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Another Cash Shop [POLL]

UnlightUnlight Member Posts: 2,540

We've all had time to discuss GW2's cash shop now.  Let's see where we stand.

 

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  • FangrimFangrim Member UncommonPosts: 616

    I am a little concerned with Anets comments like 'It dosn't matter what we put in the cash shop' but will still be playing.


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  • Lord.BachusLord.Bachus Member RarePosts: 9,686

    Originally posted by Fangrim

    I am a little concerned with Anets comments like 'It dosn't matter what we put in the cash shop' but will still be playing.

    That comment has been taken out of proportions...

     

    It was in a general way of speaking. But does not indicate they will sell all and everything in their cashshop, only cosmetical items and items that give a short time advantage

    Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)

  • FangrimFangrim Member UncommonPosts: 616

    Only time will tell.


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  • Master10KMaster10K Member Posts: 3,065

    The cash shop has had no affect on my future purchase of the game.

    I've always known that the cash shop will contain some boosters, but knowing that Guild can earn superior boosters certainly puts that worry to rest. A lot of the time-saving items like the instant repair kit & loot bags are merely offset by various mechanics within the game (e.g. instant teleportation). And really all I can see myself spending cash on are the character slots. The other account stuff I'll just earn via trading Gold.

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  • ButregenyoButregenyo Member UncommonPosts: 483

    Anet've changed anything they think that dont work well for their game so far, and they are testing the cash shop at the moment so they can try if it affects gameplay/economy etc. in a bad way. I do not see why people are raging over that test. They iterate, iterate iterate...

    Gaming Industry is not for your worthless souls to entertain forever for free, it is for making money. And still Anet offers the best offer beside most of the milker companies like blizzard, activision, EA/bio which is optional, they do not wan to force you for your real money. Geez this crap discussion is getting boring. 

  • GanatharGanathar Member Posts: 143

    I am undecided and I'll wait till GW2 get's closer to release, so that I can see what the cash shop will look like then.

  • AmjocoAmjoco Member UncommonPosts: 4,860

    Originally posted by Master10K

    The cash shop has had no affect on my future purchase of the game.

    I've always known that the cash shop will contain some boosters, but knowing that Guild can earn superior boosters certainly puts that worry to rest. A lot of the time-saving items like the instant repair kit & loot bags are merely offset by various mechanics within the game (e.g. instant teleportation). And really all I can see myself spending cash on are the character slots. The other account stuff I'll just earn via trading Gold.

    I agree with you but what worries me is that we have let the proverbial snow ball loose. Anet is monitoring things like this forum and when we say one thing is ok then $$ rack up in their heads. When do we stop and say that boosters, bags, and micorphones are not a good thing. <--examples I'm all for GW2, and am a huge fan. I just don't see this stopping and money is money, they will keep adding more and more items to the cash shop until we get a big fluffy WoW Cataclysm.

    Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.

  • RefMinorRefMinor Member UncommonPosts: 3,452
    Originally posted by Butregenyo

    Anet've changed anything they think that dont work well for their game so far, and they are testing the cash shop at the moment so they can try if it affects gameplay/economy etc. in a bad way. I do not see why people are raging over that test. They iterate, iterate iterate...
    Gaming Industry is not for your worthless souls to entertain forever for free, it is for making money. And still Anet offers the best offer beside most of the milker companies like blizzard, activision, EA/bio which is optional, they do not wan to force you for your real money. Geez this crap discussion is getting boring. 

     

    Do you ever wonder why you keep joining the discussion then?
  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183

    Still planning on playing,

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


  • dzoni87dzoni87 Member Posts: 541

    After i saw those crappy items that were even in beta, i broke my faith in Arena.net and their design philosophies, and got greatly dissapointed. I quickly forgot all about those Dynamic Events, WvW, No Holy trinity class system, no classic Gear threadmill, and many other features that i dont know anything about them, because i didnt even done proper researching. This turned to be another F2P with evil CS p2w items, and there is no way im buying this. Im saving my money for Pandas :)

    LOL Jking, i wasnt saving money from my 3 payments for nothing... still waiting and excited about this. Im not expectin second coming of Jeebus, but i think it will be a great game.

    Main MMO at the moment: Guild Wars 2
    Waiting for: Pathfinder Online

  • style360style360 Member Posts: 70

    I don't really understand this question, there's nothing in the cash shop that you need to buy. Why can't you still enjoy the dynamic events and the WvWvW and all the other things without using the cash shop?

  • LeucentLeucent Member Posts: 2,371

    Originally posted by style360

    I don't really understand this question, there's nothing in the cash shop that you need to buy. Why can't you still enjoy the dynamic events and the WvWvW and all the other things without using the cash shop?

    You can , but missinformed and pissed off at the world people are saying it s P2W. Theres nothing in there at all that takes away from someone who doesn t ever use the CS. I know I ll use it once in a blue moon or never, but I know I ll enjoy the hell out of the game.

  • EzhaeEzhae Member UncommonPosts: 735

    Haven't changed my view on game at all really. I knew it will have cash shop, I knew what I can expect from the cash shop, turned out to be pretty much exactly how I imagined it. Sure, there are things I'd rather not see there (like Megaphones) but in the end it does not bother me at the slightest. 

     

  • Master10KMaster10K Member Posts: 3,065

    Originally posted by Amjoco

    Originally posted by Master10K

    The cash shop has had no affect on my future purchase of the game.

    I've always known that the cash shop will contain some boosters, but knowing that Guild can earn superior boosters certainly puts that worry to rest. A lot of the time-saving items like the instant repair kit & loot bags are merely offset by various mechanics within the game (e.g. instant teleportation). And really all I can see myself spending cash on are the character slots. The other account stuff I'll just earn via trading Gold.

    I agree with you but what worries me is that we have let the proverbial snow ball loose. Anet is monitoring things like this forum and when we say one thing is ok then $$ rack up in their heads. When do we stop and say that boosters, bags, and micorphones are not a good thing. <--examples I'm all for GW2, and am a huge fan. I just don't see this stopping and money is money, they will keep adding more and more items to the cash shop until we get a big fluffy WoW Cataclysm.

    Yeah, the megaphone & finding chest you can't open will likely become annoying, but what a lot of people seem to think is that ArenaNet will change the game or cut out features like General chat, to make these items in the cash shop a necessity.

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  • AmjocoAmjoco Member UncommonPosts: 4,860

    Originally posted by Leucent

    Originally posted by style360

    I don't really understand this question, there's nothing in the cash shop that you need to buy. Why can't you still enjoy the dynamic events and the WvWvW and all the other things without using the cash shop?

    You can , but missinformed and pissed off at the world people are saying it s P2W. Theres nothing in there at all that takes away from someone who doesn t ever use the CS. I know I ll use it once in a blue moon or never, but I know I ll enjoy the hell out of the game.

    I think we are upset because it was to be a cosmetic CS and it isn't. Yes you can purchase the same things in game like you can with other MMOs, but that to me is not the intent of an rpg. I am going to buy the game and try and refrain from using the shop, but if it wasn't there it would make everything on the table even. Point blank, they know we will spend way more than $15 a month on a subscription. 

    Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.

  • RizelStarRizelStar Member UncommonPosts: 2,773

    Originally posted by Amjoco

    Originally posted by Leucent


    Originally posted by style360

    I don't really understand this question, there's nothing in the cash shop that you need to buy. Why can't you still enjoy the dynamic events and the WvWvW and all the other things without using the cash shop?

    You can , but missinformed and pissed off at the world people are saying it s P2W. Theres nothing in there at all that takes away from someone who doesn t ever use the CS. I know I ll use it once in a blue moon or never, but I know I ll enjoy the hell out of the game.

    I think we are upset because it was to be a cosmetic CS and it isn't. Yes you can purchase the same things in game like you can with other MMOs, but that to me is not the intent of an rpg. I am going to buy the game and try and refrain from using the shop, but if it wasn't there it would make everything on the table even. Point blank, they know we will spend way more than $15 a month on a subscription. 

    Man I swear to God, I guess it's more of a good riddance of people who dilusioned theirselves in to this mindset. Point blank...

    I might get banned for this. - Rizel Star.

    I'm not afraid to tell trolls what they [need] to hear, even if that means for me to have an forced absence afterwards.

    P2P LOGIC = If it's P2P it means longevity, overall better game, and THE BEST SUPPORT EVER!!!!!(Which has been rinsed and repeated about a thousand times)

    Common Sense Logic = P2P logic is no better than F2P Logic.

  • L0C0ManL0C0Man Member UncommonPosts: 1,065

    Was planning on playing and actually very hyped and looking forward to it... and to tell you the truth, still am.

    The way I see it, nothing has changed (from my point of view), there's nothing in the game blocked or that I couldn't experience by playing without ever using the cash shop. Will other people have advantages by getting faster leveling or more money than me?... absolutely... people would still do cash shop or not, and there's really nothing that will affect me directly since nothing there has any effect in structured PvP, and (seemingly based on leaks) minor effect on WvW, even less as the times goes on.

    So, at least in my case, still hyped for the game, intending to pre-purchase on april 10th and play on release. I can understand why other people aren't, and it's perfectly ok as well, if they're not confortable with the cash shop as it is there's no point in playing something they won't find fun.

    What can men do against such reckless hate?

  • dzoni87dzoni87 Member Posts: 541

    Originally posted by style360

    I don't really understand this question, there's nothing in the cash shop that you need to buy. Why can't you still enjoy the dynamic events and the WvWvW and all the other things without using the cash shop?

    Well actually you can. I tried to point at thousands of my other replies, that the one can enjoy just everything that the game has to offer without spending any cent further than the box price (Expansions doesnt count). Yet many are close-minded. Its nothing but fighting the windmills here, at the end of the day. Seems that i like that fight, i dont know.

    EDIT: The final conclusion that i made is that many had the expectations of astronomical measures, which caused the problem.

    Main MMO at the moment: Guild Wars 2
    Waiting for: Pathfinder Online

  • KakkzookaKakkzooka Member Posts: 591

    I'm playing, but as soon as they put in items that grant statistical advantages via gear, or change the shop so that items aren't easily accesible to players lacking a discretionary income  - then I'm gone.

    If this shop messes with the integrity of an open economy - I'm gone. (Meaning - if gems become the default currency because gold loses its value due to the cash shop.)

    Please, please, please, ArenaNet - don't watch what EA and Blizzard are doing - stick to your central tenents. Stick to your guns.

     

     

    Re: SWTOR

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  • AmjocoAmjoco Member UncommonPosts: 4,860

    Originally posted by RizelStar

    Originally posted by Amjoco


    Originally posted by Leucent


    Originally posted by style360

    I don't really understand this question, there's nothing in the cash shop that you need to buy. Why can't you still enjoy the dynamic events and the WvWvW and all the other things without using the cash shop?

    You can , but missinformed and pissed off at the world people are saying it s P2W. Theres nothing in there at all that takes away from someone who doesn t ever use the CS. I know I ll use it once in a blue moon or never, but I know I ll enjoy the hell out of the game.

    I think we are upset because it was to be a cosmetic CS and it isn't. Yes you can purchase the same things in game like you can with other MMOs, but that to me is not the intent of an rpg. I am going to buy the game and try and refrain from using the shop, but if it wasn't there it would make everything on the table even. Point blank, they know we will spend way more than $15 a month on a subscription. 

    Man I swear to God, I guess it's more of a good riddance of people who dilusioned theirselves in to this mindset. Point blank...

    You sound hypocritical

    Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.

  • komobokomobo Member Posts: 144

    Originally posted by RizelStar

    Originally posted by Amjoco


    Originally posted by Leucent


    Originally posted by style360

    I don't really understand this question, there's nothing in the cash shop that you need to buy. Why can't you still enjoy the dynamic events and the WvWvW and all the other things without using the cash shop?

    You can , but missinformed and pissed off at the world people are saying it s P2W. Theres nothing in there at all that takes away from someone who doesn t ever use the CS. I know I ll use it once in a blue moon or never, but I know I ll enjoy the hell out of the game.

    I think we are upset because it was to be a cosmetic CS and it isn't. Yes you can purchase the same things in game like you can with other MMOs, but that to me is not the intent of an rpg. I am going to buy the game and try and refrain from using the shop, but if it wasn't there it would make everything on the table even. Point blank, they know we will spend way more than $15 a month on a subscription. 

    Man I swear to God, I guess it's more of a good riddance of people who dilusioned theirselves in to this mindset. Point blank...

    Indeed. It's up to oneself how much you want to spend on the GW2 cash shop and no one else, it's a very simple concept. Even the fact that you are able to buy whatever item you want using ingame gold is apparently so easily forgotten. You don't have to spend a dime, imagine that!

    Most people don't seem to have any worries paying 15$ a month for your standard bug fixes and occasional content patch, but as soon as the concept of a cash shop is introduced people fret and suddenly becomes very emotional attatched to their wallet, fearing the evil CS monster will devour their precious allowance.

    * Waves at Pushkina *

  • RizelStarRizelStar Member UncommonPosts: 2,773

    I guess this thread is being looked at more than the other one.

    Guess I'll copy and paste what I said.

     

    Nothing in the cash shop is a need but a [want].

    Nothin in the cash shop will give you a free pass from an ass whoooping no matter what it is pve,wvwvw, and pvp.

    Game mechanics negate all needs.

    Available to those who don't and do spend cash.

    Limited and on cooldowns.

    So far on the images you can't raise price gems.

    If I was too give a fuck I'd would not be able to enjoy the game with out the cash shop.

    Well that's just it I can enjoy the entire game with out the cash shop.

    My sig not the link.

    Take care and enjoy yourself.

    I might get banned for this. - Rizel Star.

    I'm not afraid to tell trolls what they [need] to hear, even if that means for me to have an forced absence afterwards.

    P2P LOGIC = If it's P2P it means longevity, overall better game, and THE BEST SUPPORT EVER!!!!!(Which has been rinsed and repeated about a thousand times)

    Common Sense Logic = P2P logic is no better than F2P Logic.

  • RizelStarRizelStar Member UncommonPosts: 2,773

    Originally posted by komobo

    Originally posted by RizelStar


    Originally posted by Amjoco


    Originally posted by Leucent


    Originally posted by style360

    I don't really understand this question, there's nothing in the cash shop that you need to buy. Why can't you still enjoy the dynamic events and the WvWvW and all the other things without using the cash shop?

    You can , but missinformed and pissed off at the world people are saying it s P2W. Theres nothing in there at all that takes away from someone who doesn t ever use the CS. I know I ll use it once in a blue moon or never, but I know I ll enjoy the hell out of the game.

    I think we are upset because it was to be a cosmetic CS and it isn't. Yes you can purchase the same things in game like you can with other MMOs, but that to me is not the intent of an rpg. I am going to buy the game and try and refrain from using the shop, but if it wasn't there it would make everything on the table even. Point blank, they know we will spend way more than $15 a month on a subscription. 

    Man I swear to God, I guess it's more of a good riddance of people who dilusioned theirselves in to this mindset. Point blank...

    Indeed. It's up to oneself how much you want to spend on the GW2 cash shop and no one else, it's a very simple concept. Even the fact that you are able to buy whatever item you want using ingame gold is apparently so easily forgotten. You don't have to spend a dime, imagine that!

    Most people don't seem to have any worries paying 15$ a month for your standard bug fixes and occasional content patch, but as soon as the concept of a cash shop is introduced people fret and suddenly becomes very emotional attatched to their wallet, fearing the evil CS monster will devour their precious allowance.

    It literally is, like as of right now based on prices one would need 60 silver to get 200 Gems in order to get at least one item from the cash shop lol.

    Personally I'm goig to be doing that, I will be buying  some character slots though.

    Get everything else with in game money that I want in game.

    I'll prolly save some in game Gold for some repair kits. Dungeons look crucial, no point in ressurection stone since I can use check points and instant teleport.

    Save me 20 bucks in rl and have same opportunity as those using rl cash.

    Course that's assuming who is selling gems at the static price.

     

    I might get banned for this. - Rizel Star.

    I'm not afraid to tell trolls what they [need] to hear, even if that means for me to have an forced absence afterwards.

    P2P LOGIC = If it's P2P it means longevity, overall better game, and THE BEST SUPPORT EVER!!!!!(Which has been rinsed and repeated about a thousand times)

    Common Sense Logic = P2P logic is no better than F2P Logic.

  • GeeTeeEffOhGeeTeeEffOh Member Posts: 731


    Originally posted by RefMinor
    Originally posted by ButregenyoAnet've changed anything they think that dont work well for their game so far, and they are testing the cash shop at the moment so they can try if it affects gameplay/economy etc. in a bad way. I do not see why people are raging over that test. They iterate, iterate iterate...
    Gaming Industry is not for your worthless souls to entertain forever for free, it is for making money. And still Anet offers the best offer beside most of the milker companies like blizzard, activision, EA/bio which is optional, they do not wan to force you for your real money. Geez this crap discussion is getting boring. 
     
    Do you ever wonder why you keep joining the discussion then?

    Because there are no games that provide a better place to spend time in.
  • Ambros123Ambros123 Member Posts: 877

    Originally posted by Amjoco

    Originally posted by Master10K

    The cash shop has had no affect on my future purchase of the game.

    I've always known that the cash shop will contain some boosters, but knowing that Guild can earn superior boosters certainly puts that worry to rest. A lot of the time-saving items like the instant repair kit & loot bags are merely offset by various mechanics within the game (e.g. instant teleportation). And really all I can see myself spending cash on are the character slots. The other account stuff I'll just earn via trading Gold.

    I agree with you but what worries me is that we have let the proverbial snow ball loose. Anet is monitoring things like this forum and when we say one thing is ok then $$ rack up in their heads. When do we stop and say that boosters, bags, and micorphones are not a good thing. <--examples I'm all for GW2, and am a huge fan. I just don't see this stopping and money is money, they will keep adding more and more items to the cash shop until we get a big fluffy WoW Cataclysm.

    ANET monitoring this forum? LOLOLOLOL

    This is the worst forums to monitor as it is a cesspool of shit talking fanboism and nothing really is ever productive here.  Any info given here by ANet to MMORPG.com is puresly promotional.  Monitoring is done via fan sites who will be a whole crap load more objective than here and beta testers.

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