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Refund successful and account banned, good luck with MO

rlmccoy1987rlmccoy1987 Member Posts: 1,722

Just found out that SV banned my account as my dispute has successfully gone through (meaning I got a refund).  Just wanted to to wish all the fans good luck on the game.  I am not sure if the game will survive for a few months due to everyone leaving because of the bugs and no content.  I am just glad I got away from it while I was in the first 60 days to get the refund.

 

Wish I could say it has been fun, but this game and its development cycle have scared my view of MMO indie developers.

Good luck with this game, it REALLY needs it...  image

 

 

PS - To the people who are saying I am a fraud or I am frauding SV... do they not know that the game is 60% incomplete and was down for 2 weeks?  It sounds more like SV is frauding its customers, but you can decide that.

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  • IkonicIkonic Member UncommonPosts: 310

    Its not his first charge back, read his post history. He will be trying for Xsyon refund shortly I am sure.

  • rlmccoy1987rlmccoy1987 Member Posts: 1,722

    Originally posted by Aercus

     

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    What fraud?  What are you talking about?

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  • rlmccoy1987rlmccoy1987 Member Posts: 1,722

    Originally posted by Xianthos

    Originally posted by Ikonic

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    Please explain why you are saying it is fraud to ask for a refund from a game that is 60% incomplete.

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  • AercusAercus Member UncommonPosts: 775

    Originally posted by rlmccoy1987

    Originally posted by Aercus

     

     [Mod Edit]

     

    What fraud?  What are you talking about?

     I already quoted your post the first time...

  • GruntyGrunty Member EpicPosts: 8,657

    Originally posted by Aercus

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    It's not necessarily fraud but multiple charge-backs will have a negative effect on credit ratings. It can be inferred there is a lack of reasoned decisions toward purchases from such behavior.

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  • rlmccoy1987rlmccoy1987 Member Posts: 1,722

    Originally posted by Aercus

     

     I already quoted your post the first time...

     

    Where did I do something that is fraudulent?  Getting my money back when the game was down for 2 weeks and it is 60% incomplete?

     

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  • XianthosXianthos Member Posts: 723

    Originally posted by rlmccoy1987

    Originally posted by Xianthos


    Originally posted by Ikonic

    Its not his first charge back, read his post history. He will be trying for Xsyon refund shortly I am sure.

    The question which i have in my had, is he really so dumb not to inform before about a game or he wants to fraud them on purpose?

     

    Please explain why you are saying it is fraud to ask for a refund from a game that is 60% incomplete.

    As i know its not your first refund and you inform yourself a lot of about the game, you knew how it would end up and there for want to hurt the image of a company toward paypal / cc companys on purpose and thats why fraud.

     


    Originally posted by rlmccoy1987

    Originally posted by Aercus


     

     I already quoted your post the first time...

     

    Where did I do something that is fraudulent?  Getting my money back when the game was down for 2 weeks and it is 60% incomplete?

     

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    You knew it was incomplete before and you planed to do chargeback and thats why it is still fraud.

     

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  • RealbigdealRealbigdeal Member UncommonPosts: 1,666

    You dont deserve to buy with a credit card.

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  • AercusAercus Member UncommonPosts: 775

    Originally posted by rlmccoy1987

    Originally posted by Aercus

     

     I already quoted your post the first time...

     

    Where did I do something that is fraudulent?  Getting my money back when the game was down for 2 weeks and it is 60% incomplete?

     

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     How did you arrive to that conclusion? Have they provided an extensive list over items yet to be completed?

    Essentially: You bought a game. You received a game. You didn't like the game. If the last sentance had been "Game did not work for anyone, at any time", you would not have commited fraud. Since the game clearly works, at least occationally and for some people, you received what you bought and have committed fraud. You better hope the card issuer doesn't feel like looking into the issue.

  • XerithXerith Member Posts: 970

    Its normally up to the bank/credit card company on whether they will allow the chargeback or not, and normally you need to provide some sort of evidence to support your claim. Id be interested in hearing what exactly you told them in order for them to allow the chargeback.

  • IkonicIkonic Member UncommonPosts: 310

    Originally posted by rlmccoy1987

    Just found out that SV banned my account as my dispute has successfully gone through (meaning I got a refund).  Just wanted to to wish all the fans good luck on the game.  I am not sure if the game will survive for a few months due to everyone leaving because of the bugs and no content.  I am just glad I got away from it while I was in the first 60 days to get the refund.

     

    Wish I could say it has been fun, but this game and its development cycle have scared my view of MMO indie developers.

    Good luck with this game, it REALLY needs it...  image

     

     

    PS - To the people who are saying I am a fraud or I am frauding SV... do they not know that the game is 60% incomplete and was down for 2 weeks?  It sounds more like SV is frauding its customers, but you can decide that.

    Did Aion, Darkfall, and STO fraud you as well?

  • rlmccoy1987rlmccoy1987 Member Posts: 1,722

    Originally posted by Xerith

    Its normally up to the bank/credit card company on whether they will allow the chargeback or not, and normally you need to provide some sort of evidence to support your claim. Id be interested in hearing what exactly you told them in order for them to allow the chargeback.

     

    Told them the truth.  Game was incomplete (provided pictures of blank skill books)  I think told them about server downtime, had about 25 links to threads with hundreds of posts about people complaining about the down time.  I then informed them about the bugs and gave them pictures of the NPC stacking bug that had been there since block A.  I also gave them information about how StarVault said all the systems were in the game at launch, yet most were broken or placeholders.

     

    Want to ask the fans attacking me in this thread, how is that fraud?

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  • rlmccoy1987rlmccoy1987 Member Posts: 1,722

    Originally posted by Xianthos

     

    As i know its not your first refund and you inform yourself a lot of about the game, you knew how it would end up and there for want to hurt the image of a company toward paypal / cc companys on purpose and thats why fraud.

     

     

    Where did you make that up from?  I did it on purpose to hurt their paypal or CC?  *sigh*

     

    They should have released a working game, but blame it on the customer and not the company producing the game...  image

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  • XianthosXianthos Member Posts: 723

    Originally posted by rlmccoy1987

    Originally posted by Xerith

    Its normally up to the bank/credit card company on whether they will allow the chargeback or not, and normally you need to provide some sort of evidence to support your claim. Id be interested in hearing what exactly you told them in order for them to allow the chargeback.

     

    Told them the truth.  Game was incomplete (provided pictures of blank skill books)  I think told them about server downtime, had about 25 links to threads with hundreds of posts about people complaining about the down time.  I then informed them about the bugs and gave them pictures of the NPC stacking bug that had been there since block A.  I also gave them information about how StarVault said all the systems were in the game at launch, yet most were broken or placeholders.

     

    Want to ask the fans attacking me in this thread, how is that fraud?

    As i said you bought this after you already knew about all these things and planned to do chargeback and that is fraud.


    Originally posted by rlmccoy1987

    Originally posted by Xianthos


     

    As i know its not your first refund and you inform yourself a lot of about the game, you knew how it would end up and there for want to hurt the image of a company toward paypal / cc companys on purpose and thats why fraud.

     

     

    Where did you make that up from?  I did it on purpose to hurt their paypal or CC?  *sigh*

     

    They should have released a working game, but blame it on the customer and not the company producing the game...  image

    Why the hell did you buy the game if you knew it was incomplete? You knew it was incomplete ergo dont buy it.

     

     

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  • rlmccoy1987rlmccoy1987 Member Posts: 1,722

    Originally posted by Xianthos

     

    As i said you bought this after you already knew about all these things and planned to do chargeback and that is fraud.



     

    How did I already know about all of this? 

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  • rlmccoy1987rlmccoy1987 Member Posts: 1,722

    Originally posted by mrw0lf

     

    He'd have to ask his parents what they put and I doubt they'd involve him in mummy and daddy talk just yet.

     

    Why when the credit card is in my name?  image

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  • lathaanlathaan Member UncommonPosts: 476

    would be nice to see you sued and having to repay ^^ as you are one dislikeable fellow ...

    learn to stand for your decisions mate, and grow up.

  • rlmccoy1987rlmccoy1987 Member Posts: 1,722

    Originally posted by lathaan

    would be nice to see you sued and having to repay ^^ as you are one dislikeable fellow ...

    learn to stand for your decisions mate, and grow up.

     

    Not going to accept a game that is broken and incomplete. 

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  • rlmccoy1987rlmccoy1987 Member Posts: 1,722

    Originally posted by Xianthos

     

    Dont start to play innocent, as all who followed the MO subforum for a longer time know that you were here already a long time and pointed out the bugs and flaws the game had and still has, which in fact is ok. You just need to follow your post history to get the impression of your knowledge about MO.

     

    I don't remember.  That is really spotty and in a haze.

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  • PlutonicwoesPlutonicwoes Member UncommonPosts: 343

    Originally posted by rlmccoy1987

    Originally posted by lathaan

    would be nice to see you sued and having to repay ^^ as you are one dislikeable fellow ...

    learn to stand for your decisions mate, and grow up.

     

    Not going to accept a game that is broken and incomplete. 

    Yet you seem to chase them, Mortal, Xyson, what's next? Do you just set sights on whatever looks like it will release the worst?

  • XianthosXianthos Member Posts: 723

    Originally posted by rlmccoy1987

    Originally posted by Xianthos


     

    Dont start to play innocent, as all who followed the MO subforum for a longer time know that you were here already a long time and pointed out the bugs and flaws the game had and still has, which in fact is ok. You just need to follow your post history to get the impression of your knowledge about MO.

     

    I don't remember.  That is really spotty and in a haze.

     

    Thank you for proving my statment through this answer :)

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  • rlmccoy1987rlmccoy1987 Member Posts: 1,722

    Originally posted by Plutonicwoes

    Originally posted by rlmccoy1987


    Originally posted by lathaan

    would be nice to see you sued and having to repay ^^ as you are one dislikeable fellow ...

    learn to stand for your decisions mate, and grow up.

     

    Not going to accept a game that is broken and incomplete. 

    Yet you seem to chase them, Mortal, Xyson, what's next? Do you just set sights on whatever looks like it will release the worst?

     

    Don't worry, if Xsyon doesn't work out.  I am done with indie developers.  Too many bad ones from Darkfall to MO.  I am going to stick with companies that know what they are doing, even if they are themepark games.  At least they work.  I am not going to blindly defend a indie developer hoping they get good eventually.  image

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  • devout101devout101 Member Posts: 67

    Mccoy you are wasting your time. The market is starved for a real, working, sandbox game. I've been in the game since block A, and Mccoy has a point here which you all fail to understand. SV missed MULTIPLE launch dates, while selling preorders to the general public promising features that are broken beyond belief, I've seen it myself. This is bait and switch, for one. Two, when did SV EVER reach out to the public to compensate for all of the downtime? A few days of extension? Really?

    People also seem to forget how unprofessional this company's actions have been during the last part of development, and that's all I'm going to say about that.

    Mccoy, just give it up man and move on. I don't wish this game doom, in fact I hope the game prospers, but you are not going to prove anything to this group. Some people must learn the hard way. 

    Will be updated later.

  • rlmccoy1987rlmccoy1987 Member Posts: 1,722

    Originally posted by Xianthos

    Originally posted by rlmccoy1987


    Originally posted by Xianthos


     

    Dont start to play innocent, as all who followed the MO subforum for a longer time know that you were here already a long time and pointed out the bugs and flaws the game had and still has, which in fact is ok. You just need to follow your post history to get the impression of your knowledge about MO.

     

    I don't remember.  That is really spotty and in a haze.

     

    Thank you for proving my statment through this answer :)

     

    Your welcome I guess image

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  • DLangleyDLangley Member Posts: 1,407

    Disagreeing with someone is no reason to personally attack them. Present your opinions in a way that do not offend another user. Please remember our Rules of Conduct (in my signature), when posting.

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