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This thread was about the Universalist church not thinking homosexuality is a sin, but i see that has changed.
There have been many threads promoting other religions saying that gays are going to hell, I'm sorry if this thread doesn't pertain to your beleifs but you have the right to debate that, if not well leave others alone
Thank you and Good bye.
I hope some day we can all put aside our racisms and prejudices and just laugh at people
Posts on a gaming forum, about religion and gays, does not top my lists of important things. Washing my car seems more pressing and important than any of these ignorant posts.
Now that you know, are you glad?
Lath
This is Off topic so we can post what we want, and if you think that washing your car is so important than make a topic about washing your car instead of flaming this thread
oh and I am glad
-Corn
I hope some day we can all put aside our racisms and prejudices and just laugh at people
"Fear not death; for the sooner we die, the longer shall we be immortal."
Posts on a gaming forum, about religion and gays, does not top my lists of important things. Washing my car seems more pressing and important than any of these ignorant posts.
Now that you know, are you glad?
Lath
This is Off topic so we can post what we want, and if you think that washing your car is so important than make a topic about washing your car instead of flaming this thread
oh and I am glad
-Corn
I am a member of this church-
One day, after I was assaulted by teenages on this forum, I asked the preacher for his advice on what to do.
He told me that I should turn the other cheek
I thought about it for a moment, and knowing his sexual preference, i asked him " which cheek?"
Lath
There is no answer to some of those questions. Those are questions to be posed to a person that follows a religion such as Christianity or Islam. I don't follow those religions. I'm not scared to answer any question. I just didn't see where answering those was relevant to anything that I was talking about.
1- What's your God's name? What does is matter what God's name is. I don't know. He has never told me what his name is. His name is irrelevant to anything he has to teach me. I can learn from a man on a street corner without ever speaking to him or learning his name. I can learn from watching people I don't even know. Are their names relevant to that lesson? Names are just labels put on things. God may not even have name. Does he need one?
ok so, you basically do not know who your God is, i Do know who my God is, see the difference in here?
2- What did he create? I know one thing he created. Me.
my God created everything, including the nature you're studying, including the universe and what it contains, including the black hole you hear about, see the difference in here too?
3- Did he send any prophets? I don't believe in prophets or magic. I told you this in my other statement. Just because some people get lucky in predicting what is going to happen does not make them a spokesperson for God.
my God have sent thousands of prophets, 25 of them are known to us by name, he sent them to guide them to the true path of salvation, as a mercy from him, see the difference in here too? my God is merciful, he sends prophets to guide people so they don't burn in hell.
4- If he did send prophets, what miracles did they do? what what was their names? I have never seen a miracle performed. So therefore, I'm not even sure they exist. And I said already I don't believe in prophets or men that can speak for God.
My God have aided his prophets with miracles, such as Jesus with his healing miracles, and moses who saved the childre of Israel from the pharoas with his miracles, and the prophet Mohammad who was aided with angels in battle against the savage pagans, and the prophet Noah with his ark, see the difference in here?
5- When was your religion made? When nature and the natural laws were made. Those are what I study and learn from. Those are what God has shown me and that I can for sure know are there from my own personal experience. But I don't consider myself a religious person. I am spiritual. Big difference. I call Universalist/Unitarian a religion in the loosest sense of the word. I'm really not even sure it is a religion sometimes as much as an organization of people who are tired of religion.
Religion is an english word, what we call religion in Arabic is Deen, which means the way of life, your way of life is spirituality, Islam's way of life is Morality, Spirituality, Life, and what's after death, see the difference in here?
6- What will your God offer me if i worship him? I don't worship God. I respect him and love him for making me. And I know he loves me. And I know I'm no equal to him, but I don't think he expects me to worship him. That's really something I don't think God needs. Worship is a word that comes from religion anyways. It shows that authoritative mindset again. Religions require worship to keep people in line.
then why did your God create you? for what? just like that? here you are and go loose do anything you want? why do humans make stuff? just like that?
we create items to use them, so we can benifit from them, God created humans so they would worship him so they can win his prize, Paradise, see the difference in here?
7- What kind of worship do i have to do to your God? None.
then how do you expect your God to accept your doings
8- Is there any afterlife in your religion? what's there after death? I don't know. I've never died. Unless I was reincarnated, in which case I don't remember. I think the Jews have nailed this whole afterlife debate. Jews don't worry about the afterlife. They just live their lives as best they can and let God take care of the afterlife stuff.
i didn't ask you about the jews, i asked you about your beliefs, i don't care about the jews, i care about you, so you're saying you don't have an after life?
in Islam, we live to die, so we can live again, either in paradise or hell, winners go to paradise, and losers go to hell, how do you lose and win? by knowing who your god is and worship him alone without any partners and obey his commandments.
see the difference between you and me here? i have been promised, you were not.
9- Do you believe in hell or heaven? if yes what's the purpose of their existance? I don't believe in hell. The invention of hell can be traced back to a specific time and place in the human record. It's a completely man made idea. The same as heaven. God has not shown me that there is a heaven so I don't know if it exists. However, I have learned about higher dimensions and think those may be a place we go after we die. I have a hard time believing God put us here just to disappear. But, maybe he did. Who knows.
then what's the point of out existance? if we're just going to live then go to other dimensions? what's the point of all of this?
10- What are the limites of your religion? the "you can't do stuff" Well, why not leave people alone? I don't believe in trampling on other people's freedoms. And I expect the same in return.
then let's kill each others and call it freedom? let's rape each others and call it freedom? let's steal from each others and call it freedom? let's step on each others and take each others' rights and call it freedom.
see where will your religion or spirituality get you, and then compare it with Islam's spirituality and having to respect the rights and life of the human beings, and limit the ways you do stuff so you don't harm anyone, see the difference?
11- Oh yeah, do you have any revelations from your God? like any texts that are very old like 2000++ years or something? Texts are things that man has written. And one man's revelation is not my revelation. If I have a revelation is mine personally. It is not another man's, for as soon as I share it, it has been trivialized. And how do I know that any man who says he has had a revelation is nothing more than a liar or stretching the truth? Revelations are personal if they exist at all.
that's why those who recieve revelations are called prophets, and they are supported with miracles from God to prove that they are correct, and are very wise and very respected.
see the difference?
12- i ran out of questions for now, but hopefull i will ask more later.
Based on your answers, i can easily tell, that Islam is far far far beyond far, better than your way of life or spirituality, much better.
at least i get something after i die, it's called paradise, you get nothing :}
so i get to keep my promise, you get to keep nothing.
see the difference?
MAN ITS FAINALLY HAPPENING THE SKY IS FALLING ..... GAY PEOPLE ARE TAKING OVER THE WORLD RUN FOR YOUR LIFE
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Even if I was wrong, which could be possible, were any of those men homosexuals? I highly doupt it, if so, give me the lovers name and a crediable source.
Originally posted by reavo
Second of all Corinthians 6:9 says Surely you know that the wicked
will not possess God's Kingdom. Do not fool yourselves; people who are
immoral or who worship idols or are adulterers or homosexual Perverts.
AT least get what it says in your own book correct.
EDIT: Not all homosexuals are perverts. Heterosexuals can be perverts too, proving your point wrong.
This one confuses me: Sleeping with a man if it was a woman is NOT
perverted? BTW, in my bible, it says homosexual offenders. How about
you get off my back? Both translations mean the same thing? In
Deuteronomy it says,
"Curses is the man who sleeps with a man if he was a woman!"
Same things go for animals.
Let me ask you this...
How can you honestly believe that a homosexual offender and a
homosexual pervert are two different things? First off, its based off
of the translation used in the bible, so both should be the same thing,
right? The bible doesn't lie, so it won't decieve you. Since we have
two verses totally disclaiming the act of homosexuality, then why do
people still do it? I can't believe it. And whats the different from a
homosexual then a homosexual 'pervert'? NONE! The act is perverted, the
bible clearly states it.
Ya'll need Jesus.
MMO migrant.
Why did you put my name in that quote? I didn't say any of that stuff under my name.
Why did you put my name in that quote? I didn't say any of that stuff under my name.
Hmm, the quote thing messed up then. Sorry if you didn't say that. I pushed the quote bottom and assumed it was right. My appologies.
MMO migrant.
I already did, read my answers to YOUR answers, i compared Islam with your way, see the difference and compare it.
But, you have failed to prove to me that your religion is better than mine, so therefore, Islam is better than your religion, because your religion can answer non of my questions.
I already did, read my answers to YOUR answers, i compared Islam with your way, see the difference and compare it.
But, you have failed to prove to me that your religion is better than mine, so therefore, Islam is better than your religion, because your religion can answer non of my questions.
No religion can answer those questions empirically- so that arguement is moot.
Lath
Why did you put my name in that quote? I didn't say any of that stuff under my name.
Hmm, the quote thing messed up then. Sorry if you didn't say that. I pushed the quote bottom and assumed it was right. My appologies.
So what you're saying is..
Being straight is perverted too!!
^^ Next!
Independant, Shinto, Lesbian, and Proud!
Why did you put my name in that quote? I didn't say any of that stuff under my name.
Hmm, the quote thing messed up then. Sorry if you didn't say that. I pushed the quote bottom and assumed it was right. My appologies.
So what you're saying is..
Being straight is perverted too!!
^^ Next!
you completely missed the point.
but all of you are right, I am wrong, all homosexuals should be damned to hell because that is the Christian thing to do.
I give up.
I hope some day we can all put aside our racisms and prejudices and just laugh at people
I already did, read my answers to YOUR answers, i compared Islam with your way, see the difference and compare it.
But, you have failed to prove to me that your religion is better than mine, so therefore, Islam is better than your religion, because your religion can answer non of my questions.
No religion can answer those questions empirically- so that arguement is moot.
Lath
For you my friend, as for those answers that my religion have answered were very satisfying, and i am happy.
I already did, read my answers to YOUR answers, i compared Islam with your way, see the difference and compare it.
But, you have failed to prove to me that your religion is better than mine, so therefore, Islam is better than your religion, because your religion can answer non of my questions.
No religion can answer those questions empirically- so that arguement is moot.
Lath
For you my friend, as for those answers that my religion have answered were very satisfying, and i am happy.
The answers you’re looking for cannot be found- using empirical data- for these questions we must rely on "prophets”, "Magic", and "Heavenly Places" which is absurd.
Statistically, it’s more probable that you’re an alien abductee than "god" exists. The Drake Equation -using empirical data- not magic- is the truth you’re looking for.
Lath
I already did, read my answers to YOUR answers, i compared Islam with your way, see the difference and compare it.
But, you have failed to prove to me that your religion is better than mine, so therefore, Islam is better than your religion, because your religion can answer non of my questions.
No religion can answer those questions empirically- so that arguement is moot.
Lath
For you my friend, as for those answers that my religion have answered were very satisfying, and i am happy.
The answers you’re looking for cannot be found- using empirical data- for these questions we must rely on "prophets”, "Magic", and "Heavenly Places" which is absurd.
Statistically, it’s more probable that you’re an alien abductee than "god" exists. The Drake Equation -using empirical data- not magic- is the truth you’re looking for.
Lath
who the hell am i arguing with here? someone who has absolutely no idea in what he's talking about...
I already did, read my answers to YOUR answers, i compared Islam with your way, see the difference and compare it.
But, you have failed to prove to me that your religion is better than mine, so therefore, Islam is better than your religion, because your religion can answer non of my questions.
No religion can answer those questions empirically- so that arguement is moot.
Lath
For you my friend, as for those answers that my religion have answered were very satisfying, and i am happy.
The answers you’re looking for cannot be found- using empirical data- for these questions we must rely on "prophets”, "Magic", and "Heavenly Places" which is absurd.
Statistically, it’s more probable that you’re an alien abductee than "god" exists. The Drake Equation -using empirical data- not magic- is the truth you’re looking for.
Lath
who the hell am i arguing with here? someone who has absolutely no idea in what he's talking about...
Who Wins?
Lath
Who Wins?
Lath
That's your level ?
I already did, read my answers to YOUR answers, i compared Islam with your way, see the difference and compare it.
But, you have failed to prove to me that your religion is better than mine, so therefore, Islam is better than your religion, because your religion can answer non of my questions.
You didn't prove anything. You can't point to a book of tales as your proof.
I went back and read what Reavo wrote to you. Him saying prove it is the end all of your discussion with him. You can't prove it. There is absolutely no tangible proof you have that your religion is the one everyone is to follow. And you making such an accusation shows the effects that your religion has on people.
You can't force feed belief to someone. So get over yourself and your religious convictions.
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Why did you put my name in that quote? I didn't say any of that stuff under my name.
Hmm, the quote thing messed up then. Sorry if you didn't say that. I pushed the quote bottom and assumed it was right. My appologies.
So what you're saying is..
Being straight is perverted too!!
^^ Next!
you completely missed the point.
but all of you are right, I am wrong, all homosexuals should be damned to hell because that is the Christian thing to do.
I give up.
Hmm, the quote thing messed up then. Sorry if you didn't say that. I pushed the quote bottom and assumed it was right. My appologies.
So what you're saying is..
Being straight is perverted too!!
^^ Next!
you completely missed the point.
but all of you are right, I am wrong, all homosexuals should be damned to hell because that is the Christian thing to do.
I give up.
But I'm not Christian. And I think it's the wrong thing to do.
So what you're saying is..
Being straight is perverted too!!
^^ Next!
you completely missed the point.
but all of you are right, I am wrong, all homosexuals should be damned to hell because that is the Christian thing to do.
I give up.
But I'm not Christian. And I think it's the wrong thing to do.
you completely missed the point.
but all of you are right, I am wrong, all homosexuals should be damned to hell because that is the Christian thing to do.
I give up.
But I'm not Christian. And I think it's the wrong thing to do.
But I'm not Christian. And I think it's the wrong thing to do.
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