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MASSIVELY REVIEWS MORTAL ONLINE: "STAY AWAY. STAY FAR AWAY."
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Yeah you know, some of us actually played the thing, and know that it's a pretty accurate review.
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This this this this this this THIS.
Yea, meanwhile some mod is not letting us make comments about the population of the game.
Watch, this will be deleted shortly.
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Now, please get back on topic.
Does that mean that you do not have anything to support your claim highlighted above? I am simply saying that if you are going to claim that a reviewer is wrong because her "PvP experiance is limited to trying to kill 1 naked harvestor" it would make sense to have something to support that claim...
As stated by many others.. Seraphina has always been viewed as a fair and balanced reviewer. If you are going to make allegations against her they really need to be supported by facts...
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"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
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Good job. Lock and warning incoming.
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I can say that. Just please stay on the topic of the thread and remember the Rules of Conduct and we are all gravy!
Thanks.
I quote straight from the article, so this is directly on topic:
Even at the game's peak hours, it's pretty hard to find other players
wow, thats not good news for mo.
IF THE ONLY DEFENCE FOR CRITICISM OF A GAME IS CALLING SOMEONE A TROLL OR HATER, THAT SAYS A LOT ABOUT THE QUALITY OF THE GAME
Of course its hard to find people online. The only ones still online are the truly die-hard fanbois. I love the game and what it can be, but I don't play it as it is now, although I do have a subscription. I'm playing DF with some friends at the moment and loving it but I do intend to play Mortal now that they got this patch from Epic Games which will allow them to use Flash UIs and fix the mob navigation.
My "claim" is simply based on the article. The author never mentioned any other specific pvp instance. In a game largely based around PVP you would assume that she would have wrote about more of her adventures in combat. Instead she chose to post pics of minor bugs and wine about little game flaws.
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Never trust a screenshot or a youtube video without a version stamp!
I suppose we have differing opinions on minor bugs and little game flaws. I think her picture showing here PvP opponent plug-pulling/screen dragging and floating away into the air was very descriptive of combat as it exists today. Here is a current forum thread on the MO Forums where subscribers are talking about the very issue she documented: http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/52823-pvp-moment-far-frustrating.html
Again.. I suppose it's a matter of personal taste. I think her description of the game was very much in line with what most other folks have said but of course you are free to have your own views.
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
Proudly wearing the Harbinger badge since Dec 23, 2017.
Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018
"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018
This is almost exactly what I wrote when I let my initial month expire and my post was deleted from the MO forums for suggesting the game was in Alpha/Beta state. What those fans of MO who remain should understand is that type of censorship and deliberate misleading of those conisdering purchasing the game is what makes many so concerned.
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Most accurate review i ever read...sums it all up..so when the suposed trolls talk crap about this game they are in fact not trolling..they are just stating the truth...
The review is a mixture of
1) Totally valid issues: the complaints about graphics and the lack of descriptions in books. MO is not a newbie friendly experience
2) presumably valid issues that I've just never experienced: I've installed MO twice without problem. Installing the entire game does take a while, but individual patches go pretty quickly. I've had a problem the the program getting corrupted exactly one time and that was after changing out my mother board and replacing the graphics card. I also ended up needing to reinstall the driver for the ethernet connection at the same time, so MO gets a pass on that one.
3) Issues that are in the process of being addressed and therefor fall under the ' But, in all good conscience, I can't talk about a game's "proposed and upcoming features."'--- Ai pathing and Navmesh, the appearance of trees etc.
4) a bit of unwarranted venom --"-the world designers are lazy, lazy people" "That's outright robbery, "
5) a couple unfair comparisons-- of course Darkfall and EVE are more polished at this point in their life and more specifically ....
Star Vault feels it's acceptable to charge $40.50 (31.95 in Euros) they also charge $14.50 (11.40 in Euros) per month to keep playing That's outright robbery, especially when you pair it against Darkfall, which offers a more feature-complete experience for $30, or EVE Online, which offers an extremely feature-complete experience for $20 (or $5 if you can catch it on sale.)
which is also a matter of where the games are in their life cycle. Compare: http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=132003
The pre-order consists of the Darkfall client digital download along with a month of play starting on February 25th. The full cost for this is 42 Euro. This amount WILL NOT be charged during the pre-order. What will be charged is an initial 2.52 Euro non-refundable payment to activate the process. The remainder (39.48) of the pre-release price will be billed on release, February 25th. You’ll be free to cancel the purchase any time before the additional charge goes in on February the 25th.
Darkfall’s monthly subscription is set at 11.77 euro. A 3 month subscription with a 10% discount and a six month subscription will be offered with 15% discount on the monthly subscription rate.
There is 19% VAT added to both the initial payment of 2.52 Euro and to the remainder (39.48) for residents of the European Union. The same applies to all the subscription charges. People outside the EU will not be charged VAT.
6) Oh and a recognition that "some of the game's systems (combat and crafting) are extremely intelligent and deep" even if other systems interfered with her ability to enjoy those good portions.
This is correct as she is reviewing the released version of the game almost 3 months after launch. If reviews were made based on the future promises of game designers they would be called advertisements. I believe this is also what she meant by her quote "You're litterally paying to purchase the Alpha version of a game". When a game's "proposed and upcoming features" are more appealing than the game itself... that says a lot.
I still think her final words most perfectly encapsule the review "Stay Away. Stay Far Away."
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
Proudly wearing the Harbinger badge since Dec 23, 2017.
Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018
"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018
those things cannot change my final thought on the game at this point in time:
If the only thing you know about MO is seraphina's review, that's probably good advice "at this point in time:",
By which I mean, don't go in uninformed.
That is one argument that I will always have a problem with.
If a new gym just came out with a fraction of the equipment of the other gyms in the area, would you expect to pay the same or less per month?
If a new satellite or cable company came out with a fraction of the channels of the existing cable companies, would you expect to pay the same or less per month?
If a new car company came out and the cars did not have the features and amenities of existing manufacturers, would you expect to pay the same or less for their cars?
The root of it all is that MMO gamers consistently buy hope and are strangely upset when hope does not become reality, despite history proving that it rarely ever does.
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Its funny you can find similarities between a scammer like eddy boy who scammed eurogamer for money took a day of to get drunk with logs proof he was not more then 3 -4 hours in game with Seraphina Brennan.
I don't know anything about MO but i feel you do Miss/Ms Brennan not right.
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Exactly... before the review she was "fair and unbiased"..
..Now some few figure they better try and discredit her. Luckily the vast majority of folks know that she has more credibility than random internet guy #556224. Comments on her review are running near 95% positive.
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
Proudly wearing the Harbinger badge since Dec 23, 2017.
Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018
"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018
Here is a nice video for you claiming there are no bad game breaking bugs, this is how bad hit detection can be:
Review is similar, but that because the game is in such a bad state. Except for the "score" reviews have nothing in common, since the massively staff actually spend weeks in game, which is proved by several community members who played with her.
He volunteered because after six months they still have not mangaged to make a patcher and used torrents to download patches.
They probably review the F2P games more positive because they dont have bugs you stumble on every few minutes, neither do they have a wagon of unfinished features. F2P games may be lot less innovative and themepark, but atleast they are working as intended.
I have a question has there been a paid MMO that has been released in the last couple of years, that hasn't been trashed on these boards for being "unready at release"? Pretty much seems to be the standard for MMO releases. I for one am not surprise a new release is buggy at release lol. As for this specific game it doesn't appeal to me so I hope those that were waiting for it find it good enough to their liking, anyways good luck guys!
Pretty much every MMO releasing is unready to a degree. Sadly, MO takes the "unready" far beyond any other game, simple as.