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Starvault CEO: If you don't support MO, it could be the end sandbox MMOs; Does not like trolls on mm
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I too LOLd at this pathetic attempt to hold the entire genre of sandbox MMOs hostage by saying if people don't support SV and MO it could be the end of sandbox MMOs. Self important much?
Exactly!
True mages don't die. They strategically miscalculate.
I really think he believes that. Starvault has felt arrogant from the beginning from following them in the closed beta. Not updating customers on what is going on, leaving the server down the entire weekend, etc. But I guess I am not "hardcore" enough to have dealt with it.
I totally agree, SV is not the end all be all of Sandbox games lol.Darkfall despite not being crazy about it, isnt bad, and its doing pretty good from what i experienced on my trial. i tried MO in its current state and its total crap, I would barely consider it an ALpha state.
Also there is a cyberpunk MMO coming out from a start up in the next 2 years roughly, that is skill based, and sandboxy and you have alot of freedom. henrik seems arrogant, like they are they end all be all of sand box pvp games, please dude stop smoking dat shit lol. If the game is sellable from a gameplay standpoint, is solidly supported as well as properly managed and developed by the developers any real publisher worth their guff will support and finance it freely knowing there will be a considerable profit margin to be made.
But i equally agree from the community there has been alot of crap pumped out trying to replicate WOW's success, its not gonna happen. Focus on something else, do it well, and people will flock to it and pull out their wallets if it is done well, and it fits their interests. old tride and true method =" SUPPLY VS DEMAND" SIMPLE ECONOMICS PEOPLE lol.
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I see similar things happening with when Darkfall launched. Here's the big differences though.
When Darkfall launched, there was a pre set group of people who HATED Darkfall, the vaportrolls. No one really knows why. They thought the game was fake for so many years, came up with the most INSANE conspiracy theories, and when the game was proved to be coming out, they went nuts and went on a campaign to ultimately ruin the game. So much misinformation was tossed around that many darkfall players just stopped coming to these particular forums. It wasn't ALL vapor trolls, some people just didn't like the game, but thus is life.
With Darkfall there was no real reason for the hatred, as the game was fairly stable and launched with most of its promised features intact and functioning.
Mortal Online attracts large amount of hatred due to the unprofessionalism of the dev team, selling beta access for 70 bucks a pop, up to about 8 delays so far I think, and how almost NOTHING in the game works.
That is why people trash Mortal Online. It's not even close to how Darkfall was in alpha, or most other games.
And no, I'm not saying that cause I got killed, or got lost. I love the MO ideas, I LOVE not having a map, I wanted this game to succeed, but they simply didn't have enough money, or competent coders.
Shame.
So the big difference, most things that were said about Darkfall at launch were wrong, most things said about MO at launch are true.
www.youtube.com/watch
Watched this a second ago, dont see how people cant see the potential here, im gonna try it as soon as my new system turns up.
Ex. myth of soma, legend of mir, mu online and eudemons online player.
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That video is like a huge false advertisement.
The trailer is definitely nice, however from what i understand most of what you see isn't even in game yet. With release imminent (2 weeks) how likely is it this stuff with make it in for launch and be working?
This is definitely a case where people really should wait, and not pre-order or purchase (post launch) unless you're willing to pay for a beta for a few months.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
No one said anything about not having potential. But the devs have not been reliable. The game is not even functional in a beta form. They had a pre made engine and in 3 years they couldn't even get basic combat working.
darkfall also isnt only other sandbox out there, e.g. dawntide is now in closed beta and it looks that it could be good game
I tried that, the game is really bad.
I know it's been said in places in this thread, but having your CEO use words like "ain't" and refering to stuff as "shit" is as unprofessional as it can get.
I also realize that it was on IRC so in real time but the typos non-stop were brutal.
I have had some interest in MO and have considered perhaps one day giving it a shot. But it definetly hurts the chances and any confidence in a company when the head of the show is that unprofessional all around.
I tried that, the game is really bad.
i also tried that and dont think so. does it have a lot of bugs and notimplemented features? sure it does - but thats what beta is for. was you ever before in closed beta of any game? and i dont even mean only smaller titles - man, i still remember eq2 and vanguard betas ....
I tried that, the game is really bad.
i also tried that and dont think so. does it have a lot of bugs and notimplemented features? sure it does - but thats what beta is for. was you ever before in closed beta of any game? and i dont even mean only smaller titles - man, i still remember eq2 and vanguard betas ....
It is still better than Mortal's beta just because Dawntide is still in a beta with no launch planned (or that I have heard) MO is launching with broken systems and people still want to use the excuse "its still beta"
IRC loves me!
It has happened before and it will happen again and again. Companies that release games that are broken and imcomplete do not last long, hopefully companies will learn that and stop releasing incomplete products. But they might not...
Preach on, Brother!
This is utter truth, and deserves repeating: Good games will thrive.. whether they are sandbox, themepark or something else. Bad games will die.
DF isnt a sandbox.. Its a arena based pvp game where the arena is a large empty world. DF is only a sandbox to those that have no clue on what a sandbox game truly offers.
MO is going to have the same problem.
Not sure I'd call it poor communication but here are the links for people to judge on their own,,,
Maerlyn-- community manager
http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/search.php?searchid=1037969
Mats Persson-- creative director http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/search.php?searchid=1037976
RSS feed dev tracker--- http://www.mortalarena.com/devtracker.php
Would be nice if they had an onsite dev tracker since the unofficial one is hopelessly outdated-- http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/2135-unofficial-dev-tracker.html
Thanks for the links. It's actually quite entertaining, because you have multiple examples of Mats arguing with forum members and basically trying to berate them. You have the same type of behavior by Sebastian in IRC on a regular basis, and StJudas basically everywhere he was.
On top of all that, you have a CEO who acts like a 12 year old and is now telling people that if they aren't guilted into buying MO, there won't ever be another game like it -- when there are games in development right behind it offering similar type of game styles.
StarVault is pathetic, their management is childish and amateur, and I've never seen a more unprofessional company since... well since Dark and Light, or Mourning.
The purpose of the OP was to illustrate how the CEO is using scare tactics and trying to "guilt" people into buying MO and supporting basically what is a complete failure of a game.
Many pointed out early on that the CEO has tried this track before, and the sheer unprofessionalism that exuded from him and the dev team has been a constant thing.
Of course, osmunda tried to prove us all wrong by linking us to stuff that SHOWS THEM ACTING UNPROFESSIONALLY. My point was simply that, that SV and its CEO are unprofessional, and incidentally, that happens to still be on the topic of this thread.
Just because you don't like it doesn't mean that it's a derailment of the thread -- if anything, what you are saying is derailing the thread. And it's no wonder your posts got deleted. Don't worry -- I've had my fair share deleted as well, and the only thing I can say about that is that at least it's even handed.
Honestly the thread was made to poke fun at comments being made in IRC, it seems just about every post is on the topic of IRC except this one, go figure.
If your comments were erased they were out of line, it's as simple as that.
As for MMORPG.com, aiding some conspiracy to oust the little guy, ROFL!
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Yep, that is a problem. Some people and some devs mistake the freedom for no restriction environment...and on top of their self-delusion they call it a sandbox.
Yep, that is a problem. Some people and some devs mistake the freedom for no restriction environment...and on top of their self-delusion they call it a sandbox.
Take any MMORPG on the market, allow FFA PvP and loot. Then remove all content and you end up with StarVaults definition of sandbox.
I win!!! LOL@U
DF isnt a sandbox.. Its a arena based pvp game where the arena is a large empty world. DF is only a sandbox to those that have no clue on what a sandbox game truly offers.
MO is going to have the same problem.
Darkfall is the sandbox that puts UO to shame
learn a thing or two
DF isnt a sandbox.. Its a arena based pvp game where the arena is a large empty world. DF is only a sandbox to those that have no clue on what a sandbox game truly offers.
MO is going to have the same problem.
Darkfall is the sandbox that puts UO to shame
learn a thing or two
umm...No.
DF isnt a sandbox.. Its a arena based pvp game where the arena is a large empty world. DF is only a sandbox to those that have no clue on what a sandbox game truly offers.
MO is going to have the same problem.
Darkfall is the sandbox that puts UO to shame
learn a thing or two
umm...No.
yes
DF isnt a sandbox.. Its a arena based pvp game where the arena is a large empty world. DF is only a sandbox to those that have no clue on what a sandbox game truly offers.
MO is going to have the same problem.
Darkfall is the sandbox that puts UO to shame
learn a thing or two
As for you good sir, I take it you haven't touched UO, or at least not tried it Pre-Trammel. But let's not talk about UO here and focus on "DFO" being superior. DarkFall is a great game, I'll admit that much and I played for several months (just recently stopped playing though) but DarkFall also has it's issues.
The inter-clan economy barely exists. Pretty much every players have 2-3 maxed craft skills for their conveniance. Everyone is a craftor and just prefer to trade materials within the clan.
The Clan System, alignement system, villages system, and more needs A LOT of work on it. Go read the DarkFall Community Expansion Wishlist, that thread specifies all the issues in DarkFall and also how to fix them, that list is, I may add, freaking long. I'm guessing you haven't experienced much of the game yet based on your comment.
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Back to topic, It's hard to stay on topic at this point. Pretty much everything that had to be said regarding Henrick and SV has been said. They are unprofessional, self-centered and unable to fix their issues.