Since GW2 won't have a monthly sub, i'm sure many people will play both off and on. In the same category as "pay 2 play" SWTOR will probably get demolished by The Secret World. You heard it here first!
only diffrence between GW2 not having a sub and other MMOs is that you dont have to pay 15$, it is such a weird comment to say GW2 doesnt compete with other MMOs because of their lack of extra payment.....so in other MMOs you pay 15$ and if you find you d still not like it for what ever reason you cancelled in the first place and you stop play, the only diffrence is you paid 15$, instead of like GW2 just logged in for an hour or so and then logged out again....15$ doesnt change who your competitors is...
It's not really weird, most people who claim that either don't know how MMORPG gamers operate or they're big fans of _____ subscription game and want people to believe they're not in competition with each other since it's pretty obvious GW2 will cut into sub gamers' gametime, thus less $15/month shelled out for a shelved title. Why pay for something you're not playing? ANet has already debunked the myth that server costs are necessary for content, which is why I refuse to give these greedy a-holes extra pocket money. All Blizzard ever did with it was put more game character statues in their lobby.
Exactly.
Some folks seem to think that competition is binary. Like two products either compete on every possible dimension or not at all. It doesn't work this way, there are many different degrees of competition.
For example, MMORPG games actually compete with other entertainment products like sports to a small degree. As in, "I would have got WoW, but I'm just too busy with Football season." A person only has a finite amount of time for entertainment, and if they are spending all that time on other activities, they probably won't sub to an MMORPG.
Now it's true that like things compete more heavily, like WoW competes heavily with Rift. But this doesn't mean that WoW doesn't also compete with Battlefield 3 to a lesser degree. Typically, the more similar two products are, the more they compete.
And when you look at GW2 and SWTOR...they are both themepark MMORPGs...pretty freaking similar in the grand scheme of things. They will compete.
for good reason, people want loot, even if it is just for the looks, if one way drops something someone wants and the other doesn't and the majority of the groups decides to go path b, that person is going to be pissed, maybe one way is easier than the other meaning the majority of groups will want to take it even if you want something from the other way, this leads to frustration
TOR doesn't have this problem, so I don't see anything superior in Gw2s aproach, just different with it's own drawbacks
That is because you assumed that GW2 will use the standard loot system where each boss has a unique loot table. AFAIK, the GW2 dungeon use the token system where upon completing the dungeon will reward people with a token that can be traded for a piece of either the weapon set (story mode) or armor set ( exploreable mode) that are both unique to that dungeon.
Yea I saw his post but I didn't want to respond to it without the link .
Also what does AFAIK, I don't see that acrynom used a lot until I started reading posts on this thread and others.
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Exactly.
Some folks seem to think that competition is binary. Like two products either compete on every possible dimension or not at all. It doesn't work this way, there are many different degrees of competition.
For example, MMORPG games actually compete with other entertainment products like sports to a small degree. As in, "I would have got WoW, but I'm just too busy with Football season." A person only has a finite amount of time for entertainment, and if they are spending all that time on other activities, they probably won't sub to an MMORPG.
Now it's true that like things compete more heavily, like WoW competes heavily with Rift. But this doesn't mean that WoW doesn't also compete with Battlefield 3 to a lesser degree. Typically, the more similar two products are, the more they compete.
And when you look at GW2 and SWTOR...they are both themepark MMORPGs...pretty freaking similar in the grand scheme of things. They will compete.
Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob?
Yea I saw his post but I didn't want to respond to it without the link
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Also what does AFAIK, I don't see that acrynom used a lot until I started reading posts on this thread and others.
I might get banned for this. - Rizel Star.
I'm not afraid to tell trolls what they [need] to hear, even if that means for me to have an forced absence afterwards.
P2P LOGIC = If it's P2P it means longevity, overall better game, and THE BEST SUPPORT EVER!!!!!(Which has been rinsed and repeated about a thousand times)
Common Sense Logic = P2P logic is no better than F2P Logic.
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AFAIK = As far as I know.