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the future of gaming is console not PCs
bhug
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04.04.04
Consider Sony has sold 2.4 million ($40) network adapters this year that enable Playstation online gaming, or 750k players use Xbox Live ($50 per year) to play... by 2008 over 40 million gamers will be online with video game consoles.
While EQ has about 100k users (many with two and three accounts,) Ragnarok has more like 17 million worldwide ! The future in rpgs is not the 18 to 25 male users. It must broaden to include much wider demographics and play styles.
SOE must consider this or else it will be in EA's position where they invested $300 million in sims for 80k subscribers.
EQ "was" extraordinary back in 1998/1999, but today subscribers paying $10 to $15 a month want alot more value for their money. EQ2 with it's higher end computer system requirements may find unless it can offer users something more than a $50ish CD / dvd initial purchase and a $15 monthly subscription, it will not be able to compete with $5 per month console rates. Especially since those consoles will not cost anywhere near the $2,000 a modern PC does. Mayby if that initial CD/ dvd client can be factored to reduce the following monthly subscription it would make EQ2 that much more attractive compared to the consols and asian broadband cafes...
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Ummmm.... Games are created on the computer. So it's safe to assume that PC games are going no where.
What about all the games in the past that didn't even have online options? They did well. So.... What's your point? I don't understand. This topic is pointless.
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Pc's own consols, as much as I love the FF series, I will always place computers more than I play consols, there age is done, we are in the new age, and it has a keyboard, a mouse, headphones, and thousands of players per game. gg kthx bye.
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I've said it before:
Consoles are becoming more and more like computers in hardware and media capability (i.e. dvd player, cd/mp3 player, online). Soon you won't be able to tell the difference between consoles and pc's.
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I said most of what I needed to say in this thread.
But I'll go ahead and one more thing. I believe in the US, Europe, and Japan, online gaming is definitely going to be heading towards consoles. But for most of Asia, it's going to stay with PC's. The reason for this is that in most of Asia, people don't own their own PC's and usually play online games at Internet cafes. And since Internet cafes are also used for checking email, web browsing, and what not, they aren't going to go out and buy consoles for the Internet cafe, even though it could be feasible and be worth looking into.
I dont doubt consoles will continue to conquer the market,although they will have to work out the differences between the different types.The strength of PC users however is that they A-All tap into the same stream,and B-Simply offer more then 'just' the games,meaning the bigger part of PC users does a whole lot more then just play games.(just look at the every day programs,mp3players,audio and/or video editing,etc,etc.)Simply put,I dont think a console can ever replace the multi functionality offered by Personal Computer systems.A Console on the other hand is like a surgeon.May not have too many options,but the few it has it excels in.
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You've made a huge assumption that there isn't room in the market for consoles AND PCs.
I think rather than one becoming dominant consoles will become "PCs on the cheap". Stick in a cut down version of Windows and that's pretty much what we've got now.
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then it wont be a console but a cheap PC
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Listen ...
I didn't say that my comment would make any kind of sense or be well thought out.
Like most of what I say, it's complete shite and you should ignore it!!!
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It depends. In Europe, despite the lowered dollar, PC's still have high prices. Should those prices fall, the Consoles would face stiffer competition. Consoles while nice, have gained somewhat more resistance than PC's simply because of bad marketing, dodgy hype, and some really terrible games. Alot of consumers have been burnt, and those consumers are the one's that have labelled all Console's in the same light.
I have a PS1, PS2, Xbox, Gamecube, and 4 PC's. I prefer PC's simply because consoles are strictly restricted to a certain genre (Sims, & Shooters). Predijuice perhaps, but consoles tend to irritate me. And most my friend feel the same way. We have the consoles, but we Prefer to play games especialy online games (mmporgs) on PC's.l
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PC's are much more powerful than consoles and you'll soon notice it. If you try to run everquest 2 on a gamecube it would fry.
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And of course it wouldn't run genius you tried cramming a CD or DVD in a gamecube? lol and not only that you would not a port a game like that to the gamecube..seeing as it's SONY published/produced game lol.
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I didn't actually mean put the everquest 2 cd into the gamecube rofl. How dumb do you think i am?
I meant if they wanted to make EQII for the gamecube it just wouldn't work with the graphic capability the PC has.
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What??? Are you kidding? You can buy 2 brand new consoles for the price of the latest video card.
We had this debate last week sometime and the PC supporters lost...
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When the XBox was first released, it had comparable graphics capabilities than PCs at the time.
When XBox 2 is released, it will probably have comparable graphics capabilities with the PCs of the time.
Never the less, the XBox has some games with really nice graphics, especially if you get one of the games that run at 720p, or Dragons Lair 3D at 1080i.
What makes consoles so nice, is that you get 3 or 4 or more years out of your purchase, with only games to buy. With your PC, if you do not spend money to upgrade your hardware every 6 months to a year, then you can't play the latest games.
And as always, I would rather be seated on my couch with my wireless controller playing Need For Speed Underground on my 56" television any day, instead of sitting hunched over a controller at a desk playing on a 19" monitor.
Most of the MMORPG's are on the PC though. I doubt you'll find WoW,EQ2,City of Heroes, or any of those games on an Xbox.
The only reason im not really into consoles is because all they make is (IMO) gay sports games and racing games.
And as we all know, FPS games can only be played with a keyboard
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With Keyboards, internet surfing, and consoles being made out of PC hardware, I think it would be more correct to say consoles are PC's.
PC's have already won.
What is a console? A PC with a Gamepad instead of a keyboard. That's about it. Just because you don't do allot of word processing on them is just a consequence.
The line between PC's and consoles is pretty blurry now, it will only get worse going forward until you can no longer tell the difference, all will be merged with a large public display (the device that replaces TV ex large wall plasma displays) cable, movie rents, radio...ect. entertainment units will replace multiple devices, perhaps homes will have numerous entertainment devices on a network.
To say the future is PC or Console? Consoles have been PC's, they always will, the future will a homogenized of all "entertainment" devices.
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A Console Is:
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A Console is an outdated PC w/ no Hard Drive and very limited uses.
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Wow, you did not get anything right in this post:
The XBox has a 733 Celeron, the PS-2's processor is even slower. The Xbox DOES have a Hard Drive...
The XBox processor is not outdated, because there is not an XBox with a newer processor, so there is no way my XBox's processor is outdated compared to another Xbox's processor.
Consoles are WAY better at playing games than PC's are. I dare you to get a Celeron 733 PC and play Need For Speed Underground on it. It isn't going to happen.
The specs of the console is not important. Does it play games, and play them well? That is the question, and yes it does. It also does it for way less money than a PC. You can buy an Xbox and 10 or more games for the price of a decent PC.
Where consoles shine is that the games get better and better, even though the hardware has not changed. Meanwhile, you have to continually pay more and more money to keeop your PC up to date.
Don't get me wrong, I have a Pentium 4 3.0GHz PC, and it plays games very well, but I would much rather play an XBox game than a PC game, unless it is a game that really needs a mouse. Sure, the high end console market is still fairly new in comparison to the PC gaming market, but it is taking over.
There is a lot to say for ease of use...
When they start releasing the types of games I like to play on consoles, and not on PCs, then I'll agree with you.