"And I am telling you THIS is what makes them act allergic to it:"
I think there's more than one reason.
A lot of males would probably be ok with cutesy female faces and fetish outfits as long as there's at least one male face that doesn't look like a girl.
Then there's a caveat to the above where it's different if the females look a bit young (and some of that is just western eyes imo - a lot of oriental people look younger to me than they are).
Then thirdly there's the female players who don't want to look too cutesy or too young,
That is because of that whole pedo lolli fetish.. ( we already covered that pages back).
Basically men and women don;t want to play characters that are babies.
"And I am telling you THIS is what makes them act allergic to it:"
I think there's more than one reason.
A lot of males would probably be ok with cutesy female faces and fetish outfits as long as there's at least one male face that doesn't look like a girl.
Then there's a caveat to the above where it's different if the females look a bit young (and some of that is just western eyes imo - a lot of oriental people look younger to me than they are).
Then thirdly there's the female players who don't want to look too cutesy or too young,
That is because of that whole pedo lolli fetish.. ( we already covered that pages back).
Basically men and women don;t want to play characters that are babies.
>.> we coverd nothing....
:P...NO PEDO!
Do I need to repost everything I said about that? I know I covered it.
"Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game."-Guybrush Threepwood "I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me."-Hunter S. Thompson
"And I am telling you THIS is what makes them act allergic to it:"
I think there's more than one reason.
A lot of males would probably be ok with cutesy female faces and fetish outfits as long as there's at least one male face that doesn't look like a girl.
Then there's a caveat to the above where it's different if the females look a bit young (and some of that is just western eyes imo - a lot of oriental people look younger to me than they are).
Then thirdly there's the female players who don't want to look too cutesy or too young,
That is because of that whole pedo lolli fetish.. ( we already covered that pages back).
Basically men and women don;t want to play characters that are babies.
>.> we coverd nothing....
:P...NO PEDO!
Do I need to repost everything I said about that? I know I covered it.
No ... No need for that.
It’s just that I discussed that I like to play Little silly toons Like Hobbits and tarutaru...but there is nothing sexual behind it :O
But I think it may have been in another thread...devil seems to like to talk about pedos O_O
"And I am telling you THIS is what makes them act allergic to it:"
I think there's more than one reason.
A lot of males would probably be ok with cutesy female faces and fetish outfits as long as there's at least one male face that doesn't look like a girl.
Then there's a caveat to the above where it's different if the females look a bit young (and some of that is just western eyes imo - a lot of oriental people look younger to me than they are).
Then thirdly there's the female players who don't want to look too cutesy or too young,
That is because of that whole pedo lolli fetish.. ( we already covered that pages back).
Basically men and women don;t want to play characters that are babies.
>.> we coverd nothing....
:P...NO PEDO!
Do I need to repost everything I said about that? I know I covered it.
No ... No need for that.
It’s just that I discussed that I like to play Little silly toons Like Hobbits and tarutaru...but there is nothing sexual behind it :O
But I think it may have been in another thread...devil seems to like to talk about pedos O_O
I would not consider the desire to play small characters pedophillia, but I do feel that the Japanese culture does seem to have problems with the Lolita complex. That being said after looking at Final Fantasy IV a look see I might give it a try when it hits the PS3.
"Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game."-Guybrush Threepwood "I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me."-Hunter S. Thompson
"And I am telling you THIS is what makes them act allergic to it:"
I think there's more than one reason.
A lot of males would probably be ok with cutesy female faces and fetish outfits as long as there's at least one male face that doesn't look like a girl.
Then there's a caveat to the above where it's different if the females look a bit young (and some of that is just western eyes imo - a lot of oriental people look younger to me than they are).
Then thirdly there's the female players who don't want to look too cutesy or too young,
That is because of that whole pedo lolli fetish.. ( we already covered that pages back).
Basically men and women don;t want to play characters that are babies.
>.> we coverd nothing....
:P...NO PEDO!
Do I need to repost everything I said about that? I know I covered it.
No ... No need for that.
It’s just that I discussed that I like to play Little silly toons Like Hobbits and tarutaru...but there is nothing sexual behind it :O
But I think it may have been in another thread...devil seems to like to talk about pedos O_O
I would not consider the desire to play small characters pedophillia, but I do feel that the Japanese culture does seem to have problems with the Lolita complex. That being said after looking at Final Fantasy IV a look see I might give it a try when it hits the PS3.
I think it is just a clash of cultures, we are just seeing it through western eyes.
Though I do believe taking out your paedophilic fetish onto a fantasy scenario ((such as Lolita art...if you can call it art)) is far better than going after the real thing.
Oh and on a side note I would play FFV instead IV...IMO it is a far superior game
"And I am telling you THIS is what makes them act allergic to it:"
I think there's more than one reason.
A lot of males would probably be ok with cutesy female faces and fetish outfits as long as there's at least one male face that doesn't look like a girl.
Then there's a caveat to the above where it's different if the females look a bit young (and some of that is just western eyes imo - a lot of oriental people look younger to me than they are).
Then thirdly there's the female players who don't want to look too cutesy or too young,
That is because of that whole pedo lolli fetish.. ( we already covered that pages back).
Basically men and women don;t want to play characters that are babies.
>.> we coverd nothing....
:P...NO PEDO!
Do I need to repost everything I said about that? I know I covered it.
No ... No need for that.
It’s just that I discussed that I like to play Little silly toons Like Hobbits and tarutaru...but there is nothing sexual behind it :O
But I think it may have been in another thread...devil seems to like to talk about pedos O_O
I would not consider the desire to play small characters pedophillia, but I do feel that the Japanese culture does seem to have problems with the Lolita complex. That being said after looking at Final Fantasy IV a look see I might give it a try when it hits the PS3.
I think it is just a clash of cultures, we are just seeing it through western eyes.
Though I do believe taking out your paedophilic fetish onto a fantasy scenario ((such as Lolita art...if you can call it art)) is far better than going after the real thing.
Oh and on a side note I would play FFV instead IV...IMO it is a far superior game
I meant FF XIV. lol
"Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game."-Guybrush Threepwood "I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me."-Hunter S. Thompson
I plan to play MMOs for a long time. I am not going to play a game that I can't stand the artistic style or graphic choices. I am just not going to do it. It has nothing to do with anime or cartoony though as my preferences aren't that... narrow. Still, I am not going to blame some guy who doesn't want to play scrawny male character with feminine features and hair, nor am I going to blame some girl who doesn't want to run around in a maid's outfit. It's all about preferences. I have no idea why the OP is taking it so personally.
parrotpholk-Because we all know the miracle patch fairy shows up the night before release and sprinkles magic dust on the server to make it allllll better.
"And I am telling you THIS is what makes them act allergic to it:"
I think there's more than one reason.
A lot of males would probably be ok with cutesy female faces and fetish outfits as long as there's at least one male face that doesn't look like a girl.
Then there's a caveat to the above where it's different if the females look a bit young (and some of that is just western eyes imo - a lot of oriental people look younger to me than they are).
Then thirdly there's the female players who don't want to look too cutesy or too young,
That is because of that whole pedo lolli fetish.. ( we already covered that pages back).
Basically men and women don;t want to play characters that are babies.
>.> we coverd nothing....
:P...NO PEDO!
Do I need to repost everything I said about that? I know I covered it.
No ... No need for that.
It’s just that I discussed that I like to play Little silly toons Like Hobbits and tarutaru...but there is nothing sexual behind it :O
But I think it may have been in another thread...devil seems to like to talk about pedos O_O
Mhmm I am talking about it because I know you have a complex about that since Illius made that comment on that baby video you posted a while back.
Anime/Manga has so many sub-genres that it is almost impossible to like them all. Some are ment for very young kids while others are ment solely for adults. Some of them are even produced to a very small sub-genre. And what I ment by adults is not Hentai (the sexual subgenre).
Even when you are watching a series ment for adults does not mean that the quality of artwork or animation is that good. Also, how you define Art in layman's term varies greatly.
I do like some Anime, but it is a very narrow selection. A good movie or show comes along roughly about every 5 years. I would say that 95-98% of Anime or Manga is not for me. Here is a list of some Anime I do like (and in terms of art direction and animation quality they vary quite a bit). More often than not, it is the story that I find compelling :
Cowbow Bebob
Akira
Spirited Away
Berserk
Ergo Proxy
Serial Experiment Lain
Black Lagoon
Ghost in a Shell
Monster
Time of Eve
Samurai Shamploo
"The person who experiences greatness must have a feeling for the myth he is in."
Anime/Manga has so many sub-genres that it is almost impossible to like them all. Some are ment for very young kids while others are ment solely for adults. Some of them are even produced to a very small sub-genre. And what I ment by adults is not Hentai (the sexual subgenre).
Even when you are watching a series ment for adults does not mean that the quality of artwork or animation is that good. Also, how you define Art in layman's term varies greatly.
I do like some Anime, but it is a very narrow selection. A good movie or show comes along roughly about every 5 years. I would say that 95-98% of Anime or Manga is not for me. Here is a list of some Anime I do like (and in terms of art direction and animation quality they vary quite a bit). More often than not, it is the story that I find compelling :
Cowbow Bebob
Akira
Spirited Away
Berserk
Ergo Proxy
Serial Experiment Lain
Black Lagoon
Ghost in a Shell
Monster
Time of Eve
Samurai Shamploo
The same for me, but I don't agree with all your series (particularly Akira, yuck).
Anime is a treasure chest for us fantasy fans, otherwise we just have Legends of the seeker and few other western series (animated or not).
But just like western series are 90% of all anime total crap. And japs do have a weird fetish for schoolgirls in school uniforms or sailor suits but most anime isn't about that.
Saying that anime is about phedophilia is like saying all movies produced in California are porn movies.
"And I am telling you THIS is what makes them act allergic to it:"
I think there's more than one reason.
A lot of males would probably be ok with cutesy female faces and fetish outfits as long as there's at least one male face that doesn't look like a girl.
Then there's a caveat to the above where it's different if the females look a bit young (and some of that is just western eyes imo - a lot of oriental people look younger to me than they are).
Then thirdly there's the female players who don't want to look too cutesy or too young,
That is because of that whole pedo lolli fetish.. ( we already covered that pages back).
Basically men and women don;t want to play characters that are babies.
Yeah i mostly see where you're coming from. I'm just saying there's a certain amount of hypocrisy about this - at least in my case - in that i quite like the asian female armor design and don't mind female cutesy faces as long as their bodies look fully physically developed. I can understand why female players might dislike being online walking fetish outfit models for the male players but i'm a total hypocrite over it. So i'm cool with female players wanting to have older looking faces but i hope the asian games don't change the fetish armor.
But i think the allergy from players is more about emo than pedo. Although there is an element of the latter in anime, i haven't noticed it much in games. There are games like Mabinogi which are (i assume) aimed at youngsters where it makes sense for the characters to look like kids. Wizard101 is a western example of the same thing. I can't play either because the characters look like kids - but i think it's fine if the games are designed for kids.
In theory i wouldn't have a problem with a game aimed at least partially at adults having a small race that looks like cute human kids. In theory i only have a problem when that is *combined* with the fetish armor. In practise though i don't like it. I like it when the small race looks non-human or like squashed adults e.g hobbits and gnomes in EQ.
(Just realised the EQ small race faces actually looked older than the large races.)
"And I am telling you THIS is what makes them act allergic to it:"
I think there's more than one reason.
A lot of males would probably be ok with cutesy female faces and fetish outfits as long as there's at least one male face that doesn't look like a girl.
Then there's a caveat to the above where it's different if the females look a bit young (and some of that is just western eyes imo - a lot of oriental people look younger to me than they are).
Then thirdly there's the female players who don't want to look too cutesy or too young,
That is because of that whole pedo lolli fetish.. ( we already covered that pages back).
Basically men and women don;t want to play characters that are babies.
>.> we coverd nothing....
:P...NO PEDO!
Do I need to repost everything I said about that? I know I covered it.
No ... No need for that.
It’s just that I discussed that I like to play Little silly toons Like Hobbits and tarutaru...but there is nothing sexual behind it :O
But I think it may have been in another thread...devil seems to like to talk about pedos O_O
Mhmm I am talking about it because I know you have a complex about that since Illius made that comment on that baby video you posted a while back.
OMG that's it, we are all so insecure of Asia we take it out on anime art. Come on get serious, I for one like the art style, hang on maybe I am a traitor? :D
The eurasian style has been around for ages, as a concession for a more square jawed look you often get a semi humanoid race that is big and rugged, or in the case of Dwarves at least rugged. Fine if that's more you, I do not identity with my character's appearance that much. As a roleplayer I am more interested in whether this avatar can tell the story I want him too.
So there seems to be a large number of people that are so allergic to anime/manga style art that they won't even try a game that has that same art style. Some of these people won't even play a game that is too “cartoony” in its art style. If it isn't brownish-gray with big tuff manly men drawn like refrigerators with cantaloupes nailed on for heads, they won't play it.
What I find odd about this attitude is that it only goes one way. I've never heard anyone say that they would refuse to play a game because the only colors it features are dogshit brown and muzzle flash. I've never heard anyone say “I'm not going to play a game where the protagonists breasts are that small!!!” We all want to talk about how games have broken out of the “teenage boys in their basement” demographic, but the forums seem to be jam packed with people who are too macho insecure to be anything other than.
So just how much of this hatred toward charm and color in artwork is really just insecurity about how others will perceive your sexuality? You know what I'm talking about? How many of these comments are really about the need to be seen as straight and manly? Seriously.
Most of the games I grew up with had horrible graphics. I still played them, because they were good games. I can put up with sub-par artwork or art styles that I don't like if the game underneath is solid. So what gives with the cartoon haters? Why rob yourself if you aren't worried about how others look at you?
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Funny I have had a few guild members lost over time because they would not play a game that did not have cartoony asian style art. They ditched CryEngine 2 quality (not AION) for some crappy Asian Free to Play junk.
OMG that's it, we are all so insecure of Asia we take it out on anime art. Come on get serious, I for one like the art style, hang on maybe I am a traitor? :D
The eurasian style has been around for ages, as a concession for a more square jawed look you often get a semi humanoid race that is big and rugged, or in the case of Dwarves at least rugged. Fine if that's more you, I do not identity with my character's appearance that much. As a roleplayer I am more interested in whether this avatar can tell the story I want him too.
I feel there's way more racism than anything sexual about all this.
Asian style is just another word for crap for some people because they obviously think their culture/art is sooooo much better.
It's all about culture & some occidental really have an over inflated nationnal egos & ingrained dogmas on how thing should or shouldn't be.
Are you insecure about the rise of asia? Do you feel threaten by your lost influence in the world?
Food for thoughts...
I'm pretty sure this exact same conversation is occurring in reverse on Chinese / Japanese / Korean forums at this very moment and most likely also Korean is better than Chinese / Japanese and Chinese is better than Korean / Japanese etc versions of the argument are happening as well.
These debates can get unneccessarily disparaging but again i'd guess the same happens elsewhere. Some people have no manners.
It's natural for the majority of people from a particular culture to prefer the art style they grew up with. It only becomes an issue when people are trying to sell things to people from another culture. If that person being sold to is me i want *one* rugged male face for my money. I'm not particularly fussy and they don't have to be western looking.
I feel there's way more racism than anything sexual about all this.
Asian style is just another word for crap for some people because they obviously think their culture/art is sooooo much better.
It's all about culture & some occidental really have an over inflated nationnal egos & ingrained dogmas on how thing should or shouldn't be.
Are you insecure about the rise of asia? Do you feel threaten by your lost influence in the world?
Food for thoughts...
I'm pretty sure this exact same conversation is occurring in reverse on Chinese / Japanese / Korean forums at this very moment and most likely also Korean is better than Chinese / Japanese and Chinese is better than Korean / Japanese etc versions of the argument are happening as well.
These debates can get unneccessarily disparaging but again i'd guess the same happens elsewhere. Some people have no manners.
It's natural for the majority of people from a particular culture to prefer the art style they grew up with. It only becomes an issue when people are trying to sell things to people from another culture. If that person being sold to is me i want *one* rugged male face for my money. I'm not particularly fussy and they don't have to be western looking.
Thing is, rugged male are there, but these people choose to ignore it & focus on "cute" & "effiminate". Thats what I call racism.
Over sexualisation is everywhere now a days, but, to these people, only asian anime crosses the line... They wear blinders or something. Again, racism is the explaination imo.
Where does racism comes from? Insecurity imo. Hence the valid questions about how "you" feel about asia.
Anyways... Maybe I'm way off target. Its just my opinion after all.
The art style differences between west and east is due largely in part as to how the different cultures perceive emotion. In eastern countries, people read a person's face predominately through eye expression, whereas in the west the whole face is read. It's the same reason why we have different emoticons - asian style emoticons, such as ^_^ T_T and x_x focus mainly on eye expression, where the western equivalents ;( and DX focus on the entire face.
I feel there's way more racism than anything sexual about all this.
Asian style is just another word for crap for some people because they obviously think their culture/art is sooooo much better.
It's all about culture & some occidental really have an over inflated nationnal egos & ingrained dogmas on how thing should or shouldn't be.
Are you insecure about the rise of asia? Do you feel threaten by your lost influence in the world?
Food for thoughts...
I'm pretty sure this exact same conversation is occurring in reverse on Chinese / Japanese / Korean forums at this very moment and most likely also Korean is better than Chinese / Japanese and Chinese is better than Korean / Japanese etc versions of the argument are happening as well.
These debates can get unneccessarily disparaging but again i'd guess the same happens elsewhere. Some people have no manners.
It's natural for the majority of people from a particular culture to prefer the art style they grew up with. It only becomes an issue when people are trying to sell things to people from another culture. If that person being sold to is me i want *one* rugged male face for my money. I'm not particularly fussy and they don't have to be western looking.
Thing is, rugged male are there, but these people choose to ignore it & focus on "cute" & "effiminate". Thats what I call racism.
Over sexualisation is everywhere now a days, but, to these people, only asian anime crosses the line... They wear blinders or something. Again, racism is the explaination imo.
Where does racism comes from? Insecurity imo. Hence the valid questions about how "you" feel about asia.
Anyways... Maybe I'm way off target. Its just my opinion after all.
I think there's some truth in what you're saying it's just i think the truth is in *how rude* people can be about saying they don't like certain art styles rather than in them not liking certain art styles, which i think is natural. If you see what i mean.
I feel there's way more racism than anything sexual about all this.
Asian style is just another word for crap for some people because they obviously think their culture/art is sooooo much better.
It's all about culture & some occidental really have an over inflated nationnal egos & ingrained dogmas on how thing should or shouldn't be.
Are you insecure about the rise of asia? Do you feel threaten by your lost influence in the world?
Food for thoughts...
Your statement goes both ways, and in my experiance in dealing with Asians(Japanese in particular) they tend to be much more nationalistic and arrogant about their culture.
"Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game."-Guybrush Threepwood "I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me."-Hunter S. Thompson
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>.> we coverd nothing....
:P...NO PEDO!
March on! - Lets Invade Pekopon
Do I need to repost everything I said about that? I know I covered it.
"Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game."-Guybrush Threepwood
"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me."-Hunter S. Thompson
No ... No need for that.
It’s just that I discussed that I like to play Little silly toons Like Hobbits and tarutaru...but there is nothing sexual behind it :O
But I think it may have been in another thread...devil seems to like to talk about pedos O_O
March on! - Lets Invade Pekopon
I would not consider the desire to play small characters pedophillia, but I do feel that the Japanese culture does seem to have problems with the Lolita complex. That being said after looking at Final Fantasy IV a look see I might give it a try when it hits the PS3.
"Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game."-Guybrush Threepwood
"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me."-Hunter S. Thompson
I think it is just a clash of cultures, we are just seeing it through western eyes.
Though I do believe taking out your paedophilic fetish onto a fantasy scenario ((such as Lolita art...if you can call it art)) is far better than going after the real thing.
Oh and on a side note I would play FFV instead IV...IMO it is a far superior game
March on! - Lets Invade Pekopon
I meant FF XIV. lol
"Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game."-Guybrush Threepwood
"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me."-Hunter S. Thompson
I plan to play MMOs for a long time. I am not going to play a game that I can't stand the artistic style or graphic choices. I am just not going to do it. It has nothing to do with anime or cartoony though as my preferences aren't that... narrow. Still, I am not going to blame some guy who doesn't want to play scrawny male character with feminine features and hair, nor am I going to blame some girl who doesn't want to run around in a maid's outfit. It's all about preferences. I have no idea why the OP is taking it so personally.
parrotpholk-Because we all know the miracle patch fairy shows up the night before release and sprinkles magic dust on the server to make it allllll better.
Mhmm I am talking about it because I know you have a complex about that since Illius made that comment on that baby video you posted a while back.
Froggy protests! *I am not weird!*
Anime/Manga has so many sub-genres that it is almost impossible to like them all. Some are ment for very young kids while others are ment solely for adults. Some of them are even produced to a very small sub-genre. And what I ment by adults is not Hentai (the sexual subgenre).
Even when you are watching a series ment for adults does not mean that the quality of artwork or animation is that good. Also, how you define Art in layman's term varies greatly.
I do like some Anime, but it is a very narrow selection. A good movie or show comes along roughly about every 5 years. I would say that 95-98% of Anime or Manga is not for me. Here is a list of some Anime I do like (and in terms of art direction and animation quality they vary quite a bit). More often than not, it is the story that I find compelling :
Cowbow Bebob
Akira
Spirited Away
Berserk
Ergo Proxy
Serial Experiment Lain
Black Lagoon
Ghost in a Shell
Monster
Time of Eve
Samurai Shamploo
"The person who experiences greatness must have a feeling for the myth he is in."
The same for me, but I don't agree with all your series (particularly Akira, yuck).
Anime is a treasure chest for us fantasy fans, otherwise we just have Legends of the seeker and few other western series (animated or not).
But just like western series are 90% of all anime total crap. And japs do have a weird fetish for schoolgirls in school uniforms or sailor suits but most anime isn't about that.
Saying that anime is about phedophilia is like saying all movies produced in California are porn movies.
saying most anime series are NOT about schoolgirls is the biggest lie in this thread.
Tbh I don't mind the artstyle as long as the games good an it has good nice vistas/interesting looking characters
Yeah i mostly see where you're coming from. I'm just saying there's a certain amount of hypocrisy about this - at least in my case - in that i quite like the asian female armor design and don't mind female cutesy faces as long as their bodies look fully physically developed. I can understand why female players might dislike being online walking fetish outfit models for the male players but i'm a total hypocrite over it. So i'm cool with female players wanting to have older looking faces but i hope the asian games don't change the fetish armor.
But i think the allergy from players is more about emo than pedo. Although there is an element of the latter in anime, i haven't noticed it much in games. There are games like Mabinogi which are (i assume) aimed at youngsters where it makes sense for the characters to look like kids. Wizard101 is a western example of the same thing. I can't play either because the characters look like kids - but i think it's fine if the games are designed for kids.
In theory i wouldn't have a problem with a game aimed at least partially at adults having a small race that looks like cute human kids. In theory i only have a problem when that is *combined* with the fetish armor. In practise though i don't like it. I like it when the small race looks non-human or like squashed adults e.g hobbits and gnomes in EQ.
(Just realised the EQ small race faces actually looked older than the large races.)
And I say you know fuck all about anime
March on! - Lets Invade Pekopon
lol
March on! - Lets Invade Pekopon
I feel there's way more racism than anything sexual about all this.
Asian style is just another word for crap for some people because they obviously think their culture/art is sooooo much better.
It's all about culture & some occidental really have an over inflated nationnal egos & ingrained dogmas on how thing should or shouldn't be.
Are you insecure about the rise of asia? Do you feel threaten by your lost influence in the world?
Food for thoughts...
OMG that's it, we are all so insecure of Asia we take it out on anime art. Come on get serious, I for one like the art style, hang on maybe I am a traitor? :D
The eurasian style has been around for ages, as a concession for a more square jawed look you often get a semi humanoid race that is big and rugged, or in the case of Dwarves at least rugged. Fine if that's more you, I do not identity with my character's appearance that much. As a roleplayer I am more interested in whether this avatar can tell the story I want him too.
Funny I have had a few guild members lost over time because they would not play a game that did not have cartoony asian style art. They ditched CryEngine 2 quality (not AION) for some crappy Asian Free to Play junk.
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Never said that
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I'm pretty sure this exact same conversation is occurring in reverse on Chinese / Japanese / Korean forums at this very moment and most likely also Korean is better than Chinese / Japanese and Chinese is better than Korean / Japanese etc versions of the argument are happening as well.
These debates can get unneccessarily disparaging but again i'd guess the same happens elsewhere. Some people have no manners.
It's natural for the majority of people from a particular culture to prefer the art style they grew up with. It only becomes an issue when people are trying to sell things to people from another culture. If that person being sold to is me i want *one* rugged male face for my money. I'm not particularly fussy and they don't have to be western looking.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takeshi_Kitano
would be fine.
Well said sir.
I was thinking of adding just that in an edit. I talked about this side of the globe because, well, thats what I know.
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Thing is, rugged male are there, but these people choose to ignore it & focus on "cute" & "effiminate". Thats what I call racism.
Over sexualisation is everywhere now a days, but, to these people, only asian anime crosses the line... They wear blinders or something. Again, racism is the explaination imo.
Where does racism comes from? Insecurity imo. Hence the valid questions about how "you" feel about asia.
Anyways... Maybe I'm way off target. Its just my opinion after all.
The art style differences between west and east is due largely in part as to how the different cultures perceive emotion. In eastern countries, people read a person's face predominately through eye expression, whereas in the west the whole face is read. It's the same reason why we have different emoticons - asian style emoticons, such as ^_^ T_T and x_x focus mainly on eye expression, where the western equivalents
;( and DX focus on the entire face.
I would like if devs design a game with the option of creating an avatar that doesn't have gender. That would be a breakthrough these days lol
play worms, worms do not have a gender.
lol
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I think there's some truth in what you're saying it's just i think the truth is in *how rude* people can be about saying they don't like certain art styles rather than in them not liking certain art styles, which i think is natural. If you see what i mean.
Your statement goes both ways, and in my experiance in dealing with Asians(Japanese in particular) they tend to be much more nationalistic and arrogant about their culture.
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