Im from the Uk so the time stamps, i think are my time, so add on 5 hours for eastern time i guess. These screenies are not the most populated (i could have shown guild wars, events etc) but they are general view of what it is like most evenings.
In reply to Archeus (not sure if these images are working, let me know if not)
The images didn't work for me (I know they're for Archeus, but I thought I'd check'em out). Saay, thanks for explaining that really you just don't want to lose what is a fun experience for you. I think a lot of people here can identify with that.
I also apperciate when anyone can honestly tell us, and other consumers, what they like about the current game without denying the game's history, or it's current bugs and issues.
That's a much more helpful approach I think, for the game and for dialogue in general, than what others seem compelled to do at times (e.g. name-calling, or accusations that people's concerns have no validity).
So thanks for your efforts to share a different perspective without the corporate spin and without the use of tactics you often seen on the schoolyard in elementary schools.
While I am mad about what Lucas Arts Made SOE do to SWG back in 2005 and 2004, moaning and whining over it and w/e else you're doing is a waste of time.
You kids and adults seem to forget that LEC controls what SoE develops for SW:G. You blame and flame and scream at SOE....but one in a thousand complains that it was Lucas Arts/LEC fault for wanting to attract the Numbers that WoW draws.
I am just soooo tired of you people harping on what SOE did to your game. One would think by reading the threads in the Veteran's Refuge that you people have no life away from the Computer.
So...there is the Gauntlet. Heres the question:
When was the last time anyone here actually Logged INTO SW:G? Pre-2006? Expertise for Spy or Smuggler? Chapter 6 AI Combat adjustment? Chapter 7 The Return of Aurilla, Dathomir, Heroics and Collections? Chapter 8 Space Collections and ISD Heroic? Anyone here take advantage of the 14 or 21 Day Trials? Or the Buddy Program? Anyone actually Log in to see how active Bria or Starsider or Chilastra or Gorath or Intrepid is currently? Or are all of you so bitter that your too chicken to log in and find that you might actually enoy it?
I Am a 9 Time Elder on Intrepid. I have the ORH. I have Completed the fate of the galaxy quest for the Shard of Retribution. I also have over 120 Badges.
I am sick of seeing you people not move on or grow a clue.
Play SW:G or play something else. Quit complaining about something that happend Over 2 years and 2 months about at minimum. And if some of you are still pi55ed over the Cu....well....Log in....the game is difficult and takes thought.
I'll call you on your bullshi*. Last time I logged in was a little under a month ago, because yet again SOE sends out their please please come back and see all that we have done! You will be so impressed! free trials.
Logged in and oh boy! ANOTHER vet reward! roflmao. Let's see. The graphical "enhancements" that they made a year or so ago, still suck. The NGE still sucks, the new classes: well, so many layers upon layers of pure sucktitude that you would be hard pressed to find even one iota of this much suck in any 10 games combined.
Lucas Arts most assuredly said to SOE, hey! things are looking rather sparse over there. Bring us some ideas on how to fix it. The simple facts are, at least as they have been reported over the years, it was SOE that instituted the hologrind, dealing the first of many blows to the community. It was the SOE devs that stated "we watched every day as people got so close to becoming jedi but just missed it". It was Smedley that stated "No one wants to be Uncle Owen or Aunt Beru, people want to be Darth Vader and Luke Skywalker." Of course this was in direct opposition to what the metrics that SOE used to release every couple of months that had CH's and Traders far higher in population than jedi.
Even though he has come on this site several times in an attempt to rewrite history it was Jeff Freeman that said on his own blog How can we do this? How can we not do this? This is too cool not to do! In regards to the NGE and he was an SOE employee.
While Lucas Arts does share in the blame it was SOE that said that the vets were a vocal minority. It was SOE that stated that they did not care what the vets thought, that they (SOE) were going after a new target market. It was SOE that stated that all the problems in SWG would be addressed with the Combat Revamp, which, was summarily discarded after over a year of development with the CU being foisted upon us. It was SOE that performed a complete and total bait and switch promising and teasing with advances and forthcoming improvements to skill sets that were out and outright removed from the game within a short 6 weeks time period.
There might be periods of activity on some servers. However, it is only a fool and a liar that will say that it is anything but a mere shadow of what it had been on the slowest of days, on the least populated of servers, pre-9.
In closing, perhaps you should take your own advice? A whine, regardless of a pro or an anti stance is still nothing more than a whine.
While I am mad about what Lucas Arts Made SOE do to SWG back in 2005 and 2004, moaning and whining over it and w/e else you're doing is a waste of time.
You kids and adults seem to forget that LEC controls what SoE develops for SW:G. You blame and flame and scream at SOE....but one in a thousand complains that it was Lucas Arts/LEC fault for wanting to attract the Numbers that WoW draws.
I am just soooo tired of you people harping on what SOE did to your game. One would think by reading the threads in the Veteran's Refuge that you people have no life away from the Computer.
So...there is the Gauntlet. Heres the question:
When was the last time anyone here actually Logged INTO SW:G? Pre-2006? Expertise for Spy or Smuggler? Chapter 6 AI Combat adjustment? Chapter 7 The Return of Aurilla, Dathomir, Heroics and Collections? Chapter 8 Space Collections and ISD Heroic? Anyone here take advantage of the 14 or 21 Day Trials? Or the Buddy Program? Anyone actually Log in to see how active Bria or Starsider or Chilastra or Gorath or Intrepid is currently? Or are all of you so bitter that your too chicken to log in and find that you might actually enoy it?
I Am a 9 Time Elder on Intrepid. I have the ORH. I have Completed the fate of the galaxy quest for the Shard of Retribution. I also have over 120 Badges.
I am sick of seeing you people not move on or grow a clue.
Play SW:G or play something else. Quit complaining about something that happend Over 2 years and 2 months about at minimum. And if some of you are still pi55ed over the Cu....well....Log in....the game is difficult and takes thought.
I'll call you on your bullshi*. Last time I logged in was a little under a month ago, because yet again SOE sends out their please please come back and see all that we have done! You will be so impressed! free trials.
Logged in and oh boy! ANOTHER vet reward! roflmao. Let's see. The graphical "enhancements" that they made a year or so ago, still suck. The NGE still sucks, the new classes: well, so many layers upon layers of pure sucktitude that you would be hard pressed to find even one iota of this much suck in any 10 games combined.
Lucas Arts most assuredly said to SOE, hey! things are looking rather sparse over there. Bring us some ideas on how to fix it. The simple facts are, at least as they have been reported over the years, it was SOE that instituted the hologrind, dealing the first of many blows to the community. It was the SOE devs that stated "we watched every day as people got so close to becoming jedi but just missed it". It was Smedley that stated "No one wants to be Uncle Owen or Aunt Beru, people want to be Darth Vader and Luke Skywalker." Of course this was in direct opposition to what the metrics that SOE used to release every couple of months that had CH's and Traders far higher in population than jedi.
Even though he has come on this site several times in an attempt to rewrite history it was Jeff Freeman that said on his own blog How can we do this? How can we not do this? This is too cool not to do! In regards to the NGE and he was an SOE employee.
While Lucas Arts does share in the blame it was SOE that said that the vets were a vocal minority. It was SOE that stated that they did not care what the vets thought, that they (SOE) were going after a new target market. It was SOE that stated that all the problems in SWG would be addressed with the Combat Revamp, which, was summarily discarded after over a year of development with the CU being foisted upon us. It was SOE that performed a complete and total bait and switch promising and teasing with advances and forthcoming improvements to skill sets that were out and outright removed from the game within a short 6 weeks time period.
There might be periods of activity on some servers. However, it is only a fool and a liar that will say that it is anything but a mere shadow of what it had been on the slowest of days, on the least populated of servers, pre-9.
In closing, perhaps you should take your own advice? A whine, regardless of a pro or an anti stance is still nothing more than a whine.
This is indeed a whine, and when has anybody said there are the same amount of players now as Pre-CU? (the reasons for that are somewhat arguable).
While I am mad about what Lucas Arts Made SOE do to SWG back in 2005 and 2004, moaning and whining over it and w/e else you're doing is a waste of time.
You kids and adults seem to forget that LEC controls what SoE develops for SW:G. You blame and flame and scream at SOE....but one in a thousand complains that it was Lucas Arts/LEC fault for wanting to attract the Numbers that WoW draws.
I am just soooo tired of you people harping on what SOE did to your game. One would think by reading the threads in the Veteran's Refuge that you people have no life away from the Computer.
So...there is the Gauntlet. Heres the question:
When was the last time anyone here actually Logged INTO SW:G? Pre-2006? Expertise for Spy or Smuggler? Chapter 6 AI Combat adjustment? Chapter 7 The Return of Aurilla, Dathomir, Heroics and Collections? Chapter 8 Space Collections and ISD Heroic? Anyone here take advantage of the 14 or 21 Day Trials? Or the Buddy Program? Anyone actually Log in to see how active Bria or Starsider or Chilastra or Gorath or Intrepid is currently? Or are all of you so bitter that your too chicken to log in and find that you might actually enoy it?
I Am a 9 Time Elder on Intrepid. I have the ORH. I have Completed the fate of the galaxy quest for the Shard of Retribution. I also have over 120 Badges.
I am sick of seeing you people not move on or grow a clue.
Play SW:G or play something else. Quit complaining about something that happend Over 2 years and 2 months about at minimum. And if some of you are still pi55ed over the Cu....well....Log in....the game is difficult and takes thought.
I'll call you on your bullshi*. Last time I logged in was a little under a month ago, because yet again SOE sends out their please please come back and see all that we have done! You will be so impressed! free trials.
Logged in and oh boy! ANOTHER vet reward! roflmao. Let's see. The graphical "enhancements" that they made a year or so ago, still suck. The NGE still sucks, the new classes: well, so many layers upon layers of pure sucktitude that you would be hard pressed to find even one iota of this much suck in any 10 games combined.
Lucas Arts most assuredly said to SOE, hey! things are looking rather sparse over there. Bring us some ideas on how to fix it. The simple facts are, at least as they have been reported over the years, it was SOE that instituted the hologrind, dealing the first of many blows to the community. It was the SOE devs that stated "we watched every day as people got so close to becoming jedi but just missed it". It was Smedley that stated "No one wants to be Uncle Owen or Aunt Beru, people want to be Darth Vader and Luke Skywalker." Of course this was in direct opposition to what the metrics that SOE used to release every couple of months that had CH's and Traders far higher in population than jedi.
Even though he has come on this site several times in an attempt to rewrite history it was Jeff Freeman that said on his own blog How can we do this? How can we not do this? This is too cool not to do! In regards to the NGE and he was an SOE employee.
While Lucas Arts does share in the blame it was SOE that said that the vets were a vocal minority. It was SOE that stated that they did not care what the vets thought, that they (SOE) were going after a new target market. It was SOE that stated that all the problems in SWG would be addressed with the Combat Revamp, which, was summarily discarded after over a year of development with the CU being foisted upon us. It was SOE that performed a complete and total bait and switch promising and teasing with advances and forthcoming improvements to skill sets that were out and outright removed from the game within a short 6 weeks time period.
There might be periods of activity on some servers. However, it is only a fool and a liar that will say that it is anything but a mere shadow of what it had been on the slowest of days, on the least populated of servers, pre-9.
In closing, perhaps you should take your own advice? A whine, regardless of a pro or an anti stance is still nothing more than a whine.
This is indeed a whine, and when has anybody said there are the same amount of players now as Pre-CU? (the reasons for that are somewhat arguable).
I never said that we had the same population as pre-cu or pre-nge or even pre-publish 9.
And yes, perhaps its a bit of a rant. But I see a lot of people in the forums that also post here that continually complain about this or that; and they still pay to play.
So for those that quit......I am not suggesting that you forgive and forget.
I played from beta to a few months ago. For me I quit because the engine is very weak in its response. The artwork has not progressed. I am fed up with the constant nerfs. The lore of star wars is soooo messed up in this game. I find it has no integrity as a hard core fan of star wars. It took 4 years of constant begging to get the star destroyer in game that one can run a round on. Same for the boardable space station. I just find that the game has not progressed and SOE and Lucas Arts have blown it off. I am fed up with SWG copying World of Warcraft. I am fed up with PvP lag. And most of all I am fed up with how SOE treats their SWG community. It is wrong. So in turn I take my money elsewhere.
Now on the side of things I do like about the game are story teller and beast master. I do like the collection system as it meets a request to use the immense size of the planets. And I love JTLS. But as you notice the biggest hits for the game with new players are pre cu gameplay that gets reintroduced. I do think this dev team is better. But I am a little disgusted with the nerfs and the lack of staff for the fans. And the fact that smedley and lucas arts wont address it in detail concerning the NGE. A classic server would solve this issue. The game has been so dumbed down that I can't enjoy it anymore. Cities are empty. Player cities are empty. Old quests server no purpose. The legacy quest leaves a new player clueless where to go afterwards. The depth of the game is terrible. They need more staff. They need to fix it. Tie it all together.
While I am mad about what Lucas Arts Made SOE do to SWG back in 2005 and 2004, moaning and whining over it and w/e else you're doing is a waste of time.
You kids and adults seem to forget that LEC controls what SoE develops for SW:G. You blame and flame and scream at SOE....but one in a thousand complains that it was Lucas Arts/LEC fault for wanting to attract the Numbers that WoW draws.
I am just soooo tired of you people harping on what SOE did to your game. One would think by reading the threads in the Veteran's Refuge that you people have no life away from the Computer.
So...there is the Gauntlet. Heres the question:
When was the last time anyone here actually Logged INTO SW:G? Pre-2006? Expertise for Spy or Smuggler? Chapter 6 AI Combat adjustment? Chapter 7 The Return of Aurilla, Dathomir, Heroics and Collections? Chapter 8 Space Collections and ISD Heroic? Anyone here take advantage of the 14 or 21 Day Trials? Or the Buddy Program? Anyone actually Log in to see how active Bria or Starsider or Chilastra or Gorath or Intrepid is currently? Or are all of you so bitter that your too chicken to log in and find that you might actually enoy it?
I Am a 9 Time Elder on Intrepid. I have the ORH. I have Completed the fate of the galaxy quest for the Shard of Retribution. I also have over 120 Badges.
I am sick of seeing you people not move on or grow a clue.
Play SW:G or play something else. Quit complaining about something that happend Over 2 years and 2 months about at minimum. And if some of you are still pi55ed over the Cu....well....Log in....the game is difficult and takes thought.
if the game is so good why aren't you playing it right now? you mean to tell me you logged out of a fun and rewarding game just to troll us "forum terrorists"? i cannot allow you to stay here when so many fat lewts
go unlooted! go!
Owned.
"Do not fret! Your captain is about to enter Valhalla!" - General Beatrix of Alexandria
"The acquisition of knowledge is of use to the intellect, for nothing can be loved or hated without first being known." - Leo da Vinci
Ok...lets see.... Indeed.. okay.. lets see... The UI Sucked when I started playing the game in 2003....so sorry about that one. I actually liked it. It was high-tech looking with its glowy blue and easy.... i hate the cartoonish version we have now... it isnt "star warsy" enough. If I am at the keyboard and answering /tells I am not truely afk...so :P Lol... and heres where i really point something out. You must be the target audience... you have to be. SoE must love you due to the fact they can suck money easily from you... you dont complain... becuase your afk grinding and doing other things than playing the game, therefore you don't get enough time to see the game for what it is.. Sad part is you don't even realize it. Of course the NGE is in full force. What did you expect? Ralph to be rehired and a Roll back to September 2003? Cmon. No it isn't. Dude... they have a skeleton crew... the only reason that game isn't shut down is 1. LA still wont pull the license. 2. The station pass keeps it on life support. Seriously man.... think about it.. -.-
I disagree with the title Fanboi. I am a Star Wars Fan. I own star wars memoribilia from PRE-Ep 1,2 &3. I dislike fanbois, but they are entitled to their opinions. Okay true on the opinion. But to counter that so are we... and besides.. no... you are a fanboi. Sorry. get in game daymit. And here we have it... why do you want people in game? If the game is SOOOOOO great and full of peeps as a few of you say.... why are you trying so hard to get people to play it? Hehe why do you even need to afk grind IF you had people to play with... very strange indeed.
Just my two cents. Have fun with that!
"Do not fret! Your captain is about to enter Valhalla!" - General Beatrix of Alexandria
"The acquisition of knowledge is of use to the intellect, for nothing can be loved or hated without first being known." - Leo da Vinci
Cool content? KOTOR has better version of Exar Kun and Bioware doesn't charge $15/month to play it...
Busy servers? Screenshots. I challege YOU to provide us screenshots of these busy servers...
Played the game less than 2 months ago. Guess what? You can STILL shoot through walls, NPC's on "quests" STILL spawn in rocks, the severs are STILL dead (worse than ever), and the game STILL isn't worth a crap.
So if you enjoy inflated craptastic economies, playing an online game with noboy online, if bugs with no fixes is your thing, if overall poor gameplay mechanics are up your alley, SWG IS THE GAME FOR YOU!
The OP is clearly the target audience who couldn't compete in Pre-CU. He required the dumbing-down of the game to enjoy it. Congrats. For every 1 of you there are 1000 of us. You are EXACTLY the sort of player SOE/LA were hoping to attract... One who will gladly pay for a garbage game, monthly.
Haha, enjoy your time "in-game AFK grinding... LMAO
haha another of this "i ll beg you come into game to populate the servers"
2 months later and still no fun in game right ? lol
A bad news for you.... this will no change ....not before PRE CU is installed on the servers again....
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE-------------------------------------------------- $OE - eternal enemy of online gaming -We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
haha another of this "i ll beg you come into game to populate the servers" 2 months later and still no fun in game right ? lol A bad news for you.... this will no change ....not before PRE CU is installed on the servers again....
Exactly! The vets aren't coming back. Get over it.
While I am mad about what Lucas Arts Made SOE do to SWG back in 2005 and 2004, moaning and whining over it and w/e else you're doing is a waste of time.
You kids and adults seem to forget that LEC controls what SoE develops for SW:G. You blame and flame and scream at SOE....but one in a thousand complains that it was Lucas Arts/LEC fault for wanting to attract the Numbers that WoW draws.
I am just soooo tired of you people harping on what SOE did to your game. One would think by reading the threads in the Veteran's Refuge that you people have no life away from the Computer.
So...there is the Gauntlet. Heres the question:
When was the last time anyone here actually Logged INTO SW:G? Pre-2006? Expertise for Spy or Smuggler? Chapter 6 AI Combat adjustment? Chapter 7 The Return of Aurilla, Dathomir, Heroics and Collections? Chapter 8 Space Collections and ISD Heroic? Anyone here take advantage of the 14 or 21 Day Trials? Or the Buddy Program? Anyone actually Log in to see how active Bria or Starsider or Chilastra or Gorath or Intrepid is currently? Or are all of you so bitter that your too chicken to log in and find that you might actually enoy it?
I Am a 9 Time Elder on Intrepid. I have the ORH. I have Completed the fate of the galaxy quest for the Shard of Retribution. I also have over 120 Badges.
I am sick of seeing you people not move on or grow a clue.
Play SW:G or play something else. Quit complaining about something that happend Over 2 years and 2 months about at minimum. And if some of you are still pi55ed over the Cu....well....Log in....the game is difficult and takes thought.
I agree, these people really need to get over it , It's coming up to three years now, most of them have gone but theres a few stragglers left - As a guy once said, "Get over it" - Wepps.
Account has been stolen, why would someone want to steal my account?
While I am mad about what Lucas Arts Made SOE do to SWG back in 2005 and 2004, moaning and whining over it and w/e else you're doing is a waste of time.
You kids and adults seem to forget that LEC controls what SoE develops for SW:G. You blame and flame and scream at SOE....but one in a thousand complains that it was Lucas Arts/LEC fault for wanting to attract the Numbers that WoW draws.
I am just soooo tired of you people harping on what SOE did to your game. One would think by reading the threads in the Veteran's Refuge that you people have no life away from the Computer.
So...there is the Gauntlet. Heres the question:
When was the last time anyone here actually Logged INTO SW:G? Pre-2006? Expertise for Spy or Smuggler? Chapter 6 AI Combat adjustment? Chapter 7 The Return of Aurilla, Dathomir, Heroics and Collections? Chapter 8 Space Collections and ISD Heroic? Anyone here take advantage of the 14 or 21 Day Trials? Or the Buddy Program? Anyone actually Log in to see how active Bria or Starsider or Chilastra or Gorath or Intrepid is currently? Or are all of you so bitter that your too chicken to log in and find that you might actually enoy it?
I Am a 9 Time Elder on Intrepid. I have the ORH. I have Completed the fate of the galaxy quest for the Shard of Retribution. I also have over 120 Badges.
I am sick of seeing you people not move on or grow a clue.
Play SW:G or play something else. Quit complaining about something that happend Over 2 years and 2 months about at minimum. And if some of you are still pi55ed over the Cu....well....Log in....the game is difficult and takes thought.
I agree, these people really need to get over it , It's coming up to three years now, most of them have gone but theres a few stragglers left - As a guy once said, "Get over it" - Wepps.
Two years, five months and 2 days is not quite coming up on three years. 2.5 maybe. I agree people should stop, but those bitter current players need to stop coming here and aggrivating the situation as well.
well my 2 cents is that there are certain directions a game can go in. instead of taking 2 steps forward and 1 step back SOE has decided to do the opposite from day 1 and take 1 step forward and 2 steps back with this game.
instead of listening to their players when they should have they chose to re-balance and re-balance until they threw the whole philosophy of the game out the window. which is pure laziness and greed on their part. it's not even really a Rpg anymore besides being level based, it's not turn based and there is no multi-classing there is no old school rule set to the game. you can't knock someone down or blind them. they put on a good show though with the dots and buffs that make it not seem like what it really is and that is a MMOFPS.
sometimes i think what swg would be like today if they would have stuck with the philosophy and updated graphics and put in content and fixed bugs. but the truth is swg never knew what it was going to be. so much of the game is a hybrid of cannon because it was being created as the prequels were being made. on one side you have mara jade and thrawn and all that stuff from the EU, and on the other you have stuff they stole from kotor and stuff from the prequels that ROTW is full of. so basically it's just a star wars mess and the only solution is another star wars mmo because me and so many others don't like this game anymore. it's not even star wars, it's just some massive screwed up game that sucks.
albeit there were problems with precu the way it was rushed i never really felt comfortable in all composite in star wars with jedi running around in sunhats just never really felt like star wars to me until vehicles came out and then SOE just kept going with it. during the CU you would see people wearing different armor but they all used the same weapons because it became loot based then the NGE came along and they kept rolling with it still... where the hell do you see a lava cannon in the movies? but then again i didn't ever see a spraystick either.
the game just never knew what it was, it's sad it's still sad. it was alot cooler when i played people took their time and met each other. if a lot of people still enjoy it good for them but i'm going to be waiting for a star wars MMO that is a RPG with star wars continuity and star wars items.
i'll agree that there is still cool stuff about this game. the planets and worlds are beautiful, and there are some star wars things like being able to drop a sf base in your city with atst's and stuff is pretty bad a** everyone likes housing, weather effects... all the stuff they couldn't make instance based in my opinion, basically the things that still survive.
i could go on forever about what's wrong with this game, it doesn't necessarily mean it has to be pre-cu to be a good star wars mmo, but it has to be star wars. SOE as a developer loves to cause drama i have never seen a mmo publisher lie. cheat. and steal from their userbase but SOE consistently does it even to this day. so many people are pissed about that. my whole house was sony, 54" tv everything electronic. now i will never ever buy sony again or pay to play SOE games.
don't worry, i know that there is going to be a new star wars mmo. i'm pretty sure that bioware + lucasarts + richard vogel aren't working on a neverwinter nights or indiana jones mmo. you just have to use common sense.
just checking the bioware austin job listing i found this: Develops and creates fun game play that utilizes the characters and environments of the licensed product in a manner that is acceptable to the licensed product and overall game design. basically it's in the duties for senior game designer, it's a giveaway.
this was also in requirments for the above job: Familiarity with the science fiction and fantasy genre and role-playing games is a must
I say that all vets should no longer respond to any topic telling us to "get over it" just let them silently drift to the back of the forum pages.
SWG is like meeting the hottest chick of all time and then have her give you every STD in the book and then she dresses a monkey up like a baby sues for child support and the judge says yes
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In reply to Archeus (not sure if these images are working, let me know if not)
EDIT: thanks for the kind words Arc, and thanks for there being people like you on these forums to make the expirience a little more pleasant hehe
They working now? if not here are links
www.turboimagehost.com/p/107791/screenShot0009.jpg.html
www.turboimagehost.com/p/107790/screenShot0006.jpg.html
Im from the Uk so the time stamps, i think are my time, so add on 5 hours for eastern time i guess. These screenies are not the most populated (i could have shown guild wars, events etc) but they are general view of what it is like most evenings.
I also apperciate when anyone can honestly tell us, and other consumers, what they like about the current game without denying the game's history, or it's current bugs and issues.
That's a much more helpful approach I think, for the game and for dialogue in general, than what others seem compelled to do at times (e.g. name-calling, or accusations that people's concerns have no validity).
So thanks for your efforts to share a different perspective without the corporate spin and without the use of tactics you often seen on the schoolyard in elementary schools.
Logged in and oh boy! ANOTHER vet reward! roflmao. Let's see. The graphical "enhancements" that they made a year or so ago, still suck. The NGE still sucks, the new classes: well, so many layers upon layers of pure sucktitude that you would be hard pressed to find even one iota of this much suck in any 10 games combined.
Lucas Arts most assuredly said to SOE, hey! things are looking rather sparse over there. Bring us some ideas on how to fix it. The simple facts are, at least as they have been reported over the years, it was SOE that instituted the hologrind, dealing the first of many blows to the community. It was the SOE devs that stated "we watched every day as people got so close to becoming jedi but just missed it". It was Smedley that stated "No one wants to be Uncle Owen or Aunt Beru, people want to be Darth Vader and Luke Skywalker." Of course this was in direct opposition to what the metrics that SOE used to release every couple of months that had CH's and Traders far higher in population than jedi.
Even though he has come on this site several times in an attempt to rewrite history it was Jeff Freeman that said on his own blog How can we do this? How can we not do this? This is too cool not to do! In regards to the NGE and he was an SOE employee.
While Lucas Arts does share in the blame it was SOE that said that the vets were a vocal minority. It was SOE that stated that they did not care what the vets thought, that they (SOE) were going after a new target market. It was SOE that stated that all the problems in SWG would be addressed with the Combat Revamp, which, was summarily discarded after over a year of development with the CU being foisted upon us. It was SOE that performed a complete and total bait and switch promising and teasing with advances and forthcoming improvements to skill sets that were out and outright removed from the game within a short 6 weeks time period.
There might be periods of activity on some servers. However, it is only a fool and a liar that will say that it is anything but a mere shadow of what it had been on the slowest of days, on the least populated of servers, pre-9.
In closing, perhaps you should take your own advice? A whine, regardless of a pro or an anti stance is still nothing more than a whine.
http://www.speedtest.net/result/7300033012
Logged in and oh boy! ANOTHER vet reward! roflmao. Let's see. The graphical "enhancements" that they made a year or so ago, still suck. The NGE still sucks, the new classes: well, so many layers upon layers of pure sucktitude that you would be hard pressed to find even one iota of this much suck in any 10 games combined.
Lucas Arts most assuredly said to SOE, hey! things are looking rather sparse over there. Bring us some ideas on how to fix it. The simple facts are, at least as they have been reported over the years, it was SOE that instituted the hologrind, dealing the first of many blows to the community. It was the SOE devs that stated "we watched every day as people got so close to becoming jedi but just missed it". It was Smedley that stated "No one wants to be Uncle Owen or Aunt Beru, people want to be Darth Vader and Luke Skywalker." Of course this was in direct opposition to what the metrics that SOE used to release every couple of months that had CH's and Traders far higher in population than jedi.
Even though he has come on this site several times in an attempt to rewrite history it was Jeff Freeman that said on his own blog How can we do this? How can we not do this? This is too cool not to do! In regards to the NGE and he was an SOE employee.
While Lucas Arts does share in the blame it was SOE that said that the vets were a vocal minority. It was SOE that stated that they did not care what the vets thought, that they (SOE) were going after a new target market. It was SOE that stated that all the problems in SWG would be addressed with the Combat Revamp, which, was summarily discarded after over a year of development with the CU being foisted upon us. It was SOE that performed a complete and total bait and switch promising and teasing with advances and forthcoming improvements to skill sets that were out and outright removed from the game within a short 6 weeks time period.
There might be periods of activity on some servers. However, it is only a fool and a liar that will say that it is anything but a mere shadow of what it had been on the slowest of days, on the least populated of servers, pre-9.
In closing, perhaps you should take your own advice? A whine, regardless of a pro or an anti stance is still nothing more than a whine.
This is indeed a whine, and when has anybody said there are the same amount of players now as Pre-CU? (the reasons for that are somewhat arguable).
Logged in and oh boy! ANOTHER vet reward! roflmao. Let's see. The graphical "enhancements" that they made a year or so ago, still suck. The NGE still sucks, the new classes: well, so many layers upon layers of pure sucktitude that you would be hard pressed to find even one iota of this much suck in any 10 games combined.
Lucas Arts most assuredly said to SOE, hey! things are looking rather sparse over there. Bring us some ideas on how to fix it. The simple facts are, at least as they have been reported over the years, it was SOE that instituted the hologrind, dealing the first of many blows to the community. It was the SOE devs that stated "we watched every day as people got so close to becoming jedi but just missed it". It was Smedley that stated "No one wants to be Uncle Owen or Aunt Beru, people want to be Darth Vader and Luke Skywalker." Of course this was in direct opposition to what the metrics that SOE used to release every couple of months that had CH's and Traders far higher in population than jedi.
Even though he has come on this site several times in an attempt to rewrite history it was Jeff Freeman that said on his own blog How can we do this? How can we not do this? This is too cool not to do! In regards to the NGE and he was an SOE employee.
While Lucas Arts does share in the blame it was SOE that said that the vets were a vocal minority. It was SOE that stated that they did not care what the vets thought, that they (SOE) were going after a new target market. It was SOE that stated that all the problems in SWG would be addressed with the Combat Revamp, which, was summarily discarded after over a year of development with the CU being foisted upon us. It was SOE that performed a complete and total bait and switch promising and teasing with advances and forthcoming improvements to skill sets that were out and outright removed from the game within a short 6 weeks time period.
There might be periods of activity on some servers. However, it is only a fool and a liar that will say that it is anything but a mere shadow of what it had been on the slowest of days, on the least populated of servers, pre-9.
In closing, perhaps you should take your own advice? A whine, regardless of a pro or an anti stance is still nothing more than a whine.
This is indeed a whine, and when has anybody said there are the same amount of players now as Pre-CU? (the reasons for that are somewhat arguable).
I never said that we had the same population as pre-cu or pre-nge or even pre-publish 9.And yes, perhaps its a bit of a rant. But I see a lot of people in the forums that also post here that continually complain about this or that; and they still pay to play.
So for those that quit......I am not suggesting that you forgive and forget.
but try it out. It is fun again.
MMO History: 2528 days in SW:G
I played from beta to a few months ago. For me I quit because the engine is very weak in its response. The artwork has not progressed. I am fed up with the constant nerfs. The lore of star wars is soooo messed up in this game. I find it has no integrity as a hard core fan of star wars. It took 4 years of constant begging to get the star destroyer in game that one can run a round on. Same for the boardable space station. I just find that the game has not progressed and SOE and Lucas Arts have blown it off. I am fed up with SWG copying World of Warcraft. I am fed up with PvP lag. And most of all I am fed up with how SOE treats their SWG community. It is wrong. So in turn I take my money elsewhere.
Now on the side of things I do like about the game are story teller and beast master. I do like the collection system as it meets a request to use the immense size of the planets. And I love JTLS. But as you notice the biggest hits for the game with new players are pre cu gameplay that gets reintroduced. I do think this dev team is better. But I am a little disgusted with the nerfs and the lack of staff for the fans. And the fact that smedley and lucas arts wont address it in detail concerning the NGE. A classic server would solve this issue. The game has been so dumbed down that I can't enjoy it anymore. Cities are empty. Player cities are empty. Old quests server no purpose. The legacy quest leaves a new player clueless where to go afterwards. The depth of the game is terrible. They need more staff. They need to fix it. Tie it all together.
Nah...it's really not.
Nah...it's really not.
Unless $OE hired a magic Fun genie to take a dump on the ashes of SWG, there is still no fun to be had.
Nice try though....
Post edited for kindness.
Ok Mr. OP... ill make you a deal.. ill get over it when you get over us
"Do not fret! Your captain is about to enter Valhalla!" - General Beatrix of Alexandria
"The acquisition of knowledge is of use to the intellect, for nothing can be loved or hated without first being known." - Leo da Vinci
go unlooted! go!
Owned.
"Do not fret! Your captain is about to enter Valhalla!" - General Beatrix of Alexandria
"The acquisition of knowledge is of use to the intellect, for nothing can be loved or hated without first being known." - Leo da Vinci
Just my two cents. Have fun with that!
"Do not fret! Your captain is about to enter Valhalla!" - General Beatrix of Alexandria
"The acquisition of knowledge is of use to the intellect, for nothing can be loved or hated without first being known." - Leo da Vinci
WoW...
Cool content? KOTOR has better version of Exar Kun and Bioware doesn't charge $15/month to play it...
Busy servers? Screenshots. I challege YOU to provide us screenshots of these busy servers...
Played the game less than 2 months ago. Guess what? You can STILL shoot through walls, NPC's on "quests" STILL spawn in rocks, the severs are STILL dead (worse than ever), and the game STILL isn't worth a crap.
So if you enjoy inflated craptastic economies, playing an online game with noboy online, if bugs with no fixes is your thing, if overall poor gameplay mechanics are up your alley, SWG IS THE GAME FOR YOU!
The OP is clearly the target audience who couldn't compete in Pre-CU. He required the dumbing-down of the game to enjoy it. Congrats. For every 1 of you there are 1000 of us. You are EXACTLY the sort of player SOE/LA were hoping to attract... One who will gladly pay for a garbage game, monthly.
Haha, enjoy your time "in-game AFK grinding... LMAO
Tecmo Bowl.
haha another of this "i ll beg you come into game to populate the servers"
2 months later and still no fun in game right ? lol
A bad news for you.... this will no change ....not before PRE CU is installed on the servers again....
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-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
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OP Way to necro your own post more then 2 mounths after it died.
You earn a golf clap
Exactly! The vets aren't coming back. Get over it.
Very pointless thread.
Viral Marketing.
Tecmo Bowl.
I agree, these people really need to get over it , It's coming up to three years now, most of them have gone but theres a few stragglers left - As a guy once said, "Get over it" - Wepps.
Account has been stolen, why would someone want to steal my account?
I agree, these people really need to get over it , It's coming up to three years now, most of them have gone but theres a few stragglers left - As a guy once said, "Get over it" - Wepps.
Two years, five months and 2 days is not quite coming up on three years. 2.5 maybe. I agree people should stop, but those bitter current players need to stop coming here and aggrivating the situation as well.
well my 2 cents is that there are certain directions a game can go in. instead of taking 2 steps forward and 1 step back SOE has decided to do the opposite from day 1 and take 1 step forward and 2 steps back with this game.
instead of listening to their players when they should have they chose to re-balance and re-balance until they threw the whole philosophy of the game out the window. which is pure laziness and greed on their part. it's not even really a Rpg anymore besides being level based, it's not turn based and there is no multi-classing there is no old school rule set to the game. you can't knock someone down or blind them. they put on a good show though with the dots and buffs that make it not seem like what it really is and that is a MMOFPS.
sometimes i think what swg would be like today if they would have stuck with the philosophy and updated graphics and put in content and fixed bugs. but the truth is swg never knew what it was going to be. so much of the game is a hybrid of cannon because it was being created as the prequels were being made. on one side you have mara jade and thrawn and all that stuff from the EU, and on the other you have stuff they stole from kotor and stuff from the prequels that ROTW is full of. so basically it's just a star wars mess and the only solution is another star wars mmo because me and so many others don't like this game anymore. it's not even star wars, it's just some massive screwed up game that sucks.
albeit there were problems with precu the way it was rushed i never really felt comfortable in all composite in star wars with jedi running around in sunhats just never really felt like star wars to me until vehicles came out and then SOE just kept going with it. during the CU you would see people wearing different armor but they all used the same weapons because it became loot based then the NGE came along and they kept rolling with it still... where the hell do you see a lava cannon in the movies? but then again i didn't ever see a spraystick either.
the game just never knew what it was, it's sad it's still sad. it was alot cooler when i played people took their time and met each other. if a lot of people still enjoy it good for them but i'm going to be waiting for a star wars MMO that is a RPG with star wars continuity and star wars items.
i'll agree that there is still cool stuff about this game. the planets and worlds are beautiful, and there are some star wars things like being able to drop a sf base in your city with atst's and stuff is pretty bad a** everyone likes housing, weather effects... all the stuff they couldn't make instance based in my opinion, basically the things that still survive.
i could go on forever about what's wrong with this game, it doesn't necessarily mean it has to be pre-cu to be a good star wars mmo, but it has to be star wars. SOE as a developer loves to cause drama i have never seen a mmo publisher lie. cheat. and steal from their userbase but SOE consistently does it even to this day. so many people are pissed about that. my whole house was sony, 54" tv everything electronic. now i will never ever buy sony again or pay to play SOE games.
I challenge the OP to provide us screenshots proving ANYTHING he claims towards their being players on the servers...
I am actually considering logging in and taking a number of screenshots just to prove how low the populations are.
Tecmo Bowl.
I logged into the game in October '07. Its easy-mode with no purpose. I was level 30 in less than a week. I didn't meet one person. What's the point?
don't worry, i know that there is going to be a new star wars mmo. i'm pretty sure that bioware + lucasarts + richard vogel aren't working on a neverwinter nights or indiana jones mmo. you just have to use common sense.
just checking the bioware austin job listing i found this: Develops and creates fun game play that utilizes the characters and environments of the licensed product in a manner that is acceptable to the licensed product and overall game design. basically it's in the duties for senior game designer, it's a giveaway.
this was also in requirments for the above job: Familiarity with the science fiction and fantasy genre and role-playing games is a must
Mad no.
will I go back, HELL NO....
to many nerfs, to many class's gone.
Last reason its $OE, I do not Play $OE games any longer..............................................................
I say that all vets should no longer respond to any topic telling us to "get over it" just let them silently drift to the back of the forum pages.
SWG is like meeting the hottest chick of all time and then have her give you every STD in the book and then she dresses a monkey up like a baby sues for child support and the judge says yes