When does Star Wars: The Old Republic take place in relation to the movies?
Star Wars: The Old Republic takes place more than 3,500 years before the rise of Darth Vader
So, with that in mind, please explain why this entire universe has been basically stagnant for 3500 years? Star Destroyer like ships, Jedi with Lightsabers, The Sith, The Jedi and so on.
What was the Earth like 3500 years ago for comparison?
500 years ago Columbus sailed in a wooden ship. Today we use steel. However they are the same basic design and look quite the same. 300 years ago flintlocks were the gun of choice. Today modern cartridges take the place of ball and powder, however the guns are the same design. The point is that when something works and has stood the test of time, why not use it. Time span is not relavent when it comes to basic design. Materials change, tech changes. All of it stuffed in the same design used hundreds of years ealier.
Funny that, I visited a fair for classic bicycles a few weeks back and was taken aback in how they hadn't changed much at all. Even down to small details like the breaking system, etc.
This is a bike from 1900, if it wasn't for the wooden rims you'd guess it could have been a 60's, or even 70's bike.
Oh crap I promised not to post in this thread for 10 pages.
Set your posts per page to "2". :P
What's funny is how often it is that older technology looks far more sophisticated than new tech. For example, comparing a car drum brake to disk brakes:
Its clear the one world government is keeping technological and societal advances away from the sheep that inhabit that galaxy also.
What would you do?
You give a guy a fancy glowing sword and before you know it there's 2 zealous religious factions fighting each other all over the galaxy killing everyone.
I'm not religous by nature but i would join a religion if i got a free laser sword.
When comparing the SW universe to RL (which is a bit daft tbh) why do people instantly take the opinion that SWTOR is 1500BC and Darth/Luke era is todays world?
If comparing to RL it could also be that SWTOR is 2011AD and Darth/Luke is 5500AD.
When comparing the SW universe to RL (which is a bit daft tbh) why do people instantly take the opinion that SWTOR is 1500BC and Darth/Luke era is todays world?
If comparing to RL it could also be that SWTOR is 2011AD and Darth/Luke is 5500AD.
How different will it be?
There would be a noticable difference in techonology after only 100 years let alone 3500 on Earth.
The difference between TOR and Episode 1 is miniscule from what we've seen so far.
Did they have guns 3500 years ago? No - they had slings, spears,bows, and arrows.
I would guess that ship design would change in 3500 years - civilizations come and go in less time. I know IRL comparisons may be flawed here since this 'Is only a Game', but it is a product being produced using Real Life Money.
You are clutching at straws lets give earth 2000 years of development;
Evolution in Star Wars could easily be a 200,000 year cycle using the development example with respect to earth is plain stupid and not logical.
Poor comparison , Poor post and very poor logic I think you need to go back to the drawing board this post is a FAIL.
This game has everything people want pretty much with respect to an Star Wars IP; Yes there will wlways be a minority and evern if you got a vote of 10k people here on this site agrreing with you that would be 10k against at least a couple of million.
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When comparing the SW universe to RL (which is a bit daft tbh) why do people instantly take the opinion that SWTOR is 1500BC and Darth/Luke era is todays world?
If comparing to RL it could also be that SWTOR is 2011AD and Darth/Luke is 5500AD.
How different will it be?
There would be a noticable difference in techonology after only 100 years let along 3500 on Earth.
The difference between TOR and Episode 1 is miniscule from what we've seen so far.
How different?
Will we still be using computers? hand held devices? TV's? Cookers/Cleaners? Cars? Planes? Personally untill we have robots or we can control things with our minds it's still going to be the same old.
A nuclear war could end it all by then and send us back to day 1.
When comparing the SW universe to RL (which is a bit daft tbh) why do people instantly take the opinion that SWTOR is 1500BC and Darth/Luke era is todays world?
If comparing to RL it could also be that SWTOR is 2011AD and Darth/Luke is 5500AD.
How different will it be?
There would be a noticable difference in techonology after only 100 years let along 3500 on Earth.
The difference between TOR and Episode 1 is miniscule from what we've seen so far.
How different?
Will we still be using computers? hand held devices? TV's? Cookers/Cleaners? Cars? Planes? Personally untill we have robots or we can control things with our minds it's still going to be the same old.
A nuclear war could end it all by then and send us back to day 1.
Everything will be noticably different. Look at just tvs from 10 years ago vs. the ones today for example. Look at computers just in the last 20 years. And many devices that will exist in 20 or 50 years don't even exist today. Example, cell phones are huge these days yet didn't even exist when I was born.
Going into the future 3,500 will be drastically different.
The only real explanation for why there is so little progress between TOR and Episode One is some sort of dark age. There was one in Star Wars lore, but it didn't last long and it was immediatly followed by a golden age.
When comparing the SW universe to RL (which is a bit daft tbh) why do people instantly take the opinion that SWTOR is 1500BC and Darth/Luke era is todays world?
If comparing to RL it could also be that SWTOR is 2011AD and Darth/Luke is 5500AD.
How different will it be?
There would be a noticable difference in techonology after only 100 years let along 3500 on Earth.
The difference between TOR and Episode 1 is miniscule from what we've seen so far.
How different?
Will we still be using computers? hand held devices? TV's? Cookers/Cleaners? Cars? Planes? Personally untill we have robots or we can control things with our minds it's still going to be the same old.
A nuclear war could end it all by then and send us back to day 1.
Everything will be noticably different. Look at just tvs from 10 years ago vs. the ones today for example. Look at computers just in the last 20 years. And many devices that will exist in 20 or 50 years don't even exist today. Example, cell phones are huge these days yet didn't even exist when I was born.
Going into the future 3,500 will be drastically different.
The only real explanation for why there is so little progress between TOR and Episode One is some sort of dark age. There was one in Star Wars lore, but it didn't last long and it was immediatly followed by a golden age.
I understand where you are coming from. I just dont get how drastically different it will be. It sounds like we will be doing the same things just on more advanced technology. yes that might be different but its still the same device.
The way we live is drastically different to the way it was 3500. It so easy now. How much easier is it going to get?
Everything will be noticably different. Look at just tvs from 10 years ago vs. the ones today for example. Look at computers just in the last 20 years. And many devices that will exist in 20 or 50 years don't even exist today. Example, cell phones are huge these days yet didn't even exist when I was born.
Going into the future 3,500 will be drastically different.
The only real explanation for why there is so little progress between TOR and Episode One is some sort of dark age. There was one in Star Wars lore, but it didn't last long and it was immediatly followed by a golden age.
Read the posts in this thread and answer me this: How do you know?
How can you be absolutely completely certain that the only possible way for a civilisation to advance is the way we've been advancing for the past 100 years?
Just because you're not capable of thinking of explanations doesn't mean there aren't any.
The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence.
We just don't know how going into the future 3500 years will be. And when at that point we certainly have no idea whatsoever how it will look if we go another 3500 years into the future.
Can you really say with certainty that, in the future of humanity, there will never ever be 2 time-periods 3500 years apart that, to an outsider, look mostly the same?
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When comparing the SW universe to RL (which is a bit daft tbh) why do people instantly take the opinion that SWTOR is 1500BC and Darth/Luke era is todays world?
If comparing to RL it could also be that SWTOR is 2011AD and Darth/Luke is 5500AD.
How different will it be?
There would be a noticable difference in techonology after only 100 years let along 3500 on Earth.
The difference between TOR and Episode 1 is miniscule from what we've seen so far.
How different?
Will we still be using computers? hand held devices? TV's? Cookers/Cleaners? Cars? Planes? Personally untill we have robots or we can control things with our minds it's still going to be the same old.
A nuclear war could end it all by then and send us back to day 1.
Everything will be noticably different. Look at just tvs from 10 years ago vs. the ones today for example. Look at computers just in the last 20 years. And many devices that will exist in 20 or 50 years don't even exist today. Example, cell phones are huge these days yet didn't even exist when I was born.
Going into the future 3,500 will be drastically different.
The only real explanation for why there is so little progress between TOR and Episode One is some sort of dark age. There was one in Star Wars lore, but it didn't last long and it was immediatly followed by a golden age.
I understand where you are coming from. I just dont get how drastically different it will be. It sounds like we will be doing the same things just on more advanced technology. yes that might be different but its still the same device.
The way we live is drastically different to the way it was 3500. It so easy now. How much easier is it going to get?
Futurists are notoriously inaccurate in predicting what the future will look and be like. We can't even accurately predict 25-30 years in the future let alone 100 or 3,500 years.
The progress between what we've seen in TOR vs. Episode 1 is miniscule. Ten or twenty years or whatever of progress in 3,000+ years doesn't make sense. And nothing in Star Wars lore from what I've read explains this.
Everything will be noticably different. Look at just tvs from 10 years ago vs. the ones today for example. Look at computers just in the last 20 years. And many devices that will exist in 20 or 50 years don't even exist today. Example, cell phones are huge these days yet didn't even exist when I was born.
Going into the future 3,500 will be drastically different.
The only real explanation for why there is so little progress between TOR and Episode One is some sort of dark age. There was one in Star Wars lore, but it didn't last long and it was immediatly followed by a golden age.
Read the posts in this thread and answer me this: How do you know?
How can you be absolutely completely certain that the only possible way for a civilisation to advance is the way we've been advancing for the past 100 years?
Just because you're not capable of thinking of explanations doesn't mean there aren't any.
The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence.
We just don't know how going into the future 3500 years will be. And when at that point we certainly have no idea whatsoever how it will look if we go another 3500 years into the future.
Can you really say with certainty that, in the future of humanity, there will never ever be 2 time-periods 3500 years apart that, to an outsider, look mostly the same?
im going to end all discussion on the subject in favour of the OP.
just take a second look at KOTOR or KOTOR 2.
Yes, we can relate to the technology and feel of Star Wars in those games, but they are not a carbon copy of of the OT and the PT with a few adjustments to the objects they use / ride / etc.
Those games certainly did feel from another era altogether; but when looking at the videos and screenshot of SWTOR, it almost seems as if its a parallel universe.
Everything will be noticably different. Look at just tvs from 10 years ago vs. the ones today for example. Look at computers just in the last 20 years. And many devices that will exist in 20 or 50 years don't even exist today. Example, cell phones are huge these days yet didn't even exist when I was born.
Going into the future 3,500 will be drastically different.
The only real explanation for why there is so little progress between TOR and Episode One is some sort of dark age. There was one in Star Wars lore, but it didn't last long and it was immediatly followed by a golden age.
Read the posts in this thread and answer me this: How do you know?
How can you be absolutely completely certain that the only possible way for a civilisation to advance is the way we've been advancing for the past 100 years?
Just because you're not capable of thinking of explanations doesn't mean there aren't any.
The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence.
We just don't know how going into the future 3500 years will be. And when at that point we certainly have no idea whatsoever how it will look if we go another 3500 years into the future.
Can you really say with certainty that, in the future of humanity, there will never ever be 2 time-periods 3500 years apart that, to an outsider, look mostly the same?
Even if we had a dark age for 100 years, I know we would still be more advanced in 3,500 years than we are now. And it would show. It will look different and life will be different.
Seems a bit silly that even with it being set 3500 years into the past it's still easily recognisable as Star Wars.
I mean, I understand why it is as it is. Just from a historic point of view, it doesn't seem to make much sense.
Any Star Wars Lore buffs who can explain?
11.000 years ago Humans used wood and stone.
6.000 years ago Humans still used only wood and stone.
3.500 Star Wars years ago Humans used lightsabers and blasters.
0 Star Wars years ago Humans still used only lightsabers and blasters.
How exactly doesn't it make historical sense?
It doesn't make sense because the "historical periods" have growner shorter and shorter as time progressed. The millenium long periods of stagnation you point at, is at the very beginning of human history. From then on every period of time in history has grown ever shorter as research, science of nature and math and empirical unravelling of nature has brought forth new paradigms and new technologies. Ages basically fly past quicker and quicker.
Even if we had a dark age for 100 years, I know we would still be more advanced in 3,500 years than we are now. And it would show. It will look different and life will be different.
That's not the case with TOR and Episode 1.
I'm sorry. I must have missed the "EVERY 3500 YEARS TECHNOLOGY WILL CHANGE SO DRASTICALLY THAT IS SHALL BE COMPLETELY DIFFIRENT AND LIFE WILL BE COMPLETELY DIFFIRENT" written in flaming letters across the sky.
Could you point me to your source for the knowledge that every 3500 years everything will always look diffirent and life will always be diffirent?
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Seems a bit silly that even with it being set 3500 years into the past it's still easily recognisable as Star Wars.
I mean, I understand why it is as it is. Just from a historic point of view, it doesn't seem to make much sense.
Any Star Wars Lore buffs who can explain?
11.000 years ago Humans used wood and stone.
6.000 years ago Humans still used only wood and stone.
3.500 Star Wars years ago Humans used lightsabers and blasters.
0 Star Wars years ago Humans still used only lightsabers and blasters.
How exactly doesn't it make historical sense?
It doesn't make sense because the "historical periods" have growner shorter and shorter as time progressed. The millenium long periods of stagnation you point at, is at the very beginning of human history. From then on every period of time in history has grown ever shorter as research, science of nature and math and empirical unravelling of nature has brought forth new paradigms and new technologies. Ages basically fly past quicker and quicker.
This is called Moores Law. Eventually we will attain singularity. This does not seem to be the case with the Universe surrounding Star Wars...besides...since when do you have sound in space. Clearly the Star Wars Universe is a totally different reality than our own and the laws of physics are different there as well.
What can we deduce by this? That STAR WARS is sci-fi / fantasy and that is all it was ever meant to be. Nothing more, nothing less. It was a just a good space opera - very pulpy space opera.
Seems a bit silly that even with it being set 3500 years into the past it's still easily recognisable as Star Wars.
I mean, I understand why it is as it is. Just from a historic point of view, it doesn't seem to make much sense.
Any Star Wars Lore buffs who can explain?
11.000 years ago Humans used wood and stone.
6.000 years ago Humans still used only wood and stone.
3.500 Star Wars years ago Humans used lightsabers and blasters.
0 Star Wars years ago Humans still used only lightsabers and blasters.
How exactly doesn't it make historical sense?
It doesn't make sense because the "historical periods" have growner shorter and shorter as time progressed. The millenium long periods of stagnation you point at, is at the very beginning of human history. From then on every period of time in history has grown ever shorter as research, science of nature and math and empirical unravelling of nature has brought forth new paradigms and new technologies. Ages basically fly past quicker and quicker.
Thus we'll eventually hit ages that are over in seconds?
Welcome to the holo age! Ow wait, it's just changed to the... No wait, it's now... nevermind we... erm... yeah we just missed 25 ages not sure what they were called. And there go another 50 ages....
We are the bunny. Resistance is futile. ''/\/\'''''/\/\''''''/\/\ ( o.o) ( o.o) ( o.o) (")("),,(")("),(")(")
Even if we had a dark age for 100 years, I know we would still be more advanced in 3,500 years than we are now. And it would show. It will look different and life will be different.
That's not the case with TOR and Episode 1.
I'm sorry. I must have missed the "EVERY 3500 YEARS TECHNOLOGY WILL CHANGE SO DRASTICALLY THAT IS SHALL BE COMPLETELY DIFFIRENT AND LIFE WILL BE COMPLETELY DIFFIRENT" written in flaming letters across the sky.
Could you point me to your source for the knowledge that every 3500 years everything will always look diffirent and life will always be diffirent?
If the sun still comes up for 3,500 years we know the Earth will be more advanced, look different and life will be different.
Even if we had a dark age for 100 years, I know we would still be more advanced in 3,500 years than we are now. And it would show. It will look different and life will be different.
That's not the case with TOR and Episode 1.
I'm sorry. I must have missed the "EVERY 3500 YEARS TECHNOLOGY WILL CHANGE SO DRASTICALLY THAT IS SHALL BE COMPLETELY DIFFIRENT AND LIFE WILL BE COMPLETELY DIFFIRENT" written in flaming letters across the sky.
Could you point me to your source for the knowledge that every 3500 years everything will always look diffirent and life will always be diffirent?
If the sun still comes up for 3,500 years we know the Earth will be more advanced, look different and life will be different.
Look different and life being different I can agree, more advanced? Not necesarily. We could nuke the crap out of Earth, I'm sure that would advance us alot. All that's needed actually is a power solar storm hitting then the Earth when it's magnetic field is weak and there go the, i think it was about 50, transformers or generators, can't remeber exactly, that we can only produce about 3 a year (seems these things are damn expensive and hard to produce) and that's while having electricity. Basically say hello to Fallout, they seem so advanced in that game, I agree.
Seems a bit silly that even with it being set 3500 years into the past it's still easily recognisable as Star Wars.
I mean, I understand why it is as it is. Just from a historic point of view, it doesn't seem to make much sense.
Any Star Wars Lore buffs who can explain?
11.000 years ago Humans used wood and stone.
6.000 years ago Humans still used only wood and stone.
3.500 Star Wars years ago Humans used lightsabers and blasters.
0 Star Wars years ago Humans still used only lightsabers and blasters.
How exactly doesn't it make historical sense?
It doesn't make sense because the "historical periods" have growner shorter and shorter as time progressed. The millenium long periods of stagnation you point at, is at the very beginning of human history. From then on every period of time in history has grown ever shorter as research, science of nature and math and empirical unravelling of nature has brought forth new paradigms and new technologies. Ages basically fly past quicker and quicker.
Thus we'll eventually hit ages that are over in seconds?
Welcome to the holo age! Ow wait, it's just changed to the... No wait, it's now... nevermind we... erm... yeah we just missed 25 ages not sure what they were called. And there go another 50 ages....
You are just being facetious in your responses now.
This is called Moores Law. Eventually we will attain singularity. This does not see to be the case with the Universe surrounding Star Wars...besides...since when do you have sound in space. Clearly the Star Wars Universe is a totally different reality than our own and the laws of physics are different there as well.
What can we deduce by this? That STAR WARS is sci-fi / fantasy and that is all it was ever meant to be. Nothing more, nothing less. It was a just a good space opera - very pulpy space opera.
Moore's Law doesn't go on forever. Gordon Moore himself states:
"It can't continue forever. The nature of exponentials is that you push them out and eventually disaster happens."
Moore's Law is about transistors. Eventually transistors will hit the limits of miniaturization at atomic levels. We're expected to hit that limit within 20 years or so. At this point Moore's Law stops. That's the limit.
After that we'll have to switch technologies ( qbits and quantum computing most likely. ) Provided of course we have an alternate technology ready. Maybe the Star Wars universe has hit the limits of the Moore's Law for whatever technology they use but they don't have anything else. They've got quantum computing but nobody knows where to go next. It could happen.
We are the bunny. Resistance is futile. ''/\/\'''''/\/\''''''/\/\ ( o.o) ( o.o) ( o.o) (")("),,(")("),(")(")
Everything will be noticably different. Look at just tvs from 10 years ago vs. the ones today for example. Look at computers just in the last 20 years. And many devices that will exist in 20 or 50 years don't even exist today. Example, cell phones are huge these days yet didn't even exist when I was born.
Going into the future 3,500 will be drastically different.
The only real explanation for why there is so little progress between TOR and Episode One is some sort of dark age. There was one in Star Wars lore, but it didn't last long and it was immediatly followed by a golden age.
Read the posts in this thread and answer me this: How do you know?
How can you be absolutely completely certain that the only possible way for a civilisation to advance is the way we've been advancing for the past 100 years?
Just because you're not capable of thinking of explanations doesn't mean there aren't any.
The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence.
We just don't know how going into the future 3500 years will be. And when at that point we certainly have no idea whatsoever how it will look if we go another 3500 years into the future.
Can you really say with certainty that, in the future of humanity, there will never ever be 2 time-periods 3500 years apart that, to an outsider, look mostly the same?
Even if we had a dark age for 100 years, I know we would still be more advanced in 3,500 years than we are now. And it would show. It will look different and life will be different.
That's not the case with TOR and Episode 1.
I just want to make sure everyone is on the same page with what people think in terms of technology and progress over time.
1) Technology will grow, and continue to grow more quickly, and the more technology there is, the faster it will progress.
2) Technology will continue to progress inconsequentially across different species, races, planets, solar systems, etc. and be adopted by each and all races over any long period of time.
3) Technology will never come to a point where specific types of technology will be outlawed or too dangerous to continue researching or, in the least, limited by any "intergalactic" organization.
4) Technology will never - EVER - get to a point where advancement is not possible, when there is a form of technology, it will form in a J curve to unending expansion.
5) Technology taking on any kind of retro design is not possible or improbable across a gap of thousands of years, despite however functional it may be.
Am I getting a clear picture here of what people are professing?
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Set your posts per page to "2". :P
What's funny is how often it is that older technology looks far more sophisticated than new tech. For example, comparing a car drum brake to disk brakes:
Quick! Which looks "higher tech"?
I'm not religous by nature but i would join a religion if i got a free laser sword.
I dont know man, too much pressure!
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The OP is making a good point. The game is set thousands of years apart from the movies and yet in terms of technology they are maybe 10 years behind.
When comparing the SW universe to RL (which is a bit daft tbh) why do people instantly take the opinion that SWTOR is 1500BC and Darth/Luke era is todays world?
If comparing to RL it could also be that SWTOR is 2011AD and Darth/Luke is 5500AD.
How different will it be?
May be true, but you can tell the cameras back in the stone age were nowhere near as good. Look at all that light bleed!.
There would be a noticable difference in techonology after only 100 years let alone 3500 on Earth.
The difference between TOR and Episode 1 is miniscule from what we've seen so far.
You are clutching at straws lets give earth 2000 years of development;
Evolution in Star Wars could easily be a 200,000 year cycle using the development example with respect to earth is plain stupid and not logical.
Poor comparison , Poor post and very poor logic I think you need to go back to the drawing board this post is a FAIL.
This game has everything people want pretty much with respect to an Star Wars IP; Yes there will wlways be a minority and evern if you got a vote of 10k people here on this site agrreing with you that would be 10k against at least a couple of million.
________________________________________________________
Sorcery must persist, the future is the Citadel
How different?
Will we still be using computers? hand held devices? TV's? Cookers/Cleaners? Cars? Planes? Personally untill we have robots or we can control things with our minds it's still going to be the same old.
A nuclear war could end it all by then and send us back to day 1.
Everything will be noticably different. Look at just tvs from 10 years ago vs. the ones today for example. Look at computers just in the last 20 years. And many devices that will exist in 20 or 50 years don't even exist today. Example, cell phones are huge these days yet didn't even exist when I was born.
Going into the future 3,500 will be drastically different.
The only real explanation for why there is so little progress between TOR and Episode One is some sort of dark age. There was one in Star Wars lore, but it didn't last long and it was immediatly followed by a golden age.
I understand where you are coming from. I just dont get how drastically different it will be. It sounds like we will be doing the same things just on more advanced technology. yes that might be different but its still the same device.
The way we live is drastically different to the way it was 3500. It so easy now. How much easier is it going to get?
Read the posts in this thread and answer me this: How do you know?
How can you be absolutely completely certain that the only possible way for a civilisation to advance is the way we've been advancing for the past 100 years?
Just because you're not capable of thinking of explanations doesn't mean there aren't any.
The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence.
We just don't know how going into the future 3500 years will be. And when at that point we certainly have no idea whatsoever how it will look if we go another 3500 years into the future.
Can you really say with certainty that, in the future of humanity, there will never ever be 2 time-periods 3500 years apart that, to an outsider, look mostly the same?
We are the bunny.
Resistance is futile.
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Futurists are notoriously inaccurate in predicting what the future will look and be like. We can't even accurately predict 25-30 years in the future let alone 100 or 3,500 years.
The progress between what we've seen in TOR vs. Episode 1 is miniscule. Ten or twenty years or whatever of progress in 3,000+ years doesn't make sense. And nothing in Star Wars lore from what I've read explains this.
im going to end all discussion on the subject in favour of the OP.
just take a second look at KOTOR or KOTOR 2.
Yes, we can relate to the technology and feel of Star Wars in those games, but they are not a carbon copy of of the OT and the PT with a few adjustments to the objects they use / ride / etc.
Those games certainly did feel from another era altogether; but when looking at the videos and screenshot of SWTOR, it almost seems as if its a parallel universe.
Even if we had a dark age for 100 years, I know we would still be more advanced in 3,500 years than we are now. And it would show. It will look different and life will be different.
That's not the case with TOR and Episode 1.
In the Star Wars Universe they didn't hit "Singularity".
It doesn't make sense because the "historical periods" have growner shorter and shorter as time progressed. The millenium long periods of stagnation you point at, is at the very beginning of human history. From then on every period of time in history has grown ever shorter as research, science of nature and math and empirical unravelling of nature has brought forth new paradigms and new technologies. Ages basically fly past quicker and quicker.
I'm sorry. I must have missed the "EVERY 3500 YEARS TECHNOLOGY WILL CHANGE SO DRASTICALLY THAT IS SHALL BE COMPLETELY DIFFIRENT AND LIFE WILL BE COMPLETELY DIFFIRENT" written in flaming letters across the sky.
Could you point me to your source for the knowledge that every 3500 years everything will always look diffirent and life will always be diffirent?
We are the bunny.
Resistance is futile.
''/\/\'''''/\/\''''''/\/\
( o.o) ( o.o) ( o.o)
(")("),,(")("),(")(")
This is called Moores Law. Eventually we will attain singularity. This does not seem to be the case with the Universe surrounding Star Wars...besides...since when do you have sound in space. Clearly the Star Wars Universe is a totally different reality than our own and the laws of physics are different there as well.
What can we deduce by this? That STAR WARS is sci-fi / fantasy and that is all it was ever meant to be. Nothing more, nothing less. It was a just a good space opera - very pulpy space opera.
Thus we'll eventually hit ages that are over in seconds?
Welcome to the holo age! Ow wait, it's just changed to the... No wait, it's now... nevermind we... erm... yeah we just missed 25 ages not sure what they were called. And there go another 50 ages....
We are the bunny.
Resistance is futile.
''/\/\'''''/\/\''''''/\/\
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If the sun still comes up for 3,500 years we know the Earth will be more advanced, look different and life will be different.
Look different and life being different I can agree, more advanced? Not necesarily. We could nuke the crap out of Earth, I'm sure that would advance us alot. All that's needed actually is a power solar storm hitting then the Earth when it's magnetic field is weak and there go the, i think it was about 50, transformers or generators, can't remeber exactly, that we can only produce about 3 a year (seems these things are damn expensive and hard to produce) and that's while having electricity. Basically say hello to Fallout, they seem so advanced in that game, I agree.
You are just being facetious in your responses now.
Moore's Law doesn't go on forever. Gordon Moore himself states:
"It can't continue forever. The nature of exponentials is that you push them out and eventually disaster happens."
Moore's Law is about transistors. Eventually transistors will hit the limits of miniaturization at atomic levels. We're expected to hit that limit within 20 years or so. At this point Moore's Law stops. That's the limit.
After that we'll have to switch technologies ( qbits and quantum computing most likely. ) Provided of course we have an alternate technology ready. Maybe the Star Wars universe has hit the limits of the Moore's Law for whatever technology they use but they don't have anything else. They've got quantum computing but nobody knows where to go next. It could happen.
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I just want to make sure everyone is on the same page with what people think in terms of technology and progress over time.
1) Technology will grow, and continue to grow more quickly, and the more technology there is, the faster it will progress.
2) Technology will continue to progress inconsequentially across different species, races, planets, solar systems, etc. and be adopted by each and all races over any long period of time.
3) Technology will never come to a point where specific types of technology will be outlawed or too dangerous to continue researching or, in the least, limited by any "intergalactic" organization.
4) Technology will never - EVER - get to a point where advancement is not possible, when there is a form of technology, it will form in a J curve to unending expansion.
5) Technology taking on any kind of retro design is not possible or improbable across a gap of thousands of years, despite however functional it may be.
Am I getting a clear picture here of what people are professing?