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For all you "Still" mad vets...A gauntlet and a question..

hipiaphipiap Member UncommonPosts: 396

You people need to get over it for gods sake.

 

While I am mad about what Lucas Arts Made SOE do to SWG back in 2005 and 2004, moaning and whining over it and w/e else you're doing is a waste of time.

 

You kids and adults seem to forget that LEC controls what SoE develops for SW:G.

You blame and flame and scream at SOE....but one in a thousand complains that it was Lucas Arts/LEC fault for wanting to attract the Numbers that WoW draws.

 

I am just soooo tired of you people harping on what SOE did to your game.  One would think by reading the threads in the Veteran's Refuge that you people have no life away from the Computer.

 

 

So...there is the Gauntlet.

Heres the question:

 

When was the last time anyone here actually Logged INTO SW:G?

Pre-2006?

Expertise for Spy or Smuggler?

Chapter 6 AI Combat adjustment?

Chapter 7 The Return of Aurilla, Dathomir, Heroics and Collections?

Chapter 8 Space Collections and ISD Heroic?

Anyone here take advantage of the 14 or 21 Day Trials? Or the Buddy Program?

Anyone actually Log in to see how active Bria or Starsider or Chilastra or Gorath or Intrepid is currently?

Or are all of you so bitter that your too chicken to log in and find that you might actually enoy it?

 

 

I Am a 9 Time Elder on Intrepid.  I have the ORH.  I have Completed the fate of the galaxy quest for the Shard of Retribution.  I also have over 120 Badges.

 

I am sick of seeing you people not move on or grow a clue.

 

 

Play SW:G or play something else.  Quit complaining about something that happend Over 2 years and 2 months about at minimum.  And if some of you are still pi55ed over the Cu....well....Log in....the game is difficult and takes thought.

 

 

 

MMO History: 2528 days in SW:G
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  • 0over00over0 Member UncommonPosts: 488

    What do you care if they're still angry?

    You want them to shut up and disappear? All you're going to do is get them more riled up. Enjoy.

    Apply lemon juice and candle flame here to reveal secret message.

  • hipiaphipiap Member UncommonPosts: 396

    It's not just that they need to move on.

     

    There is a lot of cool CONTENT that they are missing out on because they can't take a minute and give it a try.

    99% of the People that played SW:G and left because of the CURB or NGE or whatever the reason was can afford to Blow 15 bucks to try this game now for 30 days or until they get bored with it.

    2 new Jedi Crystals, New specials and procs, SEA's are back in stackable ways...

     

    I will admit to being an Elder Ranger for Life....but after over 1100 days on my main server I am still having Fun with the game.

     

    And I still catch a forum ban for telling Sony what I think.

     

    Come back...its Fun again.

    MMO History: 2528 days in SW:G
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  • cabal001cabal001 Member Posts: 166

    Originally posted by hipiap


    You people need to get over it for gods sake.
     
    While I am mad about what Lucas Arts Made SOE do to SWG back in 2005 and 2004, moaning and whining over it and w/e else you're doing is a waste of time.
     
    You kids and adults seem to forget that LEC controls what SoE develops for SW:G.
    You blame and flame and scream at SOE....but one in a thousand complains that it was Lucas Arts/LEC fault for wanting to attract the Numbers that WoW draws.
     
    I am just soooo tired of you people harping on what SOE did to your game.  One would think by reading the threads in the Veteran's Refuge that you people have no life away from the Computer.
     
     
    So...there is the Gauntlet.
    Heres the question:
     
    When was the last time anyone here actually Logged INTO SW:G?
    Pre-2006?
    Expertise for Spy or Smuggler?
    Chapter 6 AI Combat adjustment?
    Chapter 7 The Return of Aurilla, Dathomir, Heroics and Collections?
    Chapter 8 Space Collections and ISD Heroic?
    Anyone here take advantage of the 14 or 21 Day Trials? Or the Buddy Program?
    Anyone actually Log in to see how active Bria or Starsider or Chilastra or Gorath or Intrepid is currently?
    Or are all of you so bitter that your too chicken to log in and find that you might actually enoy it?
     
     
    I Am a 9 Time Elder on Intrepid.  I have the ORH.  I have Completed the fate of the galaxy quest for the Shard of Retribution.  I also have over 120 Badges.
     
    I am sick of seeing you people not move on or grow a clue.
     
     
    Play SW:G or play something else.  Quit complaining about something that happend Over 2 years and 2 months about at minimum.  And if some of you are still pi55ed over the Cu....well....Log in....the game is difficult and takes thought.
     
     
     
    if the game is so good why aren't you playing it right now? you mean to tell me you logged out of a fun and rewarding game just to troll us "forum terrorists"? i cannot allow you to stay here when so many fat lewts

    go unlooted! go!

    arguing with a corporate fanboi is like teaching special education.
    even if you teach him something...at the end of the day he's still retarded.

  • hipiaphipiap Member UncommonPosts: 396

    Am in game right now waiting to finish buffing for an ImpStar Quest run.

    I earned 1million xp today with my Pilot grinding out Duty Missions in Dant space for Vortex squadron to get L8.

    Right now I have my second account dual logged  for afk grinding at the escaped wookiee camp in the High Ground of the Ryatt Trail....macro looting and leveling to 90.

    My Trader made 25m selling a Shard of Retailation today among other sundries.

     

    I needed a breath of air and to Eat dinner.

     

    MMO History: 2528 days in SW:G
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  • cabal001cabal001 Member Posts: 166
    Originally posted by hipiap


    Am in game right now waiting to finish buffing for an ImpStar Quest run.
    I earned 1million xp today with my Pilot grinding out Duty Missions in Dant space for Vortex squadron to get L8.
    Right now I have my second account dual logged  for afk grinding at the escaped wookiee camp in the High Ground of the Ryatt Trail....macro looting and leveling to 90.
    My Trader made 25m selling a Shard of Retailation today among other sundries.
     
    I needed a breath of air and to Eat dinner.
     

    you just admitted to violating the TOS. someone report him!

    arguing with a corporate fanboi is like teaching special education.
    even if you teach him something...at the end of the day he's still retarded.

  • I think the SOE fanbois need to get over the fact that we haven't gotten over it.

     

  • Daedalus732Daedalus732 Member Posts: 589

    I suppose I qualify as one of those angry forum vets, though I don't really say much on these forums because I just don't care to waste my breath anymore. SWG has failed on its own just fine.

    For the record, I have a station access pass, and about a month ago, I logged into SWG to see what's left. The crafting system is more or less intact, which is good. But the NGE is still in full force, and despite my efforts, I just can't get into it.

    I'm still upset about how the game changed, though I won't go into it because obviously those reasons have been repeatedly stated here.

    MMORPG.com created a separate forum for us former SWG players to remember the good times as we see them. Or perhaps, the better times, as no time was really that good no matter how much we would like to remember it.

    So why come to this forum just to stir up trouble? Why throw a rock at the hornet's nest?

    Most of us, like myself, have moved on. We just sometimes like to come here and talk about our former SWG days. I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

    After all, we certainly aren't the first posters on MMORPG.com to bitch about something we don't like.

  • cabal001cabal001 Member Posts: 166

    Originally posted by Daedalus732


    I suppose I qualify as one of those angry forum vets, though I don't really say much on these forums because I just don't care to waste my breath anymore. SWG has failed on its own just fine.
    For the record, I have a station access pass, and about a month ago, I logged into SWG to see what's left. The crafting system is more or less intact, which is good. But the NGE is still in full force, and despite my efforts, I just can't get into it.
    I'm still upset about how the game changed, though I won't go into it because obviously those reasons have been repeatedly stated here.
    MMORPG.com created a separate forum for us former SWG players to remember the good times as we see them. Or perhaps, the better times, as no time was really that good no matter how much we would like to remember it.
    So why come to this forum just to stir up trouble? Why throw a rock at the hornet's nest?
    Most of us, like myself, have moved on. We just sometimes like to come here and talk about our former SWG days. I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
    After all, we certainly aren't the first posters on MMORPG.com to bitch about something we don't like.
    QFE. +internets to you sir. it's so strange that the fanbois feel the need to come to the vet refuge to plug

    the nge. we are NOT the "target audience". move along,move along......

    arguing with a corporate fanboi is like teaching special education.
    even if you teach him something...at the end of the day he's still retarded.

  • Lunchbox76Lunchbox76 Member Posts: 294

    You just dont get it. I logged in about a month ago and played for an hour I couldnt stand the bugginess or the crappy UI. Not to mention the one thing (Skill tree style) that would cause me to sub is no longer there. Instead its a poorly done wow rip-off, and the combat is rediculous I have to hit three different buttons in order to lock on and auto attack what lame crap is that. At least in TR they did it right.

    Playing Fallen Earth.

  • SuvrocSuvroc Member Posts: 2,383

    I last logged in in Sept. on my main account as it was free, but I made a trial account in early December.

    First, the way I see it is both logos are on the box I bought so both companies are responsible.  I just care who gets the job done, and so far neither company has made the intiative to further the MMO industry.

    Second, I will say this. SWG is on the SOE station pass, and that makes SOE the obvious target for critisim

    Third, I personally don't know what others consider a "life", but I'm content with my own.

    As I've said I made a trial account in December. I forced myself to level a toon as far as I could, and that was to 16. At that time not a single person talked to me. I found that there was little to no social interactivity with anyone as everything I needed was given to me by the game(i.e. armor, cash, vehicle...etc). I found my toon to be uninteresting and uninspiring as virtual ever other person of the same class was a clone of each other - but that's not to say that there were many other people around anyway.

    You claim that the game is different, and I will grant you that it is different from the NGE's inception, but it is still based on the core NGE system of levels and loot, and that simply doesn't work for me. It's an antiquated system that is stuck in stagnation. As a matter of fact I'm starting to think that 90 levels are too much and that there should be only 1 level, seeing how that system works for Counterstrike and TFC so why not SWG?

    One of the things the NGE represents to me is the lowering of the bar in terms of what an MMO can be. In doing what SOE/LA has done they've both set this industry back several years IMO, and that I believe is what all of us should be concerned about.

  • Prime8Prime8 Member CommonPosts: 108

    "Right now I have my second account dual logged  for afk grinding at the escaped wookiee camp in the High Ground of the Ryatt Trail....macro looting and leveling to 90."

    I think that says it all , target audience me thinks       :P

  • cabal001cabal001 Member Posts: 166

    Originally posted by salvaje


    I think the SOE fanbois need to get over the fact that we haven't gotten over it.
     
    i don't get the whole  "get over it"  mentality. it isn't that we are here ranting to get our game back..we accepted

    the fact that it is gone a long time ago. honestly most of us wouldn't return to any version of the game hosted by soe. i for one feel it is my duty to let others know about the terrible history of the game/companies involved

    in the worst gaming disaster since E.T. for the atari 2600. if i can keep some innocent fellow gamer from wasting his money dealing with a disreputable company hiding behind a beloved I.P. ....

    arguing with a corporate fanboi is like teaching special education.
    even if you teach him something...at the end of the day he's still retarded.

  • RastonRaston Member Posts: 438

    I know I tried one of the trial accounts...  I played it for a couple hours and that was it.  I hated the space apsect (which you couldn't avoid) and the combat was not in my style.

    As for angry?  No, I'm not angry.  I just want to make sure no other developer EVER considers such a 'revamp' of a mature and established game ever again.

  • cabal001cabal001 Member Posts: 166
    Originally posted by Prime8


    "Right now I have my second account dual logged  for afk grinding at the escaped wookiee camp in the High Ground of the Ryatt Trail....macro looting and leveling to 90."
    I think that says it all , target audience me thinks       :P

    yes but can he turn on teh sword?

    arguing with a corporate fanboi is like teaching special education.
    even if you teach him something...at the end of the day he's still retarded.

  • hipiaphipiap Member UncommonPosts: 396

    Ok...lets see....

    The UI Sucked when I started playing the game in 2003....so sorry about that one.

    If I am at the keyboard and answering /tells I am not truely afk...so :P

    Of course the NGE is in full force.  What did you expect? Ralph to be rehired and a Roll back to September 2003? Cmon.

     

    I disagree with the title Fanboi.   I am a Star Wars Fan.  I own star wars memoribilia from PRE-Ep 1,2 &3.

    I dislike fanbois, but they are entitled to their opinions.

     

    get in game daymit.

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  • SuvrocSuvroc Member Posts: 2,383

    Originally posted by hipiap


    Ok...lets see....
    The UI Sucked when I started playing the game in 2003....so sorry about that one.

    How did it suck?

    Personally I found it to be quite intuitive and and ergonimical.

  • cabal001cabal001 Member Posts: 166
    Originally posted by Suvroc


     
    Originally posted by hipiap


    Ok...lets see....
    The UI Sucked when I started playing the game in 2003....so sorry about that one.

     

    How did it suck?

    Personally I found it to be quite intuitive and and ergonimical.

    it involved reading.........too much reading.

    arguing with a corporate fanboi is like teaching special education.
    even if you teach him something...at the end of the day he's still retarded.

  • dalevi1dalevi1 Member Posts: 829
    Originally posted by hipiap


    You people need to get over it for gods sake.
    Why are you here and not playing it then? Answering Obraik's call on the official forums?
    While I am mad about what Lucas Arts Made SOE do to SWG back in 2005 and 2004, moaning and whining over it and w/e else you're doing is a waste of time.
    Playing it is even a bigger waste of time. Coming here, while we play other games, to connect with eachother is our perogative, it's not like SOE gave us a Veteran's Refuge.
    You kids and adults seem to forget that LEC controls what SoE develops for SW:G.
    I don't care who did it.
    You blame and flame and scream at SOE....but one in a thousand complains that it was Lucas Arts/LEC fault for wanting to attract the Numbers that WoW draws.
    See last entry. 
    I am just soooo tired of you people harping on what SOE did to your game.  One would think by reading the threads in the Veteran's Refuge that you people have no life away from the Computer.
    It's your game too, you are playing it, right? You are posting here and playing the game, so it's not hard to state that you spend too much time in front of the computer, and you have no life as well.
    So...there is the Gauntlet.
    More like, Here's your feather, I dare you to pick it up.
    Heres the question:
    Oh Goodie...
    When was the last time anyone here actually Logged INTO SW:G?
    December 22.
    Pre-2006?
    2007
    Expertise for Spy or Smuggler?
    Spy's are the most underpowered class in the game, Smugglers are second. "Smuggling" means running around like old BH missions with nothing to kill at the end. No smuggling in space. Another example of SWG half assing a 3 year old promise
    Chapter 6 AI Combat adjustment?
    I solo'd the Geonosian Lab after the AI adjustment, didn't seem like a very large adjustment.


    Chapter 7 The Return of Aurilla, Dathomir, Heroics and Collections?
    Collections? Yippie. Aurilla? That wasn't Aurilla. That was a new place altogether. Aurilla as the village was something, this has nothing to do with the old village, and have even less to do than the village once had, which was a constant stream of change.
    Chapter 8 Space Collections and ISD Heroic?
    Collections, Yippie. The new ships, cool stuff, but came 2.5 years to late for me to think it worth a resub.
    Anyone here take advantage of the 14 or 21 Day Trials? Or the Buddy Program?
    Several people I know have taken the trials. They don't think it is worth it to try again since most used the trial pre-7.
    Anyone actually Log in to see how active Bria or Starsider or Chilastra or Gorath or Intrepid is currently?
    Who here wants to grind the 0-40 missions again? Who here wants to run through Kash (yet, again?). who here wants to run the slow travels of Mustafar again? New server, equals new grind. Many of us had enough characters on a single server to regrind without the need to do it over again just to have "community". That is something you can build in another game without repeating something that has already been done numerous times. The thought of 0-90 in SWG gives me a headache. If you want to do it again, "spend too much time in front of the computer, and you have no life"
    Or are all of you so bitter that your too chicken to log in and find that you might actually enoy it?
    I logged in. I enjoyed it for a few weeks. Then everything changed. Then I enjoyed it for a few more weeks, and then everything changed. Riddle me this, for a game removing buffs to make things less complicated, how many buffs must you have now to compete? How many credits is the GLC going for on your server? I forgot to say, 0-90 is only the beginning of your new grind, because now you have Restuss, GCW, then Credits to grind out. Perhaps then, and only then, can you make a significant dent in PvP. 
    I Am a 9 Time Elder on Intrepid.  I have the ORH.  I have Completed the fate of the galaxy quest for the Shard of Retribution.  I also have over 120 Badges.
    Define "elder." If I had 9 toons on a server, before the NGE, then it would have taken me 9 days to make 9 "elders".
    I am sick of seeing you people not move on or grow a clue.
    And I am sick of people like you trying to critisize us for having a community, and an outlet, that doesn't mesh with your version of utopia. I suggest you go back there, because if this is your best shot, your "gauntlet," you are vastly out classed here, and I am being nice. If you don't like what we say it "veteran's refuge" then I suggest you massage your game on the official forums.
    Play SW:G or play something else.  Quit complaining about something that happend Over 2 years and 2 months about at minimum.  And if some of you are still pi55ed over the Cu....well....Log in....the game is difficult and takes thought.
    It takes no more thought than it ever did, in fact, it takes less. All you really need now is the time to grind, the buffs that match, and the overwhelming number of credits needed for gear. Playing is not hard at all, there is no risk in this game any longer, and unfortunately no reward either, unless an endless grind is your idea of reward. All I can say to you is, go home.

    Played (more than a month): SWG, Second Life, Tabula Rasa, Lineage 2, Everquest 2, EvE, MxO, Ryzom.

    Tried: WoW, Shadowbane, Anarchy Online, Everquest, WWII Online, Planetside

    Beta: Lotro, Tabula Rasa, WAR.

  • ajax7ajax7 Member Posts: 363

     

    Originally posted by cabal001

    Originally posted by Suvroc


     
    Originally posted by hipiap


    Ok...lets see....
    The UI Sucked when I started playing the game in 2003....so sorry about that one.

     

    How did it suck?

    Personally I found it to be quite intuitive and and ergonimical.

    it involved reading.........too much reading.

     

    Your responces are childish we don't want you back, :P  In fact more people are coming back including new people.

    Ajax

  • cabal001cabal001 Member Posts: 166
    Originally posted by ajax7


     
    Originally posted by cabal001

    Originally posted by Suvroc


     
    Originally posted by hipiap


    Ok...lets see....
    The UI Sucked when I started playing the game in 2003....so sorry about that one.

     

    How did it suck?

    Personally I found it to be quite intuitive and and ergonimical.

    it involved reading.........too much reading.

     

    Your responces are childish we don't want you back, :P  I fact more people are coming back including new people.

    target audience thank you and goodnight!

    arguing with a corporate fanboi is like teaching special education.
    even if you teach him something...at the end of the day he's still retarded.

  • AntariousAntarious Member UncommonPosts: 2,846

    Originally posted by hipiap


    Anyone actually Log in to see how active Starsider is currently?

    The fact you could include that line... in a post about people you think need to get a clue.

    Well to be honest I couldn't take anything else you wrote seriously... not to mention you owe me the $$'s for a new monitor... after I just spit this drink out all over it.

    Post like this are just as stupid as posts from people that are "still mad".

    Who friggin cares.. the only one who lost out is SOE on the subscribers they lost.

    But anyway...

    You said something about Starsider having an active population?  Mind to share where this is.. Played there since launch and come back quite often to look...

    I've yet to find this "active" server you speak of...  I mean ya people still buy stuff off my vendor.. but the server hasn't been what I'd call active in a long time.

    So please do share.. where all these hundreds of people are... so I can take a screen shot.

    Cuz the ones I have from this last week/weekend sure as hell dont' back this theory of yours..

     

  • ajax7ajax7 Member Posts: 363
    Originally posted by cabal001

    Originally posted by ajax7


     
    Originally posted by cabal001

    Originally posted by Suvroc


     
    Originally posted by hipiap


    Ok...lets see....
    The UI Sucked when I started playing the game in 2003....so sorry about that one.

     

    How did it suck?

    Personally I found it to be quite intuitive and and ergonimical.

    it involved reading.........too much reading.

     

    Your responces are childish we don't want you back, :P  I fact more people are coming back including new people.

    target audience thank you and goodnight!

    I played since release I came back in chpt 5, the game is better now than any of the slash and hack games I'm enjoying the game again! So grow up, you comments are flame bait good night to you please have bad dreams.

    Ajax

  • dalevi1dalevi1 Member Posts: 829
    Originally posted by cabal001

    Originally posted by hipiap


    Am in game right now waiting to finish buffing for an ImpStar Quest run.
    I earned 1million xp today with my Pilot grinding out Duty Missions in Dant space for Vortex squadron to get L8.
    Right now I have my second account dual logged  for afk grinding at the escaped wookiee camp in the High Ground of the Ryatt Trail....macro looting and leveling to 90.
    My Trader made 25m selling a Shard of Retailation today among other sundries.
     
    I needed a breath of air and to Eat dinner.
     

    you just admitted to violating the TOS. someone report him!

    Right, I was trying not to bring the current level of player into the conversation, but yeah. The grinding is so bad now that cheating is at an all time high.

    Played (more than a month): SWG, Second Life, Tabula Rasa, Lineage 2, Everquest 2, EvE, MxO, Ryzom.

    Tried: WoW, Shadowbane, Anarchy Online, Everquest, WWII Online, Planetside

    Beta: Lotro, Tabula Rasa, WAR.

  • Originally posted by salvaje


    I think the SOE fanbois need to get over the fact that we haven't gotten over it.
     
     

    It was LA who forced the hand of SOE. You do have to remember that and get Lucasartssucks.com too and inform people of how they can completely overhaul a system and force an untested system into play, and then abandon SOE when in an hour of need.

    People really need to know that SOE was perfectly happy with the CU, and did not want to push the NGE, but was simply there for in game testing for possible release until LA saw it and wanted that to be the game which then fucked it for everyone.

  • dalevi1dalevi1 Member Posts: 829
    Originally posted by namelessbob


     
    Originally posted by salvaje


    I think the SOE fanbois need to get over the fact that we haven't gotten over it.
     
     

     

    It was LA who forced the hand of SOE. You do have to remember that and get Lucasartssucks.com too and inform people of how they can completely overhaul a system and force an untested system into play, and then abandon SOE when in an hour of need.

    People really need to know that SOE was perfectly happy with the CU, and did not want to push the NGE, but was simply there for in game testing for possible release until LA saw it and wanted that to be the game which then fucked it for everyone.

    LA? SOE? Uhm, who cares...

    Played (more than a month): SWG, Second Life, Tabula Rasa, Lineage 2, Everquest 2, EvE, MxO, Ryzom.

    Tried: WoW, Shadowbane, Anarchy Online, Everquest, WWII Online, Planetside

    Beta: Lotro, Tabula Rasa, WAR.

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