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Lol its GW2 who cares. So man rants trolls etc. This is a game not real life hold your own ceremony and while your doing that im gonan find a way to flag you for pvp and wipe the wedding party for wasting time doing bs you should do in rl when you should be in the arena fighting.
Normally GW2 threads don't go over 4 pages but this got to 9?
Yeah and as for my response, No Marriage. No Gay Marriage.
And no, I repeat, NO friends-with-benefits relationship between rangers and pets.
Srsly...
I agree with you on the marriage but come on the pet is just sitting right there not like any1s gonna know. Look at it like this its just some literal bonding between master and pet its natural.
Normally GW2 threads don't go over 4 pages but this got to 9?
Yeah and as for my response, No Marriage. No Gay Marriage.
And no, I repeat, NO friends-with-benefits relationship between rangers and pets.
Srsly...
I agree with you on the marriage but come on the pet is just sitting right there not like any1s gonna know. Look at it like this its just some literal bonding between master and pet its natural.
Yo... All I'm saying is that I don't want to be exploring some forest and then find some random ranger going at it with his/her bear while a wolf is there leg humping him/her.
It will ruin my explorer/hero moment and in general it'll just creep me out...
I mean as for bonding with the pet... Give the lil guy a treat and that's it.
Oh Crap, I can't get the image out of my head now O_O
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I get sick of all this gay propaganda. OK, you have the right to sleep with whomever you want. Just stop throwing it in other people faces. It's not your sexual habbits that makes people annoyed, it's this aggressiveness.
I started from not giving a crap, to pretty much homophobic!
Hell no, I don't want to see a freaking rainbow flag in a game.
But gay mariage to me is a form of freedom, since you don't hurt anyone by just stating that you are gay, it should be allowed everywhere on the real world by a declaration of the UN and human rights organisations..
Game makers should encourage this, so i hope that we will see gay mariages in GW2, tough i personally don't see any reason for me to ever make use of this feauture.
((Tough i happen to play female characters from time to time, and now i think about it i could envision me roleplaying playing a lesbian male hating rogue, which could be triggered to mary another female character))
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Of all the pointless threads on this site this must top them all.
/facepalm
Jeez man if you're gay have fun with it just stop bothering people about it. No one really cares, you know? Jeez...
Wtf if I'm jewish should I pester Anet to give us Hanukah or if I'm rasta should i petition for ganja in game or scream bloody discrimination?
US made games usually have 4th of july celebrations like the whole world is a subsidiary of American Empire and we should all bow to it. What of it then? What about christmass? Should I kick people in the shins and write petitions to devs because I happen to be atheist or, dunno Jehova's witness? Just stop the foolishness and mellow out.
Christ, If we went around catering to every minority (or majority) culture this game might get in contact with you'd just get a mess. And what about world cohesion and lore? Sorry but political corectness can just go only too far before it becomes just another form of censorship, like in the old soviet union where you basically had to have some kind of glowing reference to communism in any work you made. Today you can't make a Hollywood film taking place in ancient japan, say, without having a black, a gay, and an "emancipated" female in the cast, no matter how ludicruous and ultimately self-defeating for the purposes of toleration it turns out. Lol witness an artifically darkened guy on the new dollar bill, as one of the members of the founding fathers. What this crap does is that instead of warning against discrimination it is white-washing history telling the new generations that these horrors never happened... No difference from soviet-style censorship, if you ask me, none whatsoever.
They can have their gay marriage,just have your own channel so we don't have to read about it in GC. Why dose the OP need to make an issues out of it, have your gay marriage in game and no one will even know about it or do you want to parade yourselves through the main city hubs.
If that's the case go and find a quiet glade where you wont be disturbed.
The OP say GW2 will probably support marriage..hello! any mmorpg let's you get married it's not a game feature it's a choice you can make in game with you partner. GW2 won't have special systems to support marriages it's really is up to you if you choose to do that.
If you are expecting people to line the streets cheering, well it's not going to happen.
I get sick of all this gay propaganda. OK, you have the right to sleep with whomever you want. Just stop throwing it in other people faces. It's not your sexual habbits that makes people annoyed, it's this aggressiveness.
I started from not giving a crap, to pretty much homophobic!
Hell no, I don't want to see a freaking rainbow flag in a game.
You might want to turn on a television. Or open a magazine. Or drive down a road that has billboards. See how long you can do that before you are confronted by some form of heterosexuality.
But it's not just there. It's everywhere. Should a gay person therefore complain that heterosexuality is "in their face," as you put it?
Was Rosa Parks "aggressive" when she wanted to ride on a bus in the same way that others do?
You seem to think that you can be "ok" with another group of people, so long as they don't have the same rights that you have or seek to exercise those rights. That's not how it works.
I have represented quite a few people who are gay. It's amazing to me this attitude of "ok fine be gay but be gay really quietly where no one will ever know." Would you be willing to live that way? Who else should be relegated to this lower status? How about a religious group? Yes you can be Catholic just don't talk about it or make any cathedrals?
A person has rights in a free society, or they don't. You can't tell people you are "ok" with them provided they go and stay out of your sight.
If gay players want to marry in a game, how will that harm you other than your discriminatory desire not to be reminded that they exist? And how exactly are they supposed to exist in a democratic society without somehow anyone finding out?
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Why dont we roleplay this part? ya know the "RPG" of the mmo.
Woulnd´t it be very "true sandox"ishy of it? =p
also... the char are beast! so marriage between then and/or with other races would be bestiality?
and since Sylavari are plants like creatures...
well thats a more insteresting discussion =p
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If gay players want to marry in a game, how will that harm you other than your discriminatory desire not to be reminded that they exist?
Typical paranoid overreaction. Exactly what most posters here are talking about and are so annoyed with.
There is NO marriage in the game, neither hetero or gay, as far as we know.
If they decide to put marriage in the game than I'm cool with there being gay marriage, and I believe I share this view with most posters here.
However, if they put marriage in the game just so that gays can flaunt it then it is 1) pathetic for the gays because if they want to be same as everyone else then they're most definitely not acting like it with pushing their agenda aggressively/defensively and thus showing the underlying weakness and insecurity and b) discriminatory towards other "minorities" because why then can't I have my ganja, hannukah or ceremonial 3-foot penis cone I inherited from my grandpa?
And what's wrong with pure n simple RP-ing whatever you want? I'm not offended by gays just as I'm not offended by most other cultures. You know toleration goes both ways. I tolerate your difference from me on an assumption that you tolerate my wish to not get bothered. IMO there is no real difference between a crucifix on a school-room wall and a gay parade, if you see what I mean. I've got many gay and christian friends and the reasons why we are friends is because they don't push their cultural-ego trips on me and I don't push mine on them. That's true tolerance.
Some of the reactions in this thread are laughable, honestly one mention of the word gay and people think it's being slapped in their face. Look at any of the ads on this site and how many feature scantily clad female toons that are obviously aimed at the young male demographic, now tell me heterosexuality isn't being slapped in your face ? Hypocritical.
If marriage is in GW2 (which I highly doubt) then yes same sex marriages shouldn't be excluded.
I get sick of all this gay propaganda. OK, you have the right to sleep with whomever you want. Just stop throwing it in other people faces. It's not your sexual habbits that makes people annoyed, it's this aggressiveness.
I started from not giving a crap, to pretty much homophobic!
Hell no, I don't want to see a freaking rainbow flag in a game.
You might want to turn on a television. Or open a magazine. Or drive down a road that has billboards. See how long you can do that before you are confronted by some form of heterosexuality.
But it's not just there. It's everywhere. Should a gay person therefore complain that heterosexuality is "in their face," as you put it?
Was Rosa Parks "aggressive" when she wanted to ride on a bus in the same way that others do?
You seem to think that you can be "ok" with another group of people, so long as they don't have the same rights that you have or seek to exercise those rights. That's not how it works.
I have represented quite a few people who are gay. It's amazing to me this attitude of "ok fine be gay but be gay really quietly where no one will ever know." Would you be willing to live that way? Who else should be relegated to this lower status? How about a religious group? Yes you can be Catholic just don't talk about it or make any cathedrals?
A person has rights in a free society, or they don't. You can't tell people you are "ok" with them provided they go and stay out of your sight.
If gay players want to marry in a game, how will that harm you other than your discriminatory desire not to be reminded that they exist? And how exactly are they supposed to exist in a democratic society without somehow anyone finding out?
they exist? Somebody revive neo-neo nazism. See what i did there?
I think your blowing this out of proportion. How many threads on these forums do you see. Hey will i be able to marry my sexy man/woman. Will I be able to hit n run impregnate women online and then force my wife/man to work in the kitchen.
No?
So why the **** do these gay topics keep coming up. Nobody gives a shit in real life it's there we're slowly accepting it even if it's wierd. But these are online gaming boards where it simply has no place
Since GW2 will probably support marriage and player housing, I was wondering if there will be gay marriage. I think it's only fair and the players deserve equal rights just like in real life.
Is it really important that a game supports things like marriage? Even if not, it's not that it would prohibit people from meeting online with their partner and friends and perform a "marriage ceremony". There are lots of private and public places in MMOs so that shouldn't be an issue. You can make screenshots and stuff and what not. Have a good time with your friends and partner. Depending on the crafting system of the game, it could be possible to create wedding gifts by in-game means.
Or is it more important for you to have some in-game advantages or bonuses from it?
Originally posted by SonikFlash Originally posted by Amathe
Originally posted by WraithHunter
I get sick of all this gay propaganda. OK, you have the right to sleep with whomever you want. Just stop throwing it in other people faces. It's not your sexual habbits that makes people annoyed, it's this aggressiveness. I started from not giving a crap, to pretty much homophobic! Hell no, I don't want to see a freaking rainbow flag in a game.
You might want to turn on a television. Or open a magazine. Or drive down a road that has billboards. See how long you can do that before you are confronted by some form of heterosexuality. But it's not just there. It's everywhere. Should a gay person therefore complain that heterosexuality is "in their face," as you put it? Was Rosa Parks "aggressive" when she wanted to ride on a bus in the same way that others do? You seem to think that you can be "ok" with another group of people, so long as they don't have the same rights that you have or seek to exercise those rights. That's not how it works. I have represented quite a few people who are gay. It's amazing to me this attitude of "ok fine be gay but be gay really quietly where no one will ever know." Would you be willing to live that way? Who else should be relegated to this lower status? How about a religious group? Yes you can be Catholic just don't talk about it or make any cathedrals? A person has rights in a free society, or they don't. You can't tell people you are "ok" with them provided they go and stay out of your sight. If gay players want to marry in a game, how will that harm you other than your discriminatory desire not to be reminded that they exist? And how exactly are they supposed to exist in a democratic society without somehow anyone finding out? they exist? Somebody revive neo-neo nazism. See what i did there? I think your blowing this out of proportion. How many threads on these forums do you see. Hey will i be able to marry my sexy man/woman. Will I be able to hit n run impregnate women online and then force my wife/man to work in the kitchen. No? So why the **** do these gay topics keep coming up. Nobody gives a shit in real life it's there we're slowly accepting it even if it's wierd. But these are online gaming boards where it simply has no place because gays post on these gaming boards.... duh!
To stop these types of useless post's all they need to do is cut out the marriage part from the game..Or if they really want to get married have that as a high price item mall special only...I mean after all its only there ""fantasy"" to get married anyway since a lot of states dont allow it in real life for gay marriage..Also the game should not advertise it to the whole server either...It has to be a friend quiet wedding..The rest of us dont need to know...
Since GW2 will probably support marriage and player housing, I was wondering if there will be gay marriage. I think it's only fair and the players deserve equal rights just like in real life.
Is it really important that a game supports things like marriage? Even if not, it's not that it would prohibit people from meeting online with their partner and friends and perform a "marriage ceremony". There are lots of private and public places in MMOs so that shouldn't be an issue. You can make screenshots and stuff and what not. Have a good time with your friends and partner. Depending on the crafting system of the game, it could be possible to create wedding gifts by in-game means.
Or is it more important for you to have some in-game advantages or bonuses from it?
^^ This. GW is **NOT** an open sandbox game and does not really try to promote a living, breathing world that players create around them. Instead, they have built a very nice living, breathing world for the players to enjoy and partake within a scripted story that the developers created.
So, that being said, how would marraige really fit it within GW's story? Housing performs a usable function. Marraige, straight or not doesn't. Nor does it fit into the storyline of the game.
However, that should never stop players from role playing out their own storylines. Players of WoW have been getting married in game for years. There is no official support or mechanics to do so and players still manage to host estravegant weddings every day.
If you are looking for a title above your head when a player views you ... most people do not want to see that. Once again... straight or not.
I think marriage in games are kinda silly and stupid. Real life marriages is also stupid.
I mean why do you need a ceremony and all that crap. If you love someone that's all you need, you don't need something to tell you that you're in love.
Anyways i support gay marriage completely, i mean if you hate gays you most likely have issues with yourself being unsure of your sexuality or something like that.
However, if they put marriage in the game just so that gays can flaunt it ....
Does anyone actually think that?
If they put marriage in the game would it be so straight people can "flaunt it?'
Why would someone getting married, gay or straight, be a "flaunting?" Flaunting what exactly?
Why would not wanting to be discriminated against be an "agenda" (in the pejorative way you put it) or an "insecurity?"
You say you are not "offended" by other people, which is a curious way of putting it - that you are not offended by anyone who is not just like you. So long as whoever the group is you say you are not "offended" by doesn't do anything in our society that gives notice of who they are or what they believe.
Having rights in a free society doesn't mean that a majority publically enjoys whatever practices they prefer, and the minorities can go quietly have rights behind the doors of their own home. It means everyone has rights and can publically enjoy them.
I say to anyone who thinks that they are ok with gay people, but only so long as gay people never say or do anything to make known that they are gay or want to have the same rights as others, just go ahead and admit you are a bigot instead of promoting this fiction that your views are the product of gay aggression. Take responsibility for your views and stop pretending that someone else caused you to be prejudiced.
Ask someone in the KKK what they have against African-Americans, and they are not going to say "It's because I am an ignorant asshat." No, they are going to tell you all sorts of reasons why in their simple-minded view African-Americans have somehow wronged them by asserting their rights. It's not that they, the prejudiced, are filled with stupidity and hate. It's the fault of the people that they hate. Sound familiar?
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I think marriage in games are kinda silly and stupid. Real life marriages is also stupid.
I mean why do you need a ceremony and all that crap. If you love someone that's all you need, you don't need something to tell you that you're in love.
Anyways i support gay marriage completely, i mean if you hate gays you most likely have issues with yourself being unsure of your sexuality or something like that.
I too support gay marraige. But, I am tired of seeing the argument of "if you hate gays.. your obviously gay" or something to that effect. Btw, Chimps, that isn't really in direct reference to you.
People who are very religious or ritualistic (tradition and ceremonies) feel threatened when their core beliefs are questions, tested or judged. Instead of accepting that not everyone in the world agrees with their own view point.. they tend to lash out. Very simular to an animal when backed into a corner.
Personally, I share a simular belief to marriage. I got married 10 years ago. No, I am not a hypocrit. After experiencing it first hand, I realized how much of a sham it is. Further promoted by peoples beliefs of how a marriage should be. Usually meaning ... $$$$$$$.
Anyway, the reason why I support gay marraige is not because of gay rights. Gay rights, which I do support, is a double edged sword to me. I don't go around stating that I like women. I think some people would find that awkward with a middle aged man walking down the street shouting that I like women. On the flip side, I don't think ... ANYONE... should feel awkward if a gay couple introduces someone as their boyfriend/girlfriend/husband or wife.
The reason why I support gay marraige is because I would love to see the belief that religion somehow has anything to do with it - goes away. Marraige predates today's religious perceptions and was usually limited to people of an upper caste in whatever society. When rulers started to use religious ceremonies to prove they were ordained by their god is when the two began to become attached at the hip.
I think marriage in games are kinda silly and stupid. Real life marriages is also stupid.
I mean why do you need a ceremony and all that crap. If you love someone that's all you need, you don't need something to tell you that you're in love.
Anyways i support gay marriage completely, i mean if you hate gays you most likely have issues with yourself being unsure of your sexuality or something like that.
Whats next after the Gays? We will see these perverts screaming equal rights and want to walk down the isle with there pet lover Sheep, Baa, Baa to get married next..How about this..Maybe the gays want there own land next..I be all for it..They can have Hawaii a one way plane ticket there..They can do as they want..I know after awhile they will die out since there be no reproduction..
I think marriage in games are kinda silly and stupid. Real life marriages is also stupid.
I mean why do you need a ceremony and all that crap. If you love someone that's all you need, you don't need something to tell you that you're in love.
Anyways i support gay marriage completely, i mean if you hate gays you most likely have issues with yourself being unsure of your sexuality or something like that.
Im gonna a have a lil fun with your comment.
If you hate gays then you most likely must be unsure of your sexuality
If you are unsure of your sexuality then you must be gay or bi (at heart)
If you are gay or bi (at heart) then you are atleast half gay and thus totally gay
Please re read your first and second sentence where you admonish chimps and realize you basically said that same things about religuos folks without the long inferences but it ends up this
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Mmmmmm......., cute, fluffy.....soft...snuggly...fox.....
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Lol its GW2 who cares. So man rants trolls etc. This is a game not real life hold your own ceremony and while your doing that im gonan find a way to flag you for pvp and wipe the wedding party for wasting time doing bs you should do in rl when you should be in the arena fighting.
GIFSoup
Imo this is an amazing thread...
Normally GW2 threads don't go over 4 pages but this got to 9?
Yeah and as for my response, No Marriage. No Gay Marriage.
And no, I repeat, NO friends-with-benefits relationship between rangers and pets.
Srsly...
"Some people feel the rain. Others just get wet." -Bob Marley
I'm probably one of those people who just get wet.
I agree with you on the marriage but come on the pet is just sitting right there not like any1s gonna know. Look at it like this its just some literal bonding between master and pet its natural.
GIFSoup
Yo... All I'm saying is that I don't want to be exploring some forest and then find some random ranger going at it with his/her bear while a wolf is there leg humping him/her.
It will ruin my explorer/hero moment and in general it'll just creep me out...
I mean as for bonding with the pet... Give the lil guy a treat and that's it.
Oh Crap, I can't get the image out of my head now O_O
"Some people feel the rain. Others just get wet." -Bob Marley
I'm probably one of those people who just get wet.
I get sick of all this gay propaganda. OK, you have the right to sleep with whomever you want. Just stop throwing it in other people faces. It's not your sexual habbits that makes people annoyed, it's this aggressiveness.
I started from not giving a crap, to pretty much homophobic!
Hell no, I don't want to see a freaking rainbow flag in a game.
I don't want to imagine what their dynamic events will be. You will NEVER know what to expect
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PEPSI!!!!!
Get out of your box already...
I am not gay...
But gay mariage to me is a form of freedom, since you don't hurt anyone by just stating that you are gay, it should be allowed everywhere on the real world by a declaration of the UN and human rights organisations..
Game makers should encourage this, so i hope that we will see gay mariages in GW2, tough i personally don't see any reason for me to ever make use of this feauture.
((Tough i happen to play female characters from time to time, and now i think about it i could envision me roleplaying playing a lesbian male hating rogue, which could be triggered to mary another female character))
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Of all the pointless threads on this site this must top them all.
/facepalm
Jeez man if you're gay have fun with it just stop bothering people about it. No one really cares, you know? Jeez...
Wtf if I'm jewish should I pester Anet to give us Hanukah or if I'm rasta should i petition for ganja in game or scream bloody discrimination?
US made games usually have 4th of july celebrations like the whole world is a subsidiary of American Empire and we should all bow to it. What of it then? What about christmass? Should I kick people in the shins and write petitions to devs because I happen to be atheist or, dunno Jehova's witness? Just stop the foolishness and mellow out.
Christ, If we went around catering to every minority (or majority) culture this game might get in contact with you'd just get a mess. And what about world cohesion and lore? Sorry but political corectness can just go only too far before it becomes just another form of censorship, like in the old soviet union where you basically had to have some kind of glowing reference to communism in any work you made. Today you can't make a Hollywood film taking place in ancient japan, say, without having a black, a gay, and an "emancipated" female in the cast, no matter how ludicruous and ultimately self-defeating for the purposes of toleration it turns out. Lol witness an artifically darkened guy on the new dollar bill, as one of the members of the founding fathers. What this crap does is that instead of warning against discrimination it is white-washing history telling the new generations that these horrors never happened... No difference from soviet-style censorship, if you ask me, none whatsoever.
This is sooo.... meh, just meh.
They can have their gay marriage,just have your own channel so we don't have to read about it in GC. Why dose the OP need to make an issues out of it, have your gay marriage in game and no one will even know about it or do you want to parade yourselves through the main city hubs.
If that's the case go and find a quiet glade where you wont be disturbed.
The OP say GW2 will probably support marriage..hello! any mmorpg let's you get married it's not a game feature it's a choice you can make in game with you partner. GW2 won't have special systems to support marriages it's really is up to you if you choose to do that.
If you are expecting people to line the streets cheering, well it's not going to happen.
You might want to turn on a television. Or open a magazine. Or drive down a road that has billboards. See how long you can do that before you are confronted by some form of heterosexuality.
But it's not just there. It's everywhere. Should a gay person therefore complain that heterosexuality is "in their face," as you put it?
Was Rosa Parks "aggressive" when she wanted to ride on a bus in the same way that others do?
You seem to think that you can be "ok" with another group of people, so long as they don't have the same rights that you have or seek to exercise those rights. That's not how it works.
I have represented quite a few people who are gay. It's amazing to me this attitude of "ok fine be gay but be gay really quietly where no one will ever know." Would you be willing to live that way? Who else should be relegated to this lower status? How about a religious group? Yes you can be Catholic just don't talk about it or make any cathedrals?
A person has rights in a free society, or they don't. You can't tell people you are "ok" with them provided they go and stay out of your sight.
If gay players want to marry in a game, how will that harm you other than your discriminatory desire not to be reminded that they exist? And how exactly are they supposed to exist in a democratic society without somehow anyone finding out?
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Why dont we roleplay this part? ya know the "RPG" of the mmo.
Woulnd´t it be very "true sandox"ishy of it? =p
also... the char are beast! so marriage between then and/or with other races would be bestiality?
and since Sylavari are plants like creatures...
well thats a more insteresting discussion =p
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Dark Souls 2.
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Typical paranoid overreaction. Exactly what most posters here are talking about and are so annoyed with.
There is NO marriage in the game, neither hetero or gay, as far as we know.
If they decide to put marriage in the game than I'm cool with there being gay marriage, and I believe I share this view with most posters here.
However, if they put marriage in the game just so that gays can flaunt it then it is 1) pathetic for the gays because if they want to be same as everyone else then they're most definitely not acting like it with pushing their agenda aggressively/defensively and thus showing the underlying weakness and insecurity and b) discriminatory towards other "minorities" because why then can't I have my ganja, hannukah or ceremonial 3-foot penis cone I inherited from my grandpa?
And what's wrong with pure n simple RP-ing whatever you want? I'm not offended by gays just as I'm not offended by most other cultures. You know toleration goes both ways. I tolerate your difference from me on an assumption that you tolerate my wish to not get bothered. IMO there is no real difference between a crucifix on a school-room wall and a gay parade, if you see what I mean. I've got many gay and christian friends and the reasons why we are friends is because they don't push their cultural-ego trips on me and I don't push mine on them. That's true tolerance.
Some of the reactions in this thread are laughable, honestly one mention of the word gay and people think it's being slapped in their face. Look at any of the ads on this site and how many feature scantily clad female toons that are obviously aimed at the young male demographic, now tell me heterosexuality isn't being slapped in your face ? Hypocritical.
If marriage is in GW2 (which I highly doubt) then yes same sex marriages shouldn't be excluded.
they exist? Somebody revive neo-neo nazism. See what i did there?
I think your blowing this out of proportion. How many threads on these forums do you see. Hey will i be able to marry my sexy man/woman. Will I be able to hit n run impregnate women online and then force my wife/man to work in the kitchen.
No?
So why the **** do these gay topics keep coming up. Nobody gives a shit in real life it's there we're slowly accepting it even if it's wierd. But these are online gaming boards where it simply has no place
Is it really important that a game supports things like marriage? Even if not, it's not that it would prohibit people from meeting online with their partner and friends and perform a "marriage ceremony". There are lots of private and public places in MMOs so that shouldn't be an issue. You can make screenshots and stuff and what not. Have a good time with your friends and partner. Depending on the crafting system of the game, it could be possible to create wedding gifts by in-game means.
Or is it more important for you to have some in-game advantages or bonuses from it?
You might want to turn on a television. Or open a magazine. Or drive down a road that has billboards. See how long you can do that before you are confronted by some form of heterosexuality.
But it's not just there. It's everywhere. Should a gay person therefore complain that heterosexuality is "in their face," as you put it?
Was Rosa Parks "aggressive" when she wanted to ride on a bus in the same way that others do?
You seem to think that you can be "ok" with another group of people, so long as they don't have the same rights that you have or seek to exercise those rights. That's not how it works.
I have represented quite a few people who are gay. It's amazing to me this attitude of "ok fine be gay but be gay really quietly where no one will ever know." Would you be willing to live that way? Who else should be relegated to this lower status? How about a religious group? Yes you can be Catholic just don't talk about it or make any cathedrals?
A person has rights in a free society, or they don't. You can't tell people you are "ok" with them provided they go and stay out of your sight.
If gay players want to marry in a game, how will that harm you other than your discriminatory desire not to be reminded that they exist? And how exactly are they supposed to exist in a democratic society without somehow anyone finding out?
they exist? Somebody revive neo-neo nazism. See what i did there?
I think your blowing this out of proportion. How many threads on these forums do you see. Hey will i be able to marry my sexy man/woman. Will I be able to hit n run impregnate women online and then force my wife/man to work in the kitchen.
No?
So why the **** do these gay topics keep coming up. Nobody gives a shit in real life it's there we're slowly accepting it even if it's wierd. But these are online gaming boards where it simply has no place
because gays post on these gaming boards.... duh!
To stop these types of useless post's all they need to do is cut out the marriage part from the game..Or if they really want to get married have that as a high price item mall special only...I mean after all its only there ""fantasy"" to get married anyway since a lot of states dont allow it in real life for gay marriage..Also the game should not advertise it to the whole server either...It has to be a friend quiet wedding..The rest of us dont need to know...
^^ This. GW is **NOT** an open sandbox game and does not really try to promote a living, breathing world that players create around them. Instead, they have built a very nice living, breathing world for the players to enjoy and partake within a scripted story that the developers created.
So, that being said, how would marraige really fit it within GW's story? Housing performs a usable function. Marraige, straight or not doesn't. Nor does it fit into the storyline of the game.
However, that should never stop players from role playing out their own storylines. Players of WoW have been getting married in game for years. There is no official support or mechanics to do so and players still manage to host estravegant weddings every day.
If you are looking for a title above your head when a player views you ... most people do not want to see that. Once again... straight or not.
I think marriage in games are kinda silly and stupid. Real life marriages is also stupid.
I mean why do you need a ceremony and all that crap. If you love someone that's all you need, you don't need something to tell you that you're in love.
Anyways i support gay marriage completely, i mean if you hate gays you most likely have issues with yourself being unsure of your sexuality or something like that.
Does anyone actually think that?
If they put marriage in the game would it be so straight people can "flaunt it?'
Why would someone getting married, gay or straight, be a "flaunting?" Flaunting what exactly?
Why would not wanting to be discriminated against be an "agenda" (in the pejorative way you put it) or an "insecurity?"
You say you are not "offended" by other people, which is a curious way of putting it - that you are not offended by anyone who is not just like you. So long as whoever the group is you say you are not "offended" by doesn't do anything in our society that gives notice of who they are or what they believe.
Having rights in a free society doesn't mean that a majority publically enjoys whatever practices they prefer, and the minorities can go quietly have rights behind the doors of their own home. It means everyone has rights and can publically enjoy them.
I say to anyone who thinks that they are ok with gay people, but only so long as gay people never say or do anything to make known that they are gay or want to have the same rights as others, just go ahead and admit you are a bigot instead of promoting this fiction that your views are the product of gay aggression. Take responsibility for your views and stop pretending that someone else caused you to be prejudiced.
Ask someone in the KKK what they have against African-Americans, and they are not going to say "It's because I am an ignorant asshat." No, they are going to tell you all sorts of reasons why in their simple-minded view African-Americans have somehow wronged them by asserting their rights. It's not that they, the prejudiced, are filled with stupidity and hate. It's the fault of the people that they hate. Sound familiar?
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I too support gay marraige. But, I am tired of seeing the argument of "if you hate gays.. your obviously gay" or something to that effect. Btw, Chimps, that isn't really in direct reference to you.
People who are very religious or ritualistic (tradition and ceremonies) feel threatened when their core beliefs are questions, tested or judged. Instead of accepting that not everyone in the world agrees with their own view point.. they tend to lash out. Very simular to an animal when backed into a corner.
Personally, I share a simular belief to marriage. I got married 10 years ago. No, I am not a hypocrit. After experiencing it first hand, I realized how much of a sham it is. Further promoted by peoples beliefs of how a marriage should be. Usually meaning ... $$$$$$$.
Anyway, the reason why I support gay marraige is not because of gay rights. Gay rights, which I do support, is a double edged sword to me. I don't go around stating that I like women. I think some people would find that awkward with a middle aged man walking down the street shouting that I like women. On the flip side, I don't think ... ANYONE... should feel awkward if a gay couple introduces someone as their boyfriend/girlfriend/husband or wife.
The reason why I support gay marraige is because I would love to see the belief that religion somehow has anything to do with it - goes away. Marraige predates today's religious perceptions and was usually limited to people of an upper caste in whatever society. When rulers started to use religious ceremonies to prove they were ordained by their god is when the two began to become attached at the hip.
Whats next after the Gays? We will see these perverts screaming equal rights and want to walk down the isle with there pet lover Sheep, Baa, Baa to get married next..How about this..Maybe the gays want there own land next..I be all for it..They can have Hawaii a one way plane ticket there..They can do as they want..I know after awhile they will die out since there be no reproduction..
Im gonna a have a lil fun with your comment.
If you hate gays then you most likely must be unsure of your sexuality
If you are unsure of your sexuality then you must be gay or bi (at heart)
If you are gay or bi (at heart) then you are atleast half gay and thus totally gay
thus if your gay you most likely hate gays.
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Please re read your first and second sentence where you admonish chimps and realize you basically said that same things about religuos folks without the long inferences but it ends up this
Thus if your very religous you are a terrorist.
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