if that GM was able to teleport in the first place ,why not to fix his mistake and teleport those looters to somewhere also.
Good question, but I think the player who looted him wasn't being cooperative either with the GM, and was arguing why he shouldn't loot the guy he just PK'd. If it was me, I would have put my personal stuff in a safekeeping, then allowed the GM to teleport me over with his gear and returned the favor for him. Not sure how that would work since I don't play Darkfall, but that would have been the fair way to end it.
This Post is obviously fake, anyone can use a Photoshop or some program and make up a story.
(and even if its real, AV, and almost all MMO companys, have a policy that a conversatoin with a GM is private, so you may not Post it on their forms, or share it, its not a coverup, just their standards.)
if that GM was able to teleport in the first place ,why not to fix his mistake and teleport those looters to somewhere also.
Exactly what I would have done if I was the GM and would have expected if I was the one being teleported from a safe zone into danger for whatever GM reason the guy had in the first place.
GM's in full loot PvP games should be trained to a much higher standard than your normal GM, the fallout from mistakes is potentially far greater and as such your GM should know and understand what they are doing when interacting with players.
This is certainly something that is now going to bite Aventurine on the ass, and hopefully get some kind of official response, other than deleting or locking posts, because that doesn't solve anything, it just shows your contempt for your player base and pushes the problem onto other forums.
What i get from pictures is a GM made a mistake and tried afterwards to solve it by all possible means he had access too. Does it suck to loose loot to this, yes it sucks ..but also it could have happen that someone else could have just go there and kill him and part the loot from him. I have extremely well experiences with Darkfall 's GM's so far, they quick and they solved any prob i had so far.
The question I have though is do you presume to say that what the player said simply can't be true because you have never had a bad experience with DF? If so then I reiterate you're wrong because collusion between GM's and players have definitely happened in games before so let's give the player the same benefit of the doubt (unless you can say that you have had interactions with that particular GM and know him to be trustworthy).
How would this mistake be made, how would one randomly teleport someone and why has it not happened before now? I do think the gm and AV deserve a chance to prove this is not what happened but make no mistake they need to prove that first.
No i didn't said that, i said :
"a GM made a mistake"
Also i had access to screenshots in which specific GM was telling a player (the player in the capital trying to loot the corpse) to NOT loot the corpse because "he made a mistake" and that fits exactly with the statement in these presented screenshot where the GM's tells something like "i try to convince other players not to loot your corpse", the GM wouldn't admit to have made mistake to a dozens players if he what whatever reason wanted to kill these poor player.
dunno why that happened but accidents happens, from my expertience with GM's - thats why i mentioned it - they must be rare.
Also on the screenshot the player ask GM "how to get you fired" ..so the motivation of all these thread is clear imo, the player instead to be interested in his problem being solved want some type of "revenge" using forums and not the helpdesk.
Right and I'm saying as clearly as I can you don't kow any better how or why the gm did it than I do, again I am leaning far more toward the side that this player was just being an unreasonable tool but it doesn't change the fact that manyof you are asking lot's of others to assume the gm made a mistake and I atleast am not going to do that.
Also I don't think the person making the thread here on mmorpg is even the player that this happened to, the player making this post laid it out in black and white "he's informing the public because AV is locking the threads on the official site.".
I think anyone to just jump up and believe either AV or the player at this point is fooling themselves equally. Nothing in the post indicates the player even asked for help, what if he didn't? Many people are assuming he did and that just goes along with the fact that they trust AV's word on it just like those who don't like AV are automatically jumping to the players defense. I consider myself a very neutral party in this because DF doesn't effect me in either way and as such I just advocate again that people get more facts before taking either your opinion or even the op's at face value and nothing I've read would really change my mind about that.
but yeah, to call this game Fantastic is like calling Twilight the Godfather of vampire movies....
The GM obviously made a mistake, he even admits so, and theres nothing strange with that. We all make mistakes, right?
But after that mistake it looks like its taking a weird turn. Seems like the GM cant return stuff to the player, and if theres someone who CAN do that, it should be the GM making sure it happens since it was he who screwed up. But it seems the GM doesnt do anything more(?) to solve this, hes not even hinting that the player can get his stuff back eventually.
This suggests that either:
a) Aventurine actually cant return stuff PERIOD, which seems really weird, or...
b) the GM simply panics and "run away" instead of solving this.
Well it seems from what this guy says that the GM screwed up accidentaly teleported him and he got killed and looted. The GM doesn't have the ability to spwan in game items so tells him to send in a ticket to get his gear back and apologises. The player then decides not to do that and in a rage goes to the forums and complains about it accusing AV of GM corruption ect.
Maybe he should have put in a ticket and waited a day or so? I know it sounds crazy but if they told him to get lost then I'd understand a rage quit thread.
As for GM corruption, if he is using his god powers to benefit his friends he's not very good at covering his tracks! Apologising to the victim and identifing himself then telling him to notify an admin. It seems to me his darstadly criminal career in Darkfall is going to be cut off!
It'd be interesting to know the events surrounding this but from what he's said it seems he's just acting very childish like an infant screaming for his toys back rather than being an adult and going through the proper channels. Which if he had done he'd probably have his gear back by now!
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This suggests that either: a) Aventurine actually cant return stuff PERIOD, which seems really weird, or... wrong.. it suggest that these GM isn't authorized to give stuff back, he suggested to open a ticket for these matter to relay to people who have the power but player was more interested in revange e.g "how can i get you fired". b) the GM simply panics and "run away" instead of solving this. he tried but he couldn't, obviously he hasn't much powers but isn't that a good thing looking at the accident happened here ?Don't you want GM's to have different level of access ?
Lets hope it was b) and just an inexperienced GM.
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Well i hate to bring another game into this but WORSE happened in Eve where the GM,employee was abusing his power,and i bet this happens a lot in MOST games.I know of several where GM's abused their power including also FFXI a male GM for a female player and it was all over the chat waves for quite awhile,everyone asked the GM be fired and never was.In Eve's case they "claim" the employee was fired but of course not right away only after public pressure,and if he ever was,there is no proof anywhere.As a matter of fact FFXI has/had maybe the WORST GM i have ever heard of in any game,he is a total smart ass and admits to banning people because he just doesn't like you ,your a noob or he had a bad day.People used to praise the idiot who also ran a weekly blog ,bloating his immature accolades for banning noobs.
In this AV case,it shows how their "policy" can be totally lame,they say nothing they can do ,because it is policy,well BS on policy,you make a mistake ANYWHERE in life,it is EXPECTED to be fixed.That is like saying i a can steal money off your CC because it is our policy to do so lmao,BS,policy is another way of saying we are covering our ass for mistakes and screw the customer.In this case it is hard to tell if the GM was being a jerk or made a mistake,i really don't know why he teleport the guy,but no matter AV should fix it,and fix their lame POLICY.
The PROPER thing to do is EVERYONE cancel their accounts and AV WILL 100% guarantee get their act together,but you cannot count on your fellow gamer,they will screw you over before they help you[at least MOST],that is the sad reality of people.One day people might wake up and realize ,we DON"T need their games,moral issues are MUCH more important.
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Well i hate to bring another game into this but WORSE happened in Eve where the GM,employee was abusing his power,and i bet this happens a lot in MOST games.I know of several where GM's abused their power including also FFXI a male GM for a female player and it was all over the chat waves for quite awhile,everyone asked the GM be fired and never was.In Eve's case they "claim" the employee was fired but of course not right away only after public pressure,and if he ever was,there is no proof anywhere.As a matter of fact FFXI has/had maybe the WORST GM i have ever heard of in any game,he is a total smart ass and admits to banning people because he just doesn't like you ,your a noob or he had a bad day.People used to praise the idiot who also ran a weekly blog ,bloating his immature accolades for banning noobs. In this AV case,it shows how their "policy" can be totally lame,they say nothing they can do ,because it is policy,well BS on policy,you make a mistake ANYWHERE in life,it is EXPECTED to be fixed.That is like saying i a can steal money off your CC because it is our policy to do so lmao,BS,policy is another way of saying we are covering our ass for mistakes and screw the customer.In this case it is hard to tell if the GM was being a jerk or made a mistake,i really don't know why he teleport the guy,but no matter AV should fix it,and fix their lame POLICY. The PROPER thing to do is EVERYONE cancel their accounts and AV WILL 100% guarantee get their act together,but you cannot count on your fellow gamer,they will screw you over before they help you[at least MOST],that is the sad reality of people.One day people might wake up and realize ,we DON"T need their games,moral issues are MUCH more important.
I don't think it's hard to tell if you read through all the text between the GM, the teleported player, and the chat between the GM and the looting player, you can clearly see he made an attempt at fixing his initial mistake. I really think he seemed sincere in his attempt to fix his mess, but this might be a case of the GM's hands being tied do to what appears to be strick and limiting policy from AV. It's sad to see a player who is paying monthly get the raw end of the stick, and even sadder to see how powerless GM's really are in Darkfall.
The only way to fix this is to delegate more powers to the GM in regards to policy incase such accidents happen again... however, again such powers come with higher responsibilities and unfortunately, higher temptation and likely corruption if the GM's were to abuse any new powers given them.
It's going to be a tough balancing act, but AV better officially address this as this may put off current and possible future players from subscribing.
I do agree with your quote btw, "One day people might wake up and realize, we DON'T need their games, moral issues are MUCH more important." By sticking their heads in the sand like an osterich, and locking/banning threads on an apparent customer issue, they run the risk of not only luring future subscribers, but loosing some current ones who may be put off by their lack of customer satisfaction.
Hopefully this is an isolated incident for AV, but if not, it should be looked into and addressed both publicly and proffessionally in order to maintain some modecum of credibility in the eyes of their subscribers and/or future subscribers alike.
This suggests that either: a) Aventurine actually cant return stuff PERIOD, which seems really weird, or... wrong.. it suggest that these GM isn't authorized to give stuff back, he suggested to open a ticket for these matter to relay to people who have the power but player was more interested in revange e.g "how can i get you fired". As I said earlier in my post: "Seems like the GM cant return stuff to the player..." so yeah, figured that much. And about the suggestion to open a ticket; "hes not even hinting that the player can get his stuff back eventually" (also in my post) if he DID open a ticket, instead hes pasting in a standard answer which suggests that he WONT get his stuff back. b) the GM simply panics and "run away" instead of solving this. he tried but he couldn't, obviously he hasn't much powers but isn't that a good thing looking at the accident happened here ?Don't you want GM's to have different level of access ?
And as I said earlier in my post (once again): "Seems like the GM cant return stuff to the player, and if theres someone who CAN do that, it should be the GM making sure it happens since it was he who screwed up." GM screws up = GM fix (in my opinion of course). Lets hope it was b) and just an inexperienced GM.hes not even hinting that the player can get his stuff back eventually
That really sucks, but that GM literally doesn't have the power to restore items. I've worked the customer service/hack detection GM role for a small company before(Gamestorm to be specific). All he has is a handful of simple commands (kick/teleport/ban/etc) and no way of directly contacting a Senior GM. The best he could do is probably send out an email, which would have taken longer to answer than a support ticket. Chances are he's not even on payroll, he's just a volunteer that gets a free sub. He literally couldn't have helped you if he wanted to. If it makes you feel better I'd wager there is a 99.9% chance they'll remove his GM account. Shit happens. Whether it was on purpose or whether it was a mistake, I sincerely doubt you're going to see GM Verimidar in the future. Pretty stupid reason to throw away hundreds of hours you've spent developing on a character though.
Just a straw that broke the camels back bro.. I'm not the one this happened to.. but i'm still unsubing because Aventurine is clueless.. I've bought 4 accounts 2 at EU launch and 2 at NA launch.. I stil lhave my 2 NA's active until today I canceled.. I have a full grinded char and anyone knows how hard that is.. all Magics 100 Intensify 50+ Melee Mastery 75+ on 2 weapons.. 100/100/100 archery 300+ HP.. I'm unsubing a very developed char because there is nothing to do in game..
The Epic battles they advertise are nothing more then a crash fest.. you can't get around a siege without getting a out of virtual address space crash because darkfall has a massive amount of memory leaks, the performance has gotten worse since launch and content more stagnet.. THey don't communicate with their customers and then this morning I wake up to see all these thread about this subject that keep getting deleted and locked. It was really just the straw that broke the camels back.
Sounds like you're bored with the game and were (consciously or subconsciously) looking for a reason to quit. I mean, really, you're quitting a game because some noob GM screwed something up that had nothing to do with you?
As for the call for everyone to quit Darkfall because of this, well, that's pretty silly.
The playerbase is the only reason why I do not play DFO... I am sorry for the good DFO players, they really exist, I have a few friends there, but the majority just doesnt have the maturity to make this a good MMO... Of course there is also a lot of things that I do not like in the game (as the total lack of individualization of the chars, all are blasters with the same tree of choices to skill up), but the main thing is the community. I cant judge this player if he is part of this majority or not, but I know that I would be pissed off a lot if I got myself teleported by a GM (And killed because of that) who after that says that ´oh, sorry, I am having a bad day´... However I would try to communicate as he told me to do, and IF that doesnt work I would cry on the forums... I dont know if that was the course that this player took, anyway Aventurine should not shut down the forums liek this, it would be wiser to first answer it, solve it and then, if htats the case, shut down the discussion about it... Aventurine seens to always take the most immature approach... Well, maybe I found why the playerbase of DFO is immature
I am thinking right now, anyone here would defy a GM and do something he asks you to not to do? I found it strange as the GM tried (and failed) to command the player to not loot the guy.. I, in his place, would agree with the GM right on the moment... Weird...
There have been rampant rumors of GM's in alliances/clans abusing powers in game.. Today a thread surfaced about a player who was teleported by a GM where an enemy player was waiting for him to kill and gank. Afterwards the GM refused to refund the players items.. Allowed the enemy players to loot his body and basically told him to "contact support" and stuff it.. The player obviously went straight to the forums to get some closure and since every thread about the subject has been sensored and locked and or deleted. Another case of a corrupt company running a corrupt game that doesn't even work.. I've canceled my subs after this, I hope everyone follows.
The only thing this proves is that the GM made a mistake and Bill Brasky is a Jerk? Is there anything else here.......Yawwwwns
I was considering giving this thing a go at one point. Glad I haven't and now never will. I, for one, will continue to pass this along to everyone I know.
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Lol tell the world what? That Darkfall has a crappy GM that made a mistake one time? Shout it from the rooftops!
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This thread is very humorous. I've actually seen people mocking it in game in Race Alliance chat several times already. For those that don't play, this chat tab is known for being a cesspool. It's best not to even read it for the most part. If these guys are all making fun of you, don't hold your head up too high.
I was considering giving this thing a go at one point. Glad I haven't and now never will. I, for one, will continue to pass this along to everyone I know. Satisfied Customer: Tells 10 people Pissed Customer: Tells 10,000 people Customer Service 101
You joking? This shit rarely happens and it's the first time I heard about it. This shouldn't stop you from trying the game, because it is quite enjoyable. Like I said earlier, I reserve judgement til I hear from the other sides.
I've stopped playing again, but I have a friend that still plays DF on the NA server. His alliance has recently been attacked by an alliance with a dev clan in it. They have been sieging their cities and hamlets non stop for weeks now. They even brought the two largest most expensive ships in the game. So expensive that larger alliances can't afford them. They have already lost a hamlet because these guys can somehow afford to siege them over and over almost every day.
The best part is when someone stole the clan in question's Ship of the Line,possibly a hacker. He went to my friend's city to try to deposit it in their bank, and was killed. Imagine their surprise when they looted the second best ship in the game off this guy. The ship was given to their clan leader, and he banked it. The next day, the ship is gone. He got no explanation from the gms, and was totally ignored when he petitioned it. Guess what showed up outside their city a few minutes later? The enemy clan with their ship of the line which was returned by a dev . Other ships have been stolen, but not a single one has been returned. Even ships that were stolen by hackers. "Sorry we can't return lost items" has always been the policy. But for some reason they changed the policy for one clan. Guess why?
His leader quit the game out of disgust. He made several attempts to contact them, but got no response. All attempts to make it public were silenced.
P.S. The clan in question has been known to have developers in it's membership since before the NA server launched.
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if that GM was able to teleport in the first place ,why not to fix his mistake and teleport those looters to somewhere also.
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Good question, but I think the player who looted him wasn't being cooperative either with the GM, and was arguing why he shouldn't loot the guy he just PK'd. If it was me, I would have put my personal stuff in a safekeeping, then allowed the GM to teleport me over with his gear and returned the favor for him. Not sure how that would work since I don't play Darkfall, but that would have been the fair way to end it.
This Post is obviously fake, anyone can use a Photoshop or some program and make up a story.
(and even if its real, AV, and almost all MMO companys, have a policy that a conversatoin with a GM is private, so you may not Post it on their forms, or share it, its not a coverup, just their standards.)
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Exactly what I would have done if I was the GM and would have expected if I was the one being teleported from a safe zone into danger for whatever GM reason the guy had in the first place.
GM's in full loot PvP games should be trained to a much higher standard than your normal GM, the fallout from mistakes is potentially far greater and as such your GM should know and understand what they are doing when interacting with players.
This is certainly something that is now going to bite Aventurine on the ass, and hopefully get some kind of official response, other than deleting or locking posts, because that doesn't solve anything, it just shows your contempt for your player base and pushes the problem onto other forums.
The question I have though is do you presume to say that what the player said simply can't be true because you have never had a bad experience with DF? If so then I reiterate you're wrong because collusion between GM's and players have definitely happened in games before so let's give the player the same benefit of the doubt (unless you can say that you have had interactions with that particular GM and know him to be trustworthy).
How would this mistake be made, how would one randomly teleport someone and why has it not happened before now? I do think the gm and AV deserve a chance to prove this is not what happened but make no mistake they need to prove that first.
No i didn't said that, i said :
"a GM made a mistake"
Also i had access to screenshots in which specific GM was telling a player (the player in the capital trying to loot the corpse) to NOT loot the corpse because "he made a mistake" and that fits exactly with the statement in these presented screenshot where the GM's tells something like "i try to convince other players not to loot your corpse", the GM wouldn't admit to have made mistake to a dozens players if he what whatever reason wanted to kill these poor player.
dunno why that happened but accidents happens, from my expertience with GM's - thats why i mentioned it - they must be rare.
Also on the screenshot the player ask GM "how to get you fired" ..so the motivation of all these thread is clear imo, the player instead to be interested in his problem being solved want some type of "revenge" using forums and not the helpdesk.
Right and I'm saying as clearly as I can you don't kow any better how or why the gm did it than I do, again I am leaning far more toward the side that this player was just being an unreasonable tool but it doesn't change the fact that manyof you are asking lot's of others to assume the gm made a mistake and I atleast am not going to do that.
Also I don't think the person making the thread here on mmorpg is even the player that this happened to, the player making this post laid it out in black and white "he's informing the public because AV is locking the threads on the official site.".
I think anyone to just jump up and believe either AV or the player at this point is fooling themselves equally. Nothing in the post indicates the player even asked for help, what if he didn't? Many people are assuming he did and that just goes along with the fact that they trust AV's word on it just like those who don't like AV are automatically jumping to the players defense. I consider myself a very neutral party in this because DF doesn't effect me in either way and as such I just advocate again that people get more facts before taking either your opinion or even the op's at face value and nothing I've read would really change my mind about that.
but yeah, to call this game Fantastic is like calling Twilight the Godfather of vampire movies....
The GM obviously made a mistake, he even admits so, and theres nothing strange with that. We all make mistakes, right?
But after that mistake it looks like its taking a weird turn. Seems like the GM cant return stuff to the player, and if theres someone who CAN do that, it should be the GM making sure it happens since it was he who screwed up. But it seems the GM doesnt do anything more(?) to solve this, hes not even hinting that the player can get his stuff back eventually.
This suggests that either:
a) Aventurine actually cant return stuff PERIOD, which seems really weird, or...
b) the GM simply panics and "run away" instead of solving this.
Lets hope it was b) and just an inexperienced GM.
Well it seems from what this guy says that the GM screwed up accidentaly teleported him and he got killed and looted. The GM doesn't have the ability to spwan in game items so tells him to send in a ticket to get his gear back and apologises. The player then decides not to do that and in a rage goes to the forums and complains about it accusing AV of GM corruption ect.
Maybe he should have put in a ticket and waited a day or so? I know it sounds crazy but if they told him to get lost then I'd understand a rage quit thread.
As for GM corruption, if he is using his god powers to benefit his friends he's not very good at covering his tracks! Apologising to the victim and identifing himself then telling him to notify an admin. It seems to me his darstadly criminal career in Darkfall is going to be cut off!
It'd be interesting to know the events surrounding this but from what he's said it seems he's just acting very childish like an infant screaming for his toys back rather than being an adult and going through the proper channels. Which if he had done he'd probably have his gear back by now!
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CS Lewis
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Well i hate to bring another game into this but WORSE happened in Eve where the GM,employee was abusing his power,and i bet this happens a lot in MOST games.I know of several where GM's abused their power including also FFXI a male GM for a female player and it was all over the chat waves for quite awhile,everyone asked the GM be fired and never was.In Eve's case they "claim" the employee was fired but of course not right away only after public pressure,and if he ever was,there is no proof anywhere.As a matter of fact FFXI has/had maybe the WORST GM i have ever heard of in any game,he is a total smart ass and admits to banning people because he just doesn't like you ,your a noob or he had a bad day.People used to praise the idiot who also ran a weekly blog ,bloating his immature accolades for banning noobs.
In this AV case,it shows how their "policy" can be totally lame,they say nothing they can do ,because it is policy,well BS on policy,you make a mistake ANYWHERE in life,it is EXPECTED to be fixed.That is like saying i a can steal money off your CC because it is our policy to do so lmao,BS,policy is another way of saying we are covering our ass for mistakes and screw the customer.In this case it is hard to tell if the GM was being a jerk or made a mistake,i really don't know why he teleport the guy,but no matter AV should fix it,and fix their lame POLICY.
The PROPER thing to do is EVERYONE cancel their accounts and AV WILL 100% guarantee get their act together,but you cannot count on your fellow gamer,they will screw you over before they help you[at least MOST],that is the sad reality of people.One day people might wake up and realize ,we DON"T need their games,moral issues are MUCH more important.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
I don't think it's hard to tell if you read through all the text between the GM, the teleported player, and the chat between the GM and the looting player, you can clearly see he made an attempt at fixing his initial mistake. I really think he seemed sincere in his attempt to fix his mess, but this might be a case of the GM's hands being tied do to what appears to be strick and limiting policy from AV. It's sad to see a player who is paying monthly get the raw end of the stick, and even sadder to see how powerless GM's really are in Darkfall.
The only way to fix this is to delegate more powers to the GM in regards to policy incase such accidents happen again... however, again such powers come with higher responsibilities and unfortunately, higher temptation and likely corruption if the GM's were to abuse any new powers given them.
It's going to be a tough balancing act, but AV better officially address this as this may put off current and possible future players from subscribing.
I do agree with your quote btw, "One day people might wake up and realize, we DON'T need their games, moral issues are MUCH more important." By sticking their heads in the sand like an osterich, and locking/banning threads on an apparent customer issue, they run the risk of not only luring future subscribers, but loosing some current ones who may be put off by their lack of customer satisfaction.
Hopefully this is an isolated incident for AV, but if not, it should be looked into and addressed both publicly and proffessionally in order to maintain some modecum of credibility in the eyes of their subscribers and/or future subscribers alike.
Just a straw that broke the camels back bro.. I'm not the one this happened to.. but i'm still unsubing because Aventurine is clueless.. I've bought 4 accounts 2 at EU launch and 2 at NA launch.. I stil lhave my 2 NA's active until today I canceled.. I have a full grinded char and anyone knows how hard that is.. all Magics 100 Intensify 50+ Melee Mastery 75+ on 2 weapons.. 100/100/100 archery 300+ HP.. I'm unsubing a very developed char because there is nothing to do in game..
The Epic battles they advertise are nothing more then a crash fest.. you can't get around a siege without getting a out of virtual address space crash because darkfall has a massive amount of memory leaks, the performance has gotten worse since launch and content more stagnet.. THey don't communicate with their customers and then this morning I wake up to see all these thread about this subject that keep getting deleted and locked. It was really just the straw that broke the camels back.
Sounds like you're bored with the game and were (consciously or subconsciously) looking for a reason to quit. I mean, really, you're quitting a game because some noob GM screwed something up that had nothing to do with you?
As for the call for everyone to quit Darkfall because of this, well, that's pretty silly.
Oh my , i knew i quit that game for a reason.
List of SOE lies
Wow, I'm glad I avoided buying this.
Because of a random GM mistake that would be made in the future?
The playerbase is the only reason why I do not play DFO... I am sorry for the good DFO players, they really exist, I have a few friends there, but the majority just doesnt have the maturity to make this a good MMO... Of course there is also a lot of things that I do not like in the game (as the total lack of individualization of the chars, all are blasters with the same tree of choices to skill up), but the main thing is the community. I cant judge this player if he is part of this majority or not, but I know that I would be pissed off a lot if I got myself teleported by a GM (And killed because of that) who after that says that ´oh, sorry, I am having a bad day´... However I would try to communicate as he told me to do, and IF that doesnt work I would cry on the forums... I dont know if that was the course that this player took, anyway Aventurine should not shut down the forums liek this, it would be wiser to first answer it, solve it and then, if htats the case, shut down the discussion about it... Aventurine seens to always take the most immature approach... Well, maybe I found why the playerbase of DFO is immature
I am thinking right now, anyone here would defy a GM and do something he asks you to not to do? I found it strange as the GM tried (and failed) to command the player to not loot the guy.. I, in his place, would agree with the GM right on the moment... Weird...
The only thing this proves is that the GM made a mistake and Bill Brasky is a Jerk? Is there anything else here.......Yawwwwns
No, and thanks for making me yawn.
I was considering giving this thing a go at one point. Glad I haven't and now never will. I, for one, will continue to pass this along to everyone I know.
Satisfied Customer: Tells 10 people
Pissed Customer: Tells 10,000 people
Customer Service 101
NEWS FLASH! PAYING THE SUB IN F2P = NO DIFFERENCE THAN P2P GAMES!
Why the hell can't the whiners comprehend this?
Good thing we have this neutral ground.
MMORPG.com, where we can tell the world without being censored.
Lol tell the world what? That Darkfall has a crappy GM that made a mistake one time? Shout it from the rooftops!
The little logo looks cool.
Lol tell the world what? That Darkfall has a crappy GM that made a mistake one time? Shout it from the rooftops!
World! Consider yourself warned.
This thread is very humorous. I've actually seen people mocking it in game in Race Alliance chat several times already. For those that don't play, this chat tab is known for being a cesspool. It's best not to even read it for the most part. If these guys are all making fun of you, don't hold your head up too high.
You joking? This shit rarely happens and it's the first time I heard about it. This shouldn't stop you from trying the game, because it is quite enjoyable. Like I said earlier, I reserve judgement til I hear from the other sides.
I've stopped playing again, but I have a friend that still plays DF on the NA server. His alliance has recently been attacked by an alliance with a dev clan in it. They have been sieging their cities and hamlets non stop for weeks now. They even brought the two largest most expensive ships in the game. So expensive that larger alliances can't afford them. They have already lost a hamlet because these guys can somehow afford to siege them over and over almost every day.
The best part is when someone stole the clan in question's Ship of the Line,possibly a hacker. He went to my friend's city to try to deposit it in their bank, and was killed. Imagine their surprise when they looted the second best ship in the game off this guy. The ship was given to their clan leader, and he banked it. The next day, the ship is gone. He got no explanation from the gms, and was totally ignored when he petitioned it. Guess what showed up outside their city a few minutes later? The enemy clan with their ship of the line which was returned by a dev . Other ships have been stolen, but not a single one has been returned. Even ships that were stolen by hackers. "Sorry we can't return lost items" has always been the policy. But for some reason they changed the policy for one clan. Guess why?
His leader quit the game out of disgust. He made several attempts to contact them, but got no response. All attempts to make it public were silenced.
P.S. The clan in question has been known to have developers in it's membership since before the NA server launched.