Originally posted by DaEm0n Originally posted by modjoe86 Originally posted by Xexima Originally posted by Squitty Originally posted by Thanatosx33 Its the REAL world buddy. And no, repairing computers isn't below a plumber. It's not a dirty job and it's something I will enjoy.
I never said below plumber, I said not much higher.
And quite telling me about the "Real" world when you clearly have not had any experience in it.
And you know EVERYTHING about the "Real" world, because you've been living in it for what, 2 years?
We all live in this "real world." Just because I don't live in a trailor park with a bunch of low lifes doesn't mean I don't "know what the real world is like." Stop feeding me that shit.
Modjoe, it looks like you need a drink.
And I somewhat agree with you. People think that in order to experience the "real" world, we have to experience the "low life".
Yea, these people picked the wrong issue and the wrong day to start arguing with me. I'll have a drink for you.
Originally posted by modjoe86 Originally posted by DaEm0n Originally posted by modjoe86 Originally posted by Xexima Originally posted by Squitty Originally posted by Thanatosx33 Its the REAL world buddy. And no, repairing computers isn't below a plumber. It's not a dirty job and it's something I will enjoy.
I never said below plumber, I said not much higher.
And quite telling me about the "Real" world when you clearly have not had any experience in it.
And you know EVERYTHING about the "Real" world, because you've been living in it for what, 2 years?
We all live in this "real world." Just because I don't live in a trailor park with a bunch of low lifes doesn't mean I don't "know what the real world is like." Stop feeding me that shit.
Modjoe, it looks like you need a drink.
And I somewhat agree with you. People think that in order to experience the "real" world, we have to experience the "low life".
Yea, these people picked the wrong issue and the wrong day to start arguing with me. I'll have a drink for you.
Originally posted by modjoe86 Originally posted by DaEm0n Originally posted by modjoe86 Originally posted by Xexima Originally posted by Squitty Originally posted by Thanatosx33 Its the REAL world buddy. And no, repairing computers isn't below a plumber. It's not a dirty job and it's something I will enjoy.
I never said below plumber, I said not much higher.
And quite telling me about the "Real" world when you clearly have not had any experience in it.
And you know EVERYTHING about the "Real" world, because you've been living in it for what, 2 years?
We all live in this "real world." Just because I don't live in a trailor park with a bunch of low lifes doesn't mean I don't "know what the real world is like." Stop feeding me that shit.
Modjoe, it looks like you need a drink.
And I somewhat agree with you. People think that in order to experience the "real" world, we have to experience the "low life".
Yea, these people picked the wrong issue and the wrong day to start arguing with me. I'll have a drink for you.
Originally posted by Xexima actually, I doubt you are even paying that towards his school system, being that you live in a different state than him. Yeah, you do have a right to a say in the walmart thing, but no one would care what your opinion was there because it is so miniscule.
Exactly, people take this whole tax thing and blow it out of proportion. I'd be worried about the fact that my money is going towards blowing up muslim countries rather then the fact its going towards schools that are producing a generation of people both smart and dumb that are going to hold the world up like they are right now one day. Zomg hes wearing eyeliner, WEAR IS MY TAX MONEY GOING?!!! more like, OMG OUR COUNTRY IS DESTROYING THE WORLD, AND IM PAYING FOR IT!!!!
Originally posted by Thanatosx33 Originally posted by Xexima actually, I doubt you are even paying that towards his school system, being that you live in a different state than him. Yeah, you do have a right to a say in the walmart thing, but no one would care what your opinion was there because it is so miniscule.
Exactly, people take this whole tax thing and blow it out of proportion. I'd be worried about the fact that my money is going towards blowing up muslim countries rather then the fact its going towards schools that are producing a generation of people both smart and dumb that are going to hold the world up like they are right now one day. Zomg hes wearing eyeliner, WEAR IS MY TAX MONEY GOING?!!! more like, OMG OUR COUNTRY IS DESTROYING THE WORLD, AND IM PAYING FOR IT!!!!
Originally posted by Xexima actually, I doubt you are even paying that towards his school system, being that you live in a different state than him. Yeah, you do have a right to a say in the walmart thing, but no one would care what your opinion was there because it is so miniscule.
Hey, you're all for sticking up for the underdog, so maybe Wal-Mart should pay more attention to me. If his dress style distracts his fellow students, it shouldn't be allowed. Do you guys like Merry Go Rounds, because we are riding on one in this thread. I'm about to chunk the dueces on this thread, you guys will understand where I'm coming from at some point.
Originally posted by Thanatosx33 Originally posted by Xexima actually, I doubt you are even paying that towards his school system, being that you live in a different state than him. Yeah, you do have a right to a say in the walmart thing, but no one would care what your opinion was there because it is so miniscule.
Exactly, people take this whole tax thing and blow it out of proportion. I'd be worried about the fact that my money is going towards blowing up muslim countries rather then the fact its going towards schools that are producing a generation of people both smart and dumb that are going to hold the world up like they are right now one day. Zomg hes wearing eyeliner, WEAR IS MY TAX MONEY GOING?!!! more like, OMG OUR COUNTRY IS DESTROYING THE WORLD, AND IM PAYING FOR IT!!!! I bet you wouldn't think that tax system was so petty when you had to shell out hundreds a month to go to school. Just because it's a small amount split amongst a large group doesn't make the reality of it any less real.
If the president of the country taxed everyone a penny so he could buy a 40 foot mutant hooker, you would feel that you should have a right not to contribute to it...
I know you pay taxes, hell, even I pay taxes on everything I buy, but I don't know why anyone cares about what others are wearing. It doesn't distract people from their work ... so I don't know exactly where you are coming from. You could say it's because of the fact that you pay taxes, but what you pay going towards schooling is very miniscule.
Originally posted by modjoe86 Originally posted by masmunOriginally posted by modjoe86[He's making the decsion of what he does with his future and so do you, being closed minded is not a good thing, and besides grades in high school have no true meaning of what is learned and hardly prepares you for life. I know many descent jobs that have no care on what you where as long as its clothing and not showing everything off. you dont need college to make descent money either or have a good job. thats just a myth. even colleges get money from taxs as do most private schools its no where near the amount of public schools but they still get aid in some fashion. as far as the if the vp makes a rule it becomes policy, that is untrue it has to go to the school board and passed before their ruling body before it becomes policy, they are the top of the food chain in public schools, they are the ones who can overturn rulings set by the vp or principle. im glad your got a full ride and are going to college but dont stifle some one else because you where. I know people who have gone to college as well who end up working at comcast and doing what you say. it all depends on what you study and what the demand is when you get out. so good luck.We aren't living in Post WW2 America, bud. It's stiff competition to make money amongst people with college degrees nowadays. A college degree is about the equivalent to a High School diploma during our grandparent's generation.What do you consider a good job? I consider a good job one that allows me to drive a brand new car, live in a nice house, and have a closet full of suits, LeTigre, and Lacoste. If you can tell me where I can find this job without a Masters, please divulge your secret. a good job and pay is equivelant on cost of living for an area, if you can make before tax approx 75k in one yr thas a decent job and more depending on when you work. I have a job that pays me 35.00 an hr during the week and 100.00 an hr on the weekends. I have not taken any college classes outside of ones i did for fun. I have an out put of approx 2.5k a month in expenses and the rest is mine to do with as i wish. before this job i had another making 35k a yr but had 2/3 to 1/2 the cost of living but i went with the one that paid more and gave me a way to make more if i decided to, example is work on the weekends. they have no care on what i wear on my face or how many peircings i have or where my tattoos are placed. if you look you can find descent jobs with out the hassle of college and some of the hoops they have you jump thru. but if you can go to college im actually happy for you, yes it makes getting that descent job abit easier but not always a given. Thanks for coming up with an exception to my rule of thumb. I wasn't aware that a very very very small percentage of people with no degree make pretty good money. Thank you for the enlightenment. Maybe I should get out into the real world so I would be aware of these common sense kind of things...
its not as small as you might be lead to believe most cops do not have a degree and they make any where again depending on cost of living 35k to 75k starting (these are in the areas ive lived and worked myself not everywhere) most job postings (minus the medical and legal feilds) are for such and such degree or applicable experience. i truelly believe there needs to be testing done on some of the jobs, because both experience and a degree does not provided some one who may truelly know the job skills required. plus there is no need to become sarcastic with me im just providing counter points to what has been said.
Originally posted by Xexima I know you pay taxes, hell, even I pay taxes on everything I buy, but I don't know why anyone cares about what others are wearing. It doesn't distract people from their work ... so I don't know exactly where you are coming from.
So a man in a pink dress would not distract you? If you say no you are jsut being ignorant.
EDIT: and Masmun or wahtever the hell your name is. Use some god damn paragraphs.
Okay I'm currently in college (aircraft engineer) and have been in school for many many years, so hopefully I can offer some advice.
First of all, the most important thing to always remember is that you are in school to get an education. Your education should be your priority cause trust me, when high school ends, very very little of the other stuff matters.
Secondly, be a good friend. Studies have shown that the friends you have when you finish high school form the core of the group of friends you hang out with for life. I'm not saying you won't make new friends, but a 'high school buddy' is generally always higher on the totem pole than a 'work buddy'.
I don't know what your school's dress code is like. Just about every school has one in one form or another. If you wear school uniforms then yes they can probably tell you that eyeliner isn't allowed as part of the male uniform. If you don't wear uniforms, then they probably can't tell you what makeup you can or can't wear. As long as it doesn't disrupt class, or cause problems within the student body (like other students harassing you, or precipitating other students to think they can break the rules) then it should be fine. If it doesn't affect your grades or learning, it should be fine.
That being said, remember it's high school. Do you really want to try and start a civil rights battle over eyeliner in high school? If you win, you get to wear eyeliner, big woop. If you lose, you'll probably be punished for it. You need to weigh in how badly you want to wear eyeliner compared to what punishment you might recieve.
In the end, remember that it is a school and not a social club. But one thing you might try is say "I'll happily stop wearing eyeliner if you change the official dress code to say that males can't wear eyeliner." If they won't change it then you won, if they do change it, you still kinda won because you made them change the rules for you for something as petty as eyeliner. Also remember that they may be trying to prove their authority to the whole school now though. If they give in to you they may feel they would be seen as weak, and they need the students to respect them for them to do their jobs.
Also if they yell at you ask them why they are yelling. If they realize they are yelling at you when they don't need to, it makes them feel stupid. Just be like "Why are you yelling? I can hear you fine, is that really necessary?" If they say No they feel dumb, if they say Yes they might feel dumb anyways, they might be too angry and say something like "I'm trying to get it into your thick skull" in which case you can state (and be calm when you say it) "I"m not stupid" like they insulted you. Just make sure you play it cool because if they're overreacting and you're not, it makes them look immature. As well, if your principal is wagging his finger infront of your face, calmly say "Please don't stick your finger in my face" and take a step backwards. Then if he wants to keep doing it he has to move forward to you, which could be taken as a threatening gesture. Or if he's standing really close to you to try and intimidate you say "Please don't come into my personal space, it makes me uncomfortable". That may scare the shit out of him because when prinicpals hear that they think "Sexual Harassment" charges. Now they may just get really mad and push you or hit you for saying these things, but if they do they're toast and you'll win anyways (though you may have to take a shot to do it, heh).
"Because it's easier to nitpick something than to be constructive." -roach5000
Originally posted by Squitty Originally posted by Xexima I know you pay taxes, hell, even I pay taxes on everything I buy, but I don't know why anyone cares about what others are wearing. It doesn't distract people from their work ... so I don't know exactly where you are coming from.
So a man in a pink dress would not distract you? If you say no you are jsut being ignorant.
EDIT: and Masmun or wahtever the hell your name is. Use some god damn paragraphs.
There are bounderies. A guy coming to school in a pink dress is doing it for no other reason than to cause distraction. A guy wearing eyeliner or girl's pants is not doing it for that reason. I'm not saying that I agree with it, but that is the trend nowadays. IT DISTRACTS NO ONE.
Get used to it, the world isn't fair. I work in a professional office environment, the guys have to wear white shirts and ties, the women get to wear blue jeans, capris, sandals, or tennis shoes. Ever see a female attorney waltz in a conference 30 minutes late wearing tennis shoes and not even raise an eyebrow? I have. A male attorney would be admonished that this is a professional work environment. In the real world discrimination only applies to certain types of people, you are probably not one of them. And do not ever wear eyeliner, piercings, dyed hair, or show off your tattoos in a professional job interview. You can scream discrimnation from now til the cows come home, and there will be no one there to listen.
Remember the Golden Rule, them with the gold makes the rules. That is life....
There are bounderies. A guy coming to school in a pink dress is doing it for no other reason than to cause distraction. A guy wearing eyeliner or girl's pants is not doing it for that reason. I'm not saying that I agree with it, but that is the trend nowadays. IT DISTRACTS NO ONE.
You think a guy wearing girls pants/eyeliner is not doing it to attract attention?
Also, you cannot speak for everyone and say that no one is distracting by people dressing weird.
Also, you speak about these boundries, but who gets to choose them? You?
Originally posted by Squitty Originally posted by Xexima
There are bounderies. A guy coming to school in a pink dress is doing it for no other reason than to cause distraction. A guy wearing eyeliner or girl's pants is not doing it for that reason. I'm not saying that I agree with it, but that is the trend nowadays. IT DISTRACTS NO ONE.
You think a guy wearing girls pants/eyeliner is not doing it to attract attention?
Also, you cannot speak for everyone and say that no one is distracting by people dressing weird.
Also, you speak about these boundries, but who gets to choose them? You?
The students goint to the school at the time, not the teachers and principles that don't know what a trend is. It isn't to attract attention. It is just what people do.
I know that when you are working for people you should dress appropriately for that job, but in this case, the kids are not getting paid to be at school, we are forced by law to be there. At a job, if you don't like it, you can leave, we cannot just leave school.
You could argue that they are giving us free education, but it is forced onto us, against the will of some.
Originally posted by Xexima The students goint to the school at the time, not the teachers and principles that don't know what a trend is. It isn't to attract attention. It is just what people do.
The students!!! Are you insane? I can see it now:
"It is now mandatory for all girls to not wear tops."
And if you think that all this trendy dressing isn't to attract attention you are kidding yourself. The kids dress in a way that they think is "cool" at the time in hopes of being socially accpeted.
EDIT: and about that entire "forced to be at school" bullshit. Just leave. Youa re not forced to do anything in this world I guarantee it.
So who are you to decide what is socially acceptable? Times change, people change.
What I was saying about the students is that they know what is distracting or not, not the parents or the teachers. What I meant to say is ASK them if it is distracting, not just take it upon yourself to say that something is distracting or unacceptable when you don't know what students think.
lol, wrong, if it is a job you do not necessarily have the freedom to leave. Ask your dad, if he leaves his job you become homeless, and that feeling in your stomach is from hunger. Also, dad losses his pension. I make damn good money to put up with the bullshit I have to, and I am not about to become a greeter at Walmart. If I leave my job it is because someone is offering me more money, not because I have some siilly assed idea about rights. The purpose of the education system is to prepare you for dealing with the world after high school. That world is not fair, and doesn't care one damn bit whether you make it, or become just another pothole on the road of life. You want to work at Taco Bell making bean burritos the rest of your life, be my guest. Just don't whine to me, I'm telling you the way it is, forget your frigging rights and go with the flow. The man makes the rules and rewards those that follow them. That is the lesson.
And as for leaving school, the US is full of people that have dropped out of school, if you are so offended, be my guest, the world needs ditch diggers too.
Dealing with the consequences of your actions is called responsibility, and that prohibits you from leaving your job, understand? Freedom is freedom to starve, it is really not an option.
You guys should be able to wear eyeliner if you want, assuming you go to a public school and not a private one. Like you said, it doesn't violate any dress code. If you go to a public school and if everything you said is true you should totally take your story to the media/law, they will eat this story up and I'm pretty sure you'll win the battle and be allowed to wear eyeliner.
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And quite telling me about the "Real" world when you clearly have not had any experience in it.
And you know EVERYTHING about the "Real" world, because you've been living in it for what, 2 years?
We all live in this "real world." Just because I don't live in a trailor park with a bunch of low lifes doesn't mean I don't "know what the real world is like." Stop feeding me that shit.
Modjoe, it looks like you need a drink.
And I somewhat agree with you. People think that in order to experience the "real" world, we have to experience the "low life".
Yea, these people picked the wrong issue and the wrong day to start arguing with me.
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And quite telling me about the "Real" world when you clearly have not had any experience in it.
And you know EVERYTHING about the "Real" world, because you've been living in it for what, 2 years?
We all live in this "real world." Just because I don't live in a trailor park with a bunch of low lifes doesn't mean I don't "know what the real world is like." Stop feeding me that shit.
Modjoe, it looks like you need a drink.
And I somewhat agree with you. People think that in order to experience the "real" world, we have to experience the "low life".
Yea, these people picked the wrong issue and the wrong day to start arguing with me.
I'll have a drink for you.
Yep, people should know not to argue with you.
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And quite telling me about the "Real" world when you clearly have not had any experience in it.
And you know EVERYTHING about the "Real" world, because you've been living in it for what, 2 years?
We all live in this "real world." Just because I don't live in a trailor park with a bunch of low lifes doesn't mean I don't "know what the real world is like." Stop feeding me that shit.
Modjoe, it looks like you need a drink.
And I somewhat agree with you. People think that in order to experience the "real" world, we have to experience the "low life".
Yea, these people picked the wrong issue and the wrong day to start arguing with me.
I'll have a drink for you.
Great... now we'll be arguing with an angry drunk
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If his dress style distracts his fellow students, it shouldn't be allowed.
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I bet you wouldn't think that tax system was so petty when you had to shell out hundreds a month to go to school. Just because it's a small amount split amongst a large group doesn't make the reality of it any less real.
If the president of the country taxed everyone a penny so he could buy a 40 foot mutant hooker, you would feel that you should have a right not to contribute to it...
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its not as small as you might be lead to believe most cops do not have a degree and they make any where again depending on cost of living 35k to 75k starting (these are in the areas ive lived and worked myself not everywhere) most job postings (minus the medical and legal feilds) are for such and such degree or applicable experience. i truelly believe there needs to be testing done on some of the jobs, because both experience and a degree does not provided some one who may truelly know the job skills required. plus there is no need to become sarcastic with me im just providing counter points to what has been said.
EDIT: and Masmun or wahtever the hell your name is. Use some god damn paragraphs.
Okay I'm currently in college (aircraft engineer) and have been in school for many many years, so hopefully I can offer some advice.
First of all, the most important thing to always remember is that you are in school to get an education. Your education should be your priority cause trust me, when high school ends, very very little of the other stuff matters.
Secondly, be a good friend. Studies have shown that the friends you have when you finish high school form the core of the group of friends you hang out with for life. I'm not saying you won't make new friends, but a 'high school buddy' is generally always higher on the totem pole than a 'work buddy'.
I don't know what your school's dress code is like. Just about every school has one in one form or another. If you wear school uniforms then yes they can probably tell you that eyeliner isn't allowed as part of the male uniform. If you don't wear uniforms, then they probably can't tell you what makeup you can or can't wear. As long as it doesn't disrupt class, or cause problems within the student body (like other students harassing you, or precipitating other students to think they can break the rules) then it should be fine. If it doesn't affect your grades or learning, it should be fine.
That being said, remember it's high school. Do you really want to try and start a civil rights battle over eyeliner in high school? If you win, you get to wear eyeliner, big woop. If you lose, you'll probably be punished for it. You need to weigh in how badly you want to wear eyeliner compared to what punishment you might recieve.
In the end, remember that it is a school and not a social club. But one thing you might try is say "I'll happily stop wearing eyeliner if you change the official dress code to say that males can't wear eyeliner." If they won't change it then you won, if they do change it, you still kinda won because you made them change the rules for you for something as petty as eyeliner. Also remember that they may be trying to prove their authority to the whole school now though. If they give in to you they may feel they would be seen as weak, and they need the students to respect them for them to do their jobs.
Also if they yell at you ask them why they are yelling. If they realize they are yelling at you when they don't need to, it makes them feel stupid. Just be like "Why are you yelling? I can hear you fine, is that really necessary?" If they say No they feel dumb, if they say Yes they might feel dumb anyways, they might be too angry and say something like "I'm trying to get it into your thick skull" in which case you can state (and be calm when you say it) "I"m not stupid" like they insulted you. Just make sure you play it cool because if they're overreacting and you're not, it makes them look immature. As well, if your principal is wagging his finger infront of your face, calmly say "Please don't stick your finger in my face" and take a step backwards. Then if he wants to keep doing it he has to move forward to you, which could be taken as a threatening gesture. Or if he's standing really close to you to try and intimidate you say "Please don't come into my personal space, it makes me uncomfortable". That may scare the shit out of him because when prinicpals hear that they think "Sexual Harassment" charges. Now they may just get really mad and push you or hit you for saying these things, but if they do they're toast and you'll win anyways (though you may have to take a shot to do it, heh).
"Because it's easier to nitpick something than to be constructive." -roach5000
EDIT: and Masmun or wahtever the hell your name is. Use some god damn paragraphs.
There are bounderies. A guy coming to school in a pink dress is doing it for no other reason than to cause distraction. A guy wearing eyeliner or girl's pants is not doing it for that reason. I'm not saying that I agree with it, but that is the trend nowadays. IT DISTRACTS NO ONE.
Get used to it, the world isn't fair. I work in a professional office environment, the guys have to wear white shirts and ties, the women get to wear blue jeans, capris, sandals, or tennis shoes. Ever see a female attorney waltz in a conference 30 minutes late wearing tennis shoes and not even raise an eyebrow? I have. A male attorney would be admonished that this is a professional work environment. In the real world discrimination only applies to certain types of people, you are probably not one of them. And do not ever wear eyeliner, piercings, dyed hair, or show off your tattoos in a professional job interview. You can scream discrimnation from now til the cows come home, and there will be no one there to listen.
Remember the Golden Rule, them with the gold makes the rules. That is life....
You think a guy wearing girls pants/eyeliner is not doing it to attract attention?
Also, you cannot speak for everyone and say that no one is distracting by people dressing weird.
Also, you speak about these boundries, but who gets to choose them? You?
You think a guy wearing girls pants/eyeliner is not doing it to attract attention?
Also, you cannot speak for everyone and say that no one is distracting by people dressing weird.
Also, you speak about these boundries, but who gets to choose them? You?
The students goint to the school at the time, not the teachers and principles that don't know what a trend is. It isn't to attract attention. It is just what people do.
@olddaddy:
I know that when you are working for people you should dress appropriately for that job, but in this case, the kids are not getting paid to be at school, we are forced by law to be there. At a job, if you don't like it, you can leave, we cannot just leave school.
You could argue that they are giving us free education, but it is forced onto us, against the will of some.
"It is now mandatory for all girls to not wear tops."
And if you think that all this trendy dressing isn't to attract attention you are kidding yourself. The kids dress in a way that they think is "cool" at the time in hopes of being socially accpeted.
EDIT: and about that entire "forced to be at school" bullshit. Just leave. Youa re not forced to do anything in this world I guarantee it.
What I was saying about the students is that they know what is distracting or not, not the parents or the teachers. What I meant to say is ASK them if it is distracting, not just take it upon yourself to say that something is distracting or unacceptable when you don't know what students think.
When you are a little older you will understand.
lol, wrong, if it is a job you do not necessarily have the freedom to leave. Ask your dad, if he leaves his job you become homeless, and that feeling in your stomach is from hunger. Also, dad losses his pension. I make damn good money to put up with the bullshit I have to, and I am not about to become a greeter at Walmart. If I leave my job it is because someone is offering me more money, not because I have some siilly assed idea about rights. The purpose of the education system is to prepare you for dealing with the world after high school. That world is not fair, and doesn't care one damn bit whether you make it, or become just another pothole on the road of life. You want to work at Taco Bell making bean burritos the rest of your life, be my guest. Just don't whine to me, I'm telling you the way it is, forget your frigging rights and go with the flow. The man makes the rules and rewards those that follow them. That is the lesson.
And as for leaving school, the US is full of people that have dropped out of school, if you are so offended, be my guest, the world needs ditch diggers too.
Exactly, you may feel enslaved by your job, but you do have the right to leave. If we leave we get fines.
You guys should be able to wear eyeliner if you want, assuming you go to a public school and not a private one. Like you said, it doesn't violate any dress code. If you go to a public school and if everything you said is true you should totally take your story to the media/law, they will eat this story up and I'm pretty sure you'll win the battle and be allowed to wear eyeliner.