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You need to take a look at how many dress up pieces of clothing are in the game. My main was a tailor - I know there are a LOT of them.
You're wrong about how often people talk about how the gear looks, as well.
"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2
Exactly. There is little incentive to spend dev time on "fluff" items. Sure fluff is good to keep variaty to the gameplay, and I often enjoy collecting pets or unique items, but that is NOT the main focus of the game.Not many people pay to play WoW just so that they can dress up in "elegant dress" and dance in IF. If Blizz would try to appeal to that tiny audience, they risk boring the rest of players by not providing content for the main aspect of the game - leveling, questing, guilds, raiding...etc.
So don't expect tons of new "fluff" content. Maybe now and then something new comes up, but I am not holding my breath for 100 new non-combat pets coming out next patch.
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor - pre-WW2 genocide.
uh... im also a tailor and I never... EVER... been asked to create a fluff item. And I played since beta on and off. But hey, you live in your own world and If the only reason you play WoW is to dress up your char - good for you! Unfortunately for you and fortunately for me, Blizz caters to players like me, and not like you. I'd rather have Blizz design 10 new dungeons and only 1 dress than 10 new dresses and only 1 dungeon.
Game over.
EDIT: speeling errorerz
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor - pre-WW2 genocide.
Yeah but soon they will realise that they're gonna make more money with those 10 dresses then a dungeon. They're testing the players for now. After all they care only for $$. Before the best way to make $$ was to make a great game, soon it will change.
if 10,000 players care about 10 dresses more than 10 dungeons and 10,000,000 people care more about 10 dungeons than 10 dresses, who do you think Blizzard will be designing content for?
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor - pre-WW2 genocide.
Until Blizzard tries to sell something that would alter the game in any way, they can sell pets/mounts all they want and I will have no problem with it at all.
Exactly what I'm trying to say. If we are 10 million peoples that don't care about those 10 dresses then we should make that clear. But if even 20% of the players buy something from the shop then blizzard will realise that peoples care a bit more about the dresses and the money it's easier that way. We should let them know that this is not the way to go.
HEHE believe me, Blizzard knows what we, the 10mil people, want. The fact that WoW still remains on top after so many years is more then enough proof that Blizzard is going in the right direction. Oh, they are still trying to please other folks too, they give free fluff items from time to time and they try to make an extra buck selling some other fluff on the side. But i have no doubts that they would never try to jeopardise their existing client base by selling something that affects those 10 mil people. So there is no need to panic. Not until they start selling exp potions or other items giving in-game advantage over others for real life cash.
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor - pre-WW2 genocide.
but if those 10.000 players generate $250,000 extra income and the 10 dungeons gneerate notihng extra but keep peopel subbing thne they may make 10 more dresses for that 10,000 and 8 or less dungeons for 10,000,000 people,or whatever they ocnsider neough to keep peopel form unsubbing.
Im really hoping for Blizzard to release a press release, from my understanding they set some insane sales record just in the first hour of the new items on the store!!!!
This is great news as those of us that enjoy RMT will continue to spend and support such shops!
I know for sure, if this was blizzards way of testing the grounds to see how the 'majority' of players felt, its a huge success and i cant wait to see what else will pop up on the store to purchase!!!
Extra buck? They're still not happy with billions of cash they get from us? If Blizzard is not happy then imagine the other companies. It will become a trend. All this extra bucks shows to me that they care only about the $$ so you put too much trust in a company. Ok you don't care about fluffy things like me but at least don't bow so easily. Blizzard will gonna push more and more. It all depends on where you as a player say is enough.
10 dungeons qualify to be part of the expansion. 10,000,000 pay around 50$ per expansion. So thats 500,000,000 right there.250,000 extra is still nice, that's why they are doing it. But they would never do something that would earn them 250,000, but jeopardise potential 500,000,000. Thats why we are safe from anything being sold that affects the game play. They can sell fluff items all they want, that decision will not affect the majority of the population.
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor - pre-WW2 genocide.
If suckers are gonna pay for it, why not charge it? That's the point. There is demand, however high or low it may be, so, as a company, Blizzard caters to it - but they decide to charge a few extra bucks to do so. It's their decision; your decision is, like you said, when to say "enough is enough".
I don't think they are testing the waters or anything, because how can they test the majority if the things they are implementing does not touch that majority? I could understand if they were selling exp potions for cash... if that exp pot would give just a tiny 1% extra exp, that would probably qualify as a testing for the future (and most likely major) expansion into cash shops. But for now, most people don't care about the fluff items being sold.
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor - pre-WW2 genocide.
Of course they care about the extra $$ - they are a business! Im not bowing to anything because nothing they did so far affected me negatively. My experience has not changed at all.
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor - pre-WW2 genocide.
It hasn't affected me either, but I care about other players and the future of the genre. You, apparently, do not.
"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2
It has definitely been a huge hit.
I know at least four friends irl that have purchased the mount, and a few more who have purchased both the mount and the pet, within the first hour that the items became available on the store. I would not be surprised at all to hear that they set a sales record because these products (the mount in particular) are selling like hot cakes.
I'm looking forward to seeing what else they add, as long as they keep it limited to items that have no real bearing on the game itself.
You are correct to a point - they can charge all they want for things that do not affect the experiences of their current playerbase. But as soon as they start charging for something that affects the game play itself, then we can all jump up and scream "enough is enough". But for now, there is nothing to scream about. Only people that care more about fluff then the actual game will be pissed for obvious reasons.
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor - pre-WW2 genocide.
I care more about 10,000,000 then 10,000. You obviously think 10,000 players are more superior than the rest of us, peasants.
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor - pre-WW2 genocide.
So, you expect the entire WoW player base to erupt if one or two items go into the cash shop that increase xp gain, or MP recovery, or perhaps a hearthstone with a 15 minute cooldown? You are saying that your personal breaking point will match up the great majority of players?
"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2
And think about this, if selling fluff items was a great hit, they haven't changed the game itself AND they earned a sizable profit from it. Now, some (or most) of that profit will go into people's pockets (owners basically), but some may just end up in the development of new content. And just maybe that new content will not be fluff, but will be a new dungeon or new class (gasp!). Is that not a good thing?
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor - pre-WW2 genocide.
The numbers of players affected will grow. It is far easier to stop this before it gains momentum than after. It will snowball if left alone.
I doubt if 10,000,000 players will leave if a couple of minor game-effect items go into the cash shop.
"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2
I think that I, like the majority of the playerbase, do not care if someone pays for an item with real money as long as that item does not give him any advantages over my own character. Yeah, if suddenly 10 extra bucks a month would give u a 20% more dmg against me then people would erupt in a huge fireball and Blizzard servers would overload from all the "unsubscribe" clicks.
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor - pre-WW2 genocide.
if by game-effect items u mean things that affect your gameplay then you can bet that a LOT of people would leave. Myself included. I do not like to play a game where the advantage is not in what skills you have but how much you pay per month.
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor - pre-WW2 genocide.
So, it's only PvP items that you are concerned about?
What if it was just 2% more damage?
"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2