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This game is terrible, don't waste your time.
Juvante
Member Posts: 88
((Some Gameplay Areas))
Ok, after giving this game a chance so many times and even playing from open beta (not closed beta), i have to say its a very awful game. For a game to be in the making for 5 years means that it is not a clone of WoW because wow was released 2 years ago, so obviously it can't be a clone even though it does appear the same way in some of its UI and features. The gameplay is pretty much the same as in WoW, you run from point A to point B, kill X amount of Y and get Z item or B item from the reward guy. The game suffers from many cliche ideas sadly that worked 5 years ago but are boring and worn out today. People need something new, something interesting and exciting and not the same boring gameplay.
I started off in the dwarf area and did quests non stop so it does provide you with tons of content and stuff to do, but the stuff isn't very fun to do unfortunently. I've also tried all the other races out as well. Now, many will disagree with me about it being fun but i've tried grouping with people and going solo and either way its not fun. Not to mention the repeated comments of "Yawn, im bored" from other players. I played wow and other RPG's and this game got incredibly redundant because it felt like WoW and many other games i had played, the same feeling of being dragged through the game trying to get to the fun part.
If you think being someones errand boy or having to kill 15 wolves, 15 spiders and then go kill 15 goblins, and then go kill another 15 goblins because you missed a quest npc, is fun, you are a very boring person. Some of the quests are interactive with the npcs doing things with you but not all of them. Some quests require you to search out certain landmarks which is cool but nothing special. Deeds and traits are a nice addition but they are too limited, you can't equip very many even if you get to acquire a ton, so its nothing like the WoW talent trees, not even close. Reason i use that example is because i know alot of people have played WoW and can relate to what im saying. The deeds and trait system are a joke.
The story line quests are decent, they are a joke in the beginning and start to get harder once you start doing lonelands. They do scale well and get fun later on but the rest of the game suffers and the storyline part of the game doesn't make up for it. Not to mention the incredible amount of immature players and rude people, so trying to find good groups is next to impossible. Its very hard to find a minstrel since its not a very good solo class, not too many people play it and its the only main group healer, and not a very good healer at that from my experience with other minstrels, they keep telling me they hate the class, my healing sucks, yada yada i'm going to reroll a burglar, yada yada, etc.
Auction house system is identical to WoW but instead of people buying my stuff i get everything back in the mail, nobody uses it like they did in WoW. I am very skillful in using the auction house too but didn't seem to matter how good my prices were, nobody bothered with it. Guess it differs for servers, but when i asked other people on my server out of many people i asked, only a few ever really got much out of the auction house, and some just flat out stopped using it. Also, LOTRO has been invaded by Gold farmers, as always.
Music system is a nice addition, but only for those that know how to play music, if your not musically inclined, don't bother. You'll just sound incredibly stupid, like some child pressing random keys on a piano. I heard they are going to improve the music so you can compose it in a program and then upload it into your character but you still have to know how to compose it in the first place. Even if you take it off a website, its not as fun then if your were to make your own song.
You can smoke and make smoke rings with Pipeweed which is cool at first but gets boring fast, not much else with that area.
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((Player vs Monster in Monster Play))
Ok lets hit other areas, did i mention LOTRO has crappy and an incredibly poor Monster Play system planned out? In this game, PvP is an afterthought, not part of central game design, Turbine-a company that made Asherons Call, one of the most brutal PvP games ever, goes and becomes carebear. After 5 years in developement of LOTRO, they create a very small game world and ONE Monster Play zone which can only be used to full effect once all the players reach max level ( which is LEVEL 50!). So yes, PvP is an after thought and all Turbine cares about are the lore obsessed fan base. LOTRO is a player vs. environment game, PvE. So anyone who loves to roleplay and to become immersed into the story of tolkien will find this game satisfying from that aspect. Although don't get your hopes up because even if you are a tolkien fan, the gameplay isn't very fun. I've even heard alot of fans myself in the game said they are disappointed.
After making my first monster in monster play, which was a weaver, i went around doing quest after quest. The quest system in monster play is incredibly boring and redundant and takes a very long time with very small reward. You can repeat EVERY single quest you have done, which means you pretty much had no impact on the region at all, for example:
"Go kill the leader of the great bears, his name is Gold Head" So i got together a fellowship and made a raid myself, we kill Gold Head, there was much rejoicing. Then later i go back to the NPC that gave me the quest a long time ago.
QUEST AVAILABLE, GOLD HEAD MUST DIE. I'm like what the hell? LOL
Thats pathetic poor game design. They have to make every quest repeatable just to give you something to do because it was so poorly planned out that there would be no other way for you to get destiny points, which are used to improve your monster character.
Also, monster play is VERY IMBALANCED. Hero classes and players are way stronger then any monster character could be, which would make sense from a lore point of view, but not a fun gameplay decision. Also, hero classes have 80% more character abilities and skills then monster players do. I talked with a very active hero player named Silens, he told me he had 70.3% evade chance and other things as well, hes a burglar (rogue) or w/e. He can vanish twice and its pretty much impossible to kill him. Hes already rank 4 because hes been feasting off the fresh monster players. Monster players dont even have 20% evade, not even close. Now, if you were to get higher ranked as a monster you could probably do much better, but getting to that point is the problem. We had a raid of 25 monster players and we got wiped by a a hero group of only 16. Mainly because the players were so stupid and they wouldn't charge the enemy and kept running, but even if you were to attack someone they'd survive because of the massive amount of healing heros can do vs monster players.
Monster players have only one healing class, the war leader. The hero classes have a loremaster, minstrel and captain that all can do healing. Guardians have a self heal and so do burglars. Pretty much they all do. Monsters can't heal themselves and have to rely on War leaders, so they end up getting wiped first and then we all die. Not balanced and maybe it wasn't suppose to be, because from one hero players comment, "you monster players are here for OUR AMUSEMENT". LOL right.
In my honest opinion, a good MMO has both a great PvE (AKA a great story and a great player vs environment aspect to the game) and a great Player vs Player aspect. Without one, its a one sided game and it gets boring, its like missing 1/2 of yourself. Could World of Warcraft have been as successful and lived so long if it had only PvP or only PvE? No, it had both and it did both well up until Blizzard started to rot from inside and not produce good content anymore, but WoW had potential. Enough of WoW though.
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((Raids))
Even though i never got to try out the raid content of the game i heard that it was nothing special, more or less the same thing from WoW but with 24 people for raids and not 40. So expect it to be more accessible with your smaller guilds and so on but same gameplay. They are even releasing a new raid called Helogrod tomorrow on Wednesday June 13th, 2007 for the new free content update "Shores of Evendim".
Getting gear and all that will probably follow the same philosophy of grind till you complete your set armor, or they will probably make quests, not too knowledgeable on this area.
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((Sound and Music))
OMG, the music is so redundant and annoying, i have it on mute while i play background music, at first the music is very pleasant and fits well but as it just keeps droning on and on and on, it gets unbearable. Does not give you that epic feel it should but just annoys you. They could have added a new soundtrack or multiple soundtracks per zone, but they decided to add only ONE for each particular zone, which gets incredibly annoying.
When you engage in combat it plays a combat tune and then it stops, it gets annoying when you one shot a mob and it keeps turning the combat music on and then off within a second. And its not different combat music but the same music every time. Throughout the entire game, the same tune, drums. Not very imaginative.
Some of the player sounds get annoying as well, like the captains/minstrel shout, you ever been in a raid with 10+ captains/minstrels? And having them shout nonstop? Omg, AHHHH.....AHHHH...AHHHH.....AHHHHH....and another AHHHHH, ok good they stopped...AHHHHH...AHHHHHH....and again AHHHHH ....AHHHHH. Im like F this, and i turn the sound off. They sound really lame too, its not like a morale boosting yell or something that makes you feel like "HELL YEA LETS DO THIS" kind of feeling, its just like...dude...shutup.
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((Graphics))
Ok the graphics for the world of LOTRO is very impressive and is probably the biggest plus for LOTRO. Its something that really adds to the players immersion of the game because he gets to explore tolkiens world in a very detailed game. The only drawback is the lackluster characters and the monsters, armor, weapons, all of those avatars and things look very boring and bland. Nobody has anyway to make themselves look unique except maybe to dye their armor but that doesnt change much because of the design of the armor/weapons or character itself.
For example, i could wear a chainmail armor suit that is lvl 8, ok? Then when i hit lvl 20, i had basically the same armor design except for a different hat, it had a blue feather popping out of it, so i looked slightly different but not really. Turbine really didn't spend too much time with it. Since its already designed like that, don't expect them to change it, your going to have to live with it.
They said they are going to add armor sets, but those are high lvl armor sets and its pretty much only end game stuff, raid etc, so don't get your hopes up.
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((Bugs and Misc))
Even though Turbine claims they made a bug-free release, they are very wrong. They have things that pop out at you as you play the game, its different for everyone and you'll have to figure it out for yourself. They range from pretty much every bug you can think of, a quest npc not working, a mob in a dungeon not appearing and starting the encounter, you getting stuck in a dungeon, mobs glitching on a environmental object, all kind of things that get annoying which Turbine boldly claims to not have, when they do.
Theres even a very well known bug in Monster Play which triggers when your monster gets killed by a hero player, your armor breaks and it reduces down to 6 armor and the only way to fix it is to /spar with a fellow monster player and have him decline to fix your armor, pretty retarded don't you think?
Ok this has gotten very long and im going to end it, all in all LOTRO has not made any breakthroughs for a online game, they brought out a very unfinished world of Tolkien after 5 years in the making, a not very much to show for it. A very unsatisfying and boring game which appeals to many players im sure, but many people are very easily amused and have different outlooks on things. Your never going to agree on the same thing. So i hope this helped deter some people from buying this game and wasting your hard earned cash because your better off buying a console and playing those games or waiting for Darkfall Online or Warhammer online in Q1 of 2008, then wasting your money and time on this very pathetic game.
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You all have a good day.
Ok, after giving this game a chance so many times and even playing from open beta (not closed beta), i have to say its a very awful game. For a game to be in the making for 5 years means that it is not a clone of WoW because wow was released 2 years ago, so obviously it can't be a clone even though it does appear the same way in some of its UI and features. The gameplay is pretty much the same as in WoW, you run from point A to point B, kill X amount of Y and get Z item or B item from the reward guy. The game suffers from many cliche ideas sadly that worked 5 years ago but are boring and worn out today. People need something new, something interesting and exciting and not the same boring gameplay.
I started off in the dwarf area and did quests non stop so it does provide you with tons of content and stuff to do, but the stuff isn't very fun to do unfortunently. I've also tried all the other races out as well. Now, many will disagree with me about it being fun but i've tried grouping with people and going solo and either way its not fun. Not to mention the repeated comments of "Yawn, im bored" from other players. I played wow and other RPG's and this game got incredibly redundant because it felt like WoW and many other games i had played, the same feeling of being dragged through the game trying to get to the fun part.
If you think being someones errand boy or having to kill 15 wolves, 15 spiders and then go kill 15 goblins, and then go kill another 15 goblins because you missed a quest npc, is fun, you are a very boring person. Some of the quests are interactive with the npcs doing things with you but not all of them. Some quests require you to search out certain landmarks which is cool but nothing special. Deeds and traits are a nice addition but they are too limited, you can't equip very many even if you get to acquire a ton, so its nothing like the WoW talent trees, not even close. Reason i use that example is because i know alot of people have played WoW and can relate to what im saying. The deeds and trait system are a joke.
The story line quests are decent, they are a joke in the beginning and start to get harder once you start doing lonelands. They do scale well and get fun later on but the rest of the game suffers and the storyline part of the game doesn't make up for it. Not to mention the incredible amount of immature players and rude people, so trying to find good groups is next to impossible. Its very hard to find a minstrel since its not a very good solo class, not too many people play it and its the only main group healer, and not a very good healer at that from my experience with other minstrels, they keep telling me they hate the class, my healing sucks, yada yada i'm going to reroll a burglar, yada yada, etc.
Auction house system is identical to WoW but instead of people buying my stuff i get everything back in the mail, nobody uses it like they did in WoW. I am very skillful in using the auction house too but didn't seem to matter how good my prices were, nobody bothered with it. Guess it differs for servers, but when i asked other people on my server out of many people i asked, only a few ever really got much out of the auction house, and some just flat out stopped using it. Also, LOTRO has been invaded by Gold farmers, as always.
Music system is a nice addition, but only for those that know how to play music, if your not musically inclined, don't bother. You'll just sound incredibly stupid, like some child pressing random keys on a piano. I heard they are going to improve the music so you can compose it in a program and then upload it into your character but you still have to know how to compose it in the first place. Even if you take it off a website, its not as fun then if your were to make your own song.
You can smoke and make smoke rings with Pipeweed which is cool at first but gets boring fast, not much else with that area.
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((Player vs Monster in Monster Play))
Ok lets hit other areas, did i mention LOTRO has crappy and an incredibly poor Monster Play system planned out? In this game, PvP is an afterthought, not part of central game design, Turbine-a company that made Asherons Call, one of the most brutal PvP games ever, goes and becomes carebear. After 5 years in developement of LOTRO, they create a very small game world and ONE Monster Play zone which can only be used to full effect once all the players reach max level ( which is LEVEL 50!). So yes, PvP is an after thought and all Turbine cares about are the lore obsessed fan base. LOTRO is a player vs. environment game, PvE. So anyone who loves to roleplay and to become immersed into the story of tolkien will find this game satisfying from that aspect. Although don't get your hopes up because even if you are a tolkien fan, the gameplay isn't very fun. I've even heard alot of fans myself in the game said they are disappointed.
After making my first monster in monster play, which was a weaver, i went around doing quest after quest. The quest system in monster play is incredibly boring and redundant and takes a very long time with very small reward. You can repeat EVERY single quest you have done, which means you pretty much had no impact on the region at all, for example:
"Go kill the leader of the great bears, his name is Gold Head" So i got together a fellowship and made a raid myself, we kill Gold Head, there was much rejoicing. Then later i go back to the NPC that gave me the quest a long time ago.
QUEST AVAILABLE, GOLD HEAD MUST DIE. I'm like what the hell? LOL
Thats pathetic poor game design. They have to make every quest repeatable just to give you something to do because it was so poorly planned out that there would be no other way for you to get destiny points, which are used to improve your monster character.
Also, monster play is VERY IMBALANCED. Hero classes and players are way stronger then any monster character could be, which would make sense from a lore point of view, but not a fun gameplay decision. Also, hero classes have 80% more character abilities and skills then monster players do. I talked with a very active hero player named Silens, he told me he had 70.3% evade chance and other things as well, hes a burglar (rogue) or w/e. He can vanish twice and its pretty much impossible to kill him. Hes already rank 4 because hes been feasting off the fresh monster players. Monster players dont even have 20% evade, not even close. Now, if you were to get higher ranked as a monster you could probably do much better, but getting to that point is the problem. We had a raid of 25 monster players and we got wiped by a a hero group of only 16. Mainly because the players were so stupid and they wouldn't charge the enemy and kept running, but even if you were to attack someone they'd survive because of the massive amount of healing heros can do vs monster players.
Monster players have only one healing class, the war leader. The hero classes have a loremaster, minstrel and captain that all can do healing. Guardians have a self heal and so do burglars. Pretty much they all do. Monsters can't heal themselves and have to rely on War leaders, so they end up getting wiped first and then we all die. Not balanced and maybe it wasn't suppose to be, because from one hero players comment, "you monster players are here for OUR AMUSEMENT". LOL right.
In my honest opinion, a good MMO has both a great PvE (AKA a great story and a great player vs environment aspect to the game) and a great Player vs Player aspect. Without one, its a one sided game and it gets boring, its like missing 1/2 of yourself. Could World of Warcraft have been as successful and lived so long if it had only PvP or only PvE? No, it had both and it did both well up until Blizzard started to rot from inside and not produce good content anymore, but WoW had potential. Enough of WoW though.
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((Raids))
Even though i never got to try out the raid content of the game i heard that it was nothing special, more or less the same thing from WoW but with 24 people for raids and not 40. So expect it to be more accessible with your smaller guilds and so on but same gameplay. They are even releasing a new raid called Helogrod tomorrow on Wednesday June 13th, 2007 for the new free content update "Shores of Evendim".
Getting gear and all that will probably follow the same philosophy of grind till you complete your set armor, or they will probably make quests, not too knowledgeable on this area.
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((Sound and Music))
OMG, the music is so redundant and annoying, i have it on mute while i play background music, at first the music is very pleasant and fits well but as it just keeps droning on and on and on, it gets unbearable. Does not give you that epic feel it should but just annoys you. They could have added a new soundtrack or multiple soundtracks per zone, but they decided to add only ONE for each particular zone, which gets incredibly annoying.
When you engage in combat it plays a combat tune and then it stops, it gets annoying when you one shot a mob and it keeps turning the combat music on and then off within a second. And its not different combat music but the same music every time. Throughout the entire game, the same tune, drums. Not very imaginative.
Some of the player sounds get annoying as well, like the captains/minstrel shout, you ever been in a raid with 10+ captains/minstrels? And having them shout nonstop? Omg, AHHHH.....AHHHH...AHHHH.....AHHHHH....and another AHHHHH, ok good they stopped...AHHHHH...AHHHHHH....and again AHHHHH ....AHHHHH. Im like F this, and i turn the sound off. They sound really lame too, its not like a morale boosting yell or something that makes you feel like "HELL YEA LETS DO THIS" kind of feeling, its just like...dude...shutup.
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((Graphics))
Ok the graphics for the world of LOTRO is very impressive and is probably the biggest plus for LOTRO. Its something that really adds to the players immersion of the game because he gets to explore tolkiens world in a very detailed game. The only drawback is the lackluster characters and the monsters, armor, weapons, all of those avatars and things look very boring and bland. Nobody has anyway to make themselves look unique except maybe to dye their armor but that doesnt change much because of the design of the armor/weapons or character itself.
For example, i could wear a chainmail armor suit that is lvl 8, ok? Then when i hit lvl 20, i had basically the same armor design except for a different hat, it had a blue feather popping out of it, so i looked slightly different but not really. Turbine really didn't spend too much time with it. Since its already designed like that, don't expect them to change it, your going to have to live with it.
They said they are going to add armor sets, but those are high lvl armor sets and its pretty much only end game stuff, raid etc, so don't get your hopes up.
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((Bugs and Misc))
Even though Turbine claims they made a bug-free release, they are very wrong. They have things that pop out at you as you play the game, its different for everyone and you'll have to figure it out for yourself. They range from pretty much every bug you can think of, a quest npc not working, a mob in a dungeon not appearing and starting the encounter, you getting stuck in a dungeon, mobs glitching on a environmental object, all kind of things that get annoying which Turbine boldly claims to not have, when they do.
Theres even a very well known bug in Monster Play which triggers when your monster gets killed by a hero player, your armor breaks and it reduces down to 6 armor and the only way to fix it is to /spar with a fellow monster player and have him decline to fix your armor, pretty retarded don't you think?
Ok this has gotten very long and im going to end it, all in all LOTRO has not made any breakthroughs for a online game, they brought out a very unfinished world of Tolkien after 5 years in the making, a not very much to show for it. A very unsatisfying and boring game which appeals to many players im sure, but many people are very easily amused and have different outlooks on things. Your never going to agree on the same thing. So i hope this helped deter some people from buying this game and wasting your hard earned cash because your better off buying a console and playing those games or waiting for Darkfall Online or Warhammer online in Q1 of 2008, then wasting your money and time on this very pathetic game.
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You all have a good day.
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Dont know about being banned for a day, but you should be banned from the internet .
Oh and by the way calling people fags is offensive,but I guess you already know that as your so mature, yes ?
So you got a 1 day ban and decided to come here and make an account just to post how bad the game is? I think someone is just angry that they got in trouble.
In America I have bad teeth. If I lived in England my teeth would be perfect.
(im not a fan of lotr and i was bored in beta before it even went retail, but its a good pve rpg game if thats what your into)
I think its retarded that games ban people for language.....filters filter out bad language and unless you are actively bypassing the filter via fa..g or something like that there is no need for a ban ever.
Own, Mine, Defend, Attack, 24/7
Sheesh, oh the irony... You sound like some of the tools I meet in alot of MMO's nowadays
Few other notes...
The community is what you make of it. Stating that people you come across are immature and hostile is kind of a null point. You go outside and are around the public aren't you? Is hostility and immaturity a new thing to you?
The trait system is designed to be added onto. In this upcoming patch they are adding new ones. Granted there are a limited amount of traits at this time but that's guranteed to change.
You found the combat boring in beta but you decided to go retail? That's nobodies fault but your own. You already had a negative opinion of the game... why would you purchase it?
I'm a traditional powergamer but I went into lotro knowing that I would need to curb it. The game was just released and has some very nice features on the horizon. If what they offer now isn't enough, try back later or "Move along".
Were you even around for the beginning of WOW? There was no pvp system at all. There was world pvp without a purpose. Care to comment?
Its tough where to know where different companies draw the line on offensive behaviour/language. But I am afraid to say in your situation that 'fag' does constitute a sexual swearword so most companies would offer and ban or warning for using it in open chat, or indeed, in private chat.
Sadly, you were provoked by some immature fools and there is no way to ban them instead.
This is just not true. PVP WoW servers had rampant pvp. The battlegrounds weren't in, so there was no instanced PVP. True, there were no rewards, other then claiming an area to your faction, but it was there and rampant. City raids happened daily on my server. In fact, rewards slowed down world pvp for a bit when negative points were given for killing npc's.
This is just not true. PVP WoW servers had rampant pvp. The battlegrounds weren't in, so there was no instanced PVP. True, there were no rewards, other then claiming an area to your faction, but it was there and rampant. City raids happened daily on my server. In fact, rewards slowed down world pvp for a bit when negative points were given for killing npc's.
I know it's a lot but read all three sentences I posted.
I said there was no pvp sysytem.
I said there was world pvp but it had no purpose.
hmm come to think of it, AC2 and LOTR are the same engine, the turbine 2.. same as DDO..
but unfrontuately most people hold wow as the standard, without realising their whole game is unoriginal... The raid structure is EQ..
Ahh well.. i guess you can't expect everyone to know the truth..
vaedur
first off let me complement you on your review. i really like it. you talked about everything from graphics to gameplay. this is really good you should write reviews in magazines or somthin.
now what i think about this game is this. it is pretty much a basic mmo with a lotr theme on it. nothin special or anything. it aint the best i dont know how it got up to be number one currently on this site. maybe cause its new or alot of lotr fans on this site i dont know. their are better mmo's out there. now if your a hardcore lotr fan i guess you can try it out. but if your just lookin for a good mmo dont get this game. if you want a good mmo wait till age of conan comes out. if your lookin for a subscription free mmo thats good wait till guildwars 2 comes out.
"must be some irritated kiddie" "must be one of those tools i meet" "must be some yada yada yada" " yea, hes a hypcrite, yada yada yada"
Ok, when i make a post on a review for the game, i don't make a review because i got baned. I make a review because i want to save people time and money, and i also want to send a message that people want better quality games. We need more interesting ideas, better quest systems, better design. Thats not bad to ask for. I detailed the game in my review, i stated the truth from my perspective and other players perspective in the game, and you don't have to agree but i am no way being immature and posting this because i got baned.
The people i called names were 110% a holes and they deserved it, it was barrens chat times 100,000. I did put them on ignore and was going to leave it but i got baned later on that night because of what i said to them, i called them idiots and fags, maybe i shouldn't have said fags but when your angry you don't always make the right choices, and so later that night i got baned. I didn't do anything after that and i had them on ignore. You need to be careful about your assumptions. You also need to post better reasons as to why i am wrong about this review, instead of just mocking me and assuming that im just a kid. Or else your points really don't weigh anything and your not proving me wrong.
Have a good one.
Oh and another thing, i did play beta but not closed beta, i played the open beta which let you get you character to lvl 15 and i thought it was decent but as i played it more after i bought it and got farther in the game, my opinion changed. Which is why i come here to give people this information to help them so they don't make a mistake.
You seem to compare this game to Warcraft in your review so I will do the same.
-Stability and performance of the game engine is top notch. Same applies for warcraft (as it should 2 years later).
-Graphics and environment are extremely detailed. Same applies to warcraft but on a much lower scale.
-Easiest mmo to adapt to. Tips and information for everything. No wondering what a skill or item can and does do. This was not the same for warcraft on release, nor was it for quite some time.
-Game music is not something I particularly enjoy so I won't comment. Both games did a good job, lotro pulling out ahead because of their user created music system. And some people like sitting around looking incredibly stupid playing their music. That might be their idea of fun.... but don't let me stop you from criticizing it.
-Quest system in lotro beats warcraft's without a doubt in my mind. Lotro quests have a purpose. You have your typical kill this, go here, and do this quests but at least they aren't solely for XP and money. Can't say the same for warcraft.
-Auction houses in both games are great. Nothing to gripe about. ( if people don't want your items, try a different strategy? or better yet, blame the game?
-Smoking pipeweed is fun but gets boring? Is it supposed to entertain you for hours? Did you jump up and down for hours on your night elf? Don't lie!
-The pvp system is not imbalanced as you say it is. I play it regularly. There will always need to be changes but most are just Opinions. Have you ever attempted to take down a warleader? Have you ever seen a reaver heal himself? Probably not. Have you noticed the supply vendor for monsters sells healing potions, energy potions, root breaking potions, stun/dizzy breaking potions, and tracking items? Considering you have no other use for money it might be a good idea to buy these. Maybe you are there for their amusement but I kick some serious ass on my monster as do many others. Warcraft has a better pvp system now but they had nothing in comparison to lotro having monsterplay on release. Open world pvp was fun but there was ZERO GAIN to it. Half the time you spent killing people in one area just so more would show up.
-The character models aren't spectacular in Lotro but I appreciate that now more than ever when I engage in largescale pvp battles. Warcraft models are colorful, end of story.
-Bugs? Seriously, this is where I might have the most problem with your review. I've never had your armor bug in monsterplay. I've never heard of your armor bug in monsterplay. If it is an issue it just surfaced. I've never had any quest bugs or npcs not being in their proper locations. I'd really like you to give some examples of where this happened so I can submit it. I'll also note that this was not the case for warcraft.
I'm sorry if I offended you. Good. Your rant doesn't deserve to be called a review IMO.
First off, i only made a few comparisons to WoW because WoW was a very successful game and had similarities. I also did it because many people played it and it was a good game to use for an example in explaining things.
You also don't have to consider my post a review, and your opinion is entirely up to you, but opinion is not fact. Its just your opinion.
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Yes, stability in terms of playing the game is good but thats not the problem, its a boring game. So no matter how long you play it, you will still get bored.
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Yes, i said the game world was very detailed in my post, they did a good job on the graphics for the environment but not for avatars or weapons/armor. Which is disappointing.
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Lotro quest system is identical to WoW's quest system, the only difference your feeling is the beautiful environment that WoW never had, WoW was cartoony. The things you do in the quest system in LOTRO are identical though and are fun at times for some players because of the way it looks and feels. However, this quickly gets old because of the repetitive feel of the quests repeating region to region, the same kind of quest. Kill X amount of this, go get this for me because im too lazy to do it myself quest, protect Y and escort Z to B.
One of the things you should be looking at this Christmas is Warhammer Online
LOTRO quest system is cliche and old, and a worn out way to do it. We need better.
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Auction house only works if the players make it work, and myself and many others got hardly anything out of it. And i am very good at using auction houses but to no avail. So its all based on player experiences.
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Did i jump around as a Night elf for hours and hours?
To prove one of your points you mock me? That doesn't prove a point that just makes you look childish and stupid. No, i never did that.
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Monster play is unbalanced, i played it for a while now. You get to use alot of potions and food, but they cost quite a bit of money. The tracking items only track one type of race, hobbit, dwarf or any of the others based on what monster your playing. They cost 100+ silver and are a one time use, and if you use the item when your not around players, instead of giving you a tracking buff it just gets used up and disappears.
Its very difficult to advance your monster especially since your so underpowered compared to a hero player.
Monsters have no where near the amount of skills/abilities that players do and are always going to be at a severe disadvantage.
Reavers don't have a very good heal, the main healers are war leaders. The war leaders always get taken out first by ranged hero players.
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You are satisfied with the character models when you engage in large scale battles, what does that have to do with anything? So your just saying, your going to be complacent and accept poor character avatars, yes, thats what your saying isn't it?
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Yes there are bugs in LOTRO, every game has bugs and yes many players not just me had the Monster play armor bug.
There is also a lot of flawed, but often repeated, criticism, which is a trademark of commentary by someone pretending to have a lot more first hand experience with the game than they actually do.
No game is for everyone and I'm sure a number of people will find this game not to be their thing, but these intellectually dishonest critiques are worthless for people considering the game.
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Agreed, 3 posts in total for the OP... and this one is just a huge rant with things that are either not true or things that occur in EVERY MMO to date.
Most amusing. Kinda long winded though, i'm sure he popped some prozac after writing it =] and as soon as people say "i was in beta" i switch off in rants, because they're usually lying or trying to make out they know what they're talking about.
retail is what matters, not the open beta which everybody could play *yawns*
Based on this guy and Chihiahua69's post I would say WoW must be losing subscribtions at an alarming rate. I just can't believe Blizzard would stoop to using Viral Marketing like McQuaid and friends. Two brand new forum members and both post crap reviews of LotRO as their first post, coincidence?
The rest of the community here should just ignore anymore posts made by Juvante and Chiahuahia69 since they are so fantasticaly biased. We can watch their threads die slow agonizing horrible deaths.
In America I have bad teeth. If I lived in England my teeth would be perfect.
I have nothing against this game, i'm not in a conspiracy against Turbine. I'm warning everyone ahead of time to save them their hard earned cash and time. It is not a worthwhile game and there are going to be fantastic games coming out on console games like Xbox 360 and Darkfall Online or Warhammer Online, Age of Conan as well, i suggest to everyone to check these games out for they are much better from the looks of things and are much more up to date with new ideas and different approaches to MMO's.
Make the right choice, or your welcome to find out the truth yourself after you have spent countless hours and thrown $50 down the toilet
What I feel is lacking in Lotro is a ability to achieve multiple outcomes to a single mission. That would be awesome! Eventually that will arrive. Until then Ill be playing Mmorpg as they are. Progress is being made. Will us revolting against a game make the process go faster? Maybe... I personally feel bad degrading a game which I like though hehe. Well anyways back to work
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My opinion about armor/weapons and monsters etc for the graphics ring true. They spent 90% more time with the environment then they did with the character and avatar design. Everyone looks the same, and they look poor.
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Auction House, again, all depends on the server and my server sucked. I tried another server to start over and auction house was the same. So it was very difficult to make money and other players also said it was as well, so i knew it wasn't just me.
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Lol no i did not roll a Night Elf, i hated those people running around Ironforge lol.
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A hundred silver is nothing to a monster, ok....so your one of those people that likes to grind for money and sit there for hours getting drops? I sold all my loot and got 356 silver, ok? Then it went pretty quick, and it took me awhile to get that money again, food is overly expensive as well.
If the loot drops were more valuable then i wouldn't complain, but they are crap value and the vendor items cost alot.
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Maybe on your server the players are so dumb that even with over 30 abilities they can't kill you, im sorry your difficulty level for your server is set to "Very Easy", but on my server we have incredibly skillful hero's that cream us because our characters are too weak and poorly designed. We also have crap healing compared to them.
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No its not opinion when the only way to advance your character is to kill a player and get rank through infamy pts. The players are at a huge advantage and a fresh monster player doesnt stand a chance unless hes fighting a dumb player. Monsters don't have enough abilities and they are underpowered.
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