Screenshots (you know, actual support for an arguement) usually ends the naysayers really fast. I dare anyone to look at those screens and say that the graphics are dated or equal eq1, sb etc....simply amazing. May not be AoC...but if you support WAR which is the same style as WoW in 2003, then guess what...you are self-owning yourself.
Isn't it facinating how the 4 year old Darkfall screens look 100X better than the recently released video?
You guys fall for anything.
heh this was surprisingly more original than i thought for a response. but still proves the point that these people just cant admit that the graphics are fine.
"oh damn i just got proven wrong"...."oh well back to the arguement that those screenshots or video must be fake and DF is a big scam"
Sorry we aren't falling for anything. There will be no pre-orders and we get to try the game before we play. If it is a scam, it is the worst scam in the history of scams because they wont be getting anything.
Person 1: "Lol, that trailor is epic lame, the gfx are so clunky. Vaporware ftl" Person 2: "Pfft, carebear, graphics arn't everything, us hardcore PvPers are about gameplay"
This is the basic content of EVERY DF post in existence. So let me ask you this, where is the gameplay?
I don't see any besides a huge wall of text telling us how epic all these features and systems are, but where is the proof? You keep justifying the joke of a trailor as "Gameplay > Graphics" yet Darkfall has NEITHER. Where are some pics of the UI? An actual fight that isn't poorly made cinimiatics? I want DF to work as much as the next guy, but you guys are being overconfident and almost naive. This game has yet to present anything.
Latest video showed us the best gameplay of any gameplay video so far. You have to open up your eyes abit mate. Carebear season will soon be over and we can play a real game as a change.
Screenshots (you know, actual support for an arguement) usually ends the naysayers really fast. I dare anyone to look at those screens and say that the graphics are dated or equal eq1, sb etc....simply amazing. May not be AoC...but if you support WAR which is the same style as WoW in 2003, then guess what...you are self-owning yourself.
Isn't it facinating how the 4 year old Darkfall screens look 100X better than the recently released video?
You guys fall for anything.
Oh and why do you write in orange sometimes and white other times....lol
Also, the screenshots dont look 100x better than the video...the video has some absolutly amazing scenes in it, especially since it was recorded on medium settings.
If you look at the scene where there is that little encampment on the river which is followed by a temple in the desert....you see that they are just as good if not better graphics than the screens i posted.
another off the top of my head is when they walk under the overpass and see that tree in the middle of the lake...yep again, you fail.
Sorry but you arent going to convince anyone. Stop trying to tell us we are falling for something. If you dont like the graphics, fine. But unfortunatly for you the vast majority do not agree since they have eyes themselves and make up their own minds.
Wait until this "Beta" in October. Hopefully there won't be an NDA or anything pesky like that, so these fanboys can make videos showing them actually PLAYING the GAME (gameplay!).
It won't come from Aventurine. They're too busy making the game (fanboy reasoning).
, so these fanboys can make videos showing them actually PLAYING the GAME (gameplay!).
Don't worry, there will still be people on this forum who will claim that the videos are faked and that we arent actually in beta...just Tasos making 1000 accounts and posting videos to further his cult scam.
Btw im just making a general statement, not directed at you bruticus since you are actually one of the only DF skeptics that can actually form a rational thought.
I have to laugh at the above responses, they completely prove my point: You have NO evidence of any gameplay besides an animated movie and walls of text. Just because they threw together a 3D animation of some boats and buildings does NOT prove that this game is anything remotely close to what it claims.
Let me give you a lesson: Cinematics =/= Gameplay. Go watch ANY trailor for a game, it is nothing like the real thing. Until we see ACTUAL mechanics, Example: A fraps of someone actually -playing- the game, building a city, etc, this game is still nothing. Don't you guys wonder why all they have released are trailers and nothing real yet?
Understand that video wasn't a cinematic. It was a full 100% gameplay footage video. The only difference is some of the shots were taken by a movable freecam within the engine so they could get different angles and make the video a bit more interesting. It's not scripted. If it was the camera movements would've been way smoother.
I will agree with game trailers being nothing like the game, that is what Aventurine stated they didn't want to do. Also there are a few small shots of the UI and combat as well.
Isn't it facinating how the 4 year old Darkfall screens look 100X better than the recently released video?
Well the aim was to make sure people can play at playable framerates during 300+ member combat. So there are reasons for why the graphics are reduced. However, those 2004 screenshots are somewhat covered up with heavy bloom lighting. What they have now modeling and design wise is better, but I wouldn't mind seeing it with HDR.
The main thing that I haven't really seen is how PvE content works, or the actual size of the world. But most features in a game like this only the beta will tell, not a 20min video.
, so these fanboys can make videos showing them actually PLAYING the GAME (gameplay!).
Don't worry, there will still be people on this forum who will claim that the videos are faked and that we arent actually in beta...just Tasos making 1000 accounts and posting videos to further his cult scam.
Btw im just making a general statement, not directed at you bruticus since you are actually one of the only DF skeptics that can actually form a rational thought.
Lol, Tasos would be one hell of a multi-tasker if that was the case. Those kinds of people are safe to ignore, and I'm glad you're not grouping me up with 'em. Seeing the game in action is better than any trailer!
Video dude, watch it. That's proof enough that it's better than any other MMO on the market. Not that this would be hard to accomplish. You basically need to NOT have auto-attack you and pretty much win the PvP award. DF not only does that, but it gives us some pretty awesome JKII-esque magic attacks and naval combat. Basically, with what we've seen in the videos alone, we can see that game play will be better in DF than it is in all other MMOs. If the devs come through with the rest of their promises (they've promised over 500 different spells and 500 different skills) then we'll see an overall product that is better in nearly every regard (except graphics of course!). Any other concerns?
i think its 700 skills and spells meaning added together
I have to laugh at the above responses, they completely prove my point: You have NO evidence of any gameplay besides an animated movie and walls of text. Just because they threw together a 3D animation of some boats and buildings does NOT prove that this game is anything remotely close to what it claims.
Let me give you a lesson: Cinematics =/= Gameplay. Go watch ANY trailor for a game, it is nothing like the real thing. Until we see ACTUAL mechanics, Example: A fraps of someone actually -playing- the game, building a city, etc, this game is still nothing. Don't you guys wonder why all they have released are trailers and nothing real yet?
Understand that video wasn't a cinematic. It was a full 100% gameplay footage video. The only difference is some of the shots were taken by a movable freecam within the engine so they could get different angles and make the video a bit more interesting. It's not scripted. If it was the camera movements would've been way smoother.
I will agree with game trailers being nothing like the game, that is what Aventurine stated they didn't want to do. Also there are a few small shots of the UI and combat as well.
Isn't it facinating how the 4 year old Darkfall screens look 100X better than the recently released video?
Well the aim was to make sure people can play at playable framerates during 300+ member combat. So there are reasons for why the graphics are reduced. However, those 2004 screenshots are somewhat covered up with heavy bloom lighting. What they have now modeling and design wise is better, but I wouldn't mind seeing it with HDR.
The main thing that I haven't really seen is how PvE content works, or the actual size of the world. But most features in a game like this only the beta will tell, not a 20min video.
I have to laugh at the above responses, they completely prove my point: You have NO evidence of any gameplay besides an animated movie and walls of text. Just because they threw together a 3D animation of some boats and buildings does NOT prove that this game is anything remotely close to what it claims.
Let me give you a lesson: Cinematics =/= Gameplay. Go watch ANY trailor for a game, it is nothing like the real thing. Until we see ACTUAL mechanics, Example: A fraps of someone actually -playing- the game, building a city, etc, this game is still nothing. Don't you guys wonder why all they have released are trailers and nothing real yet?
I think we are smart enough to know the difference between a cinematic trailer and actual gameplay footage, apparently you are not, however.
There have been several writeups by people who have seen and played the game.
They said beta starts in October. If it doesn't then there are issues, if it does, we will all have our answers.
But, once again, you just need attention. Somewhere this a bridge that is missing a troll.
I have to laugh at the above responses, they completely prove my point: You have NO evidence of any gameplay besides an animated movie and walls of text. Just because they threw together a 3D animation of some boats and buildings does NOT prove that this game is anything remotely close to what it claims.
Let me give you a lesson: Cinematics =/= Gameplay. Go watch ANY trailor for a game, it is nothing like the real thing. Until we see ACTUAL mechanics, Example: A fraps of someone actually -playing- the game, building a city, etc, this game is still nothing. Don't you guys wonder why all they have released are trailers and nothing real yet?
Maybe I didn't say it loud enough.
- FPS/Twitch based combat
- FFA PvP - PvP anywhere.
- Full loot PvP.
- No classes
Darkfall doesn't have to do much to deliver on those.
What do you want, a detailed video explanation of the exact dynamics of looting a player's corpse?
Oh right, I forgot, that's not what you want.
What you want is to troll the game you hate, and you can't think of anything more original than the old "vaporware" crap.
You should get with the times, most of your kind have moved on to trashing the graphics and community these days.
Once again, you don't get it. NONE of those things were in the video. All the video featured was some guys running around and you think that verifies every massive gameplay feature they claim to have?
I'm not a hater, I'm a die hard UO fan who would love nothing more than what DF says it offers, but the fact remains that they have NOT backed any of it up. And to be honest, this ridiculous amount of fanboyism is hurting DF. From crashing every other game's hype to recreating hundreds of YouTube videos to making new user accounts to spam DF love. Stop acting and telling lies about DF, the crap you're spewing is nothing but lies.
You know what you're really doing? Building negative hype, because once the game DOES release and lacks the huge features it promised (which it will), everyone will be extremely quick to cancel their subs. Don't promise the world, because once you do you lose credibility. Darkfall lost it years ago.
are you stupid? or just ignorant? they have backed everything up.
But since you dont believe anything anyone says it will be impossible to convince you.
all those people from the community who went to Aventurines offices and played the game and reported back that all features are in, they are probably in on the whole conspiracy.
And next month when beta guys report back its probably also a lie.
Why would everyone be lying to you? are you paranoid? it certainly dont make much sense, sorry.
are you stupid? or just ignorant? they have backed everything up. But since you dont believe anything anyone says it will be impossible to convince you. all those people from the community who went to Aventurines offices and played the game and reported back that all features are in, they are probably in on the whole conspiracy. And next month when beta guys report back its probably also a lie. Why would everyone be lying to you? are you paranoid? it certainly dont make much sense, sorry.
Yup OP's last post definitely showed us who he is and he lost all credibility.
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
are you stupid? or just ignorant? they have backed everything up. But since you dont believe anything anyone says it will be impossible to convince you. all those people from the community who went to Aventurines offices and played the game and reported back that all features are in, they are probably in on the whole conspiracy. And next month when beta guys report back its probably also a lie. Why would everyone be lying to you? are you paranoid? it certainly dont make much sense, sorry.
Yup OP's last post definitely showed us who he is and he lost all credibility.
I watched the Darkfall trailer and was entirely unimpressed. The blood splatter in particular was extremely tiresome and overdone for my tastes. By the time they got to the hovercrafts, I was actually laughing. It looked incredibly repetitive and boring to me. There is obviously a seriously fanatic cult following for this game, but I just don't see it's appeal either. I played UO way back when but as soon as I tried EQ, I never looked back. FFA PVP doesn't appeal to me in the least no mattter how fantastic the supposed PVE is. I'm not paying a monthly fee to be someone's ganker fodder. Forced PVP is not worth my time or my money. That said, I do hope this game is successful. If only because it will keep the gankers and PVP fanatics out of whatever PVE focused game I happen to play.
Yeah, if you don't like the idea of integrating risk into your daily activities, then DF probably isn't for you. Personally, I cannot play a game unless there is risk. It just makes those games so much more satisfying.
One thing i don't agree with you on is DF's repetitive nature because that's pretty much contrary to what the game is going to be--a pretty well understood notion. I just found it ironic that someone who likes killing monsters all day, leveling up, and then killing more monsters, called DF repetitive. Major source of lulz.
OP you dont get it do you, you dont get how MMO's are made, and you dont get how they are marketed.
First off if im not mistaken beta sign ups stated not too long ago, and I am not even sure if the beta has actually started yet. So nothing is set in stone. This means that things may change in beta. Name me one, just one MMO that released detailed gameplay videos before beta started. I can not think of one and I am an avide mmo follower and old school mmo'er. The reason behind not showing detailed gameplay videos is to not create a "false" hype. If you show something in a video it better be there when its released as some customers may may take intrest in the game due to that video. Otherwise you will create another AoC mess. So we are getting watered down gameplay videos which is understanable at this point in time. As the release date (which is not set) gets closser you will get your detailed gameplay video. Until then the DF fans, and follwers have every right to assume thats what been advertised will be in game, and be enjoyable. Now dont get me wrong theres going to be issues, but it all depends on how effective the DF team is in adressing those issues.
Secondly why does it matter to you how the DF fans feel about this game wheater its false hype or not? Your crying around accomplishes nothing. If your worried that the gameplay is not going to be good great. If it does not meet your standards than you wont feel nearly as bad as when it fails to meet an avid "fanboys" standard. Naysayers will never change any fans mind. The only thing that can change a fans mind is the game itself. So take your crying to a board that might care as this section of forums are for the DF fans.
Thirdly I am not an avid fan of DF. I am approaching this game cautiously as well, but there is no reason for me to spew my reasons all over the boards. If someone asks me what worries me about DF I will tell them, but otherwise my opinons are worthless to the average forum followers. I just think its stupid for people like the OP to invade any game forum to state how something is bad about the game with no knowlage of the gameplay or other reasons. Now if you purchase the game and dissatisfied, imo you have rights to trash the game, but its not out so......
To the DF fans I hope you guys get the game you want. I am going to try it out, so ill see you fellas in game when its out. Just remeber one thing: people like the OP get their fun from the forums they dont care about the game. They just like to troll forums and stir up communities. Sad form of entertainment huh?
Waiting for:EQ-Next, ArcheAge (not so much anymore) Now Playing: N/A Worst MMO: FFXIV Favorite MMO: FFXI
. FFA PVP doesn't appeal to me in the least no mattter how fantastic the supposed PVE is. I'm not paying a monthly fee to be someone's ganker fodder.
You are aware you can attack back right?
Not much confidence in your skills huh...oh well, those AI raid bosses that let you spam the same key over and over should be perfect for ya.
Not to get to off-topic but whats wrong with people who enjoy PvE? Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's any better or worse than PvP. Matter fact, your doing the same thing the OP is doing. Both you fools need to open your eyes to both sides of the situation. Neither has a positive or a negative. It's all a matter of preference. Now that I've said that, i still think DF graphics lack alot. You may think im wrong, I couldn't care the least. Gameplay looks just ok. It looks like normal gameplay combat I see in almost any MMO. I find it quite funny though, that all these smaller game companys have come out with complete failures, yet Darkfall has somehow escaped this scenario without people even playing the game. I hope you guys get what you want. But in the end, you probably won't. This is all of course, if DF doesn't learn from the million examples out there. Goodluck DF fans, but don't start barking quite yet. I'd wait till Open Beta or atleast closed beta to see how everything really plays out.
There isn't anything wrong with people who don't like PvP, or that purely like PvE. What's silly is that they come onto the DF forums and express dislike for a game that has a huge focus on PvP. That's like me going to a ferrari convention and saying that I don't like Ferraris because they go fast. No kidding. Really? They'd promptly tell me to gtfo.
So when we've got a bunch of PvErs coming onto the DF forums getting their panties in a bunch because DF has PvP, we have no choice by the flame the living hell out of them. We just have absolutely no, other, choice.
I have to laugh at the above responses, they completely prove my point: You have NO evidence of any gameplay besides an animated movie and walls of text. Just because they threw together a 3D animation of some boats and buildings does NOT prove that this game is anything remotely close to what it claims. Let me give you a lesson: Cinematics =/= Gameplay. Go watch ANY trailor for a game, it is nothing like the real thing. Until we see ACTUAL mechanics, Example: A fraps of someone actually -playing- the game, building a city, etc, this game is still nothing. Don't you guys wonder why all they have released are trailers and nothing real yet?
Look, if you think it's vaporware, then what are you doing wasting your, and my time here?
And if you'd have seen the other videos they've released then you'd have realized that we actually do SEE someone playing the game while using fraps. Go get informed.
I have to laugh at the above responses, they completely prove my point: You have NO evidence of any gameplay besides an animated movie and walls of text. Just because they threw together a 3D animation of some boats and buildings does NOT prove that this game is anything remotely close to what it claims.
Let me give you a lesson: Cinematics =/= Gameplay. Go watch ANY trailor for a game, it is nothing like the real thing. Until we see ACTUAL mechanics, Example: A fraps of someone actually -playing- the game, building a city, etc, this game is still nothing. Don't you guys wonder why all they have released are trailers and nothing real yet?
Maybe I didn't say it loud enough.
- FPS/Twitch based combat
- FFA PvP - PvP anywhere.
- Full loot PvP.
- No classes
Darkfall doesn't have to do much to deliver on those.
What do you want, a detailed video explanation of the exact dynamics of looting a player's corpse?
Oh right, I forgot, that's not what you want.
What you want is to troll the game you hate, and you can't think of anything more original than the old "vaporware" crap.
You should get with the times, most of your kind have moved on to trashing the graphics and community these days.
Once again, you don't get it. NONE of those things were in the video. All the video featured was some guys running around and you think that verifies every massive gameplay feature they claim to have?
I'm not a hater, I'm a die hard UO fan who would love nothing more than what DF says it offers, but the fact remains that they have NOT backed any of it up. And to be honest, this ridiculous amount of fanboyism is hurting DF. From crashing every other game's hype to recreating hundreds of YouTube videos to making new user accounts to spam DF love. Stop acting and telling lies about DF, the crap you're spewing is nothing but lies.
You know what you're really doing? Building negative hype, because once the game DOES release and lacks the huge features it promised (which it will), everyone will be extremely quick to cancel their subs. Don't promise the world, because once you do you lose credibility. Darkfall lost it years ago.
First off, FPS twitch based combat has been shown in the videos. The end.
Secondly, I wasn't under the impression that NO CLASSES, FFA PvP ANYWHERE, and FULL LOOT, had to be shown on video in order to prove its existence. When Age of Conan was coming out, were people crying about how they needed to actually show a character leveling up in order to prove that the game had levels? No, that would be a ridiculous waste of time.
No classes, full loot, ffa pvp, are not technological feats. They do not need to be shown on video in order to demonstrate proof. The devs have said since day one: 1) ffa pvp anywhere, 2) full loot, 3) no class restrictions. What else do you want? You actually want a video showing an avatar randomly attacking people on every tile in the gaming world? Do you want a video showing someone fighting a monster for 5 minutes while their swordsman ship skill goes from 77.5 to 77.6? Or maybe you want a video of someone killing and looting a corpse. Yeah, maybe that would quell your fears.
I mean, how the hell is a developer supposed to give someone a video that shows no classes? That's like trying to show someone a video of a person who "doesn't" have murderous intent. You just can't show that within a reasonable timeframe. You just take people's word for it. The only thing the devs do need to be proving are the features that actually are restricted by technology/time/lack of money and man power, and thus considered feats of exellence (i.e. 10,000 simultaneous players in the world, naval combat, city sieging, a HUGE world, player housing, etc).
Let's take a look at the release of Crysis. When they were showing off features, they were concentrating on stuff that they actually had to prove, like the physics, the graphics, the sound. But you didn't see anyone begging for a video showing how you could quicksave with the F5 key in Crysis. Why would anyone ask for a video of that. That's something you ask the devs like this:"Hey, will I be able to quicksave?", "Yes," "Thanks!" The end. That's all you need.
The same goes for features like full loot, ffa pvp anywhere, no classes, and whatever other crap you keep asking about.
Originally posted by Netzoko Once again, you don't get it. NONE of those things were in the video. All the video featured was some guys running around and you think that verifies every massive gameplay feature they claim to have? I'm not a hater, I'm a die hard UO fan who would love nothing more than what DF says it offers, but the fact remains that they have NOT backed any of it up. And to be honest, this ridiculous amount of fanboyism is hurting DF. From crashing every other game's hype to recreating hundreds of YouTube videos to making new user accounts to spam DF love. Stop acting and telling lies about DF, the crap you're spewing is nothing but lies. You know what you're really doing? Building negative hype, because once the game DOES release and lacks the huge features it promised (which it will), everyone will be extremely quick to cancel their subs. Don't promise the world, because once you do you lose credibility. Darkfall lost it years ago.
Actually, *you* don't seem to get it. To me it almost seems like you haven't read a thing on Darkfall or even seen the trailer, but I'll stop short of actually accusing you of that. The video was shot using in-game footage. This has been stated before. Read it again, and again until you understand. Then, tell me where you saw auto-attack in the video? Us 'fanbois' have a game company and various sources from that game company - along with a 17 minute trailer of, albeit choreographed, gameplay footage - all more or less in agreement and saying "this is how it is." That is the basis of our assertions that "DF will rule!" What is the basis of your argument? You just have a bunch of other trolls, saying "Nuh uh, DF won't be good. This is fake." Do you believe the moon landing was faked, because there are more credible arguments behind that theory than you have. The last bit I have underlined just supports my initial theory that you don't actually follow the development of Darkfall. It has been stated that people will be able to try the game before they subscribe, so the scenario you paint seems unlikely. Of course, to you Aventurine is just a front for a big conspiracy designed to ensnare PK geeks, so why would you believe them?
. FFA PVP doesn't appeal to me in the least no mattter how fantastic the supposed PVE is. I'm not paying a monthly fee to be someone's ganker fodder.
You are aware you can attack back right?
Not much confidence in your skills huh...oh well, those AI raid bosses that let you spam the same key over and over should be perfect for ya.
Not to get to off-topic but whats wrong with people who enjoy PvE? Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's any better or worse than PvP. Matter fact, your doing the same thing the OP is doing. Both you fools need to open your eyes to both sides of the situation. Neither has a positive or a negative. It's all a matter of preference. Now that I've said that, i still think DF graphics lack alot. You may think im wrong, I couldn't care the least. Gameplay looks just ok. It looks like normal gameplay combat I see in almost any MMO. I find it quite funny though, that all these smaller game companys have come out with complete failures, yet Darkfall has somehow escaped this scenario without people even playing the game. I hope you guys get what you want. But in the end, you probably won't. This is all of course, if DF doesn't learn from the million examples out there. Goodluck DF fans, but don't start barking quite yet. I'd wait till Open Beta or atleast closed beta to see how everything really plays out.
There isn't anything wrong with people who don't like PvP, or that purely like PvE. What's silly is that they come onto the DF forums and express dislike for a game that has a huge focus on PvP. That's like me going to a ferrari convention and saying that I don't like Ferraris because they go fast. No kidding. Really? They'd promptly tell me to gtfo.
So when we've got a bunch of PvErs coming onto the DF forums getting their panties in a bunch because DF has PvP, we have no choice by the flame the living hell out of them. We just have absolutely no, other, choice.
You can just ignore them maybe? I like PvP but not full loot. Cuz if I worked hard to get some awesome weapon or a set of armor and then I get ganked and in a flash its gone that would piss me off so bad.. Yeah I could try and gank them back but thats goign to be hard with out any gear money or weapons.
Unless gear really dosen't matter in this game that would make more sense. But why play a game where you don't get gear thats not cool or is rare? Isn't that what MMORPG's are about, adventuring and getting cool loot?
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Darkfall wins. Vaportrolls lose.
Isn't it facinating how the 4 year old Darkfall screens look 100X better than the recently released video?
You guys fall for anything.
heh this was surprisingly more original than i thought for a response. but still proves the point that these people just cant admit that the graphics are fine.
"oh damn i just got proven wrong"...."oh well back to the arguement that those screenshots or video must be fake and DF is a big scam"
Sorry we aren't falling for anything. There will be no pre-orders and we get to try the game before we play. If it is a scam, it is the worst scam in the history of scams because they wont be getting anything.
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Latest video showed us the best gameplay of any gameplay video so far. You have to open up your eyes abit mate. Carebear season will soon be over and we can play a real game as a change.
Have a nice one
Isn't it facinating how the 4 year old Darkfall screens look 100X better than the recently released video?
You guys fall for anything.
Oh and why do you write in orange sometimes and white other times....lol
Also, the screenshots dont look 100x better than the video...the video has some absolutly amazing scenes in it, especially since it was recorded on medium settings.
If you look at the scene where there is that little encampment on the river which is followed by a temple in the desert....you see that they are just as good if not better graphics than the screens i posted.
another off the top of my head is when they walk under the overpass and see that tree in the middle of the lake...yep again, you fail.
Sorry but you arent going to convince anyone. Stop trying to tell us we are falling for something. If you dont like the graphics, fine. But unfortunatly for you the vast majority do not agree since they have eyes themselves and make up their own minds.
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I won't lol have fun with your game
All he wants, is attention from other haters. We all can see that.
2nd. Go make your own game. and 3rd. We all know your going to start the game when your all other friends quit whining about the game.
And what do you prove with this topic. Thats an question you can't answer. since you don't prove anything.
Bye. Don't get headshot-PKed and full-looted on your way out.
Oh man!!! Sig-worthy.
There is gameplay footage. There is no gameplay.
Enough said.
Wait until this "Beta" in October. Hopefully there won't be an NDA or anything pesky like that, so these fanboys can make videos showing them actually PLAYING the GAME (gameplay!).
It won't come from Aventurine. They're too busy making the game (fanboy reasoning).
Don't worry, there will still be people on this forum who will claim that the videos are faked and that we arent actually in beta...just Tasos making 1000 accounts and posting videos to further his cult scam.
Btw im just making a general statement, not directed at you bruticus since you are actually one of the only DF skeptics that can actually form a rational thought.
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Understand that video wasn't a cinematic. It was a full 100% gameplay footage video. The only difference is some of the shots were taken by a movable freecam within the engine so they could get different angles and make the video a bit more interesting. It's not scripted. If it was the camera movements would've been way smoother.
I will agree with game trailers being nothing like the game, that is what Aventurine stated they didn't want to do. Also there are a few small shots of the UI and combat as well.
Well the aim was to make sure people can play at playable framerates during 300+ member combat. So there are reasons for why the graphics are reduced. However, those 2004 screenshots are somewhat covered up with heavy bloom lighting. What they have now modeling and design wise is better, but I wouldn't mind seeing it with HDR.
The main thing that I haven't really seen is how PvE content works, or the actual size of the world. But most features in a game like this only the beta will tell, not a 20min video.
Don't worry, there will still be people on this forum who will claim that the videos are faked and that we arent actually in beta...just Tasos making 1000 accounts and posting videos to further his cult scam.
Btw im just making a general statement, not directed at you bruticus since you are actually one of the only DF skeptics that can actually form a rational thought.
Lol, Tasos would be one hell of a multi-tasker if that was the case. Those kinds of people are safe to ignore, and I'm glad you're not grouping me up with 'em. Seeing the game in action is better than any trailer!
i think its 700 skills and spells meaning added together
Understand that video wasn't a cinematic. It was a full 100% gameplay footage video. The only difference is some of the shots were taken by a movable freecam within the engine so they could get different angles and make the video a bit more interesting. It's not scripted. If it was the camera movements would've been way smoother.
I will agree with game trailers being nothing like the game, that is what Aventurine stated they didn't want to do. Also there are a few small shots of the UI and combat as well.
Well the aim was to make sure people can play at playable framerates during 300+ member combat. So there are reasons for why the graphics are reduced. However, those 2004 screenshots are somewhat covered up with heavy bloom lighting. What they have now modeling and design wise is better, but I wouldn't mind seeing it with HDR.
The main thing that I haven't really seen is how PvE content works, or the actual size of the world. But most features in a game like this only the beta will tell, not a 20min video.
you missed the pve? going on
I think we are smart enough to know the difference between a cinematic trailer and actual gameplay footage, apparently you are not, however.
There have been several writeups by people who have seen and played the game.
They said beta starts in October. If it doesn't then there are issues, if it does, we will all have our answers.
But, once again, you just need attention. Somewhere this a bridge that is missing a troll.
Tecmo Bowl.
Maybe I didn't say it loud enough.
- FPS/Twitch based combat
- FFA PvP - PvP anywhere.
- Full loot PvP.
- No classes
Darkfall doesn't have to do much to deliver on those.
What do you want, a detailed video explanation of the exact dynamics of looting a player's corpse?
Oh right, I forgot, that's not what you want.
What you want is to troll the game you hate, and you can't think of anything more original than the old "vaporware" crap.
You should get with the times, most of your kind have moved on to trashing the graphics and community these days.
Once again, you don't get it. NONE of those things were in the video. All the video featured was some guys running around and you think that verifies every massive gameplay feature they claim to have?
I'm not a hater, I'm a die hard UO fan who would love nothing more than what DF says it offers, but the fact remains that they have NOT backed any of it up. And to be honest, this ridiculous amount of fanboyism is hurting DF. From crashing every other game's hype to recreating hundreds of YouTube videos to making new user accounts to spam DF love. Stop acting and telling lies about DF, the crap you're spewing is nothing but lies.
You know what you're really doing? Building negative hype, because once the game DOES release and lacks the huge features it promised (which it will), everyone will be extremely quick to cancel their subs. Don't promise the world, because once you do you lose credibility. Darkfall lost it years ago.
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are you stupid? or just ignorant? they have backed everything up.
But since you dont believe anything anyone says it will be impossible to convince you.
all those people from the community who went to Aventurines offices and played the game and reported back that all features are in, they are probably in on the whole conspiracy.
And next month when beta guys report back its probably also a lie.
Why would everyone be lying to you? are you paranoid? it certainly dont make much sense, sorry.
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Yup OP's last post definitely showed us who he is and he lost all credibility.
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Darkfall Releases on: February 25th, 2009
Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
Yup OP's last post definitely showed us who he is and he lost all credibility.
/Signed
Yeah, if you don't like the idea of integrating risk into your daily activities, then DF probably isn't for you. Personally, I cannot play a game unless there is risk. It just makes those games so much more satisfying.
One thing i don't agree with you on is DF's repetitive nature because that's pretty much contrary to what the game is going to be--a pretty well understood notion. I just found it ironic that someone who likes killing monsters all day, leveling up, and then killing more monsters, called DF repetitive. Major source of lulz.
OP you dont get it do you, you dont get how MMO's are made, and you dont get how they are marketed.
First off if im not mistaken beta sign ups stated not too long ago, and I am not even sure if the beta has actually started yet. So nothing is set in stone. This means that things may change in beta. Name me one, just one MMO that released detailed gameplay videos before beta started. I can not think of one and I am an avide mmo follower and old school mmo'er. The reason behind not showing detailed gameplay videos is to not create a "false" hype. If you show something in a video it better be there when its released as some customers may may take intrest in the game due to that video. Otherwise you will create another AoC mess. So we are getting watered down gameplay videos which is understanable at this point in time. As the release date (which is not set) gets closser you will get your detailed gameplay video. Until then the DF fans, and follwers have every right to assume thats what been advertised will be in game, and be enjoyable. Now dont get me wrong theres going to be issues, but it all depends on how effective the DF team is in adressing those issues.
Secondly why does it matter to you how the DF fans feel about this game wheater its false hype or not? Your crying around accomplishes nothing. If your worried that the gameplay is not going to be good great. If it does not meet your standards than you wont feel nearly as bad as when it fails to meet an avid "fanboys" standard. Naysayers will never change any fans mind. The only thing that can change a fans mind is the game itself. So take your crying to a board that might care as this section of forums are for the DF fans.
Thirdly I am not an avid fan of DF. I am approaching this game cautiously as well, but there is no reason for me to spew my reasons all over the boards. If someone asks me what worries me about DF I will tell them, but otherwise my opinons are worthless to the average forum followers. I just think its stupid for people like the OP to invade any game forum to state how something is bad about the game with no knowlage of the gameplay or other reasons. Now if you purchase the game and dissatisfied, imo you have rights to trash the game, but its not out so......
To the DF fans I hope you guys get the game you want. I am going to try it out, so ill see you fellas in game when its out. Just remeber one thing: people like the OP get their fun from the forums they dont care about the game. They just like to troll forums and stir up communities. Sad form of entertainment huh?
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Favorite MMO: FFXI
You are aware you can attack back right?
Not much confidence in your skills huh...oh well, those AI raid bosses that let you spam the same key over and over should be perfect for ya.
Not to get to off-topic but whats wrong with people who enjoy PvE? Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's any better or worse than PvP. Matter fact, your doing the same thing the OP is doing. Both you fools need to open your eyes to both sides of the situation. Neither has a positive or a negative. It's all a matter of preference. Now that I've said that, i still think DF graphics lack alot. You may think im wrong, I couldn't care the least. Gameplay looks just ok. It looks like normal gameplay combat I see in almost any MMO. I find it quite funny though, that all these smaller game companys have come out with complete failures, yet Darkfall has somehow escaped this scenario without people even playing the game. I hope you guys get what you want. But in the end, you probably won't. This is all of course, if DF doesn't learn from the million examples out there. Goodluck DF fans, but don't start barking quite yet. I'd wait till Open Beta or atleast closed beta to see how everything really plays out.
There isn't anything wrong with people who don't like PvP, or that purely like PvE. What's silly is that they come onto the DF forums and express dislike for a game that has a huge focus on PvP. That's like me going to a ferrari convention and saying that I don't like Ferraris because they go fast. No kidding. Really? They'd promptly tell me to gtfo.
So when we've got a bunch of PvErs coming onto the DF forums getting their panties in a bunch because DF has PvP, we have no choice by the flame the living hell out of them. We just have absolutely no, other, choice.
Look, if you think it's vaporware, then what are you doing wasting your, and my time here?
And if you'd have seen the other videos they've released then you'd have realized that we actually do SEE someone playing the game while using fraps. Go get informed.
Maybe I didn't say it loud enough.
- FPS/Twitch based combat
- FFA PvP - PvP anywhere.
- Full loot PvP.
- No classes
Darkfall doesn't have to do much to deliver on those.
What do you want, a detailed video explanation of the exact dynamics of looting a player's corpse?
Oh right, I forgot, that's not what you want.
What you want is to troll the game you hate, and you can't think of anything more original than the old "vaporware" crap.
You should get with the times, most of your kind have moved on to trashing the graphics and community these days.
Once again, you don't get it. NONE of those things were in the video. All the video featured was some guys running around and you think that verifies every massive gameplay feature they claim to have?
I'm not a hater, I'm a die hard UO fan who would love nothing more than what DF says it offers, but the fact remains that they have NOT backed any of it up. And to be honest, this ridiculous amount of fanboyism is hurting DF. From crashing every other game's hype to recreating hundreds of YouTube videos to making new user accounts to spam DF love. Stop acting and telling lies about DF, the crap you're spewing is nothing but lies.
You know what you're really doing? Building negative hype, because once the game DOES release and lacks the huge features it promised (which it will), everyone will be extremely quick to cancel their subs. Don't promise the world, because once you do you lose credibility. Darkfall lost it years ago.
First off, FPS twitch based combat has been shown in the videos. The end.
Secondly, I wasn't under the impression that NO CLASSES, FFA PvP ANYWHERE, and FULL LOOT, had to be shown on video in order to prove its existence. When Age of Conan was coming out, were people crying about how they needed to actually show a character leveling up in order to prove that the game had levels? No, that would be a ridiculous waste of time.
No classes, full loot, ffa pvp, are not technological feats. They do not need to be shown on video in order to demonstrate proof. The devs have said since day one: 1) ffa pvp anywhere, 2) full loot, 3) no class restrictions. What else do you want? You actually want a video showing an avatar randomly attacking people on every tile in the gaming world? Do you want a video showing someone fighting a monster for 5 minutes while their swordsman ship skill goes from 77.5 to 77.6? Or maybe you want a video of someone killing and looting a corpse. Yeah, maybe that would quell your fears.
I mean, how the hell is a developer supposed to give someone a video that shows no classes? That's like trying to show someone a video of a person who "doesn't" have murderous intent. You just can't show that within a reasonable timeframe. You just take people's word for it. The only thing the devs do need to be proving are the features that actually are restricted by technology/time/lack of money and man power, and thus considered feats of exellence (i.e. 10,000 simultaneous players in the world, naval combat, city sieging, a HUGE world, player housing, etc).
Let's take a look at the release of Crysis. When they were showing off features, they were concentrating on stuff that they actually had to prove, like the physics, the graphics, the sound. But you didn't see anyone begging for a video showing how you could quicksave with the F5 key in Crysis. Why would anyone ask for a video of that. That's something you ask the devs like this:"Hey, will I be able to quicksave?", "Yes," "Thanks!" The end. That's all you need.
The same goes for features like full loot, ffa pvp anywhere, no classes, and whatever other crap you keep asking about.
You are aware you can attack back right?
Not much confidence in your skills huh...oh well, those AI raid bosses that let you spam the same key over and over should be perfect for ya.
Not to get to off-topic but whats wrong with people who enjoy PvE? Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's any better or worse than PvP. Matter fact, your doing the same thing the OP is doing. Both you fools need to open your eyes to both sides of the situation. Neither has a positive or a negative. It's all a matter of preference. Now that I've said that, i still think DF graphics lack alot. You may think im wrong, I couldn't care the least. Gameplay looks just ok. It looks like normal gameplay combat I see in almost any MMO. I find it quite funny though, that all these smaller game companys have come out with complete failures, yet Darkfall has somehow escaped this scenario without people even playing the game. I hope you guys get what you want. But in the end, you probably won't. This is all of course, if DF doesn't learn from the million examples out there. Goodluck DF fans, but don't start barking quite yet. I'd wait till Open Beta or atleast closed beta to see how everything really plays out.
There isn't anything wrong with people who don't like PvP, or that purely like PvE. What's silly is that they come onto the DF forums and express dislike for a game that has a huge focus on PvP. That's like me going to a ferrari convention and saying that I don't like Ferraris because they go fast. No kidding. Really? They'd promptly tell me to gtfo.
So when we've got a bunch of PvErs coming onto the DF forums getting their panties in a bunch because DF has PvP, we have no choice by the flame the living hell out of them. We just have absolutely no, other, choice.
You can just ignore them maybe? I like PvP but not full loot. Cuz if I worked hard to get some awesome weapon or a set of armor and then I get ganked and in a flash its gone that would piss me off so bad.. Yeah I could try and gank them back but thats goign to be hard with out any gear money or weapons.
Unless gear really dosen't matter in this game that would make more sense. But why play a game where you don't get gear thats not cool or is rare? Isn't that what MMORPG's are about, adventuring and getting cool loot?