My main petpeeve for EVE is how travel can become a logistic nightmare. I like risk vs reward in missions and PVP, but not risk vs mindnumbingly boring movement of assets.
I understand however that its a tradeoff for having to keep markets operate locally and making cargohaulers usefull. But it still is a pain
Especially when you move around a lot as explorer.
Starting players get to realise that very early on, if they complete all career agents missions. They will have about 10 ships by then as rewards and no money to pay someone to move them.
Interesting. That is actually where the penalty in PvP comes from in EVE: Moving stuff around to where you want/need it.
ISK Costs? You can make the ISK to replace a ship pretty quickly and efficiently. It's getting the replacement out to where you want/need it. That's the real cost factor in the game. The time you spend *NOT* doing what you want to.
I know many veteran players with perhaps 500 mill ISK yet with 10's to hundreds of billions in ships and mods scattered all over the place, just so they don't lose a lot of time when a ship gets blown up. Every so often they go on shopping sprees where they buy up large amounts of stuff and move it to their various stashes so they have it ready when they need it.
So getting into the game is more about having assets than ISK. "But you can get assets with isk!" -- yup, then let's see you get those 20 battleships with rigs, mods & ammo out to the areas you want to have them -- THAT is a trick in and of itself.
My main petpeeve for EVE is how travel can become a logistic nightmare. I like risk vs reward in missions and PVP, but not risk vs mindnumbingly boring movement of assets.
I understand however that its a tradeoff for having to keep markets operate locally and making cargohaulers usefull. But it still is a pain
Especially when you move around a lot as explorer.
Starting players get to realise that very early on, if they complete all career agents missions. They will have about 10 ships by then as rewards and no money to pay someone to move them.
Interesting. That is actually where the penalty in PvP comes from in EVE: Moving stuff around to where you want/need it.
ISK Costs? You can make the ISK to replace a ship pretty quickly and efficiently. It's getting the replacement out to where you want/need it. That's the real cost factor in the game. The time you spend *NOT* doing what you want to.
I know many veteran players with perhaps 500 mill ISK yet with 10's to hundreds of billions in ships and mods scattered all over the place, just so they don't lose a lot of time when a ship gets blown up. Every so often they go on shopping sprees where they buy up large amounts of stuff and move it to their various stashes so they have it ready when they need it.
So getting into the game is more about having assets than ISK. "But you can get assets with isk!" -- yup, then let's see you get those 20 battleships with rigs, mods & ammo out to the areas you want to have them -- THAT is a trick in and of itself.
Good post. ISK on it's own doesn't achieve much.
This is probably the one main thing I get annoyed with. Every few months I have to spend atleast 3 days traveling all over the place selling, reprocessing, and moving "my stuff". It's amazing how many projects/adventures come up, and you're there for a few days then gone, and you leave a trail of ships and Items. If I don't, I will get to the point where my asset tab is almost worthless.
I'm like that too, I like to make sure I tidy up my affairs before moving home. Its something I enjoy though, I do like to keep my assets tidy and minimal.
However, it has to be said that most Eve 'Vets' I've met simply dont do this at all!... they will have thousands of assets scatterd accross the entire galaxy, and when they want something they just use the search function.
Yeah I'm probably OCD. It gets to a certain point, of complete chaos, and it's like an itch I can't scratch. When I keep it clean, it's like a map of all my recent activity, and I like that.
I decided to move out to wormholes again, though this time around I joined a corp with a decidely more PVP bent to it.
But before I jumped in the hole I spent about 3 days consolidating all my assets back into my 'home' system while maintaining a small contingent of ships on the other side of space in case we get a WH exit near there.
Travel is actually one of the most strategic elements in EVE, and just in real life combat, doesn't do you any good to have the greatest fighting force in the world if you can't rapidly deploy it to the scene of the action.
Its one of the more realistic elements of EVE that actually attracts me to the game and while tedious at times , it warms your heart to show up deep in enemy space with a strong force and their fighters are far far away and can't stop you.
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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I'm like that too, I like to make sure I tidy up my affairs before moving home. Its something I enjoy though, I do like to keep my assets tidy and minimal.
However, it has to be said that most Eve 'Vets' I've met simply dont do this at all!... they will have thousands of assets scatterd accross the entire galaxy, and when they want something they just use the search function.
Yeah this is me pretty much. Plus I tend to buy stuff when I'm pretty drunk and then forget about it.
I found 7 CN Seige Launchers in a can in my hangar in Jita last weekend. Another time I found a faction-fit nanocurse - which must have been nearly 2 years old - in some god-forsaken system in Amarr lo-sec.
I'm like that too, I like to make sure I tidy up my affairs before moving home. Its something I enjoy though, I do like to keep my assets tidy and minimal.
However, it has to be said that most Eve 'Vets' I've met simply dont do this at all!... they will have thousands of assets scatterd accross the entire galaxy, and when they want something they just use the search function.
Yeah this is me pretty much. Plus I tend to buy stuff when I'm pretty drunk and then forget about it.
I found 7 CN Seige Launchers in a can in my hangar in Jita last weekend. Another time I found a faction-fit nanocurse - which must have been nearly 2 years old - in some god-forsaken system in Amarr lo-sec.
LOL!!! This is why i do spring cleaning twice a year. I would have stuff in over a hundred stations if i didnt keep up on it lol.
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Good post. ISK on it's own doesn't achieve much.
Give me liberty or give me lasers
This is probably the one main thing I get annoyed with. Every few months I have to spend atleast 3 days traveling all over the place selling, reprocessing, and moving "my stuff". It's amazing how many projects/adventures come up, and you're there for a few days then gone, and you leave a trail of ships and Items. If I don't, I will get to the point where my asset tab is almost worthless.
I'm like that too, I like to make sure I tidy up my affairs before moving home. Its something I enjoy though, I do like to keep my assets tidy and minimal.
However, it has to be said that most Eve 'Vets' I've met simply dont do this at all!... they will have thousands of assets scatterd accross the entire galaxy, and when they want something they just use the search function.
Yeah I'm probably OCD. It gets to a certain point, of complete chaos, and it's like an itch I can't scratch. When I keep it clean, it's like a map of all my recent activity, and I like that.
I decided to move out to wormholes again, though this time around I joined a corp with a decidely more PVP bent to it.
But before I jumped in the hole I spent about 3 days consolidating all my assets back into my 'home' system while maintaining a small contingent of ships on the other side of space in case we get a WH exit near there.
Travel is actually one of the most strategic elements in EVE, and just in real life combat, doesn't do you any good to have the greatest fighting force in the world if you can't rapidly deploy it to the scene of the action.
Its one of the more realistic elements of EVE that actually attracts me to the game and while tedious at times , it warms your heart to show up deep in enemy space with a strong force and their fighters are far far away and can't stop you.
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Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
Yeah this is me pretty much. Plus I tend to buy stuff when I'm pretty drunk and then forget about it.
I found 7 CN Seige Launchers in a can in my hangar in Jita last weekend. Another time I found a faction-fit nanocurse - which must have been nearly 2 years old - in some god-forsaken system in Amarr lo-sec.
Give me liberty or give me lasers
LOL!!! This is why i do spring cleaning twice a year. I would have stuff in over a hundred stations if i didnt keep up on it lol.
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thats MY ship! I borrowed it to you ages ago and you never gave it back
GEIF!