Anyone who preorders Mortal Online will get to play in July. This will probably finish off Darkfall. I hope Darkfall survives though, so people have more options.
Yes, Mortal Online will fininsh off Darfall and if any Darkfall player says that the will not play Mortal Online when it comes out they are lying and everybody knows it.
Certainly anyone who wanted a game similar to Ultima Online.
The main difference i've seen in the two games is that Darkfall was billed as a near-strictly PvP game while Mortal is being labeled as a free world that includes PvP.
I hope it finishes Darkfall, because I don't want to stay here very long. The community is full of poeple that only get enjoyment by ruining others. I hope they stay put and die with the game, to be honest.
Darkfall could flourish if it didn't attract such a bad crowd.
here is what I dont understand. speaking for myself as someone who likes this game. I clearly and witout question get that most people do not like this game.
But that appears to not be enough. Basically gamers are NOT fine just leaving the game and going off to do something else. No, instead they want to come smack the people who like the game as much as possible and do everything in their power to make sure the game doesnt exist for the people who do like to play it.
This is why I completely hate the entire gaming community.
I dont want to join your club, get over it, leave you vampires.
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
here is what I dont understand. speaking for myself as someone who likes this game. I clearly and witout question get that most people do not like this game. But that appears to not be enough. Basically gamers are NOT fine just leaving the game and going off to do something else. No, instead they want to come smack the people who like the game as much as possible and do everything in their power to make sure the game doesnt exist for the people who do like to play it. This is why I completely hate the entire gaming community. I dont want to join your club, get over it, leave you vampires.
Quoted for truth.
People can't just play the game they enjoy they have to be vocal about why (insert game here) sucks and on and on and on. It's getting old and its damn childish.
I don't think any particular game is going to "finish off" Darkfall.
Aventurine is handling that area fine on their own.
-Letting Derek Smart work on your game is like letting Osama bin Laden work in the White House. Something will burn.- -And on the 8th day, man created God.-
If they still insist on releasing a 1rst person only view game it will never be huge. Quite a lot of players want to have a good look at their e peen when they play.
I'm not a no life that sits in front of his computer all day long, I'm an intern that sits in front of his computer all day long.
ive seen 15 year olds running a private server act better and more proffesional then the darkfall staff so to me the game is already a failed game that should just be shut down and the fact it doesent even have half the population some private server have is just a joke
If they still insist on releasing a 1rst person only view game it will never be huge. Quite a lot of players want to have a good look at their e peen when they play.
Personally? I cant stand 3rd person view. I am ok with a game not being huge as long as I can find something that is MMO and is NOT 3rd person view.
This all said, I find it intresting how MO release date has already been moved back and they removed the player housing that they promised. Yet people leave DF becuase of broken promises.
Thing is about all these promises, promises are for small girls. Either I like the game as it is, or I dont. for me personally, not only do I like DF at this time I dont see any other game I would rather play. That said, cartoons and 3rd person view (and dont take this personally) is an insult to me.
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
If they still insist on releasing a 1rst person only view game it will never be huge. Quite a lot of players want to have a good look at their e peen when they play.
I'd take first person with professional devs and a game full of content over third person and Darkfall. And I am not a fan of first person view in an mmo.
-Letting Derek Smart work on your game is like letting Osama bin Laden work in the White House. Something will burn.- -And on the 8th day, man created God.-
Long Answer: DF is already dead, there are people that just haven't realized it. DF died the second their incompentent devs continued with this stream of morons who can't use google to find where the hacks are for their game then download them and disect them. Whose gonna stop them? The guys who made an illegal mod in the first place? I think not. Not to mention the lack of resources to present an actual....you know...LAUNCH.
SV has already proven to be a far more professional company with a clearly defined focus. If people enjoy DF that's great and all, I think you're all morons because supporting a company that has absolutely terrible management is never a good thing. The game in and of itself was somewhat a fresh idea that could have been great, but supporting a terrible company that has turned a great idea into something so awful is just plain idiotic.
If they still insist on releasing a 1rst person only view game it will never be huge. Quite a lot of players want to have a good look at their e peen when they play.
Personally? I cant stand 3rd person view. I am ok with a game not being huge as long as I can find something that is MMO and is NOT 3rd person view.
This all said, I find it intresting how MO release date has already been moved back and they removed the player housing that they promised. Yet people leave DF becuase of broken promises.
Thing is about all these promises, promises are for small girls. Either I like the game as it is, or I dont. for me personally, not only do I like DF at this time I dont see any other game I would rather play. That said, cartoons and 3rd person view (and dont take this personally) is an insult to me.
Perhaps because the MO devs decide to tell the fans well before launch? And I'm willing to bet their website won't advertise those houses 6 months after launch.
-Letting Derek Smart work on your game is like letting Osama bin Laden work in the White House. Something will burn.- -And on the 8th day, man created God.-
Not sure where you came by the information regarding the removal of player housing. It says right on the pre-order/beta page:
During the coming Beta Phases, users with a pre-order will be able to follow and participate in the further development of the core features for release. They include, but are not limited, to:
If they still insist on releasing a 1rst person only view game it will never be huge. Quite a lot of players want to have a good look at their e peen when they play.
Personally? I cant stand 3rd person view. I am ok with a game not being huge as long as I can find something that is MMO and is NOT 3rd person view.
This all said, I find it intresting how MO release date has already been moved back and they removed the player housing that they promised. Yet people leave DF becuase of broken promises.
Thing is about all these promises, promises are for small girls. Either I like the game as it is, or I dont. for me personally, not only do I like DF at this time I dont see any other game I would rather play. That said, cartoons and 3rd person view (and dont take this personally) is an insult to me.
Perhaps because the MO devs decide to tell the fans well before launch? And I'm willing to bet their website won't advertise those houses 6 months after launch.
Bingo!!! It boggles my mind that people can t see that. They re upfront about it and thats all that matters. If they scrap some things you want don t buy it till you get them. Not buy it then find out after the fact. Good company and bad company it s really not hard to figure out.
Anyone who preorders Mortal Online will get to play in July. This will probably finish off Darkfall. I hope Darkfall survives though, so people have more options.
MO will finish off DF just like Conan will finish off WOW. They are all works in progress. EVE is an awesome game, will DF or MO finish that off.
Not sure where you came by the information regarding the removal of player housing. It says right on the pre-order/beta page: During the coming Beta Phases, users with a pre-order will be able to follow and participate in the further development of the core features for release. They include, but are not limited, to: - The full Myrland continent
- At least 9 races, male and female
- Blood mix and character customization
- Main features of the skill system
- Full PvP, full loot
- Full melee and ranged combat
- Basic magic combat
- Mounts and mounted combat
- Basic GUI for the crafting system
- Resource gathering
- Basic Guild mechanics
- Basic player housing
- Basic NPC mobs and wildlife
- Hidden/secret features
Keep in mind those are only the features that you'll be able to test in the next beta phase. They mention in that same release that by Q4 they plan to have all those features fully completed and in a polished release state.
SV has been nothing but upfront about everything so far, most probably because they've learned from both Funcom and AV that lying about things your customers are probably going to find out about anyway is bad business. Better to tell people what's going on, what you're doing currently and what you will be doing in the future. These are all marks of a great company, another good mark is that your developers have proper management, planning and work ethic so you don't have to give your customers/potential customers that much bad news.
You CANNOT compare AV to SV since AV is so insanely mismanaged with a such a terrible mouth piece of a lead. SV is active in their own forums, their website is kept updated and the info we get is usually good. I haven't seen this level of community interaction in a long time, shows that these guys actually care,whether it's about us as talking wallets or otherwise I don't know nor care. Bottom line is they care about keeping their future customers informed, interested and happy, far more than I've seen from AV.
Anyone who preorders Mortal Online will get to play in July. This will probably finish off Darkfall. I hope Darkfall survives though, so people have more options.
MO will finish off DF just like Conan will finish off WOW. They are all works in progress. EVE is an awesome game, will DF or MO finish that off.
What an idiot question.
And what and idiotic statement. EvE is a game with such depth and complexity that you couldn't release a game and have it rival it right off the bat.
DF and MO are EXTREMELY similar games, with some key differences of course. Bottom line is they are both aiming at the the same general crowd of people, Starvault has so far proven to be far more professional about things though.
Age of Conan was a completely different game than WoW altogether, no one in their right mind ever thought it would kill WoW. It would be like saying MO is going to kill WoW, it's a completely ludicrous idea.
Learn how to perceive proper comparisons or refrain from posting crap like this. Conjecturing on whether or not MO will kill DF is a completely logic topic of debate. They are extremely similiar in all but a few ways.
Another proper topic along this lines would be if Aion is going to kill WoW.
MO will finish off DF just like Conan will finish off WOW.
You are comparing Darkfall to WOW? LOL. WOW has 11 million subscribers and Darkfall has 1500. That has to be the worst comparison ever.
How did you quote what he said and still miss the point so horribly?
He said MO will finish off DF just like conan finished off wow basically meaning it won't happen but still the comparison is not between wow and DF you missed two whole gfames to make your point.
but yeah, to call this game Fantastic is like calling Twilight the Godfather of vampire movies....
If they still insist on releasing a 1rst person only view game it will never be huge. Quite a lot of players want to have a good look at their e peen when they play.
Personally? I cant stand 3rd person view. I am ok with a game not being huge as long as I can find something that is MMO and is NOT 3rd person view.
This all said, I find it intresting how MO release date has already been moved back and they removed the player housing that they promised. Yet people leave DF becuase of broken promises.
Thing is about all these promises, promises are for small girls. Either I like the game as it is, or I dont. for me personally, not only do I like DF at this time I dont see any other game I would rather play. That said, cartoons and 3rd person view (and dont take this personally) is an insult to me.
I'm not sure where you're getting your info on MO from, but you should stick to the official site.
Housing is most def. going to be in at launch, they never gave a date for release so they can't exactly push it back. Some players speculated it would release in July, but that was only speculation. I believe that SV hinted at a possible summer release, but they never said it was definate.
DFO uses 3rd person view for melee and harvesting.
How can you complain about it in a game, and then say that you won't play anything other then DFO.
MO is full 1st person, not DFO.
MO has a more realistic stye as the devs are aiming for a more realistic type of game. DFO, as much as I'm sure some fans are going to disagree with this, uses a more cartoonish style. Maybe cartoonish isn't the best way to describe it. Comic? Fantasy? I'm not really sure what word is correct to use to describe the art direction in DFO, realistic isn't it though. It's got a kind of European, gothic, fantasy style about it.
So cartoons (to me that means anything that doesn't emulate a realistic, or photoreasistic approach to art) and 3rd person is insulting to you, but you like DFO. I'm sorry, but your last paragraph is contradiction. If you like a game you like it, but you don't like games with 3rd person and cartoonish style to it?
I don't get it.
You give blatantly wrong information about another game that is taking a realistic aproach, and doing full first person; one that by your own standards should be a game you should want to play, to defend one that, according to your standards is not one you should want to play.
I have to ask.
Did you even think about what you wrote? If you did, did you understand what you were writing?
During the coming Beta Phases, users with a pre-order will be able to follow and participate in the further development of the core features for release. They include, but are not limited, to:
- The full Myrland continent
- At least 9 races, male and female
- Blood mix and character customization
- Main features of the skill system
- Full PvP, full loot
- Full melee and ranged combat
- Basic magic combat
- Mounts and mounted combat
- Basic GUI for the crafting system
- Resource gathering
- Basic Guild mechanics
- Basic player housing
- Basic NPC mobs and wildlife
- Hidden/secret features
We strongly feel that we want these features to have reached a “polished and proper” state before starting the monthly subscriptions, but as always when it comes to game development it’s hard to estimate how long this will actually take. That said we are aiming to reach this state (and start the monthly subscriptions) in Q4 2009, when all the core features above should be in place and thoroughly tested.
MO will finish off DF just like Conan will finish off WOW.
You are comparing Darkfall to WOW? LOL. WOW has 11 million subscribers and Darkfall has 1500. That has to be the worst comparison ever.
How did you quote what he said and still miss the point so horribly?
He said MO will finish off DF just like conan finished off wow basically meaning it won't happen but still the comparison is not between wow and DF you missed two whole gfames to make your point.
AOC probably did steal a couple hundred thousand people away WOW. So that leaves WOW with 10.8 million people. All that MO has to do is steal 1,500 people away from Darkfall, and that will leave Darkfall with 0 people. You are the one who doesn't get it.
No one has played mortal online, we have no idea what its REALLY going to be like....
The number of games i thought i would pwn so i bought at release ........ L2, AOC, vanguard, WAR.
If its going to be sandbox style full open loot pvp, and it has good immersion, i will no doubt drop darkfall for it. Its the kinda gameplay im looking for in a MMO
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Yes, Mortal Online will fininsh off Darfall and if any Darkfall player says that the will not play Mortal Online when it comes out they are lying and everybody knows it.
Adventurine themselves will finish off Darkfall... as they have proven time again, they are highly incompetent!
"No they are not charity. That is where the whales come in. (I play for free. Whales pays.) Devs get a business. That is how it works."
-Nariusseldon
Certainly anyone who wanted a game similar to Ultima Online.
The main difference i've seen in the two games is that Darkfall was billed as a near-strictly PvP game while Mortal is being labeled as a free world that includes PvP.
I hope it finishes Darkfall, because I don't want to stay here very long. The community is full of poeple that only get enjoyment by ruining others. I hope they stay put and die with the game, to be honest.
Darkfall could flourish if it didn't attract such a bad crowd.
here is what I dont understand. speaking for myself as someone who likes this game. I clearly and witout question get that most people do not like this game.
But that appears to not be enough. Basically gamers are NOT fine just leaving the game and going off to do something else. No, instead they want to come smack the people who like the game as much as possible and do everything in their power to make sure the game doesnt exist for the people who do like to play it.
This is why I completely hate the entire gaming community.
I dont want to join your club, get over it, leave you vampires.
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
Quoted for truth.
People can't just play the game they enjoy they have to be vocal about why (insert game here) sucks and on and on and on. It's getting old and its damn childish.
I don't think any particular game is going to "finish off" Darkfall.
Aventurine is handling that area fine on their own.
-Letting Derek Smart work on your game is like letting Osama bin Laden work in the White House. Something will burn.-
-And on the 8th day, man created God.-
If they still insist on releasing a 1rst person only view game it will never be huge. Quite a lot of players want to have a good look at their e peen when they play.
I'm not a no life that sits in front of his computer all day long, I'm an intern that sits in front of his computer all day long.
ive seen 15 year olds running a private server act better and more proffesional then the darkfall staff so to me the game is already a failed game that should just be shut down and the fact it doesent even have half the population some private server have is just a joke
Personally? I cant stand 3rd person view. I am ok with a game not being huge as long as I can find something that is MMO and is NOT 3rd person view.
This all said, I find it intresting how MO release date has already been moved back and they removed the player housing that they promised. Yet people leave DF becuase of broken promises.
Thing is about all these promises, promises are for small girls. Either I like the game as it is, or I dont. for me personally, not only do I like DF at this time I dont see any other game I would rather play. That said, cartoons and 3rd person view (and dont take this personally) is an insult to me.
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
I'd take first person with professional devs and a game full of content over third person and Darkfall. And I am not a fan of first person view in an mmo.
-Letting Derek Smart work on your game is like letting Osama bin Laden work in the White House. Something will burn.-
-And on the 8th day, man created God.-
Short Answer: Yes.
Long Answer: DF is already dead, there are people that just haven't realized it. DF died the second their incompentent devs continued with this stream of morons who can't use google to find where the hacks are for their game then download them and disect them. Whose gonna stop them? The guys who made an illegal mod in the first place? I think not. Not to mention the lack of resources to present an actual....you know...LAUNCH.
SV has already proven to be a far more professional company with a clearly defined focus. If people enjoy DF that's great and all, I think you're all morons because supporting a company that has absolutely terrible management is never a good thing. The game in and of itself was somewhat a fresh idea that could have been great, but supporting a terrible company that has turned a great idea into something so awful is just plain idiotic.
first person ftw melee fights in third person is gay compared to first person melee
Personally? I cant stand 3rd person view. I am ok with a game not being huge as long as I can find something that is MMO and is NOT 3rd person view.
This all said, I find it intresting how MO release date has already been moved back and they removed the player housing that they promised. Yet people leave DF becuase of broken promises.
Thing is about all these promises, promises are for small girls. Either I like the game as it is, or I dont. for me personally, not only do I like DF at this time I dont see any other game I would rather play. That said, cartoons and 3rd person view (and dont take this personally) is an insult to me.
Perhaps because the MO devs decide to tell the fans well before launch? And I'm willing to bet their website won't advertise those houses 6 months after launch.
-Letting Derek Smart work on your game is like letting Osama bin Laden work in the White House. Something will burn.-
-And on the 8th day, man created God.-
Not sure where you came by the information regarding the removal of player housing. It says right on the pre-order/beta page:
During the coming Beta Phases, users with a pre-order will be able to follow and participate in the further development of the core features for release. They include, but are not limited, to:
- The full Myrland continent
- At least 9 races, male and female
- Blood mix and character customization
- Main features of the skill system
- Full PvP, full loot
- Full melee and ranged combat
- Basic magic combat
- Mounts and mounted combat
- Basic GUI for the crafting system
- Resource gathering
- Basic Guild mechanics
- Basic player housing
- Basic NPC mobs and wildlife
- Hidden/secret features
Personally? I cant stand 3rd person view. I am ok with a game not being huge as long as I can find something that is MMO and is NOT 3rd person view.
This all said, I find it intresting how MO release date has already been moved back and they removed the player housing that they promised. Yet people leave DF becuase of broken promises.
Thing is about all these promises, promises are for small girls. Either I like the game as it is, or I dont. for me personally, not only do I like DF at this time I dont see any other game I would rather play. That said, cartoons and 3rd person view (and dont take this personally) is an insult to me.
Perhaps because the MO devs decide to tell the fans well before launch? And I'm willing to bet their website won't advertise those houses 6 months after launch.
Bingo!!! It boggles my mind that people can t see that. They re upfront about it and thats all that matters. If they scrap some things you want don t buy it till you get them. Not buy it then find out after the fact. Good company and bad company it s really not hard to figure out.
I think we will be very suprised of what MO brings to the table coming release.
And no I dont think it will kill Darkfall, at all.
MO will finish off DF just like Conan will finish off WOW. They are all works in progress. EVE is an awesome game, will DF or MO finish that off.
What an idiot question.
Keep in mind those are only the features that you'll be able to test in the next beta phase. They mention in that same release that by Q4 they plan to have all those features fully completed and in a polished release state.
SV has been nothing but upfront about everything so far, most probably because they've learned from both Funcom and AV that lying about things your customers are probably going to find out about anyway is bad business. Better to tell people what's going on, what you're doing currently and what you will be doing in the future. These are all marks of a great company, another good mark is that your developers have proper management, planning and work ethic so you don't have to give your customers/potential customers that much bad news.
You CANNOT compare AV to SV since AV is so insanely mismanaged with a such a terrible mouth piece of a lead. SV is active in their own forums, their website is kept updated and the info we get is usually good. I haven't seen this level of community interaction in a long time, shows that these guys actually care,whether it's about us as talking wallets or otherwise I don't know nor care. Bottom line is they care about keeping their future customers informed, interested and happy, far more than I've seen from AV.
You are comparing Darkfall to WOW? LOL. WOW has 11 million subscribers and Darkfall has 1500. That has to be the worst comparison ever.
MO will finish off DF just like Conan will finish off WOW. They are all works in progress. EVE is an awesome game, will DF or MO finish that off.
What an idiot question.
And what and idiotic statement. EvE is a game with such depth and complexity that you couldn't release a game and have it rival it right off the bat.
DF and MO are EXTREMELY similar games, with some key differences of course. Bottom line is they are both aiming at the the same general crowd of people, Starvault has so far proven to be far more professional about things though.
Age of Conan was a completely different game than WoW altogether, no one in their right mind ever thought it would kill WoW. It would be like saying MO is going to kill WoW, it's a completely ludicrous idea.
Learn how to perceive proper comparisons or refrain from posting crap like this. Conjecturing on whether or not MO will kill DF is a completely logic topic of debate. They are extremely similiar in all but a few ways.
Another proper topic along this lines would be if Aion is going to kill WoW.
Will Black Prophecy kill EvE?
Did TV indeed kill the radio star?
These are all proper comparisons.
You are comparing Darkfall to WOW? LOL. WOW has 11 million subscribers and Darkfall has 1500. That has to be the worst comparison ever.
How did you quote what he said and still miss the point so horribly?
He said MO will finish off DF just like conan finished off wow basically meaning it won't happen but still the comparison is not between wow and DF you missed two whole gfames to make your point.
but yeah, to call this game Fantastic is like calling Twilight the Godfather of vampire movies....
Personally? I cant stand 3rd person view. I am ok with a game not being huge as long as I can find something that is MMO and is NOT 3rd person view.
This all said, I find it intresting how MO release date has already been moved back and they removed the player housing that they promised. Yet people leave DF becuase of broken promises.
Thing is about all these promises, promises are for small girls. Either I like the game as it is, or I dont. for me personally, not only do I like DF at this time I dont see any other game I would rather play. That said, cartoons and 3rd person view (and dont take this personally) is an insult to me.
I'm not sure where you're getting your info on MO from, but you should stick to the official site.
Housing is most def. going to be in at launch, they never gave a date for release so they can't exactly push it back. Some players speculated it would release in July, but that was only speculation. I believe that SV hinted at a possible summer release, but they never said it was definate.
DFO uses 3rd person view for melee and harvesting.
How can you complain about it in a game, and then say that you won't play anything other then DFO.
MO is full 1st person, not DFO.
MO has a more realistic stye as the devs are aiming for a more realistic type of game. DFO, as much as I'm sure some fans are going to disagree with this, uses a more cartoonish style. Maybe cartoonish isn't the best way to describe it. Comic? Fantasy? I'm not really sure what word is correct to use to describe the art direction in DFO, realistic isn't it though. It's got a kind of European, gothic, fantasy style about it.
So cartoons (to me that means anything that doesn't emulate a realistic, or photoreasistic approach to art) and 3rd person is insulting to you, but you like DFO. I'm sorry, but your last paragraph is contradiction. If you like a game you like it, but you don't like games with 3rd person and cartoonish style to it?
I don't get it.
You give blatantly wrong information about another game that is taking a realistic aproach, and doing full first person; one that by your own standards should be a game you should want to play, to defend one that, according to your standards is not one you should want to play.
I have to ask.
Did you even think about what you wrote? If you did, did you understand what you were writing?
http://www.mortalonline.com/news/june-05-06-09
During the coming Beta Phases, users with a pre-order will be able to follow and participate in the further development of the core features for release. They include, but are not limited, to:
- The full Myrland continent
- At least 9 races, male and female
- Blood mix and character customization
- Main features of the skill system
- Full PvP, full loot
- Full melee and ranged combat
- Basic magic combat
- Mounts and mounted combat
- Basic GUI for the crafting system
- Resource gathering
- Basic Guild mechanics
- Basic player housing
- Basic NPC mobs and wildlife
- Hidden/secret features
We strongly feel that we want these features to have reached a “polished and proper” state before starting the monthly subscriptions, but as always when it comes to game development it’s hard to estimate how long this will actually take. That said we are aiming to reach this state (and start the monthly subscriptions) in Q4 2009, when all the core features above should be in place and thoroughly tested.
You are comparing Darkfall to WOW? LOL. WOW has 11 million subscribers and Darkfall has 1500. That has to be the worst comparison ever.
How did you quote what he said and still miss the point so horribly?
He said MO will finish off DF just like conan finished off wow basically meaning it won't happen but still the comparison is not between wow and DF you missed two whole gfames to make your point.
AOC probably did steal a couple hundred thousand people away WOW. So that leaves WOW with 10.8 million people. All that MO has to do is steal 1,500 people away from Darkfall, and that will leave Darkfall with 0 people. You are the one who doesn't get it.
No one has played mortal online, we have no idea what its REALLY going to be like....
The number of games i thought i would pwn so i bought at release ........ L2, AOC, vanguard, WAR.
If its going to be sandbox style full open loot pvp, and it has good immersion, i will no doubt drop darkfall for it. Its the kinda gameplay im looking for in a MMO
Aventurine's fraudulent behavior will finish off this game.