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Israel attacks Lebanon, leaving many dead

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  • slapme7timesslapme7times Member Posts: 436


    Originally posted by herminyon

    I do care actually. Unfortunately Lebanon is one of the weakest governments in the Arab world and is basically run by Hezzbollah (sp?). It is unfortunate because if the Lebanese government were actually running the show things would be a lot better. Returning the hostages would be a good start and would certainly give them the high moral ground but Lebanon=Hezzbollah refuse to do it.
    I am not sure how you can react moderately against people who want you "wiped off the face of the earth" in the words of the Iranian government (Hezzbollah is heavily Iranian based). The only good thing I can see coming outta this is that Hezzbollah is dismantled in that region.
    As a Christian I always find it puzzling how the Muslim religion has such a problem with being hijacked by extremists. It's unfortunate since I know the extremists views and attitudes contrast so sharply with my Muslim friends.


    wow.  it's not like george bush said the exact same thing about america's enemies, the axis of evil?

    well wait, except we actually are in the process of wiping those countries and cultures off the face of the earth arent we?

    pretty soon, practicing muslims will convert to Walmartism just as americans have.


    --people who believe in abstinence are unsurprisingly also some of the ugliest most sexually undesired people in the world.--

  • slapme7timesslapme7times Member Posts: 436

    i wish new good mmo's would come out, so i could blithely ignore the problems of poor people =)
    seriously, who really cares? if the finished version of warhammer was out, i wouldnt be writing here.
    let israeli's zealot leaders conspiratize with the west into another bloodthirsty seizure of more land that doesnt belong to them.
    in the end, it's poor people getting screwed by rich people, but hey, i'd rather die now then be stuck in perpetual waiting for the next fun mmo experience.

    --people who believe in abstinence are unsurprisingly also some of the ugliest most sexually undesired people in the world.--

  • BlazinBladesBlazinBlades Member Posts: 1,214

    About time we make a stand and push back against the Hez. Thank you for your time.

    Damn byotch dat aint no friggn moon fool, dat be a friggn space station byotch.

  • goofy3kgoofy3k Member UncommonPosts: 250

    Well said blazinblades

    to all the pro hezbollah anti west retards - U know nothing about what u are talking about my friend. The fight between israel and palastine goes way back into the stone age, you are kids who knows absolutely nothng, just jumping on the anti america, lets all be hippies 2006 bandwagon. Snap out of it man. In england the news is the exact opposite, israel are the bad people and muslims are the hard done by people. If you want to talk poo about stuff then at least research what u are talking about or have some clue man.

    The world is a crazy place, not because of america but because of religion, and the most evil of all, islam. Would be fine if you could just leave them be to get on with there stone age ways, but if u try help in anyway u become an enemy, and things get misunderstood because of the way their religion is.

    Israel went through shit, and i am glad they are standing up for themselves and not giving in to demands, and actually doing something to save the hostages that were taken, which is more than i can say about other countries in the world. Israel will do things on there own anyway, even if no western countries support them.

    In hte middle east if u are from the west people dislike you for your way of life, and that is the truth. Islam and the rest of the world are incompatible. Go do some research of the quran, and understand how it is actually read. When it says things like dont kill other men, it means dont kill other muslim men.


    Stop your crying about lebonese dying, they started poo with israel and supported it, now they get whats coming. As in the quran it says : an eye for an eye

  • Bama1267Bama1267 Member UncommonPosts: 1,822


    Originally posted by OneMuslim

    Including People from Various Gulf countries and Sham Countries and other Arab, Muslims and Non-Muslims.
    The nice thing is that no one here gave a damn about this issue, i mean look at what happens in these boards when Israel get attacked or USA or Canada get attacked, but when an Arab country get attacked no one mentions a single word about it.
    Well there now you have it, Israel going on a rampage attacking everyone around them, and then they expect no one to retaliate, and whoever retaliates is deemed terrorist.
    Expect WW3 soon friends :}
    And expect Israel to lose in it.



     It is a countries duty to control its citizens to an extent. You can not have your citizens attacking other countries. In this case Hamas and Hez. A country can only say they dont sponsor terrorism so many times. If the country can not handle it, the country being attacked has a right to defend itself. We full well know the governments of Palestine , Lebanon , Syria , Iran and others not only harbor terrorism but sponsor it as well. They would like nothing more than to whipe israel off the map....while Israel would just be content if these countries would leave them the fuck alone.

     Seems a few of you are getting it twisted. Israel is not to blame for the deaths of innocent citizens...the governments who sponsor terrorism against Israel are. But this is  not a problem that can be easily solved since most of the countries with the exception of Iran are weak at best. Those countries dont have the power nor the resources to deter terrorism even if they wanted to.

  • boognish75boognish75 Member UncommonPosts: 1,540


    Originally posted by OneMuslim

    Including People from Various Gulf countries and Sham Countries and other Arab, Muslims and Non-Muslims.
    The nice thing is that no one here gave a damn about this issue, i mean look at what happens in these boards when Israel get attacked or USA or Canada get attacked, but when an Arab country get attacked no one mentions a single word about it.
    Well there now you have it, Israel going on a rampage attacking everyone around them, and then they expect no one to retaliate, and whoever retaliates is deemed terrorist.
    Expect WW3 soon friends :}
    And expect Israel to lose in it.


    i dont think it gets much mentioning anymore simply because everydamn time i hear about the mid-east and surrounding areas its about war, war this shah that, overthrown reble grps, it just becomes background buzz afterwhile, i think people are burnt out on caring or even to notice about that, just like the hunger in africa, i dont hear about it anymore, i used to, but wehat can ya do, help for so long b4 you throw yer arms up and say well wtf, you live in a desert, get out wherwe you can grow food or yer gonna die, and get back to yer own life, i think the same case is happening in the mid-east, how long till you throw yer arms up and say you knolw what, all you country's do whatever it is you do, kill eachother, be friends with eachother, whatebver cause im sick n tired of hearing, seeing, ltalking about it, im trying to raise a family now so, jsut goodbye.

    playing eq2 and two worlds

  • Ramones274Ramones274 Member Posts: 366


    Originally posted by OneMuslim

    Including People from Various Gulf countries and Sham Countries and other Arab, Muslims and Non-Muslims.
    The nice thing is that no one here gave a damn about this issue, i mean look at what happens in these boards when Israel get attacked or USA or Canada get attacked, but when an Arab country get attacked no one mentions a single word about it.
    Well there now you have it, Israel going on a rampage attacking everyone around them, and then they expect no one to retaliate, and whoever retaliates is deemed terrorist.
    Expect WW3 soon friends :}
    And expect Israel to lose in it.


    Rampage? Hardly...maybe if these countries didn't provoke Israel (a.k.a. Kill their soldiers and kidnap them) then this wouldn't happen.  Why must people be so ignorant.

    There are two kinds of people in this world. People who pick their nose.. and liars.

  • NetherbeastNetherbeast Member Posts: 55
    While the Israelis are not proportionate in their retaliation, they were attacked first. Terrorists who are allowed to live in Lebenon and sponsored by Iran and Syria attacked Israeli towns with rockets and kidnaped Israeli soldiers. What would happen if Mexicans who were backed by AlQuaida fired rockets at San Diego then kidnaped American soldiers? What kind of wrath would America cause to get them back?

    Everything was going fine for a while. Isreal left the ocupation of Lebenon in 2000, they were backing out of Palestine and physically removing Jewish settlers. There was open negotioans and fighting had ceased. This is Irans way of drawing attention away from their nuclear programs. They are backing terrorists to cause trouble so we dont notice a nuclear missile pointing at our troops in Iraq or bases in Saudi Arabia.

    Just a sidenote: Do people realize there were no palestinians until Isreal was created by the UN after WW2? The people who call themselves palestinans were always refugees and wandering tribes persecuted in other Arab countries. Jordan massacred 'palestinians' and no one noticed pecause it was Arab on Arab violence. Syria also killed many palestinians to keep their numbers down. But we don't hear about that. They only decided that Isreal was their land when the Jews were given the land. Ever see a 2 year old not want to play with his toys until another 2 year old shows up? It's just like that.

    As for WW3, it's not gonna happen. When the whole mid east was at war with Isreal, it wasn't imporatnt enough to be called a world war. As for Isreal loosing, that won't happen either. I take that back. Isreal looses when they win.  This is the same country that had something called the 6 day war. Egypt, Syria, Iraq and Jordon attacked Isreal. Guess who won in 6 days time. They even trippled their territory then was asked to give it back in the Camp David Accords. When they win, they loose.

    Give a man fire and he''s warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he''s warm the rest of his life.


  • Originally posted by Netherbeast


    Just a sidenote: Do people realize there were no palestinians until Isreal was created by the UN after WW2? The people who call themselves palestinans were always refugees and wandering tribes persecuted in other Arab countries. Jordan massacred 'palestinians' and no one noticed pecause it was Arab on Arab violence. Syria also killed many palestinians to keep their numbers down. But we don't hear about that. They only decided that Isreal was their land when the Jews were given the land. Ever see a 2 year old not want to play with his toys until another 2 year old shows up? It's just like that.

    uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, the word massacred is a little bit too much, and ummm, palestine was under the islamic rule since the day Salahuddeen recapture it way back, don't know date, so umm, you're saying something totally untrue here.

    As for WW3, it's not gonna happen. When the whole mid east was at war with Isreal, it wasn't imporatnt enough to be called a world war. As for Isreal loosing, that won't happen either. I take that back. Isreal looses when they win.  This is the same country that had something called the 6 day war. Egypt, Syria, Iraq and Jordon attacked Isreal. Guess who won in 6 days time. They even trippled their territory then was asked to give it back in the Camp David Accords. When they win, they loose.

    yes well, ever heared the saying that says, one day for you, and one on you :D

    well, the israelies have taken their day, and it's time it gets on them i think.


    oh and about them losing, well, they'll actually be eradicated, but, this will be the end of the beginning of the judgement day, and the israelies know that too, their Rabais that is.
  • blingbladeblingblade Member Posts: 42
    All Religions have made their mistakes, its the ones who admit their mistakes and move on that will prevail.  Islam is not a bad religion, RADICAL ISLAM is the problem.  Extremists twist faith into tactical superiority and genocide...All for the root of man's universal evil, which is greed/power.... ISLAM is not free from it no matter how much faith they have.  The true islams practice peace and understanding, sharing and love.  Extremists view all other religions and races not with them in their particular view as a threat.  Shouldnt be that way.  If they are angry for the thousands of years of war from christians themselves and others,  its time to get over it.. Fighting a pointless war AGAIN will not solve anything.... ANOTHER BIG PROBLEM IS TRUST,, no one trusts anyone anymore... hitchhikers, folks of other races, other religions, no trust anymore.....I myself suffer from a lack of trust in my fellow man.... to bad too, probably lots of good people out there who have been shaken by the mistrust they feel everyday... so they to dont trust anyone anymore....viscious circle.... Maybe instead of talking about each nations power, we could talk about the power of peace..... nothing like it..... even my avatar is violent, lol i know u are looking at it and saying who am i to talk.. but hell im just typing how i feel atm....
  • _Shadowmage_Shadowmage Member Posts: 1,459

    Well I think we should stop messing around in the Middle East it just makes it worse. Half the terrorist organizations (probably an exaggeration) have been funded in the past by the U.S. Saddam during the Iraq / Iran war, Taliban during the russian invasion of Afghanistan.

    There is plenty of desert in the middle of Australia - Israel can relocate here. The indigenous people only have spears , so no terrorists.

    Put Sadam back in charge and give him Kuwait as an apology for removing him from government.

    Unfortunately once you start meddling - you need to keep meddling to stop it all crashing down.

    And the original poster is correct - I dont care about war in the middle-east. I care about whether I can feed my kids.

  • slapme7timesslapme7times Member Posts: 436


    Originally posted by goofy3k

    Well said blazinblades
    to all the pro hezbollah anti west retards - U know nothing about what u are talking about my friend. The fight between israel and palastine goes way back into the stone age, you are kids who knows absolutely nothng, just jumping on the anti america, lets all be hippies 2006 bandwagon. Snap out of it man. In england the news is the exact opposite, israel are the bad people and muslims are the hard done by people. If you want to talk poo about stuff then at least research what u are talking about or have some clue man.
    The world is a crazy place, not because of america but because of religion, and the most evil of all, islam. Would be fine if you could just leave them be to get on with there stone age ways, but if u try help in anyway u become an enemy, and things get misunderstood because of the way their religion is.
    Israel went through shit, and i am glad they are standing up for themselves and not giving in to demands, and actually doing something to save the hostages that were taken, which is more than i can say about other countries in the world. Israel will do things on there own anyway, even if no western countries support them.
    In hte middle east if u are from the west people dislike you for your way of life, and that is the truth. Islam and the rest of the world are incompatible. Go do some research of the quran, and understand how it is actually read. When it says things like dont kill other men, it means dont kill other muslim men.

    Stop your crying about lebonese dying, they started poo with israel and supported it, now they get whats coming. As in the quran it says : an eye for an eye



    this is the most repugnant post i've ever read.

    check the facts?

    israel STOLE the land with the help of the 'west'

    if it's all an eye for an eye, then you must accept that 9/11 was perfectly justifiable.

    'if you're not with us, your against us'

    isnt that our foreign policy?

    the united states isnt just indifferent to the plight of those tossed out of their homelands in the mid east, it actively contributes to their suffering.

    check the facts....

    jesus christ wtf are you talking about?

    we invaded iraq without any reason at all, they had no connection with alqueda.  we've killed OVER 6,000 civilians and created hundreds of thousand new terrorists?

    as far as i'm concerned, under your 'eye for an eye' logic, 9/11 was a righteous cause compared to the iraq war.

    at least osama chose to attack someone who was attacking his people, we just arbitrarily slaughter anyone with natural resources we'd like to seize?

    whose more just now, dumbass?

    --people who believe in abstinence are unsurprisingly also some of the ugliest most sexually undesired people in the world.--

  • slapme7timesslapme7times Member Posts: 436


    Originally posted by Bama1267

    Originally posted by OneMuslim

    Including People from Various Gulf countries and Sham Countries and other Arab, Muslims and Non-Muslims.
    The nice thing is that no one here gave a damn about this issue, i mean look at what happens in these boards when Israel get attacked or USA or Canada get attacked, but when an Arab country get attacked no one mentions a single word about it.
    Well there now you have it, Israel going on a rampage attacking everyone around them, and then they expect no one to retaliate, and whoever retaliates is deemed terrorist.
    Expect WW3 soon friends :}
    And expect Israel to lose in it.




     It is a countries duty to control its citizens to an extent. You can not have your citizens attacking other countries. In this case Hamas and Hez. A country can only say they dont sponsor terrorism so many times. If the country can not handle it, the country being attacked has a right to defend itself. We full well know the governments of Palestine , Lebanon , Syria , Iran and others not only harbor terrorism but sponsor it as well. They would like nothing more than to whipe israel off the map....while Israel would just be content if these countries would leave them the fuck alone.
     Seems a few of you are getting it twisted. Israel is not to blame for the deaths of innocent citizens...the governments who sponsor terrorism against Israel are. But this is  not a problem that can be easily solved since most of the countries with the exception of Iran are weak at best. Those countries dont have the power nor the resources to deter terrorism even if they wanted to.


    if i came to your neighborhood, stole your house, evicted you, and shot some of your family while i was at it, would you leave me the fuck alone?

    the problem with all arguments against the 'evils of terrorism' is that most terrorists have justification for why they do what they do.

    everyone talks about justified and calculated responses.   jesus.  terrorism is just a justified and calculated response.

    nobody needs to 'sponsor terrorism'

    if someone raped your sister, it wouldnt take a government paying you to get you to do something about it.  it wouldnt take police action for some retaliation transpire.

    honestly, if someone was raping your sister, would you sit down and wait for someone to 'sponsor' you to do something about it? 

    --people who believe in abstinence are unsurprisingly also some of the ugliest most sexually undesired people in the world.--

  • slapme7timesslapme7times Member Posts: 436


    Originally posted by blingblade
    All Religions have made their mistakes, its the ones who admit their mistakes and move on that will prevail.  Islam is not a bad religion, RADICAL ISLAM is the problem.  Extremists twist faith into tactical superiority and genocide...All for the root of man's universal evil, which is greed/power.... ISLAM is not free from it no matter how much faith they have.  The true islams practice peace and understanding, sharing and love.  Extremists view all other religions and races not with them in their particular view as a threat.  Shouldnt be that way.  If they are angry for the thousands of years of war from christians themselves and others,  its time to get over it.. Fighting a pointless war AGAIN will not solve anything.... ANOTHER BIG PROBLEM IS TRUST,, no one trusts anyone anymore... hitchhikers, folks of other races, other religions, no trust anymore.....I myself suffer from a lack of trust in my fellow man.... to bad too, probably lots of good people out there who have been shaken by the mistrust they feel everyday... so they to dont trust anyone anymore....viscious circle.... Maybe instead of talking about each nations power, we could talk about the power of peace..... nothing like it..... even my avatar is violent, lol i know u are looking at it and saying who am i to talk.. but hell im just typing how i feel atm....

    can we really call terrorists greedy?

    they got robbed.

    they want their shit back.

    how is that 'greedy'?

    --people who believe in abstinence are unsurprisingly also some of the ugliest most sexually undesired people in the world.--

  • baffbaff Member Posts: 9,457


    Originally posted by slapme7times

    what's wrong with the IRA?
    they seem pretty justified in what they do.



    They are trying to unify a country that does not want to be unified. Since no one wants to listen to them because no wants what they are peddling, they blow up children to get attention.

    If they want to live in a Republican Ireland, they can. Since 1920 that option has been available to them. But that's not want they want. What they want is to force all those Irish who don't wish to live in a Repulican Ireland (Northern Ireland) to live in a Republican Ireland or die.

    I stood next to a bus full of exploded people once. I was on a trip with all my school children and just trying to get them not to look at it. All of my life I have been in and around IRA bombings. It's no big deal I guess. It's never felt lke one at the time.

    But make no mistake, the IRA are my enemies. And if they are O.K. with you, then you are my enemy too.

  • slapme7timesslapme7times Member Posts: 436


    Originally posted by Ramones274

    Originally posted by OneMuslim

    Including People from Various Gulf countries and Sham Countries and other Arab, Muslims and Non-Muslims.
    The nice thing is that no one here gave a damn about this issue, i mean look at what happens in these boards when Israel get attacked or USA or Canada get attacked, but when an Arab country get attacked no one mentions a single word about it.
    Well there now you have it, Israel going on a rampage attacking everyone around them, and then they expect no one to retaliate, and whoever retaliates is deemed terrorist.
    Expect WW3 soon friends :}
    And expect Israel to lose in it.

    Rampage? Hardly...maybe if these countries didn't provoke Israel (a.k.a. Kill their soldiers and kidnap them) then this wouldn't happen.  Why must people be so ignorant.



    dumbass.

    the 'terrorists' own the land israel sits on.   why must you be so ignorant?

    --people who believe in abstinence are unsurprisingly also some of the ugliest most sexually undesired people in the world.--

  • slapme7timesslapme7times Member Posts: 436


    Originally posted by Netherbeast
    While the Israelis are not proportionate in their retaliation, they were attacked first. Terrorists who are allowed to live in Lebenon and sponsored by Iran and Syria attacked Israeli towns with rockets and kidnaped Israeli soldiers. What would happen if Mexicans who were backed by AlQuaida fired rockets at San Diego then kidnaped American soldiers? What kind of wrath would America cause to get them back?

    Everything was going fine for a while. Isreal left the ocupation of Lebenon in 2000, they were backing out of Palestine and physically removing Jewish settlers. There was open negotioans and fighting had ceased. This is Irans way of drawing attention away from their nuclear programs. They are backing terrorists to cause trouble so we dont notice a nuclear missile pointing at our troops in Iraq or bases in Saudi Arabia.

    Just a sidenote: Do people realize there were no palestinians until Isreal was created by the UN after WW2? The people who call themselves palestinans were always refugees and wandering tribes persecuted in other Arab countries. Jordan massacred 'palestinians' and no one noticed pecause it was Arab on Arab violence. Syria also killed many palestinians to keep their numbers down. But we don't hear about that. They only decided that Isreal was their land when the Jews were given the land. Ever see a 2 year old not want to play with his toys until another 2 year old shows up? It's just like that.

    As for WW3, it's not gonna happen. When the whole mid east was at war with Isreal, it wasn't imporatnt enough to be called a world war. As for Isreal loosing, that won't happen either. I take that back. Isreal looses when they win.  This is the same country that had something called the 6 day war. Egypt, Syria, Iraq and Jordon attacked Isreal. Guess who won in 6 days time. They even trippled their territory then was asked to give it back in the Camp David Accords. When they win, they loose.


    israel was never attacked first.

    israel is stolen land, stolen from the terrorists.

    it's the 'wests' foothold in the region.

    israel couldnt survive without western jets tanks copters armor weapons etc.

    it's americas way of murdering arabs without actually being help responsible.

    they just give them large guns, watch them take land that isnt theirs, and then wait for the retaliation.

    this leads to more war, which leads to more western control of the middle east.

    conflict is in the interest of the west, because israel will always win.

    kids with rocks vs guns and tanks

    --people who believe in abstinence are unsurprisingly also some of the ugliest most sexually undesired people in the world.--

  • slapme7timesslapme7times Member Posts: 436


    Originally posted by baff

    Originally posted by slapme7times

    what's wrong with the IRA?
    they seem pretty justified in what they do.


    They are trying to unify a country that does not want to be unified. Since no one wants to listen to them because no wants what they are peddling, they blow up children to get attention.

    If they want to live in a Republican Ireland, they can. Since 1920 that option has been available to them. But that's not want they want. What they want is to force all those Irish who don't wish to live in a Repulican Ireland (Northern Ireland) to live in a Republican Ireland or die.

    I stood next to a bus full of exploded people once. I was on a trip with all my school children and just trying to get them not to look at it. All of my life I have been in and around IRA bombings. It's no big deal I guess. It's never felt lke one at the time.

    But make no mistake, the IRA are my enemies. And if they are O.K. with you, then you are my enemy too.


    us sanctions killed thousands of iraqi children because they couldnt get basic medical supplies.

    is america your enemy?

    --people who believe in abstinence are unsurprisingly also some of the ugliest most sexually undesired people in the world.--

  • baffbaff Member Posts: 9,457


    Originally posted by goofy3k

    Well said blazinblades
     In england the news is the exact opposite, israel are the bad people and muslims are the hard done by people. If you want to talk poo about stuff then at least research what u are talking about or have some clue man.



    While I admit that this is usually true, currently it isn't. For the first time in a long time, England is right behind Israel.

    Go Israel.

    we do however have a substantial Muslim and Palestinian ethnic base to our culture. Not as big as Frances perhaps, but it is there. We will always be sympatheic to the plight of the Palestinians and the Lebanese.

  • slapme7timesslapme7times Member Posts: 436


    Originally posted by ob1sr




    Originally posted by Netherbeast


    Just a sidenote: Do people realize there were no palestinians until Isreal was created by the UN after WW2? The people who call themselves palestinans were always refugees and wandering tribes persecuted in other Arab countries. Jordan massacred 'palestinians' and no one noticed pecause it was Arab on Arab violence. Syria also killed many palestinians to keep their numbers down. But we don't hear about that. They only decided that Isreal was their land when the Jews were given the land. Ever see a 2 year old not want to play with his toys until another 2 year old shows up? It's just like that.

    uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, the word massacred is a little bit too much, and ummm, palestine was under the islamic rule since the day Salahuddeen recapture it way back, don't know date, so umm, you're saying something totally untrue here.

    As for WW3, it's not gonna happen. When the whole mid east was at war with Isreal, it wasn't imporatnt enough to be called a world war. As for Isreal loosing, that won't happen either. I take that back. Isreal looses when they win.  This is the same country that had something called the 6 day war. Egypt, Syria, Iraq and Jordon attacked Isreal. Guess who won in 6 days time. They even trippled their territory then was asked to give it back in the Camp David Accords. When they win, they loose.

    yes well, ever heared the saying that says, one day for you, and one on you :D
    well, the israelies have taken their day, and it's time it gets on them i think.



    oh and about them losing, well, they'll actually be eradicated, but, this will be the end of the beginning of the judgement day, and the israelies know that too, their Rabais that is.



    yet another self fulfilling prophecy!

    how many people will we murder to try and prove the bibles true?

    if you predict death and destruction, alll you have to do is kill people to prove your predictions correct

    nobody can guess =)

    --people who believe in abstinence are unsurprisingly also some of the ugliest most sexually undesired people in the world.--

  • EromErom Member Posts: 66
    Israel could have very easily avoided this by sending in Mossad to kill the kidnappers and get the hostages back.  They know where they are, they just can't stand an organized Arab government being near their borders.  They don't care that they are killing civilians, they consider their middle eastern neighbors to be less than animals.  Why else would they bulldoze Palestinian refugee camps, crushin those still in their tents?  Why else would they abduct suspects from their homes in Palestine and Lebenon and put them in iron boxes that sit out in 100 degree + temperatures until they bake as if they were in an oven? 

    As stated before, several European nations who did not want the Jewish people in their countries worked with the US to draw out borders for a new nation and then supplied the Jewish people with arms and funds to go in and push and kill people off the land which would become Israel.

    The Jews are not the problem, Zionism is the problem. 


    Oh...and as a side note, the civilian casualties in Iraq since American occupation has been 14,000.  That number is comprise of those killed by terrorists, those killed in the onset of the war, those killed by our bombardments, and those dragged out into the streets and executed  by American troops - and however many other episodes of killing families and raping their 14 year old daughter, then killing her.

    Humans are animals still, no matter how much civilization and technology we build.  Put us in the right situation and we revert.



  • slapme7timesslapme7times Member Posts: 436


    Originally posted by Malachi1975

    Originally posted by robbykl1415

    I l ove to sit back a nd see all this support for Israel.  And its all because you are ignorant.  I dont blame you, I blame our news.  But I do blame you because you still sit and let with FLITH be fed to you.  But I guess thats how you like your news, sppon fed. 
    Watch the news sometime with an OPEN MIND!  Watch how they spin everything in Israels favor.  They never say how many civs Israels bombs have killed today.  All they talk about is how bad  is Hezbollah and his people.
    The rich gets richer and the poor gets poorer.  Thats that.

    Who, huh, wha? Are you even watching something like CNN? They list out the deathtolls daily on both sides. They've even gone out of their way to point out that the Lebanese Deathtolls GRAVELY outnumber the Israeli deathtolls. And I've yet ONCE to hear Wolf Blitzer call them anything BUT Lebanese deaths. He's not implying that they are all Hezbollah.

    Meanwhile they are pushing sites like BloggingBeruit along with Israel Blogs. I am starting to wonder if you are actually watching the news, Robby, or just acusing us of watching something you've never even seen. Sometimes you make sense, other times you go Jim Jones on me.


    maybe he's just pondering on the fact that we dont instigate regime change in israel when they assault other countries?

    attacking lebanon for hezbollah is like the state of oklahoma attacking america because of timothy mcveigh.

    if the news isnt stilted, why isnt the news convincing us israel has wmds?

    because we know they do, because we gave them to them, and because they dont really care who they slaughter.

    all the news has to do is pacify us so israel can do its thing.

    we wont push for action against israel as long as we're not told to.

    i mean seriously, would we have ever started the iraq war had we not been lied to about wmds? you hear about wmds in 99/100 countries, but we dont attack? we've got human rights abuses in american sweatshops all over the world and we dont do shit?

    if the media says watch, we watch, if the media says scold we scold, if the media says war, we go to war.

    that's how fuckin stilted our news is.  we dont even have minds of our own

    all you have to do is put a story on the news, with different headlines

    iraq may have wmds- an act of war?

    iraq may have wmds- un council to discuss this further

    iraq may have wmds- industrializing nationto promote equity and peace in the region.

    it doesnt matter what the fucks happening, just what they tell us the proper course of action in response is.


    --people who believe in abstinence are unsurprisingly also some of the ugliest most sexually undesired people in the world.--

  • baffbaff Member Posts: 9,457


    Originally posted by ob1sr




    Originally posted by Netherbeast


    Just a sidenote: Do people realize there were no palestinians until Isreal was created by the UN after WW2? The people who call themselves palestinans were always refugees and wandering tribes persecuted in other Arab countries. Jordan massacred 'palestinians' and no one noticed pecause it was Arab on Arab violence. Syria also killed many palestinians to keep their numbers down. But we don't hear about that. They only decided that Isreal was their land when the Jews were given the land. Ever see a 2 year old not want to play with his toys until another 2 year old shows up? It's just like that.

    uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, the word massacred is a little bit too much, and ummm, palestine was under the islamic rule since the day Salahuddeen recapture it way back, don't know date, so umm, you're saying something totally untrue here.

    As for WW3, it's not gonna happen. When the whole mid east was at war with Isreal, it wasn't imporatnt enough to be called a world war. As for Isreal loosing, that won't happen either. I take that back. Isreal looses when they win.  This is the same country that had something called the 6 day war. Egypt, Syria, Iraq and Jordon attacked Isreal. Guess who won in 6 days time. They even trippled their territory then was asked to give it back in the Camp David Accords. When they win, they loose.

    yes well, ever heared the saying that says, one day for you, and one on you :D
    well, the israelies have taken their day, and it's time it gets on them i think.



    oh and about them losing, well, they'll actually be eradicated, but, this will be the end of the beginning of the judgement day, and the israelies know that too, their Rabais that is.


    However much you wish this to be the truth it isn't. Israel is the only nuclear power in the middle east. It can destroy every middle eastern city within 2 minutes of deciding it wants to.

    That's why you have been seeing proxy wars. No middle eastern nation can stand in a fight against Israel, so instead they support terrorist organistaions and sponsor them with money and weapons so that they fight so close to Israels borders that nukes will not be used. This keeps Israel militarily in check.

    Judgement Day for the Israeli's is The Apocalpyse for it's enemies. Right or wrong, good bad or evil, that's how it is.

  • baffbaff Member Posts: 9,457


    Originally posted by slapme7times

    Originally posted by baff

    Originally posted by slapme7times

    what's wrong with the IRA?
    they seem pretty justified in what they do.


    They are trying to unify a country that does not want to be unified. Since no one wants to listen to them because no wants what they are peddling, they blow up children to get attention.

    If they want to live in a Republican Ireland, they can. Since 1920 that option has been available to them. But that's not want they want. What they want is to force all those Irish who don't wish to live in a Repulican Ireland (Northern Ireland) to live in a Republican Ireland or die.

    I stood next to a bus full of exploded people once. I was on a trip with all my school children and just trying to get them not to look at it. All of my life I have been in and around IRA bombings. It's no big deal I guess. It's never felt lke one at the time.

    But make no mistake, the IRA are my enemies. And if they are O.K. with you, then you are my enemy too.


    us sanctions killed thousands of iraqi children because they couldnt get basic medical supplies.

    is america your enemy?


    I'm not an Iraqi. And the U.S. wasn't the only one enforcing those sanctions.

    If you are trying to turn me against the U.S., you are pushing the wrong buttons.


  • slapme7timesslapme7times Member Posts: 436

    obviously nuclear weapons ended the mass armies prior to the technology.

    history however proves that once you have a nuke, you really can attack any country you want that doesnt have nukes.

    lebanon cant defend itself becuase then israel will use nukes, so technically it's people are forced to weather it out.

    but what happens when iran gets nukes?

    israel and the west cant fuck with oil without consequences.

    imo it's great news iran has a  weapons program, it's about time arabs stood up for themselves.

    --people who believe in abstinence are unsurprisingly also some of the ugliest most sexually undesired people in the world.--

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