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What’s the story for us “casuals”?

I’ve seen some, but not much on this subject. Hopefully one of you beta testers could answer it. I believe I speak for most casual players when I say that we are the group of people who don’t want to “live” a game and have it totally encompass our lives, but just play to have fun. We don’t play 24/7, but fit our game time in after playing the much more interesting game called real life. 

Anyway, is WAR the type of game where you don’t stand a chance unless you play until your eyes bleed for months on end in order to obtain the most uber leet gear so you can pwn the latest noobs? Or is it the type of game where someone who has a life can come into the game to have some fun PVP action and actually contribute to the battles going on?

 

If it’s the former, I won’t be a lasting subscriber. While I know there is a market for that type of game, it’s one I will not be playing. If it’s the later, they’ll have my money for many months to come.
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  • DataDayDataDay Member UncommonPosts: 1,538
    Originally posted by Centhan


    I’ve seen some, but not much on this subject. Hopefully one of you beta testers could answer it. I believe I speak for most casual players when I say that we are the group of people who don’t want to “live” a game and have it totally encompass our lives, but just play to have fun. We don’t play 24/7, but fit our game time in after playing the much more interesting game called real life. 
    Anyway, is WAR the type of game where you don’t stand a chance unless you play until your eyes bleed for months on end in order to obtain the most uber leet gear so you can pwn the latest noobs? Or is it the type of game where someone who has a life can come into the game to have some fun PVP action and actually contribute to the battles going on?
     
    If it’s the former, I won’t be a lasting subscriber. While I know there is a market for that type of game, it’s one I will not be playing. If it’s the later, they’ll have my money for many months to come.

     

    This is the problem I have with casual players. They assume they should have everything available to them without working for it, and those that work for it there for have no life. The problem with this mentality is its no different than a kid crying about how "its not fair" and "i want it nowwwww".

    The problem with Casual players is they want instant gratification and hate it when rpgs allow for more work = more reward. The problem is you people are playing the wrong genre and expecting the wrong things in regards to that genre.

    Casual players are the cancer of the gaming industry, they help provide fun instant action games but at the same time end up causing rpgs to be dumbed down and fps's as well as some other games to be made shorter rather than drawn out.

    WAR will allow you have your action, but you still have to work for what you achieve. Those who work more will achieve more.

    Dont like it? Play a different genre.

  • AxumAxum Member Posts: 891

    You will have just as much fun playing 5 hours a week, compared to someone who plays 20 hours a week.

     

    You will progress slower, but all items are easily available to you.

     

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  • DameonkDameonk Member UncommonPosts: 1,914

    WAR is probably the most casual friendly MMO I have seen recently.

    I assume when you are speaking about not standing a chance you are talking about RvR.  Luckily, WAR is very well balanced and dependant mostly on levels + a little on gear.  As long as you have decent gear (quest or PQ loot) you will do fine in RvR.  Plus there is a nice feature that if you are below the cap for a scenario the game will give you a buff to increase your HP, defense, and damage.

    For example.  If you are level 5, and join a scenario you will have the base HP, defense, and damage of a level 8 character.  It's not much, but it helps to get into the fray sooner.

    "There is as yet insufficient data for a meaningful answer."

  • shukes33shukes33 Member Posts: 1,051

    Dont make the mistake of thinking that casual means lazy. it doesn't! i'm a casual player who played eq for 8 years and worked harder than most to get where i did. casual does not mean you want it all without working for it, i wouldn't mind needing 2 weeks to kill 1000 lesser demons to get the same item that a 12 year old who sat at his pc for 10 hours in a raid and did nothing other than get lucky on an item.

  • TeimanTeiman Member Posts: 1,319

    You can create 1 characer in 1 minute.

    Has son you enter the map, click "Enter battleground".

    You first quest, or 2 th quest will ding you to level 2.

    Then the battleground will start.

    As level 2, you will still be able to kill people and have fun, because the game will autolevel you to 8 for the battleground.

    This mean, in something like  3 minutes, you will be kicking ass of other players.

    Theres no other MMO where in 3 minutes you can be doing quest AND pvp AND exploring, etc..

    WAR excels at casuals, IMHO.

    Anyway...  IANC YMMV.

     

  • GuileGuile Member Posts: 37
    Originally posted by Teiman


    You can create 1 characer in 1 minute.
    Has son you enter the map, click "Enter battleground".
    You first quest, or 2 th quest will ding you to level 2.
    Then the battleground will start.
    As level 2, you will still be able to kill people and have fun, because the game will autolevel you to 8 for the battleground.
    This mean, in something like  3 minutes, you will be kicking ass of other players.
    Theres no other MMO where in 3 minutes you can be doing quest AND pvp AND exploring, etc..
    WAR excels at casuals, IMHO.
    Anyway...  IANC YMMV.
     



     

    Wow, is this true? If so, that sounds amazing... really can't wait to play it now.

  • DameonkDameonk Member UncommonPosts: 1,914
    Originally posted by Teiman



    As level 2, you will still be able to kill people and have fun, because the game will autolevel you to 8 for the battleground.
    This mean, in something like  3 minutes, you will be kicking ass of other players. 

     

    This is... kind of true.

    If you are a healer, or the other side is also a bunch of pre-level 10 characters you should do fine, but if you are fighting against people maxed for the tier (11 I believe) then you will most certainely get frustrated from not being able to compete. 

    There is still a huge difference between 11 and 8 and even more of a difference between a true level 11 and a level 2 character that's buffed to 8.

    The extra skills and better gear make a pretty big difference.

    "There is as yet insufficient data for a meaningful answer."

  • DataDayDataDay Member UncommonPosts: 1,538
    Originally posted by shukes33


    Dont make the mistake of thinking that casual means lazy. it doesn't! i'm a casual player who played eq for 8 years and worked harder than most to get where i did. casual does not mean you want it all without working for it, i wouldn't mind needing 2 weeks to kill 1000 lesser demons to get the same item that a 12 year old who sat at his pc for 10 hours in a raid and did nothing other than get lucky on an item.

     

    No a "casual" player is someone who believes that if someone else can achieve what they cannot achieve just as fast, and/or feel that if they sit down for 1 hour that they should be able to accomplish much. They feel that anyone who works hard for a "rare" item or what not, there for has NO LIFE.

    I dont have much time to play myself, but i do not consider myself a casual player because i am not bothered if someone has better gear than me if they worked for it, i am not bothered if there is a quest that takes 3 hours to complete and I only have 2 hours to play. I am not bothered if I want something but realize it might take me a few weeks to get. People like us can still enjoy a game even if it takes us longer to achieve something. The act of playing is instant gratification, not the act of accomplishing everything you WANT because you can only play 1 hour a day.

    Casual gaming is a mentality, just as hard core gaming, not so much the time you have to play it but rather how you feel about it. Casual gamers force some games to dumb down to target them, and thats unfortunately a problem.

  • CenthanCenthan Member Posts: 483

    Thanks a bunch for the intelligent replies, and understanding where I'm coming from.  Except for the first reply (not even going to get into an argument with someone of that mentality), all of your replies help and I'm looking forward to trying it out in September.  Appreciate it.

  • Spaceweed10Spaceweed10 Member Posts: 625
    Originally posted by Rabenwolf

    Originally posted by Centhan


    I’ve seen some, but not much on this subject. Hopefully one of you beta testers could answer it. I believe I speak for most casual players when I say that we are the group of people who don’t want to “live” a game and have it totally encompass our lives, but just play to have fun. We don’t play 24/7, but fit our game time in after playing the much more interesting game called real life. 
    Anyway, is WAR the type of game where you don’t stand a chance unless you play until your eyes bleed for months on end in order to obtain the most uber leet gear so you can pwn the latest noobs? Or is it the type of game where someone who has a life can come into the game to have some fun PVP action and actually contribute to the battles going on?
     
    If it’s the former, I won’t be a lasting subscriber. While I know there is a market for that type of game, it’s one I will not be playing. If it’s the later, they’ll have my money for many months to come.

     

    This is the problem I have with casual players. They assume they should have everything available to them without working for it, and those that work for it there for have no life. The problem with this mentality is its no different than a kid crying about how "its not fair" and "i want it nowwwww".

    The problem with Casual players is they want instant gratification and hate it when rpgs allow for more work = more reward. The problem is you people are playing the wrong genre and expecting the wrong things in regards to that genre.

    Casual players are the cancer of the gaming industry, they help provide fun instant action games but at the same time end up causing rpgs to be dumbed down and fps's as well as some other games to be made shorter rather than drawn out.

    WAR will allow you have your action, but you still have to work for what you achieve. Those who work more will achieve more.

    Dont like it? Play a different genre.

     

    Spot on.

  • TrenytTrenyt Member Posts: 88
    Originally posted by Rabenwolf

    Originally posted by Centhan


    I’ve seen some, but not much on this subject. Hopefully one of you beta testers could answer it. I believe I speak for most casual players when I say that we are the group of people who don’t want to “live” a game and have it totally encompass our lives, but just play to have fun. We don’t play 24/7, but fit our game time in after playing the much more interesting game called real life. 
    Anyway, is WAR the type of game where you don’t stand a chance unless you play until your eyes bleed for months on end in order to obtain the most uber leet gear so you can pwn the latest noobs? Or is it the type of game where someone who has a life can come into the game to have some fun PVP action and actually contribute to the battles going on?
     
    If it’s the former, I won’t be a lasting subscriber. While I know there is a market for that type of game, it’s one I will not be playing. If it’s the later, they’ll have my money for many months to come.

     

    This is the problem I have with casual players. They assume they should have everything available to them without working for it, and those that work for it there for have no life. The problem with this mentality is its no different than a kid crying about how "its not fair" and "i want it nowwwww".

    The problem with Casual players is they want instant gratification and hate it when rpgs allow for more work = more reward. The problem is you people are playing the wrong genre and expecting the wrong things in regards to that genre.

    Casual players are the cancer of the gaming industry, they help provide fun instant action games but at the same time end up causing rpgs to be dumbed down and fps's as well as some other games to be made shorter rather than drawn out.

    WAR will allow you have your action, but you still have to work for what you achieve. Those who work more will achieve more.

    Dont like it? Play a different genre.

    I'd like to point out that nowhere in his post did he state he wanted 'goods' for doing next to no work. All he requested was an answer regarding whether he can still contribute to battles and have fun in pvp as a casual player with limited time.

    I class myself as a casual, what with having a life outside of my pc room, and although i still probably play more then 5 hours a week i see no reason why I should'nt have access to everything in the game as long as I can put in the hours over a certain duration. Why should certain subsets get more for their subscription then me?

    Your sweeping statement about all casuals being players who expect to do no work for their rewards, are impatient people who want everything now, is incorrect. Im a casual player yet I dont expect to be hand fed, have rewards waiting for me when i log on for the limited time i can, or be treated like some kind of gaming royalty. However I dont expect to be treated like the Gaming Lower class either...

    There is a difference between 'Impatience' and 'Casualality'

    I also take offence to you calling us 'the cancer' of the genre. Having first hand seen the suffering of the disease i dont take kindly to people bantying the term around lightly and especially against the undeserving.

     

     

     

  • CenthanCenthan Member Posts: 483
    Originally posted by shukes33


    Dont make the mistake of thinking that casual means lazy. it doesn't! i'm a casual player who played eq for 8 years and worked harder than most to get where i did. casual does not mean you want it all without working for it, i wouldn't mind needing 2 weeks to kill 1000 lesser demons to get the same item that a 12 year old who sat at his pc for 10 hours in a raid and did nothing other than get lucky on an item.



     

    By the way Shukes, this is my style exactly.  I hope you are the caliber of player I will be fighting along side with during the battles.

  • shukes33shukes33 Member Posts: 1,051
    Originally posted by Rabenwolf

    Originally posted by shukes33


    Dont make the mistake of thinking that casual means lazy. it doesn't! i'm a casual player who played eq for 8 years and worked harder than most to get where i did. casual does not mean you want it all without working for it, i wouldn't mind needing 2 weeks to kill 1000 lesser demons to get the same item that a 12 year old who sat at his pc for 10 hours in a raid and did nothing other than get lucky on an item.

     

    No a "casual" player is someone who believes that if someone else can achieve what they cannot achieve just as fast, and/or feel that if they sit down for 1 hour that they should be able to accomplish much. They feel that anyone who works hard for a "rare" item or what not, there for has NO LIFE.

    I dont have much time to play myself, but i do not consider myself a casual player because i am not bothered if someone has better gear than me if they worked for it, i am not bothered if there is a quest that takes 3 hours to complete and I only have 2 hours to play. I am not bothered if I want something but realize it might take me a few weeks to get. People like us can still enjoy a game even if it takes us longer to achieve something. The act of playing is instant gratification, not the act of accomplishing everything you WANT because you can only play 1 hour a day.

    Casual gaming is a mentality, just as hard core gaming, not so much the time you have to play it but rather how you feel about it. Casual gamers force some games to dumb down to target them, and thats unfortunately a problem.

    Rabenwolf! casual does not mean that at all. I'm not gonna let you tell me what i am. i class myself as a casual gamer, i dont have hours to spend in games and sometimes i only half play them while doing other things. i play casually but dont mind certain things taking me a long time to earn. i will grind for weeks, albeit an hour at a time, but i will still grind. do i class myself as a hardcore player? no way.

     

    what your describing is a player who moans when he doesn't get what he wants easy. that's not a fair assumption of a casual player. sorry friend but you dont have the right to label a whole bunch of people like that. casual is taking something casualy! getting ate up over niot recieving something easy is the oposite of casual.

  • qotsaqotsa Member UncommonPosts: 835
    Originally posted by Spaceweed10

    Originally posted by Rabenwolf

    Originally posted by Centhan


    I’ve seen some, but not much on this subject. Hopefully one of you beta testers could answer it. I believe I speak for most casual players when I say that we are the group of people who don’t want to “live” a game and have it totally encompass our lives, but just play to have fun. We don’t play 24/7, but fit our game time in after playing the much more interesting game called real life. 
    Anyway, is WAR the type of game where you don’t stand a chance unless you play until your eyes bleed for months on end in order to obtain the most uber leet gear so you can pwn the latest noobs? Or is it the type of game where someone who has a life can come into the game to have some fun PVP action and actually contribute to the battles going on?
     
    If it’s the former, I won’t be a lasting subscriber. While I know there is a market for that type of game, it’s one I will not be playing. If it’s the later, they’ll have my money for many months to come.

     

    This is the problem I have with casual players. They assume they should have everything available to them without working for it, and those that work for it there for have no life. The problem with this mentality is its no different than a kid crying about how "its not fair" and "i want it nowwwww".

    The problem with Casual players is they want instant gratification and hate it when rpgs allow for more work = more reward. The problem is you people are playing the wrong genre and expecting the wrong things in regards to that genre.

    Casual players are the cancer of the gaming industry, they help provide fun instant action games but at the same time end up causing rpgs to be dumbed down and fps's as well as some other games to be made shorter rather than drawn out.

    WAR will allow you have your action, but you still have to work for what you achieve. Those who work more will achieve more.

    Dont like it? Play a different genre.

     

    Spot on.

     

    no.

  • shukes33shukes33 Member Posts: 1,051

    Hope so centhan. ill be playing a high elf most prob. so either well be side by side or youll be feeling a piercing pain in your chest. either way i look forward to seeing more like you in game friend :)

  • TrenytTrenyt Member Posts: 88

    Exactly the terms 'Casual Gamer' and 'Hard Core Gamer' describ styles of playing, what your describing is a specific mentality and can cover all subsets.

  • shukes33shukes33 Member Posts: 1,051

    Agree mate!

    I think thats what i was trying to say.

  • DataDayDataDay Member UncommonPosts: 1,538
    Originally posted by Centhan

    Originally posted by shukes33


    Dont make the mistake of thinking that casual means lazy. it doesn't! i'm a casual player who played eq for 8 years and worked harder than most to get where i did. casual does not mean you want it all without working for it, i wouldn't mind needing 2 weeks to kill 1000 lesser demons to get the same item that a 12 year old who sat at his pc for 10 hours in a raid and did nothing other than get lucky on an item.



     

    By the way Shukes, this is my style exactly.  I hope you are the caliber of player I will be fighting along side with during the battles.

     

    Whats ironic is your sweeping generalizations about how anyone who spends more time in a game to get the upper hand is therefore a kid in front of a computer.

    Your apparent bitterness is so sweet, give me more. The message you are giving is that you and people like Shukes are BITTER. Thats the key word. BITTER, and thus tag anyone who makes more time to play than you as a "12 year old who sat at his PC for 10 hours" or as you put it someone whos "eyes bleed for months on end in order to obtain the most uber leet gear so you can pwn the latest noobs" and "dont have a life".

    You guys are just Bitter, and thats the real story behind your pent up feelings. Im sure there is a College student out there feeling just as bitter because some "2nd" grader out there doesnt have to turn in a Senior thesis and thus has more time to "play".

     

  • melwemelwe Member Posts: 78

    I posted this yesterday:

    It's entitled 'For the Casual'

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/195795

  • ebonfireebonfire Member UncommonPosts: 160

    Oh I so love the causal bashing.  When I do game it is because I want the social experience of playing with friends that I don't see very often anymore.   I resent that someone who games more than 30 hours a week could have anything negative to say about me.. I mean hell what are they doing to better society?  Nothing!  But they wear their little "I've completed more mindless tasks than anyone else" badge proudly.

    Look at WoW, and honestly it was casuals who paid for the development of all the hardcore raid content that they would never see.  So yeah I would like to know also how the WAR developers are going to spend the money I pay them every month. 

    Instant gratification is a term created by someone who has way too much time on their hands.

  • CereoCereo Member Posts: 551
    Originally posted by shukes33

    Originally posted by Rabenwolf

    Originally posted by shukes33


    Dont make the mistake of thinking that casual means lazy. it doesn't! i'm a casual player who played eq for 8 years and worked harder than most to get where i did. casual does not mean you want it all without working for it, i wouldn't mind needing 2 weeks to kill 1000 lesser demons to get the same item that a 12 year old who sat at his pc for 10 hours in a raid and did nothing other than get lucky on an item.

     

    No a "casual" player is someone who believes that if someone else can achieve what they cannot achieve just as fast, and/or feel that if they sit down for 1 hour that they should be able to accomplish much. They feel that anyone who works hard for a "rare" item or what not, there for has NO LIFE.

    I dont have much time to play myself, but i do not consider myself a casual player because i am not bothered if someone has better gear than me if they worked for it, i am not bothered if there is a quest that takes 3 hours to complete and I only have 2 hours to play. I am not bothered if I want something but realize it might take me a few weeks to get. People like us can still enjoy a game even if it takes us longer to achieve something. The act of playing is instant gratification, not the act of accomplishing everything you WANT because you can only play 1 hour a day.

    Casual gaming is a mentality, just as hard core gaming, not so much the time you have to play it but rather how you feel about it. Casual gamers force some games to dumb down to target them, and thats unfortunately a problem.

    Rabenwolf! casual does not mean that at all. I'm not gonna let you tell me what i am. i class myself as a casual gamer, i dont have hours to spend in games and sometimes i only half play them while doing other things. i play casually but dont mind certain things taking me a long time to earn. i will grind for weeks, albeit an hour at a time, but i will still grind. do i class myself as a hardcore player? no way.

     

    what your describing is a player who moans when he doesn't get what he wants easy. that's not a fair assumption of a casual player. sorry friend but you dont have the right to label a whole bunch of people like that. casual is taking something casualy! getting ate up over niot recieving something easy is the oposite of casual.



     

    Agree with shukes. How you instantly take offense to someone that doesn't want to play 40 hours a week is really shocking. I know what you are complaining about but clearly the OP said nothing of the sort that would indicate to me that he doesn't want to earn anything.

    What I think the OP was trying to get at is similar to WoW. You can't waltz into WoW PvP and do good. If you are on a PvP server, high levels will gank you and theres nothing you can do. You go in lower level battlegrounds, you have to be near max level range and often twinked or you won't do well. So more or less you have to wait until end game to PvP effectively. But of course, that's not that easy either. Arena teams will roll over you if you don't have Epic gear and its not fun at all that their advantage is their gear, much less than skill. And battlegrounds are just boring at this point to me. While you can help the team with lower gear, you just rush here or there and it doesn't feel like you are really doing anything. Most of the time you just pass up  the players even to get to a goal, which doesn't make a lot of battle mode sense.

  • shukes33shukes33 Member Posts: 1,051
    Originally posted by Rabenwolf

    Originally posted by Centhan

    Originally posted by shukes33


    Dont make the mistake of thinking that casual means lazy. it doesn't! i'm a casual player who played eq for 8 years and worked harder than most to get where i did. casual does not mean you want it all without working for it, i wouldn't mind needing 2 weeks to kill 1000 lesser demons to get the same item that a 12 year old who sat at his pc for 10 hours in a raid and did nothing other than get lucky on an item.



     

    By the way Shukes, this is my style exactly.  I hope you are the caliber of player I will be fighting along side with during the battles.

     

    Whats ironic is your sweeping generalizations about how anyone who spends more time in a game to get the upper hand is therefore a kid in front of a computer.

    Your apparent bitterness is so sweet, give me more. The message you are giving is that you and people like Shukes are BITTER. Thats the key word. BITTER, and thus tag anyone who makes more time to play than you as a "12 year old who sat at his PC for 10 hours" or as you put it someone whos "eyes bleed for months on end in order to obtain the most uber leet gear so you can pwn the latest noobs" and "dont have a life".

    You guys are just Bitter, and thats the real story behind your pent up feelings. Im sure there is a College student out there feeling just as bitter because some "2nd" grader out there doesnt have to turn in a Senior thesis and thus has more time to "play".

     



     

    First of wow where did that come from

    second your second quote could you link it please as it really isnt mine, you have it wrong :) so mybe your mistaking me for someone else.

    Third, when i say 12 year old kid! i am not generlising t all. look at my post history many who know me will vouch for this. i actualy have a 12 year old son who sits t his pc and does gain great loot from raids ect. if you could just point out where i was generalising i would be more than happy to take a look :)

    My guess is you wont!

    I'm not bitter at all friend and to be honest i m quite shocked to how you replyed. you obviously feel veery strongly about this subject. But i apologise if you thought my intention was to label you, it wasn't at all. i was trying to say the opossite. i have this trouble quite a lot i think, i try to put something down in words but it always seems to come out wrong.

  • odessaboodessabo Member Posts: 24
    Originally posted by Rabenwolf

    Originally posted by Centhan


    I’ve seen some, but not much on this subject. Hopefully one of you beta testers could answer it. I believe I speak for most casual players when I say that we are the group of people who don’t want to “live” a game and have it totally encompass our lives, but just play to have fun. We don’t play 24/7, but fit our game time in after playing the much more interesting game called real life. 
    Anyway, is WAR the type of game where you don’t stand a chance unless you play until your eyes bleed for months on end in order to obtain the most uber leet gear so you can pwn the latest noobs? Or is it the type of game where someone who has a life can come into the game to have some fun PVP action and actually contribute to the battles going on?
     
    If it’s the former, I won’t be a lasting subscriber. While I know there is a market for that type of game, it’s one I will not be playing. If it’s the later, they’ll have my money for many months to come.

     

    This is the problem I have with casual players. They assume they should have everything available to them without working for it, and those that work for it there for have no life. The problem with this mentality is its no different than a kid crying about how "its not fair" and "i want it nowwwww".

    The problem with Casual players is they want instant gratification and hate it when rpgs allow for more work = more reward. The problem is you people are playing the wrong genre and expecting the wrong things in regards to that genre.

    Casual players are the cancer of the gaming industry, they help provide fun instant action games but at the same time end up causing rpgs to be dumbed down and fps's as well as some other games to be made shorter rather than drawn out.

    WAR will allow you have your action, but you still have to work for what you achieve. Those who work more will achieve more.

    Dont like it? Play a different genre.



     

    See, this is the problem I have with people who bash casual players.  They assume they should have everything available to them because they have no life and those that play casually shouldnt.  The problem with this mentality is its no different than a kid crying about how "its not fair" and "i want it alllllll".

    Can somebody please explain to me why MMORPGs should be so much different than in FPS games in the HARDCORE vs CASUAL?  In a game like Counterstrike or TF2, it doesnt matter one hill of beans whether or not I spend 24/7 in the game or just an hour a week.  It comes down to your skill.

    For those hardcore fans....hey gratz to you.  You get to enjoy the game more.  Why cant this be enough?  Why must you have the better gear, etc?

    btw, i am sure that casual gamers are Mythic, Blizz, et al's best subscribers.  We all pay the same $15 a month that you do, but we are not constantly logged in consuming bandwidth and CPU ticks like you.  It's about time they give a nod to us.

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  • SineathSineath Member Posts: 224

    Umm, was gonna post a reply about this topic then realized its just become a flamefest thread with everyone insulting each other instead of just answering the question.

  • DataDayDataDay Member UncommonPosts: 1,538

    The story of two business men.

    Business man 1 and 2 both have the same job. Business man 1 spends more time at work and makes more money than business man 2. Business man 2 spends as little time at is job as possible, just enough to get him through life. The rest of the time he spends going out and doing other tasks, which he deems as having a life.

    At the next company event, the CEO announces that there will be a car race and that the winner will get a bonus. So all of the business men picked to participate line up on a cleared road. Business man 1 wins and business man 2 complains, "hey thats not fair you have an expensive sports car"!!! The business man 1 looks at the cheap minivan that Business man 2 is driving. Business man 1 states "well thats what you picked to race with".

    Business man 2 gets mad and says "but i have a life, i dont want to have to work more hours to get enough income to buy a sports car"! The business man 1 replies "well why are you upset that you lost then? should I have driven slowly so you won?" Business man 2  stomps his feet "of course i should had a chance, you get all the nice cars, boats, suits, its not fair! I am not having fun because you have more than me".

    Business man 1 looks at him and says "its what i worked for to get, i am responsible for my own time and rewards. I dont feel superior about it, but it does feel nice to get the nicer things in life when you work for them."

    Business man 2 replies "Then we should make it so that everyone has the same thing. Just because I have a life!"

    Business man 1 returns "so you want communism?" then shakes his head and walks away.

    I like what this one developer said...

    Steve M: "Casual" is the term that I always use. I like the definition, first put forward by Dave Rohrl at Pogo, that casual gamers are players who would never list "playing games" as one of their primary interests. I also like to say that for a casual game to be successful, you should be able to write everything you need to know to play the game on one side of an index card.

     

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