up now but wont let me log in, it just times out. prolly take a few minutes I suspect. I'm not too concerned with the class nerfs although I do think it was too early in the game to nerf anything but I am displeased with the nerfs to malformed souls & plaques & the addition of extra guards in certain cities. There were some good fights in Fortunes Shore but thats just not possible now as the new guards stun & snare you.
Seriously this is beyond me. The reason that the game is a shameless rip off with no innovative idea whatsoever is overlooked, but a patch with absolutely irrelevant balance changes is somewhat strong enough to quit the game puzzles me completely.
When I was beta testing this game there were many debates about unbalanced toons and that it needed changes before they went live, it appears they choose to wait until after so they could get the money in and then worry about the consequences afterwards. Bad move imo as people will not tollerate things like this in a modern game.
I can understand from a business point of view though as they needed to get the income from their investment and many people who are not hardcore will not even notice most of the changes so they will get away with it that I'm pretty sure of tbh. While it's obvious the game was in good shape prior to retail they could of got it a lot closer from the off had they waited one more month, but we hear this all the time about MMO's and it appears there is no honour in this industry at all.
Pretty much every warrior in my guild is fine with the patch. Warriors before were way too powerful, and it made no sense for them just to root you then run in circles while bunny hopping and spamming flame spear as you died.
The only people complaining are those who played in the above way. Those who actually realized the design was overpowered have no real issues with the patch and have already learned to adapt their build and are still pumping out 2k damage crits after the 1.1 patch.
I have a defiant beastmaster spec. A guardian reaver /paladin spec and I also have a bard and chloromancer. I am not unhappy with the changes. Some I feel were necessary .They were trivilaizing the content the overpowered builds and chloros and bards were making clerics practically useless in rifts.
i am a warrior and initially i was appauled by the intense nerfing done to my class. i downloaded the RJ parser and spent like 5-10 plat figuring out how to boost my dps again. the first couple of hours i was really fuming and was definitely set on the idea that my class became completely gimped. however, after an intense night of testing and researching the forums i figured out how to get somewhat close to my old DPS back. now i am happy.
however, for most people this wont be the case because they wont be able to get their old DPS back unless they do some heavy testing or wait for someone to come out with the new fotm build again. i mean, ideally we really should not be spoonfed fotm builds and then cry when they get shot down, thinking that the world is over just because that one build/mechanic doesnt work anymore. however, in reality, people are lazy and would rather have their fotm instead of figuring out their own original build.
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How in the world do they expect to make balanced PvP in a game with as many soul combinations? I forsee lots of nerfs/buffs for at least the next 6-12 months in this game. As a PvP enthusiast, I have hesitated in purchasing this game because I don't want to level a combination that I think will work well in PvP only to get nerfed and having to restart another combination.
The reality of the matter is the class was overpowered, now its not. Same goes for the rogue nerfs. I actually had a guy complain to me that thye took away his spammable "main attack"... cycling skills is a part of the game, sorry if you now have to play it at the same level of difficulty as everyone else. I play a warrior and I see nothing wrong with the nerfs. Besides, if your soul combos no longer works for you, respecing is incredibly cheap, figure something else out.
Seriously this is beyond me. The reason that the game is a shameless rip off with no innovative idea whatsoever is overlooked, but a patch with absolutely irrelevant balance changes is somewhat strong enough to quit the game puzzles me completely.
Seriously this is beyond me. The reason someone who clearly doesn't play or like the game is posting in a thread about it puzzles me completely.
The patch was needed, the ones complaining are the ones nerfed, just like every other mmo out there. It happens, suck it up. People are going to rage against Rift cause its the new black. The same will happen with SWTOR, GW2, and every single other mmo that will come on. The horse is dead, move on, the game is good regardless of how much you cry about it.
The reality of the matter is the class was overpowered, now its not. Same goes for the rogue nerfs. I actually had a guy complain to me that thye took away his spammable "main attack"... cycling skills is a part of the game, sorry if you now have to play it at the same level of difficulty as everyone else. I play a warrior and I see nothing wrong with the nerfs. Besides, if your soul combos no longer works for you, respecing is incredibly cheap, figure something else out.
I'll have to assume you've never even been close to 50 then. Rogues, even sabos, are garbage at that point; they're just there to be free valor points for the other team. The only OP spec warriors had at 50 was the champ/para/bm combo; riftblades are doody at 50. Giving players 50 levels of a unique style (a warrior that could battle from range), and then utterly destroying it is just rude. Don't even get me started on the Reaver changes - I can AOE just as many mobs on my cleric with no downtime, but the nerfbat didn't touch clerics, and mages were pimped to the point that I'd consider rerolling one if I still played.
Point being, Trion listens to the vocal QQing minority, and that's not something I can handle in an MMO. Before you rage that I'm sad my OP specs got nerfed, my main was an Assassin/Riftstalker - I had a Paladin/Reaver on the side, but he was only fun when I AOE'd down a bunch of mobs (also why I enjoyed my cleric alt).
Seems rift has settled down into the trend of massive nerfs like other mmo.
This has turned the rift forum into a frenzy with complaints of 2 of the 4 classes been heavily nerfed and one lifted to the new OP status.
Guess rift dev are human and do make errors afterall.Mind you making such nerfs jst before the end of the free month seems like bad buisness planning.
Anyhow i only play rift for 1-2 hrs a day at best so most nerfs do not affect me .Good casual game until i find something better.
Outrage? Really? Why then have I not been seeing any of this so called outrage expressed in the global chat or the guild chats on both Rift servers I play on? It may just be different where you play (I'm on Deepstrike and Dimroot) but all I've heard so far is people agreeing that their own classes were overpowered, or that clerics should be the best healers. I play a champ/reaver spec as my main and my toon was certainly too nasty, not that I didn't enjoy that fact .
Oh also I've seen a lot of people happy that other mage specs besides warlock/necro don't suck (at least as much) any more.
check rift offical forum you cannot miss it!
Ah the Rift forums, much like these forums, where anyone can sign up and post their opinions, even if they aren't actually playing the game, even if they have NEVER played the game.
No thanks, I'm sure I'm seeing a far more honest reaction from people who are actually investing their money and time in the game, than I would from the human centipede of sockpuppets that web forums have become in the past few of years.
"Gypsies, tramps, and thieves, we were called by the Admin of the site . . . "
Seems rift has settled down into the trend of massive nerfs like other mmo.
This has turned the rift forum into a frenzy with complaints of 2 of the 4 classes been heavily nerfed and one lifted to the new OP status.
Guess rift dev are human and do make errors afterall.Mind you making such nerfs jst before the end of the free month seems like bad buisness planning.
Anyhow i only play rift for 1-2 hrs a day at best so most nerfs do not affect me .Good casual game until i find something better.
Outrage? Really? Why then have I not been seeing any of this so called outrage expressed in the global chat or the guild chats on both Rift servers I play on? It may just be different where you play (I'm on Deepstrike and Dimroot) but all I've heard so far is people agreeing that their own classes were overpowered, or that clerics should be the best healers. I play a champ/reaver spec as my main and my toon was certainly too nasty, not that I didn't enjoy that fact .
Oh also I've seen a lot of people happy that other mage specs besides warlock/necro don't suck (at least as much) any more.
check rift offical forum you cannot miss it!
Ah the Rift forums, much like these forums, where anyone can sign up and post their opinions, even if they aren't actually playing the game, even if they have NEVER played the game.
No thanks, I'm sure I'm seeing a far more honest reaction from people who are actually investing their money and time in the game, than I would from the human centipede of sockpuppets that web forums have become in the past few of years.
Ah,.. yeah.... but those forums were great when Trion was throwing out press releases about 1 million accounts created. So now you are saying most of those accounts are people who never played, or never will play? Funny, that press release made it sound much more of a positive thing.
In any event, in a game with pvp, and a large number of specs, this is going to be an ongoing thing... and there will always be a vocal minority of players who can't get past their own bias to see that they were OP. Trion did learn from Blizzard though (dual specs)... a great way to elminate the anger from nerfs is to give people the ability to easily change specs.
The fans of the game are not up in arms over 1.1, just the usual tards that were playing OP classes getting upset because they aren't OP anymore.
I play all 4 classes and all 4 are just as effective as they were before the patch. Then again, I wasn't trying to rely on one OP skill(flamespear anyone)to spam over and over for /teh win.
This is as close to truth as your going to get..............
I play a Warrior. I'm not outraged, I'm actually glad Titan Strike/FS was nerfed because now something else is viable besides that. My guild does Greenscale and now our DPS is down with others on fights.
I quit Rift for many reasons before the 1.1 patch but I hate the idea of the 4 sec cooldown on flamespear and PotW. It completely removes a playstyle from the Warrior archtype which is what I liked about the soul system to begin with. Sometimes I like changing it up a bit but with the 1.1 patch it turns warriors back into pure melee or tank which gets boring quickly in WFs. Rogue and Cleric have far better options to play as for combinations while Warriors and Mages get stuck in 2 possible roles and that's just boring to me.
When developers are attacked and their buildings razed for balancing their game then you know it's time to break out the tinfoil hats and start our migration towards vault-tec Industries' Vaults. Seriously... Anyone who would be upset over their class being nerfed is being childish; especially in a game that offers so many roles (Souls)... *sigh*. And this doesn't just apply to rift. It applies to any game with classes/roles/etc.
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And people are just sour because their OP class got nerfed. It happens all the time - I wouldn't worry much about their nerdcry.
I play a Warrior - and I could care less about the nerfs - many of them were needed. Not a big deal IMO
Of course you don't care, nor should you. You play a warrior. Warriors, quite frankly, were OP, and not just due to the paragon armor penetration bug. Warriors are now fairly well balanced with mages and clerics.
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Entire classes were not nerfed. A few souls were though. When you go from being nearly unstoppable (looking at you warriors) to average, its a big hit. It'll all blow over. Rogues are pissed about something also but im not sure about that topic. Rogues seemed ok to me but allot of people were complaining about the saboteur soul being OP.
Rogues are pissed because between various nerfs starting from several betas back they have been robbed of virtually anything and everything that actually made them worth a crap. Marksman used to be strong, several betas back. Nerfed to obvlivion. Most of the Rogue DPS souls have been lackluster from the beginning. Sabotuer had a bug causing too much spike damage. Of course, instead of simply fixing the bug, they also nerfed the overal DPS to the toilet. There isn't a single rogue dps spec that can compete even with cleric DPS any more. Rogues can manage about 80% of a cleric's DPS, and about 60% of a warrior or mage.
When it comes to PvE usefulness, Bard always loses to Chloromancer. No big heals, no single target heals, no cleanses, no rezzes, and you have to maintain constant LOS with the enemy target from 20m away. The only thing rogues are any good at right now in end-game PvE is tanking. Just one small problem... there's no rogue tank gear available before end-game content. Better hope you can find a guild willing to carry your rogue to get tank gear if you want to get anywhere. And even rogue tanking got nerfed a few patches back, so while it's the best rogues have to offer, it's still subpar to cleric or warrior tanking.
So while the entire rogue class wasn't nerfed in 1.1, with the patches leading up to and including 1.1 the entire rogue class has now been nerfed. Even stealth is bugged now and doesn't always work right.
I've had one person IN GAME tell me they were really upset with the changes, and this was a sabo rogue. Apparently they changed the sabo play style to something extremely boring. The OP mentioned reading the forums. Here's a tip the forums represent a vocal minority in mmos. This is true with all mmos. To judge that rift fans are in outrage because of rage quitters and just all around poor perferoamnce players is to be extremely disengenious. The ragers and whiners are eithernplaying their first mmo or this is their MO.
If you were to look through this thread you'd most likely see people more upset that people are supposedly upset at the game. Such is the nature of forums and threads regarding balance...
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The FotM PvPers are where the majority of the complaints are coming from.
There are still some things that need to be balanced, but it's nowhere near as bad as many of the complainers are making it seem to be.
Exactly. From what I understand (I'm not level 50 yet) the pyros got more of a boost than was intended. Knowing Trion, they'll fix it soon enough. As for most of the complainers, they're upset that they're FotM spec is no longer as uber as it used to be. Although to be honest, for those who knew how to play, they weren't that uber or difficult to kill any way. I just spent a few hours playing today and the server was packed for the new live event, so there can't be too many "outraged" players out there. Just several loud whiners.
I've had one person IN GAME tell me they were really upset with the changes, and this was a sabo rogue. Apparently they changed the sabo play style to something extremely boring. The OP mentioned reading the forums. Here's a tip the forums represent a vocal minority in mmos. This is true with all mmos. To judge that rift fans are in outrage because of rage quitters and just all around poor perferoamnce players is to be extremely disengenious. The ragers and whiners are eithernplaying their first mmo or this is their MO.
Indeed there have been some changes in the sabo tree. Most of these changes revolved around preventing people from using minimum sabo contribution in conjunction with other rogue souls. As things are now, to get the same benefits from the sabo tree, you need to invest more into it:
* Charge Booster: Redesigned. Using Detonate with 5 combo points will fire off a Booster Charge, dealing 50% weapon damage. This damage is increased by 15% for each point in Saboteur over 21.
The nature of the damage changed as well. On paper it seems that damage got normalised and it should be a slight dps boost overall, although less spikey than before:
* The outcome and damage of each charge is now calculated individually. When you detonate 5 Blast Charges, you will see 5 damage numbers, each with its own chance to critically hit, rather than one large number.
Also the following bug fix is the cause of the dps decrease (similar but bigger bug fixes were made to the warrior tree:
* Improved Blast Charge: Fixed a bug where the armor penetration provided was higher than 25-50%.
Seems rift has settled down into the trend of massive nerfs like other mmo.
This has turned the rift forum into a frenzy with complaints of 2 of the 4 classes been heavily nerfed and one lifted to the new OP status.
Guess rift dev are human and do make errors afterall.Mind you making such nerfs jst before the end of the free month seems like bad buisness planning.
Anyhow i only play rift for 1-2 hrs a day at best so most nerfs do not affect me .Good casual game until i find something better.
Outrage? Really? Why then have I not been seeing any of this so called outrage expressed in the global chat or the guild chats on both Rift servers I play on? It may just be different where you play (I'm on Deepstrike and Dimroot) but all I've heard so far is people agreeing that their own classes were overpowered, or that clerics should be the best healers. I play a champ/reaver spec as my main and my toon was certainly too nasty, not that I didn't enjoy that fact .
Oh also I've seen a lot of people happy that other mage specs besides warlock/necro don't suck (at least as much) any more.
check rift offical forum you cannot miss it!
Ah the Rift forums, much like these forums, where anyone can sign up and post their opinions, even if they aren't actually playing the game, even if they have NEVER played the game.
No thanks, I'm sure I'm seeing a far more honest reaction from people who are actually investing their money and time in the game, than I would from the human centipede of sockpuppets that web forums have become in the past few of years.
Ah,.. yeah.... but those forums were great when Trion was throwing out press releases about 1 million accounts created. So now you are saying most of those accounts are people who never played, or never will play? Funny, that press release made it sound much more of a positive thing.
In any event, in a game with pvp, and a large number of specs, this is going to be an ongoing thing... and there will always be a vocal minority of players who can't get past their own bias to see that they were OP. Trion did learn from Blizzard though (dual specs)... a great way to elminate the anger from nerfs is to give people the ability to easily change specs.
Please point out where I have ever said the Trion forums were a great thing, the one million forum subscriptons announcements meant diddly squat as to how well the games sales actually performed , or that MOST of these accounts were held by people that never played. {mod edit}
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I have yet too meet one person in game (faeblight Guardian side) that was upset with the patch, several mages have been happy in public channels though. The Wowified official forums is unfortunately the worst thing with Rift. The new content is fun and the tweaks are logical. This is a good game!
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up now but wont let me log in, it just times out. prolly take a few minutes I suspect. I'm not too concerned with the class nerfs although I do think it was too early in the game to nerf anything but I am displeased with the nerfs to malformed souls & plaques & the addition of extra guards in certain cities. There were some good fights in Fortunes Shore but thats just not possible now as the new guards stun & snare you.
When I was beta testing this game there were many debates about unbalanced toons and that it needed changes before they went live, it appears they choose to wait until after so they could get the money in and then worry about the consequences afterwards. Bad move imo as people will not tollerate things like this in a modern game.
I can understand from a business point of view though as they needed to get the income from their investment and many people who are not hardcore will not even notice most of the changes so they will get away with it that I'm pretty sure of tbh. While it's obvious the game was in good shape prior to retail they could of got it a lot closer from the off had they waited one more month, but we hear this all the time about MMO's and it appears there is no honour in this industry at all.
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Pretty much every warrior in my guild is fine with the patch. Warriors before were way too powerful, and it made no sense for them just to root you then run in circles while bunny hopping and spamming flame spear as you died.
The only people complaining are those who played in the above way. Those who actually realized the design was overpowered have no real issues with the patch and have already learned to adapt their build and are still pumping out 2k damage crits after the 1.1 patch.
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I have a defiant beastmaster spec. A guardian reaver /paladin spec and I also have a bard and chloromancer. I am not unhappy with the changes. Some I feel were necessary .They were trivilaizing the content the overpowered builds and chloros and bards were making clerics practically useless in rifts.
i am a warrior and initially i was appauled by the intense nerfing done to my class. i downloaded the RJ parser and spent like 5-10 plat figuring out how to boost my dps again. the first couple of hours i was really fuming and was definitely set on the idea that my class became completely gimped. however, after an intense night of testing and researching the forums i figured out how to get somewhat close to my old DPS back. now i am happy.
however, for most people this wont be the case because they wont be able to get their old DPS back unless they do some heavy testing or wait for someone to come out with the new fotm build again. i mean, ideally we really should not be spoonfed fotm builds and then cry when they get shot down, thinking that the world is over just because that one build/mechanic doesnt work anymore. however, in reality, people are lazy and would rather have their fotm instead of figuring out their own original build.
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How in the world do they expect to make balanced PvP in a game with as many soul combinations? I forsee lots of nerfs/buffs for at least the next 6-12 months in this game. As a PvP enthusiast, I have hesitated in purchasing this game because I don't want to level a combination that I think will work well in PvP only to get nerfed and having to restart another combination.
Yes, but isn't RIFT supposed to be the bastion of hope for those running AWAY from WoW? Something has gone awry.
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The reality of the matter is the class was overpowered, now its not. Same goes for the rogue nerfs. I actually had a guy complain to me that thye took away his spammable "main attack"... cycling skills is a part of the game, sorry if you now have to play it at the same level of difficulty as everyone else. I play a warrior and I see nothing wrong with the nerfs. Besides, if your soul combos no longer works for you, respecing is incredibly cheap, figure something else out.
Seriously this is beyond me. The reason someone who clearly doesn't play or like the game is posting in a thread about it puzzles me completely.
The patch was needed, the ones complaining are the ones nerfed, just like every other mmo out there. It happens, suck it up. People are going to rage against Rift cause its the new black. The same will happen with SWTOR, GW2, and every single other mmo that will come on. The horse is dead, move on, the game is good regardless of how much you cry about it.
I'll have to assume you've never even been close to 50 then. Rogues, even sabos, are garbage at that point; they're just there to be free valor points for the other team. The only OP spec warriors had at 50 was the champ/para/bm combo; riftblades are doody at 50. Giving players 50 levels of a unique style (a warrior that could battle from range), and then utterly destroying it is just rude. Don't even get me started on the Reaver changes - I can AOE just as many mobs on my cleric with no downtime, but the nerfbat didn't touch clerics, and mages were pimped to the point that I'd consider rerolling one if I still played.
Point being, Trion listens to the vocal QQing minority, and that's not something I can handle in an MMO. Before you rage that I'm sad my OP specs got nerfed, my main was an Assassin/Riftstalker - I had a Paladin/Reaver on the side, but he was only fun when I AOE'd down a bunch of mobs (also why I enjoyed my cleric alt).
Ah the Rift forums, much like these forums, where anyone can sign up and post their opinions, even if they aren't actually playing the game, even if they have NEVER played the game.
No thanks, I'm sure I'm seeing a far more honest reaction from people who are actually investing their money and time in the game, than I would from the human centipede of sockpuppets that web forums have become in the past few of years.
"Gypsies, tramps, and thieves, we were called by the Admin of the site . . . "
Ah,.. yeah.... but those forums were great when Trion was throwing out press releases about 1 million accounts created. So now you are saying most of those accounts are people who never played, or never will play? Funny, that press release made it sound much more of a positive thing.
In any event, in a game with pvp, and a large number of specs, this is going to be an ongoing thing... and there will always be a vocal minority of players who can't get past their own bias to see that they were OP. Trion did learn from Blizzard though (dual specs)... a great way to elminate the anger from nerfs is to give people the ability to easily change specs.
This is as close to truth as your going to get..............
Who cares. This crap always changes, its an MMO, this is what happens!
I play a Warrior. I'm not outraged, I'm actually glad Titan Strike/FS was nerfed because now something else is viable besides that. My guild does Greenscale and now our DPS is down with others on fights.
Blown out of proportion.
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I quit Rift for many reasons before the 1.1 patch but I hate the idea of the 4 sec cooldown on flamespear and PotW. It completely removes a playstyle from the Warrior archtype which is what I liked about the soul system to begin with. Sometimes I like changing it up a bit but with the 1.1 patch it turns warriors back into pure melee or tank which gets boring quickly in WFs. Rogue and Cleric have far better options to play as for combinations while Warriors and Mages get stuck in 2 possible roles and that's just boring to me.
When developers are attacked and their buildings razed for balancing their game then you know it's time to break out the tinfoil hats and start our migration towards vault-tec Industries' Vaults. Seriously... Anyone who would be upset over their class being nerfed is being childish; especially in a game that offers so many roles (Souls)... *sigh*. And this doesn't just apply to rift. It applies to any game with classes/roles/etc.
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Of course you don't care, nor should you. You play a warrior. Warriors, quite frankly, were OP, and not just due to the paragon armor penetration bug. Warriors are now fairly well balanced with mages and clerics.
Rogues are pissed because between various nerfs starting from several betas back they have been robbed of virtually anything and everything that actually made them worth a crap. Marksman used to be strong, several betas back. Nerfed to obvlivion. Most of the Rogue DPS souls have been lackluster from the beginning. Sabotuer had a bug causing too much spike damage. Of course, instead of simply fixing the bug, they also nerfed the overal DPS to the toilet. There isn't a single rogue dps spec that can compete even with cleric DPS any more. Rogues can manage about 80% of a cleric's DPS, and about 60% of a warrior or mage.
When it comes to PvE usefulness, Bard always loses to Chloromancer. No big heals, no single target heals, no cleanses, no rezzes, and you have to maintain constant LOS with the enemy target from 20m away. The only thing rogues are any good at right now in end-game PvE is tanking. Just one small problem... there's no rogue tank gear available before end-game content. Better hope you can find a guild willing to carry your rogue to get tank gear if you want to get anywhere. And even rogue tanking got nerfed a few patches back, so while it's the best rogues have to offer, it's still subpar to cleric or warrior tanking.
So while the entire rogue class wasn't nerfed in 1.1, with the patches leading up to and including 1.1 the entire rogue class has now been nerfed. Even stealth is bugged now and doesn't always work right.
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If you were to look through this thread you'd most likely see people more upset that people are supposedly upset at the game. Such is the nature of forums and threads regarding balance...
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Exactly. From what I understand (I'm not level 50 yet) the pyros got more of a boost than was intended. Knowing Trion, they'll fix it soon enough. As for most of the complainers, they're upset that they're FotM spec is no longer as uber as it used to be. Although to be honest, for those who knew how to play, they weren't that uber or difficult to kill any way. I just spent a few hours playing today and the server was packed for the new live event, so there can't be too many "outraged" players out there. Just several loud whiners.
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Indeed there have been some changes in the sabo tree. Most of these changes revolved around preventing people from using minimum sabo contribution in conjunction with other rogue souls. As things are now, to get the same benefits from the sabo tree, you need to invest more into it:
* Charge Booster: Redesigned. Using Detonate with 5 combo points will fire off a Booster Charge, dealing 50% weapon damage. This damage is increased by 15% for each point in Saboteur over 21.
The nature of the damage changed as well. On paper it seems that damage got normalised and it should be a slight dps boost overall, although less spikey than before:
* The outcome and damage of each charge is now calculated individually. When you detonate 5 Blast Charges, you will see 5 damage numbers, each with its own chance to critically hit, rather than one large number.
Also the following bug fix is the cause of the dps decrease (similar but bigger bug fixes were made to the warrior tree:
* Improved Blast Charge: Fixed a bug where the armor penetration provided was higher than 25-50%.
Please point out where I have ever said the Trion forums were a great thing, the one million forum subscriptons announcements meant diddly squat as to how well the games sales actually performed , or that MOST of these accounts were held by people that never played. {mod edit}
"Gypsies, tramps, and thieves, we were called by the Admin of the site . . . "
I have yet too meet one person in game (faeblight Guardian side) that was upset with the patch, several mages have been happy in public channels though. The Wowified official forums is unfortunately the worst thing with Rift. The new content is fun and the tweaks are logical. This is a good game!
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