Its a niche game for a specific market which the loyal fanbase obviously is. My SG is very active, teaming is quick and easy. I don't see the signs of this slow death. If you're on one of the servers with less traffic move over to Freedom or Virtue. Comparing the numbers this game has to EVE online and this game looks like it flooded with users, but noone says that EVE is dying because it isn't, its just a niche game just as COH is. Honestly oustside of WOW I really don't see any of the current MMO's pulling those huge numbers, each game has its loyal following but the numbers on most don't seem to eclipse 200k imo. Since GW isn't a MMO and doesn't charge a fee I don't consider it, but look at all the other MMO's, each has a small part of the pie so to speak outside of WOW.
Just my opionion
I would say they will wait and see on the new COH/COV pak before we get merges.
I guess I dont see alot of the low pop issues since I mostly play on Virtue...where if I want to solo, I disable invites cuz I get so many.
Off course I could be completly off base with this
about 4:30pm now and playing my controller
about 5:15 and they still are not done with costume contest. I'm sure that's not helping my invite situation atm.(oh and got a blind SG invite which I declined. If you are too lazy to try and sell me on why I should join your SG, it can't be very good.)
6:07pm still no invites. thinking of switching to my scrapper instead.
6:15 got a team for my troller, woot. almost gave up hope.