I voted for EVE mostly because CCP are gods. However I hope that WoW wins everything and gets the top spot in the ratings. Then all these EVE haters who "got ganked because I can't level up my char in 2 weeks then grief noobs WHHHAAAAAAA!" can focus on hating WoW. I'm sure plenty of them tried WoW and found something too mentally challenging. Probably be a few "I couldn't finish the quest to get Gandalfs codpiece of honour solo, WHHHAAA!", this game blows because I have to raid ect,ect.
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Originally posted by Gameloading I honnestly don't consider these awards fair untill every mmorpg community (Lineage 2, WoW, EQ2 etc etc) is informed of these ratings.
If you ask the question: "Which is better, America or canada? vote now!" and you put a shitload of advertisements of the vote in america, and none in Canada, its not that hard to imagine who would win and have a greater show up. I don't blame mmorpg.com, so we have that clear.
They all know about the site. How do you think MMORPG.com gets these Free Trial Offers for such things as L2? How do you think they get EQIIs to hand out?
Seriously.
The companies know about the awards, but the community doesn't.
If people really think this contest is unfair, why care? Its just a people's choice award, people can do whatever the hell they want with it and the outcome will probably not be 100% legit.
It's readers choice whiners, if you don't like it, ignored it. Or better yet VOTE to support your game.
I do not blame CCp for ralllying their gamers to vote, as even if most people will not play a game based soley on ratings, people WILL trial a game based on ratings, and possibly like it enough to get a paid account.
Your community does not know about the awards? Post on your forums then!
Thus concludes - STHU About a mostly Worthless Award 101.
Sokahrthu
PS I only voted EVE for best PVP... cos well, there ARE better looking games out there and I don't PVE anymore . There go the fanboy flames heading in my direction :P
Originally posted by Gameloading I honnestly don't consider these awards fair untill every mmorpg community (Lineage 2, WoW, EQ2 etc etc) is informed of these ratings.
If you ask the question: "Which is better, America or canada? vote now!" and you put a shitload of advertisements of the vote in america, and none in Canada, its not that hard to imagine who would win and have a greater show up. I don't blame mmorpg.com, so we have that clear.
Originally posted by Gameloading I honnestly don't consider these awards fair untill every mmorpg community (Lineage 2, WoW, EQ2 etc etc) is informed of these ratings.
If you ask the question: "Which is better, America or canada? vote now!" and you put a shitload of advertisements of the vote in america, and none in Canada, its not that hard to imagine who would win and have a greater show up. I don't blame mmorpg.com, so we have that clear.
dude, you know Canada is on America, right? It was just an example *sigh*. replace Canada or America with any country your prefer.
Well I started a thread on the EQ2 site, we'll see if anyone feels like voting for it from there. Anyone care to start one on the WoW boards? I could start one on the DDO boards but I doubt I should bother.
But anything else they haven't a shot at. Its an ok game but has many design flaws and skewed design philosphies. Best over all game it should definitely never get. But the folks at CCP made a sticky on last years vote as well. There are enough hardcore eve players to make any voting skewed and very non scientific.
The difference is that EVE is a relatively small game that has as its target more "core" gamers, the type of folks who may bother to read a site like this. WoW is looking for a broad market, and not the folks who read this site, specifically, so to be honest I'm sure that CCP cares a lot more about how its game is viewed on a site like this than Blizzard does. If this site were representative of the gaming market that WoW is aimed at, WoW would have less than 50k subs and would have gotten ratings of 2 or 3 out of ten from most professional reviewers.
Meh...let the EVEbois have thier little voties, the awards mean about as much as the top 7 rated games on this site. Any MMO vet knows the ratings here are a spoof.
Originally posted by Minsc Well I started a thread on the EQ2 site, we'll see if anyone feels like voting for it from there. Anyone care to start one on the WoW boards? I could start one on the DDO boards but I doubt I should bother.
Indeed, since it probably won't receive a sticky or posted on the main website.
maybe it'll be the game you play -- hello kitty: island adventure?
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
Originally posted by Giana Meh...let the EVEbois have thier little voties, the awards mean about as much as the top 7 rated games on this site. Any MMO vet knows the ratings here are a spoof.
dont wanna get into a flame war but, if you dont care then dont post
If they did they wouldnt need to try win such awards by rallying eve players to come here to just vote. It sound more like opposite than being selfconfident about their game when they keep doing that again. It's like these players need some site to award their game and tell them "yes, your game is good enough to play".
If they did they wouldnt need to try win such awards by rallying eve players to come here to just vote. It sound more like opposite than being selfconfident about their game when they keep doing that again. It's like these players need some site to award their game and tell them "yes, your game is good enough to play".
You do realise the idea of this award is to award the game that got the most VOTES So far it seems everyone is whining against eve because its doing just that. If the other games had any real support and not just a lot of wind then maybee eve wouldnt win
I do agree with the EVEangelists that EVE and CCP really doesn't care if the game appeals to the majority.
However, the fact that CCP and EVE really want to win the reader's choice awards here shows me that they are obsessed with the image that the game appeals to the majority, and are willing to do whatever it takes to win that award.
For as much talk by them that they do things their way against the stuffy professionalism of the big players, CCP, more than any other game company, is obsessed, absolutely obsessed with winning awards, especially awards that convey some notion of general popularity. When they win awards here, we'll have to see it on ads here for another year.
And why? Because they know that "EVE is not for everyone" is not a good way to get a non-refundable $20 out of a sucker who thinks he'd have fun there. However, "Best game 2006, Reader's Choice Awards, MMORPG.com," does.
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Originally posted by Beatnik59 I do agree with the EVEangelists that EVE and CCP really doesn't care if the game appeals to the majority. However, the fact that CCP and EVE really want to win the reader's choice awards here shows me that they are obsessed with the image that the game appeals to the majority, and are willing to do whatever it takes to win that award. For as much talk by them that they do things their way against the stuffy professionalism of the big players, CCP, more than any other game company, is obsessed, absolutely obsessed with winning awards, especially awards that convey some notion of general popularity. When they win awards here, we'll have to see it on ads here for another year. And why? Because they know that "EVE is not for everyone" is not a good way to get a non-refundable $20 out of a sucker who thinks he'd have fun there. However, "Best game 2006, Reader's Choice Awards, MMORPG.com," does.
Once again someone has missed the point of The readers awards.
The point of it is the winner is the one who gets the most votes...So if you dont want eve to win again Vote and get your friends in the MMO world to vote too.
Originally posted by Beatnik59 I do agree with the EVEangelists that EVE and CCP really doesn't care if the game appeals to the majority. However, the fact that CCP and EVE really want to win the reader's choice awards here shows me that they are obsessed with the image that the game appeals to the majority, and are willing to do whatever it takes to win that award. For as much talk by them that they do things their way against the stuffy professionalism of the big players, CCP, more than any other game company, is obsessed, absolutely obsessed with winning awards, especially awards that convey some notion of general popularity. When they win awards here, we'll have to see it on ads here for another year. And why? Because they know that "EVE is not for everyone" is not a good way to get a non-refundable $20 out of a sucker who thinks he'd have fun there. However, "Best game 2006, Reader's Choice Awards, MMORPG.com," does.
Yeah, I've never heard of a company wanting their game to sound/be popular before. Those bastards!
Furthermore, all of this uproar about EVE only winning because they post something on their forums to tell their people to go vote is insane. That's like saying the Democrats shouldn't have won any of their elections because they got more of their people out to vote, and because we all know there are more Republicans...they were just too busy doing something else. (That was directed at whoever said the reason WoW didn't win was because they were all playing the game).
Originally posted by Gameloading I actually think this proves CCP must really want those awards, but to each his own
Lol once again you miss the point.
Of course they would luke to do well any publicity is good after all.
So tell me what game do you play and why didnt it win last year then ?
Actually I didn't miss the point. What I was trying to say is that it seems CCP wants those awards more then others. you don't see Blizzard put up a link to mmorpg.com awards on WoW official site. You don't see Ncsoft do that. You don't see SOE do it either.
What game I currently play? Nothing, really. I hop onto ArchLord and EQ2 every now and then, but thats about it.
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CS Lewis
They all know about the site. How do you think MMORPG.com gets these Free Trial Offers for such things as L2? How do you think they get EQIIs to hand out?
Seriously.
The companies know about the awards, but the community doesn't.
Its just a people's choice award, people can do whatever the hell they want with it and the outcome will probably not be 100% legit.
So what?
It's readers choice whiners, if you don't like it, ignored it. Or better yet VOTE to support your game.
I do not blame CCp for ralllying their gamers to vote, as even if most people will not play a game based soley on ratings, people WILL trial a game based on ratings, and possibly like it enough to get a paid account.
Your community does not know about the awards? Post on your forums then!
Thus concludes - STHU About a mostly Worthless Award 101.
Sokahrthu
PS I only voted EVE for best PVP... cos well, there ARE better looking games out there and I don't PVE anymore . There go the fanboy flames heading in my direction :P
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It was just an example *sigh*. replace Canada or America with any country your prefer.
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voting for it from there. Anyone care to start one on the WoW boards? I
could start one on the DDO boards but I doubt I should bother.
But anything else they haven't a shot at. Its an ok game but has many design flaws and skewed design philosphies. Best over all game it should definitely never get. But the folks at CCP made a sticky on last years vote as well. There are enough hardcore eve players to make any voting skewed and very non scientific.
Indeed, since it probably won't receive a sticky or posted on the main website.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
dont wanna get into a flame war but, if you dont care then dont post
My Brute - Dare to challenge?
If they did they wouldnt need to try win such awards by rallying eve players to come here to just vote. It sound more like opposite than being selfconfident about their game when they keep doing that again. It's like these players need some site to award their game and tell them "yes, your game is good enough to play".
You do realise the idea of this award is to award the game that got the most VOTES So far it seems everyone is whining against eve because its doing just that. If the other games had any real support and not just a lot of wind then maybee eve wouldnt win
So stop complaining and Vote.
Goodness talk about sour grapes !!!
If you don't want EVE to win then vote for something else and quit whining.
Support Bacteria, its the only culture some people have.
This just proves that EVE online is the only game that have a comunity that realy loves the game.
Go to other games forums and than go to EVE(oficial) forums and you will understand me.
Lol once again you miss the point.
Of course they would luke to do well any publicity is good after all.
So tell me what game do you play and why didnt it win last year then ?
I do agree with the EVEangelists that EVE and CCP really doesn't care if the game appeals to the majority.
However, the fact that CCP and EVE really want to win the reader's choice awards here shows me that they are obsessed with the image that the game appeals to the majority, and are willing to do whatever it takes to win that award.
For as much talk by them that they do things their way against the stuffy professionalism of the big players, CCP, more than any other game company, is obsessed, absolutely obsessed with winning awards, especially awards that convey some notion of general popularity. When they win awards here, we'll have to see it on ads here for another year.
And why? Because they know that "EVE is not for everyone" is not a good way to get a non-refundable $20 out of a sucker who thinks he'd have fun there. However, "Best game 2006, Reader's Choice Awards, MMORPG.com," does.
__________________________
"Its sad when people use religion to feel superior, its even worse to see people using a video game to do it."
--Arcken
"...when it comes to pimping EVE I have little restraints."
--Hellmar, CEO of CCP.
"It's like they took a gun, put it to their nugget sack and pulled the trigger over and over again, each time telling us how great it was that they were shooting themselves in the balls."
--Exar_Kun on SWG's NGE
Once again someone has missed the point of The readers awards.
The point of it is the winner is the one who gets the most votes...So if you dont want eve to win again Vote and get your friends in the MMO world to vote too.
Furthermore, all of this uproar about EVE only winning because they post something on their forums to tell their people to go vote is insane. That's like saying the Democrats shouldn't have won any of their elections because they got more of their people out to vote, and because we all know there are more Republicans...they were just too busy doing something else. (That was directed at whoever said the reason WoW didn't win was because they were all playing the game).
Lol once again you miss the point.
Of course they would luke to do well any publicity is good after all.
So tell me what game do you play and why didnt it win last year then ?
Actually I didn't miss the point. What I was trying to say is that it seems CCP wants those awards more then others. you don't see Blizzard put up a link to mmorpg.com awards on WoW official site. You don't see Ncsoft do that. You don't see SOE do it either.
What game I currently play? Nothing, really. I hop onto ArchLord and EQ2 every now and then, but thats about it.