I will gladly watch people die in other countries rather than here, in fact I think that was the point... Don't cry me a river about 1600+ people having died, that isn't even half of the people who died in 9/11... I would much rather see people die in other countries than here, that may be selfish, but so what, we don't deserve to have innocent Americans killed here on our soil... Saddam Hussein was indeed the next Hitler, we just didn't want to see another 'Munich' unfold where we catered to another ruthless dictator... Would you rather have seen millions of Kurdish slaughtered off like the Holocaust? It would have happened, in fact he was already planning it... Saddam used chemical warfare on his own people, killing tens of thousands of Kurds... This is one of his most serious charges he faces in fact... Again, you need to do more research before you call Iraq* (notice spelling) based on a lie...
Most independant estimates of the Iraqi civilian casualties since the US led coalition invaded Iraq to depose Saddam Hussein are actually in the hundreds of thousands, even the US governments own estimate puts the figure at several tens of thousands.
When Saddam Hussein was killing Kurds with chemical weapons it was during the 1980's when his regime was actively being backed by the US and several other western countries, mine included. These atrocities were ignored at the time as Iraq was being financially backed by the west in its war against Iran. Lets also not forget that George Bush Sr also appealed to the Iraqi people to rebel during the Gulf War, promising to provide military backing, and promptly failed to live upto his word when they did thus leading to more civilian casualties that could have been avoided.
Lets also not forget the whole Al-Qaeda issue, they were originally an extremist movement that was expelled from Saudi Arabia for their views. Only to be given money and military training by the west in order to hinder the USSR's attempts at taking control of Afghanistan. Had the CIA and other agencies monitored and isolated Al-Qaeda instead of funding them we could have possibly avoided the events of 9/11, as well as the Madrid and London bombings.
Unfortunately, we are now left trying to tidy up such problems that have resulted from 25+ years of misguided and ill-thoughtout interference by western governments.
PS. America didnt invent the computer; the first electronic computer was developed in Bletchley Park in the UK during WW2 to decrypt the German Enigma codes, called Colossus. Due to documents relating to the device being classified by the US and UK governments for many decades the American ENIAC machine claimed that title even though it wasnt in fact the first. The first mechanical computing device was technically the Difference Engine which was designed by Charles Babbage in the 1800's, an Englishman incase you wondered.
At least someone (shilak) has been going to a "better" school or knows alittle more than average.
About the only darn person who is smart enough to point out that Western Nations, including US were the one's who supported the Al-Qaeda in the first place, to prevent former USSR from occupying Afghanistan, which by the way is a Strategical Location. Why a strategic location? Had the USSR had any kind of sphere of influence over the Arabian People it would have been a threat to the Western Nations, as Cold-War was still the hot-issue back then.
GRIND sucks? You wanna be max level in a month? Since when did society award easy-goers and lazy-fools? MAKES ME PHOBIC OF STUPIDITY!
Originally posted by claith Shilak,you are seriously retarded,lmao What crack pipe you been hitting???wayching too much bullshit tv and believing it,....you have'nt got a clue wtf is going on girly...get a life,and learn the real facts before you open that craphole of a mouth.
Sorry to tell you, but what have you been smoking? Too retarded to have gone to a "better" school to learn about history? If you even had half the intellect to go to one of top ten schools in the "USA", you'd know every bit of what Shilak has commented is true.
And what bullshit tv? You mean the one's you watch? Like every other channel in the US that's over-censored besides C-span 1&2 or PBS? LMAO
GRIND sucks? You wanna be max level in a month? Since when did society award easy-goers and lazy-fools? MAKES ME PHOBIC OF STUPIDITY!
Sounds like another quasi-educated poster taking your freedom for granted... Make no mistake about it, we are the country with the most freedom anywhere in the world... Being a slave is still a slave. Just because you have more perks then the other slaves does not make it something to praise about. Waco and Tiannamen? WTF? How can these two be compared at all? If anything, you have proven a point of why America is so free, let me break your fallacy of an argument down for you: How can you compare these two... The government slaughtering of people is one where you could start I guess. Oh, and the amusing part of it all is. Even those people in Tiannamen square were warned to leave. You could also even say they were disturbing the peace(I know. harsh. Especially since I assume you live in the United States. Which is all about freedom of speech and the ability to peacefully protest). The people in waco...They were odd. But minding their own business. There was never any sign of dangerous behavior. Except if you consider themselves being heavily armed(something that is protected by the 2nd ammendment. And in fact was put there to stop things like THAT from happening!). Waco was the result of America's tolerance to ALL religions... Errr. Wrong. Waco was partly the result of the BATF wanting to capitalize on taking down a religious group that many did not understand, and thus what you don't understand, are easily coerced into thinking they are dangerous. Hence the reason of why previous allegations of them doing things like being abusive to children, were even taken with any credibility, without proof. David Koresh's movement was always on the radar as an 'extremist' religion, the Branch Davidians made no attempts to hide their beliefs, just as the hard core Mormons, KKK, Neo-Nazis and extremist Islam groups in America do currently... I mean geez...God man. They were an odd sect of the Seventh Day Adventist. So then you automatically correlate them with dangerous groups like the KKK and Neo-Nazi's? Before spouting such remarks as being "quasi-educated", maybe you yourself should take your own advice about "checking facts" and quit feeding into every little tidbit the government throws at you. In any other country, these groups would have been punished, jailed or deported (the Brits are deporting Muslims on a wholesale level now after London bombings), but here in America we have a Muslim giving a speech to the 911 victims in a nationally televised prayer vigil after we watched whackos fly planes into buildings... I'm trying to see the point your making...But uhm. All i'm seeing you saying is pretty much, "They deport Muslims in other countries. Because they generalize, and see one of them doing bad, so they think all of them must do bad." Or even to the extreme of, "In other countries, particularly in the middle east, they kill, torture, and imprison those that don't fall in with their ideals. So we should be happy that we don't end up the same when we follow peculiar ideals." Oh wait...oops. That did happen. You need to check your facts bro, and spare us from your marquee knee-jerk comments that simply lump America's faults into a convenient argument for you to make, with zero credibility... Mine as well watch 'A Current Affair' to match your level of current event know-how... Jesus... Sorry. I guess I should turn into a "Patriotic" Puppet, so that I may become automatically enlightened.
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By the way...There's no wrong in eliminating certain people because their ideas are alittle different, right? At least that's what humanity has tended to do over the centuries and milleniums of it's history. ^^ It's also the reason why the Vatican got rid of (executed) all those 2nd degree believers back a few hundred years ago. ^^ So what's the Vatican's influence in the World now compared to back then? What's the Vatican's image in world with all those child-molestors LOL? At least the Vatican now try to atone for their so-called "sins". Must also be the reason why the USA feels so much pressure from all directions lately. ^^
And don't tell me there's a difference in tolerance or to what extent, between what they did and what we have done. It's not "we" who decide what is right and wrong, but rather time and place. Everything humanity does is based on populism...thus what is favorably viewed in its point of history.
GRIND sucks? You wanna be max level in a month? Since when did society award easy-goers and lazy-fools? MAKES ME PHOBIC OF STUPIDITY!
this is crazy, first the pvp below 18 years isn't allowed anymore, and now this. i personaly think their going to far, your taking away people's freedom.
Um the Chinese dont have alot of freedom there smart guy. You must be one of those who suffers from "the whole world is like the USA" syndrome.
for your information, i don't live in the USA. in fact, i'f never been to the USA. and i know they don't have a lot of freedom, i just said my oppinion.
I think it will. Atleast the private/small company farmers who can't afford to move all staff out of China. But big companies like IGE will keep going I guess.
The truth of the matter is things are changing in China and it no longer fits the picture of a communist dictatorship anymore. However, it seems it has not entirely come to terms with civil rights yet. A 3 hour limit is unacceptable. Any player playing WoW with a high level char can tell you that endgame content (i.e. dungeon instances) can take 4-7 hours straight off your time. Chinese players are banned from that now.
There is no law dissalowing TV watching for hours and researches have shown that millions of people spend upwards of 10 hours a day sitting in front of it like vegetables. I do not see why MMOs and games in general are once again "evil" while other things are not. And indeed if a player only has a Sunday to spend in his favourite MMO, I do not see why he should not have the right to.
And as far as the US goes, I am surprised that people whine about "everyone hating the US" while it goes on to bomb and occupy wherever it pleases in the name of "freedom" using imagined weapons or terrorists as an excuse. China never bombed anyone and neither does the "superpower" EU.
Originally posted by carttune its kinda funny, tho as suggested already work arounds will be easy, all you have to do is get enough characters to cover the day
...or enough games for that matter! Stop playing WoW, launch EQ2, then SWG and start over. Repeat.
I dont agree with China's policy 100% but you must have some factors in mind. Someone stated that only 18yo~21yo people should get this restriction and not adults since they are old enough to know what to do.. sadly the death or negligence cases we hear due to MMORPG overplay happen with adults.. i remember 3 cases, someone that died after a 50hours non-stop-gameplay, a couple that left their 4month baby at home alone for 9hours straight, finding him dead when they arrived home and someone who pursued his online friend and killed him due to a online weapon steal. Now, these cases are korean if I'm not wrong but if similiar ones happen in China, what can a country do to prevent this? Most of you may not know that from what I know, China is the only country that has a internet-dependent-clinic for those whith addiction to internet gameplay. Gameplay in asian countries take scary proportions..
I dont play more then 4~5 hours daily normaly, but I can some occasional day play 10~14hours.. now, koreans can play 19hours everyday if possible.. so, you see.. there aint much that a country can do to stop this other then implement rules against it..
Only way I see of this happening is to the ISP catch the client's IP that is connecting to a certain game server IP and after 5hours daily block it. This way, hardly anyone will be able to use multiple accounts because remember, its not gonna be the game's company to block this situations but the country involved's ISP companies themselfs.
Being a slave is still a slave. Just because you have more perks then the other slaves does not make it something to praise about. How can you compare these two... The government slaughtering of people is one where you could start I guess. Oh, and the amusing part of it all is. Even those people in Tiannamen square were warned to leave. You could also even say they were disturbing the peace(I know. harsh. Especially since I assume you live in the United States. Which is all about freedom of speech and the ability to peacefully protest). The people in waco...They were odd. But minding their own business. There was never any sign of dangerous behavior. Except if you consider themselves being heavily armed(something that is protected by the 2nd ammendment. And in fact was put there to stop things like THAT from happening!). Errr. Wrong. Waco was partly the result of the BATF wanting to capitalize on taking down a religious group that many did not understand, and thus what you don't understand, are easily coerced into thinking they are dangerous. Hence the reason of why previous allegations of them doing things like being abusive to children, were even taken with any credibility, without proof. I mean geez...God man. They were an odd sect of the Seventh Day Adventist. So then you automatically correlate them with dangerous groups like the KKK and Neo-Nazi's? Before spouting such remarks as being "quasi-educated", maybe you yourself should take your own advice about "checking facts" and quit feeding into every little tidbit the government throws at you. I'm trying to see the point your making...But uhm. All i'm seeing you saying is pretty much, "They deport Muslims in other countries. Because they generalize, and see one of them doing bad, so they think all of them must do bad." Or even to the extreme of, "In other countries, particularly in the middle east, they kill, torture, and imprison those that don't fall in with their ideals. So we should be happy that we don't end up the same when we follow peculiar ideals." Oh wait...oops. That did happen. Sorry. I guess I should turn into a "Patriotic" Puppet, so that I may become automatically enlightened.
Everyone take heed to this post... Complete and 100% BS... It must be nice to be able to assemble together sentences and words that are striking and inflammatory, while not actually delivering any concrete points or valid arguments... lol, he actually said the people in Waco were "minding their own business", from that point on, I didn't even bother reading the rest of what you had to say... They had a stockpile of weapons in their compound, were forcing marriage upon minors, observing a fate and prophecy that ended with David Koresh as the savior and a bloody conflict with anyone who opposed... Minding their own business? You sure about that bro? When I think 'minding my own business', I think of me maybe reading a book, playing with my kid or playing EQ2... I don't think of me sitting in a room naked, brandishing my AK 47, spouting off insane religious rhetoric while trying to convince a 16 year old girl that if she blows me, she can be saved...
Also, America did invent the computer, it was the evolution of the integrated circuit that allowed for CPU's to come into existence... Actually that was invented in good ole' Minnesota, where I live!
Originally posted by Dis_Ordur Everyone take heed to this post... Complete and 100% BS... It must be nice to be able to assemble together sentences and words that are striking and inflammatory, while not actually delivering any concrete points or valid arguments... lol, he actually said the people in Waco were "minding their own business", from that point on, I didn't even bother reading the rest of what you had to say... They had a stockpile of weapons in their compound, were forcing marriage upon minors, observing a fate and prophecy that ended with David Koresh as the savior and a bloody conflict with anyone who opposed... Minding their own business? You sure about that bro? When I think 'minding my own business', I think of me maybe reading a book, playing with my kid or playing EQ2... I don't think of me sitting in a room naked, brandishing my AK 47, spouting off insane religious rhetoric while trying to convince a 16 year old girl that if she blows me, she can be saved...
Also, America did invent the computer, it was the evolution of the integrated circuit that allowed for CPU's to come into existence... Actually that was invented in good ole' Minnesota, where I live!
Nice you respond to a post calling it complete BS with your on complete BS. Prolly not your fault. Perhaps your local government feeding it to you.
Konrad Zuse (1910-1995) was a construction engineer for the Henschel Aircraft Company in Berlin, Germany at the beginning of WWII. Konrad Zuse earned the semiofficial title of "inventor of the modern computer" for his series of automatic calculators, which he invented to help him with his lengthy engineering calculations. Zuse has modestly dismissed the title while praising many of the inventions of his contemporaries and successors as being equally if not more important than his own.
In 1936, Zuse made a mechanical calculator called the Z1, the first binary computer. Zuse used it to explore several groundbreaking technologies in calculator development: floating-point arithmetic, high-capacity memory and modules or relays operating on the yes/no principle. Zuse's ideas, not fully implemented in the Z1, succeeded more with each Z prototype.
In 1939, Zuse completed the Z2, the first fully functioning electro-mechanical computer.
Konrad Zuse completed the Z3 in 1941, with recycled materials donated by fellow university staff and students. This was the world's first electronic, fully programmable digital computer based on a binary floating-point number and switching system. Zuse used old movie film to store his programs and data for the Z3, instead of using paper tape or punched cards. Paper was in short supply in Germany during the war.
According to "The Life and Work of Konrad Zuse" (by Horst Zuse)
John Bardeen, William Shockley, and Walter Brattain, scientists at the Bell Telephone Laboratories in Murray Hill, New Jersey,
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Jack S. Kilby Born: Jefferson City, MO, November 8, 1923 Died: Dallas, TX, June 20, 2005
1958- Texas Instruments Incorporated, Dallas, TX
Responsible for development of modular and integrated circuit assemblies. During this period the integrated circuit concept became an invention and was developed as a commercial product.
NOT Minnesota! Only thing Minnesota is known for is having a football team that had as many chances to win a superbowl as the Bills did and lost every single one of them. lO$ER
Does the discussion of who invented what actually have a point, apart from the general historic interest?
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Originally posted by Dis_Ordur Everyone take heed to this post... Complete and 100% BS... It must be nice to be able to assemble together sentences and words that are striking and inflammatory, while not actually delivering any concrete points or valid arguments... lol, he actually said the people in Waco were "minding their own business", from that point on, I didn't even bother reading the rest of what you had to say... They had a stockpile of weapons in their compound, were forcing marriage upon minors, observing a fate and prophecy that ended with David Koresh as the savior and a bloody conflict with anyone who opposed... Minding their own business? You sure about that bro? When I think 'minding my own business', I think of me maybe reading a book, playing with my kid or playing EQ2... I don't think of me sitting in a room naked, brandishing my AK 47, spouting off insane religious rhetoric while trying to convince a 16 year old girl that if she blows me, she can be saved...
Also, America did invent the computer, it was the evolution of the integrated circuit that allowed for CPU's to come into existence... Actually that was invented in good ole' Minnesota, where I live!
Nice you respond to a post calling it complete BS with your on complete BS. Prolly not your fault. Perhaps your local government feeding it to you.
Konrad Zuse (1910-1995) was a construction engineer for the Henschel Aircraft Company in Berlin, Germany at the beginning of WWII. Konrad Zuse earned the semiofficial title of "inventor of the modern computer" for his series of automatic calculators, which he invented to help him with his lengthy engineering calculations. Zuse has modestly dismissed the title while praising many of the inventions of his contemporaries and successors as being equally if not more important than his own.
In 1936, Zuse made a mechanical calculator called the Z1, the first binary computer. Zuse used it to explore several groundbreaking technologies in calculator development: floating-point arithmetic, high-capacity memory and modules or relays operating on the yes/no principle. Zuse's ideas, not fully implemented in the Z1, succeeded more with each Z prototype.
In 1939, Zuse completed the Z2, the first fully functioning electro-mechanical computer.
Konrad Zuse completed the Z3 in 1941, with recycled materials donated by fellow university staff and students. This was the world's first electronic, fully programmable digital computer based on a binary floating-point number and switching system. Zuse used old movie film to store his programs and data for the Z3, instead of using paper tape or punched cards. Paper was in short supply in Germany during the war.
According to "The Life and Work of Konrad Zuse" (by Horst Zuse)
John Bardeen, William Shockley, and Walter Brattain, scientists at the Bell Telephone Laboratories in Murray Hill, New Jersey,
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Jack S. Kilby Born: Jefferson City, MO, November 8, 1923 Died: Dallas, TX, June 20, 2005
1958- Texas Instruments Incorporated, Dallas, TX
Responsible for development of modular and integrated circuit assemblies. During this period the integrated circuit concept became an invention and was developed as a commercial product.
NOT Minnesota! Only thing Minnesota is known for is having a football team that had as many chances to win a superbowl as the Bills did and lost every single one of them. lO$ER
Seymour Cray may be the worlds best known computer designer, and his name is still synonymous with the development of high speed computing. Cray was born in Chippewa Falls, Wisconsin in 1925. He earned a bachelor of science degree in electrical engineering from the University of Minnesota in 1950 and a master of science degree in applied mathematics a year later.
Now, we can get into a google war, or we can agree to disagree... Your dude invented a calculator, this guy took it to the next level and helped develop computers as we know it, not a glorified calculator... And damn you for slamming my Vikes, DAMN YOU TO HELL!!!!!
A calculator is a exact copy of the computer you are sitting on typing that bs. Just on a smaller scale. It's a eletronic cirquit operated by 0's and 1's, you shiny Intel or AMD does the exactly same thing.
Originally posted by Phoenixs A calculator is a exact copy of the computer you are sitting on typing that bs. Just on a smaller scale. It's a eletronic cirquit operated by 0's and 1's, you shiny Intel or AMD does the exactly same thing.
Are you completely hellbent on trying to refute every last one of my posts? Would you like me more if I told you I like Norwegian death metal?
No I'm not. I just have corrected you a couple of times. I like swedish and finnish heave metal more than Norwegian But Norwegian is decent, what bands you like? :P Maybe abit to much off topic. I think I should stop posting here now, who knows where this topic ends.
Originally posted by Phoenixs No I'm not. I just have corrected you a couple of times. I like swedish and finnish heave metal more than Norwegian But Norwegian is decent, what bands you like? :P Maybe abit to much off topic. I think I should stop posting here now, who knows where this topic ends.
The Swedes are by far my favorite place for Metal, In Flames and Soilwork are damn good... I also like Samael, they are Swiss, IMO they are the best metal band of all time... As for the Norse bands, Immortal was awesome... A lot of the stuff from Norway is straight up black metal... I started reading "Lords of Chaos", it was horribly written so I couldn't finish it though.... If I am not mistaken, Varg was from Norway? You probably heard about church bombings and murders committed in the name of black metal, messed up stuff...
On a side note, this thread has covered quite a bit of ground here!!
I guess you all forgot about the analytic calculator (not sure on the name, but basically an analog counting and categorizing computer.) used by U.S. Fedgov to split the time to calculate the national census in half. It was used to count some basic demographics with punch cards that were sent to families in 1880. Oh, and if my memory isn't too terribly faulty, I beleive E.N.I.A.C. was the first industrial calaculator built, again, by U.S. Fedgov, for the purpose of calculating firing solutions for the navy.
this is crazy, first the pvp below 18 years isn't allowed anymore, and now this. i personaly think their going to far, your taking away people's freedom.
Duh, they're the biggest civil rights violator in the world and they don't even try to hide it. C'mon, think, Tieniman square. They've rolled tanks on civilian protestors and they don't deny it.
Originally posted by Dis_Ordur Originally posted by Phoenixs No I'm not. I just have corrected you a couple of times. I like swedish and finnish heave metal more than Norwegian But Norwegian is decent, what bands you like? :P Maybe abit to much off topic. I think I should stop posting here now, who knows where this topic ends. The Swedes are by far my favorite place for Metal, In Flames and Soilwork are damn good... I also like Samael, they are Swiss, IMO they are the best metal band of all time... As for the Norse bands, Immortal was awesome... A lot of the stuff from Norway is straight up black metal... I started reading "Lords of Chaos", it was horribly written so I couldn't finish it though.... If I am not mistaken, Varg was from Norway? You probably heard about church bombings and murders committed in the name of black metal, messed up stuff... On a side note, this thread has covered quite a bit of ground here!!
I love In Flames and Soilwork awesome bands. I haven't heard of that swiss band though. Yeah alot of the metal stuff in Norway is very hardcore, abit to much for my taste. Not to many years ago some black metal people burned down a church. It has also happened that they have slaughtered animals in churches and covered the walls with the blood. And there has been 1 really bad case where a couple of psychos did stuff to human bodies that where in a Church. I think Varg was from Norway yes. Varg is a Norwegian name atleast.
Everyone take heed to this post... Complete and 100% BS... It must be nice to be able to assemble together sentences and words that are striking and inflammatory, while not actually delivering any concrete points or valid arguments...
My point is already made. You through some kind of sheepish blind following of what the government tells you is so, seems to just try to avoid it. If you think I'm so full of BS. Why don't you start by refuting me with these...counter-facts, so to speak. Instead of going on some rhetoric tantrum of that you think the guy is some crazy that believes differently than you, so he deserved to get slaughtered.
lol, he actually said the people in Waco were "minding their own business", from that point on, I didn't even bother reading the rest of what you had to say...
Maybe you should, because you seem rather ill-informed on the situation, other than what was handfed to you by the media.
They had a stockpile of weapons in their compound,
Oh no! They had guns...The unpardonable sin! Oh wait... Amendment II, "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."
Shocking...I know.
were forcing marriage upon minors, observing a fate and prophecy that ended with David Koresh as the savior and a bloody conflict with anyone who opposed...
Again...Handfed more lies. David Koresh never believed he was the savior. He believed he was a prophet that would bring about the Second coming of Christ.
Minding their own business? You sure about that bro? When I think 'minding my own business', I think of me maybe reading a book, playing with my kid or playing EQ2...
Really? Because I think of not infringing on someone elses rights...
I don't think of me sitting in a room naked, brandishing my AK 47, spouting off insane religious rhetoric while trying to convince a 16 year old girl that if she blows me, she can be saved...
Lets see...Sitting in a room naked.
Nope, not illegal.
Brandishing a Ak-47 in your own residences. Hrmm...Again, not illegal.
Spouting off whatever crazy rhetoric...Well. Lets just say I could say the moon is made out of cheese and if we eat it we'll all become god's, and I still wouldn't have any probable legal action taken against me.
As for that sexual remark. Yes, there were allegations of arranged marriages and the like. And possibly there were cases of STATUTORY rape. But last time I checked that didn't warrant a wholesale slaughter of 21 children and 54 adults.
P.S. Next time when you say someones post is BS...But yet didn't even "bother reading the rest", but then yet again change your mindset by giving "validity" to what you think is worthless, by having a following post filled with nothing but opinion of what you think: just next time, that is if there will be a next time if you decide to attempt a rebuttal(and no. This post that you wrote that I am replying to, was not a rebuttal), dig up some facts.
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Most independant estimates of the Iraqi civilian casualties since the US led coalition invaded Iraq to depose Saddam Hussein are actually in the hundreds of thousands, even the US governments own estimate puts the figure at several tens of thousands.
When Saddam Hussein was killing Kurds with chemical weapons it was during the 1980's when his regime was actively being backed by the US and several other western countries, mine included. These atrocities were ignored at the time as Iraq was being financially backed by the west in its war against Iran. Lets also not forget that George Bush Sr also appealed to the Iraqi people to rebel during the Gulf War, promising to provide military backing, and promptly failed to live upto his word when they did thus leading to more civilian casualties that could have been avoided.
Lets also not forget the whole Al-Qaeda issue, they were originally an extremist movement that was expelled from Saudi Arabia for their views. Only to be given money and military training by the west in order to hinder the USSR's attempts at taking control of Afghanistan. Had the CIA and other agencies monitored and isolated Al-Qaeda instead of funding them we could have possibly avoided the events of 9/11, as well as the Madrid and London bombings.
Unfortunately, we are now left trying to tidy up such problems that have resulted from 25+ years of misguided and ill-thoughtout interference by western governments.
PS. America didnt invent the computer; the first electronic computer was developed in Bletchley Park in the UK during WW2 to decrypt the German Enigma codes, called Colossus. Due to documents relating to the device being classified by the US and UK governments for many decades the American ENIAC machine claimed that title even though it wasnt in fact the first. The first mechanical computing device was technically the Difference Engine which was designed by Charles Babbage in the 1800's, an Englishman incase you wondered.
At least someone (shilak) has been going to a "better" school or knows alittle more than average.
About the only darn person who is smart enough to point out that Western Nations, including US were the one's who supported the Al-Qaeda in the first place, to prevent former USSR from occupying Afghanistan, which by the way is a Strategical Location. Why a strategic location? Had the USSR had any kind of sphere of influence over the Arabian People it would have been a threat to the Western Nations, as Cold-War was still the hot-issue back then.
GRIND sucks? You wanna be max level in a month?
Since when did society award easy-goers and lazy-fools?
MAKES ME PHOBIC OF STUPIDITY!
Sorry to tell you, but what have you been smoking? Too retarded to have gone to a "better" school to learn about history? If you even had half the intellect to go to one of top ten schools in the "USA", you'd know every bit of what Shilak has commented is true.
And what bullshit tv? You mean the one's you watch? Like every other channel in the US that's over-censored besides C-span 1&2 or PBS? LMAO
GRIND sucks? You wanna be max level in a month?
Since when did society award easy-goers and lazy-fools?
MAKES ME PHOBIC OF STUPIDITY!
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By the way...There's no wrong in eliminating certain people because their ideas are alittle different, right? At least that's what humanity has tended to do over the centuries and milleniums of it's history. ^^ It's also the reason why the Vatican got rid of (executed) all those 2nd degree believers back a few hundred years ago. ^^ So what's the Vatican's influence in the World now compared to back then? What's the Vatican's image in world with all those child-molestors LOL? At least the Vatican now try to atone for their so-called "sins". Must also be the reason why the USA feels so much pressure from all directions lately. ^^
And don't tell me there's a difference in tolerance or to what extent, between what they did and what we have done. It's not "we" who decide what is right and wrong, but rather time and place. Everything humanity does is based on populism...thus what is favorably viewed in its point of history.
GRIND sucks? You wanna be max level in a month?
Since when did society award easy-goers and lazy-fools?
MAKES ME PHOBIC OF STUPIDITY!
Damn commies! Now they are turning us against each other.
word to that...idk what i would do if our government made something like that up
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for your information, i don't live in the USA. in fact, i'f never been to the USA.
and i know they don't have a lot of freedom, i just said my oppinion.
Hope this will somewhat affect farmers =/
I think it will. Atleast the private/small company farmers who can't afford to move all staff out of China. But big companies like IGE will keep going I guess.
The truth of the matter is things are changing in China and it no longer fits the picture of a communist dictatorship anymore. However, it seems it has not entirely come to terms with civil rights yet. A 3 hour limit is unacceptable. Any player playing WoW with a high level char can tell you that endgame content (i.e. dungeon instances) can take 4-7 hours straight off your time. Chinese players are banned from that now.
There is no law dissalowing TV watching for hours and researches have shown that millions of people spend upwards of 10 hours a day sitting in front of it like vegetables. I do not see why MMOs and games in general are once again "evil" while other things are not. And indeed if a player only has a Sunday to spend in his favourite MMO, I do not see why he should not have the right to.
And as far as the US goes, I am surprised that people whine about "everyone hating the US" while it goes on to bomb and occupy wherever it pleases in the name of "freedom" using imagined weapons or terrorists as an excuse. China never bombed anyone and neither does the "superpower" EU.
...or enough games for that matter! Stop playing WoW, launch EQ2, then SWG and start over. Repeat.
I dont agree with China's policy 100% but you must have some factors in mind. Someone stated that only 18yo~21yo people should get this restriction and not adults since they are old enough to know what to do.. sadly the death or negligence cases we hear due to MMORPG overplay happen with adults.. i remember 3 cases, someone that died after a 50hours non-stop-gameplay, a couple that left their 4month baby at home alone for 9hours straight, finding him dead when they arrived home and someone who pursued his online friend and killed him due to a online weapon steal. Now, these cases are korean if I'm not wrong but if similiar ones happen in China, what can a country do to prevent this? Most of you may not know that from what I know, China is the only country that has a internet-dependent-clinic for those whith addiction to internet gameplay. Gameplay in asian countries take scary proportions..
I dont play more then 4~5 hours daily normaly, but I can some occasional day play 10~14hours.. now, koreans can play 19hours everyday if possible.. so, you see.. there aint much that a country can do to stop this other then implement rules against it..
Only way I see of this happening is to the ISP catch the client's IP that is connecting to a certain game server IP and after 5hours daily block it. This way, hardly anyone will be able to use multiple accounts because remember, its not gonna be the game's company to block this situations but the country involved's ISP companies themselfs.
Everyone take heed to this post... Complete and 100% BS... It must be nice to be able to assemble together sentences and words that are striking and inflammatory, while not actually delivering any concrete points or valid arguments... lol, he actually said the people in Waco were "minding their own business", from that point on, I didn't even bother reading the rest of what you had to say... They had a stockpile of weapons in their compound, were forcing marriage upon minors, observing a fate and prophecy that ended with David Koresh as the savior and a bloody conflict with anyone who opposed... Minding their own business? You sure about that bro? When I think 'minding my own business', I think of me maybe reading a book, playing with my kid or playing EQ2... I don't think of me sitting in a room naked, brandishing my AK 47, spouting off insane religious rhetoric while trying to convince a 16 year old girl that if she blows me, she can be saved...
Also, America did invent the computer, it was the evolution of the integrated circuit that allowed for CPU's to come into existence... Actually that was invented in good ole' Minnesota, where I live!
Well this should effect the WoW enocomy. =/
Dray
Also, America did invent the computer, it was the evolution of the integrated circuit that allowed for CPU's to come into existence... Actually that was invented in good ole' Minnesota, where I live!
Nice you respond to a post calling it complete BS with your on complete BS. Prolly not your fault. Perhaps your local government feeding it to you.
Konrad Zuse (1910-1995) was a construction engineer for the Henschel Aircraft Company in Berlin, Germany at the beginning of WWII. Konrad Zuse earned the semiofficial title of "inventor of the modern computer" for his series of automatic calculators, which he invented to help him with his lengthy engineering calculations. Zuse has modestly dismissed the title while praising many of the inventions of his contemporaries and successors as being equally if not more important than his own.
In 1936, Zuse made a mechanical calculator called the Z1, the first binary computer. Zuse used it to explore several groundbreaking technologies in calculator development: floating-point arithmetic, high-capacity memory and modules or relays operating on the yes/no principle. Zuse's ideas, not fully implemented in the Z1, succeeded more with each Z prototype.
In 1939, Zuse completed the Z2, the first fully functioning electro-mechanical computer.
Konrad Zuse completed the Z3 in 1941, with recycled materials donated by fellow university staff and students. This was the world's first electronic, fully programmable digital computer based on a binary floating-point number and switching system. Zuse used old movie film to store his programs and data for the Z3, instead of using paper tape or punched cards. Paper was in short supply in Germany during the war.
According to "The Life and Work of Konrad Zuse" (by Horst Zuse)
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1947/48
Transistor
John Bardeen, William Shockley, and Walter Brattain, scientists at the Bell Telephone Laboratories in Murray Hill, New Jersey,
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Jack S. Kilby
Born: Jefferson City, MO, November 8, 1923
Died: Dallas, TX, June 20, 2005
1958- Texas Instruments Incorporated, Dallas, TX
Responsible for development of modular and integrated circuit assemblies. During this period the integrated circuit concept became an invention and was developed as a commercial product.
NOT Minnesota! Only thing Minnesota is known for is having a football team that had as many chances to win a superbowl as the Bills did and lost every single one of them. lO$ER
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Dray
Does the discussion of who invented what actually have a point, apart from the general historic interest?
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* City of Heroes: Deggial, Assault Rifle/Devices Blaster. Server: Defiant.
* City of Villains: Snakeroot, Plant/Thorns Dominator. Server: Defiant.
Also, America did invent the computer, it was the evolution of the integrated circuit that allowed for CPU's to come into existence... Actually that was invented in good ole' Minnesota, where I live!
Nice you respond to a post calling it complete BS with your on complete BS. Prolly not your fault. Perhaps your local government feeding it to you.
Konrad Zuse (1910-1995) was a construction engineer for the Henschel Aircraft Company in Berlin, Germany at the beginning of WWII. Konrad Zuse earned the semiofficial title of "inventor of the modern computer" for his series of automatic calculators, which he invented to help him with his lengthy engineering calculations. Zuse has modestly dismissed the title while praising many of the inventions of his contemporaries and successors as being equally if not more important than his own.
In 1936, Zuse made a mechanical calculator called the Z1, the first binary computer. Zuse used it to explore several groundbreaking technologies in calculator development: floating-point arithmetic, high-capacity memory and modules or relays operating on the yes/no principle. Zuse's ideas, not fully implemented in the Z1, succeeded more with each Z prototype.
In 1939, Zuse completed the Z2, the first fully functioning electro-mechanical computer.
Konrad Zuse completed the Z3 in 1941, with recycled materials donated by fellow university staff and students. This was the world's first electronic, fully programmable digital computer based on a binary floating-point number and switching system. Zuse used old movie film to store his programs and data for the Z3, instead of using paper tape or punched cards. Paper was in short supply in Germany during the war.
According to "The Life and Work of Konrad Zuse" (by Horst Zuse)
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1947/48
Transistor
John Bardeen, William Shockley, and Walter Brattain, scientists at the Bell Telephone Laboratories in Murray Hill, New Jersey,
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Jack S. Kilby
Born: Jefferson City, MO, November 8, 1923
Died: Dallas, TX, June 20, 2005
1958- Texas Instruments Incorporated, Dallas, TX
Responsible for development of modular and integrated circuit assemblies. During this period the integrated circuit concept became an invention and was developed as a commercial product.
NOT Minnesota! Only thing Minnesota is known for is having a football team that had as many chances to win a superbowl as the Bills did and lost every single one of them. lO$ER
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You know the Cray computer? Check this out:
About Seymour Cray
Seymour Cray may be the worlds best known computer designer, and his name is still synonymous with the development of high speed computing. Cray was born in Chippewa Falls, Wisconsin in 1925. He earned a bachelor of science degree in electrical engineering from the University of Minnesota in 1950 and a master of science degree in applied mathematics a year later.
Now, we can get into a google war, or we can agree to disagree... Your dude invented a calculator, this guy took it to the next level and helped develop computers as we know it, not a glorified calculator... And damn you for slamming my Vikes, DAMN YOU TO HELL!!!!!
A calculator is a exact copy of the computer you are sitting on typing that bs. Just on a smaller scale. It's a eletronic cirquit operated by 0's and 1's, you shiny Intel or AMD does the exactly same thing.
No I'm not. I just have corrected you a couple of times. I like swedish and finnish heave metal more than Norwegian
But Norwegian is decent, what bands you like? :P Maybe abit to much off topic. I think I should stop posting here now, who knows where this topic ends.
The Swedes are by far my favorite place for Metal, In Flames and Soilwork are damn good... I also like Samael, they are Swiss, IMO they are the best metal band of all time... As for the Norse bands, Immortal was awesome... A lot of the stuff from Norway is straight up black metal... I started reading "Lords of Chaos", it was horribly written so I couldn't finish it though.... If I am not mistaken, Varg was from Norway? You probably heard about church bombings and murders committed in the name of black metal, messed up stuff...
On a side note, this thread has covered quite a bit of ground here!!
I love In Flames and Soilwork awesome bands. I haven't heard of that swiss band though. Yeah alot of the metal stuff in Norway is very hardcore, abit to much for my taste. Not to many years ago some black metal people burned down a church. It has also happened that they have slaughtered animals in churches and covered the walls with the blood. And there has been 1 really bad case where a couple of psychos did stuff to human bodies that where in a Church. I think Varg was from Norway yes. Varg is a Norwegian name atleast.
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