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GW2 vs Tera my almighty opinion

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  • Ashen_XAshen_X Member Posts: 363

    Originally posted by miagisan

    Originally posted by just1opinion

     

    Comparing TERA to GW2 is like ASKING for trolls to please come run a rampage over your thread.  The person who said, "This thread will not end well," is correct.  Nothing good will come from this.  You could have just as easily gone over to the TERA forums and given them a cordial invitation.

     

    Having said that....I actually agree with the things you said about GW2 (of course).  I don't know enough about TERA to comment on but a very FEW things, and those aren't important aspects like combat.  For all I know, TERA's combat could be just terrific, but I haven't EXPERIENCED IT PERSONALLY so therefore I'm not suited to comment, so I don't.  The only thing about TERA I have ever commented on is the graphics (which I have seen in videos), and the use of sexualization of characters (also from videos).  I can't comment on any of the technical aspect of gameplay, but a lot of people seem to like it, so I figure it can't be all bad.

     

    Both of these games are loved by many and hated by few.  I think they come up pretty even in that department.  Why can't we all just agree to disagree and keep enjoying the game that we want to enjoy.  What's so freaking difficult about that?  No, we'd rather try to convince the unconvincable to switch to "our" favorite game.  It's just really silly.  Why should you care if someone loves a game that you don't????   What is the big deal?   lol

    Getting anyone from GW2 to get along with another game will never happen. Since the announcement of GW2 rabid fanbois have been invading other game forums since it was announced. Quite annoying to everyone else.

    Interesting blanket statement.

     

    How do you reconcile it with the number of people who have stated that they intend to play GW2 in addition to other games such as Tera ?

     

    I personally have several games that I currently play to one extent or another. I also intend to check out some, such as Tera, that I do not currently play.

     

    Now, since I and others, prove that your statement is hyperbole, who is the one acting rabid ? Your statement is inaccurate, either due to purposeful dishonesty or ignorance. If you have read posts in threads such as this where people state that they support other games as well as GW2 and still claim that, "anyone from GW2" will not get along with other games, you are engaged in purposeful dishonesty. If you have not actually read sufficiently to see that a significant number of people who support GW2 also support other games, then your statement is, by definition, merely a function of ignorance.

    Which is it ?

     

    Of course if you had claimed "some GW2" supporters rather than "anyone" who supports GW2, that would be a different matter entirely. We have all seen some fans of GW2 bash other games. Then again I have seen fans of other games bash still other games. That is not a GW2 phenomenon. Its a human polarization issue.

    When all has been said and done, more will have been said than done.

  • DerpybirdDerpybird Member Posts: 991

    Originally posted by OldManFunk

    Originally posted by miagisan 

    Getting anyone from GW2 to get along with another game will never happen. Since the announcement of GW2 rabid fanbois have been invading other game forums since it was announced. Quite annoying to everyone else.

    Just wanted to point out your most recent post history shows you spend most of your time in the GW2 forums.

     

    Are you a fan?

    Of course he is, why else would he be posting so frequently on GW2 threads?

    "Loading screens" are not "instances".
    Your personal efforts to troll any game will not, in fact, impact the success or failure of said game.

  • Eir_SEir_S Member UncommonPosts: 4,440

    Originally posted by TheTrueKing

    Most accurate reviews and Press agree that Tera is worthless pre level 30 but becomes interesting after level 30.

    Sorry, but that's just stupid.  I wouldn't spend a dime on something that made me waste that much time getting to the fun stuff. I was having fun in GW2 at level 1.  THAT right there is the reason I value one game over the other.

  • RebelScum99RebelScum99 Member Posts: 1,090

    Originally posted by Eir_S

    Originally posted by TheTrueKing

    Most accurate reviews and Press agree that Tera is worthless pre level 30 but becomes interesting after level 30.

    Sorry, but that's just stupid.  I wouldn't spend a dime on something that made me waste that much time getting to the fun stuff. I was having fun in GW2 at level 1.  THAT right there is the reason I value one game over the other.

    Not only is it stupid, it's utterly false.  But whatever...

     

     

  • Eir_SEir_S Member UncommonPosts: 4,440
    Then what level does it take to get to the fun stuff?  Another post yesterday said level 20.
  • BeansnBreadBeansnBread Member EpicPosts: 7,254

    Originally posted by Eir_S

    Then what level does it take to get to the fun stuff?  Another post yesterday said level 20.

    I played it till 20 and was utterly bored. If it gets better, it's after 20.

  • PurgatusPurgatus Member Posts: 342
    Level 20 is where dungeons and BAM's start appering. Until then, its grind quests. After 20 is when the combat is supposed to heat up.
  • RebelScum99RebelScum99 Member Posts: 1,090

    Originally posted by Eir_S

    Then what level does it take to get to the fun stuff?  Another post yesterday said level 20.

    20 is when you get to start doing BAMs, and get to your first dungeon, so that's when it starts getting challenging.  The game actually began getting much more enjoyable for me around level 11, however, when I got to leave the main city and head out and interact with the amazing looking world.  

    So yeah, you don't want to wait until level 20 because you think every MMO should hook you from the beginning.  I get that.  All the people who like to use that excuse to disregard TERA have made that abundantly clear.  But it takes all of 2-3 play sessions for most people to reach that level, so if someone is too lazy to stick it out and see what the game has to offer before making a decision at level 8, well...good riddance, I say.  

    Both games are good games, and both have their flaws.  I prefer TERA personally because I enjoy a seamless world and challenging mobs.  Obviously, you guys are of the opinion that a game should hook you at level one.  My opinion is that GW2 wouldn't hook me from level one anyway, so that point is moot to me personally.  

     

  • Eir_SEir_S Member UncommonPosts: 4,440
    Fair enough, but no it's not just because of GW2, it's just that after playing WoW for so many years and games like WoW, I'm tired of waiting to have fun (this includes raids and waiting for certain classes to join the queue so you can actually do something).  Personal preference, thank you for a respectful post.
  • doragon86doragon86 Member UncommonPosts: 589

    There are some aspects of GW2 and Tera combat I like and dislike. 

     

    Tera's dodging is actual dodging. You can either use a skill to dodge/block or physically move your character to dodge an attack. If you are proficient at it, you'll rarely get hit at all. However, the combat isn't as smooth as many of the skill animations lock you into place until they complete. For short animations, it isn't really annoying. However, for some of the longer animations, can be as such. Sure, you can use skill canceling using your dodge/block skill, but that isn't the point.

     

    GW2 dodging is not actual dodging in my opinion, but rather some sort of quasi dodging system. Every class has a dodge skill. If I walk up to a mob, and I see he's about to do a move, I can dodge out of the way if I time it well. However, if I decide to circle strafe a mob, it works somewhat differently. There have been many times I'm fighting a mob, and I'm directly behind them yet somehow I still get hit with the attack. Moving just seems to reduce the chance you'll get hit rather than actually avoiding the hit all together. I think this is part of the reason why melee in general are having issues in PvE. The moment I switched to range, I had a far easier time with the PvE content. The combat however is smoother than Tera mainly because none of the skills (from what I've seen mind you), force you to stay in place. 

     

    Personally, the best sort of action oriented combat I've seen so far was in Vindictus. Dodging was as it should be. You had to aim your skills. Lastly, skill animations didn't lock you in place. I hope someone realizes this is a good way to go in an MMO and adopts it. 

     

    Anyways, I enjoy playing both Tera and GW2. However, I prefered GW2 moreso because it was in some ways, different than the norm. 

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  • darkhalf357xdarkhalf357x Member UncommonPosts: 1,237

    Originally posted by Squidgerino

    Thats not really comparing if you just prefer GW2 in all aspects. 

    Personally I find the combat in Tera way more inticing. The action oriented combat actually makes pvp and boss fights fun and exciting, instead of awkward and clunky as I feel they are in GW2 atm.

    I think GW2 has alot of cool concepts, I just feel they failed at implanting all of them smoothly. To me it just feels too similar to Warhammer, Rift and SWTOR. Which isn't aweful, I just don't think they did anything so groundbreaking to make it the next big mmo. 

    I do prefer the game world and map in GW2 because it adds a layer of detail and immersion that Tera doesnt have, but it's a toss up because Tera's character animations are way smoother. If only they could put Tera's combat/animations into GW2's world, and then mix in some elements of UO and classic EQ while they're at it :) 

     

     

    How do you see GW2 the same as SWTOR?  One runs down corridors. Has stationary combat. And NO exploration.  While the former is completely open world (go where you want).  Active/moving combat and tons of things to find in the world.

    If anything they are diametrically opposed.

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  • PurgatusPurgatus Member Posts: 342

    Originally posted by RebelScum99

     

    So yeah, you don't want to wait until level 20 because you think every MMO should hook you from the beginning.  I get that.  All the people who like to use that excuse to disregard TERA have made that abundantly clear.  But it takes all of 2-3 play sessions for most people to reach that level, so if someone is too lazy to stick it out and see what the game has to offer before making a decision at level 8, well...good riddance, I say.  

     

    Why should any game require you to struggle through shoddy content before you get to experience what the game has to offer? Why not just give that experience from the start? Fight some BAM's at level six etc.? How is that not bad design?

    You may not like GW2, but at least the gameplay showed you that right away.

  • DeddpoolDeddpool Member UncommonPosts: 197

    Originally posted by Purgatus

    Originally posted by RebelScum99

     

    So yeah, you don't want to wait until level 20 because you think every MMO should hook you from the beginning.  I get that.  All the people who like to use that excuse to disregard TERA have made that abundantly clear.  But it takes all of 2-3 play sessions for most people to reach that level, so if someone is too lazy to stick it out and see what the game has to offer before making a decision at level 8, well...good riddance, I say.  

     

    Why should any game require you to struggle through shoddy content before you get to experience what the game has to offer? Why not just give that experience from the start? Fight some BAM's at level six etc.? How is that not bad design?

    You may not like GW2, but at least the gameplay showed you that right away.

    Exactly...waiting for 20 levels to enjoy anything is dumb..what happened to hooking you in the beginning?  GW2 did that for me.

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  • sonoggisonoggi Member Posts: 1,119

    i have a strong feeling about TERA flopping after the first month or so because the game simply has too little substance, even though it is quite shiny. it's also a one-trick pony, like TOR was. TOR = story-based, wooow amazing. flop. TERA = revolutionary combat. not. it's basically action RPG copied from the consoles, except  it wasnt even executed well. people feel too frozen by the animations.

    GW2 is a strong contender in every  category and has ridiculous amounts of uniquely designed content. ultimately, people simply wont play a game that does one thing well for longer than a month or two. people stick with games that are well-rounded.

  • PurgatusPurgatus Member Posts: 342

    Originally posted by sonoggi

    i have a strong feeling about TERA flopping after the first month or so because the game simply has too little substance, even though it is quite shiny. it's also a one-trick pony, like TOR was. TOR = story-based, wooow amazing. flop. TERA = revolutionary combat. not. it's basically action RPG copied from the consoles, except  it wasnt even executed well. people feel too frozen by the animations.

    GW2 is a strong contender in every  category and has ridiculous amounts of uniquely designed content. ultimately, people simply wont play a game that does one thing well for longer than a month or two. people stick with games that are well-rounded.

    I would not go that far. TOR made a lot of money, and TERA has a good amount of interesting features. I just don't understand the mentality that I'm somehow not giving an MMO a fair chance by not playing it till lv 20 (even if it only takes 3 or so sessions) when those first 20 levels are so bad.

  • KuinnKuinn Member UncommonPosts: 2,072

    Originally posted by Amjoco

    Originally posted by TheTrueKing

     

     

    Gary Gannon from Game Breaker.com put it perfectly in their last TWIMMO about TERA. Its a rip off and is stealing customers money. But I did find a reason for it, PvP bullys will love it and its ability to allow you to PK anyone at any time and wage war on anyone at any time... Let them have their game and they can have it.  I refuse to pay a box price + sub for another free 2 play korean grind piece of crap.

    Hmm, I'm a GW2 fanboi but love any mmorpg. This part I marked is just his opinion and I have one too. You can't steal anyones money if they are enjoying what they are paying for.  This guy has no legitmate right to tell anyone what they should do to entertain themselves. His publisher or the directors at Game Breaker.com should know that also and have in my opinion discredited their site.

    Edit: for delete

     

    This.

     

    And, only thing worth watching in GBT is Mike B, a couple of the "reporters" and a bunch of the guests right now, but kids like Gannon are getting really annoying and taking away a lot from the shows, he really seem to have become a true douche, his mouth moves a lot and a lot of noise comes out but he doesent really say anything, else than some waste of time fanboy influenced frothing. The last things I want to hear in a games/mmorpgs show like theirs is some guy telling me what I should enjoy or not, stomping some game into the ground without basically any explanation while telling everyone that he has only few hours spent in that game.

     

    That's extremely unprofessional (I know, he's not professional, that's not the point) and makes the show look cheap and heavily biased. Only thing that saved that TWIMMO episode was Mike B. because he actually had a lot to say, stuff that means something and he explains himself, had experience behind his words and he can objectively look at both good and bad and not just one side like some mindless fanboy embarassing himself in front of the internet. You can see the frustration of Mike B. in the episode when Gary begins to act like your average mmorpg.com forum troll.

     

    It's not about the games in question, it's about the all time low in quality of that show. Gary should be only in the shows that are about the games he is a fan of, at least then he is a bit more excited and actually has to say quite a lot, unlike the time wasting troll we saw in the last episode who seemed like he really does not want to be there, but has to make noises because he is there.

  • RelytDnegelRelytDnegel Member UncommonPosts: 261
    I played both and actually proffered TERA except it doesn't have WvWvW and the latency issues from Australia make it unplayable if you want to be even slightly competitive. So I will not be getting TERA but instead GW2 and D3 until that is ready!
  • SquidgerinoSquidgerino Member UncommonPosts: 13

     

    "How do you see GW2 the same as SWTOR?  One runs down corridors. Has stationary combat. And NO exploration.  While the former is completely open world (go where you want).  Active/moving combat and tons of things to find in the world.

    If anything they are diametrically opposed."

     

     

    Mainly that they felt that they needed a personal storyline and cutscenes. I personally think they could of done without.

  • The_KorriganThe_Korrigan Member RarePosts: 3,460

    Tera bored me after less than an hour playing already. The quests in Tera are so bland that it makes one think the WoW quests were written my an award winning fantasy author. Granted they have a good graphics engine, but the heavily Asiatic art style made me want to puke more than once (those ugly midgets you have to kill as soon as the starter area... this is pokemon, not a MMORPG).

    GW2 grabbed me in the first hour and made me want to play more. Not having to follow bland quests on rails but being able to choose what I want to do and where I want to do it is just priceless. The art is excellent, not that heavy manga style that makes me sick just by looking at it. Oh, and did I mention one starter zone per race, and several story lines for the same class depending on what option you choose at character creation, instead of a single starter area?

    Tera is bland crap compared to GW2. The only good thing it had was combat, but even there GW2 beats it with the weapon swapping and advanced character customization.

    And of course, GW2 is F2P.

    The only way I think someone could prefer Tera to GW2 is if he is into manga style graphics.

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  • ClassicstarClassicstar Member UncommonPosts: 2,697


    Originally posted by TheTrueKing
    Most accurate reviews and Press agree that Tera is worthless pre level 30 but becomes interesting after level 30.
    To see why there is no comparing TERA vs Guild Wars 2 go watch the last TWIMMO on gamebreaker about TERA and you'll see. (The Following are not just my personal feelings but are agreed with most press reviews of tera.) I just wont pussy foot around and try and call tera a good game when it isn't, it has potential to be a good game but it flat out isn't at the moment.
    Combat system in Tera though interesting was robotic and clunky.  yes Locking me and anchoring me into spot when I do anything and not allowing me to dodge until any skill has finished = horrible. 
    Questing system in Tera level 1-20 or even 30 was a nightmare and completely ruined any experience I had within the game.
    THE ONLY GOOD THING TERA HAD = Graphics, it was absolutely beautifull and then I experienced GW2 on full graphics in an un optimized beta and deleted TERA forever..
    I've played my share of korean grinders and that is all TERA is with nicer graphics.  Its a grind and a horrible one at that, No differences in the mobs you fight.. As MikeB aka Fony jokes about killing trees over and over and over just with different names.. No thanks.
     
    Tera does NOTHING better then GW2.  absolutely nothing  I've played both and see aboslutely no reason to ever pay a monthly sub for another game so help me god.
     
    There is no comparison because TERA is not a good game, its released unfinished and has a monthly sub + box price.  its not an MMORPG its a MMOGRIND = dated and not worth my time.
     
    Guild wars 2 on the other hand apples to apples nothing compares.  It is similar if you stretch it to compare to other games but it does things so differently or masks things soooo well that it doesn't matter.  Questing / Adventuring / Exploring was extremely rewarding.
     
    I'm a full time gamer and I'm burned out with traditional grindy questy linear crap and as I predicted for myself from the indepth research I did, Guild Wars 2 has and will quinch my thirst.
     
    The only thing that needs fixed in Guild Wars 2 is Party + Over Flow system and Not Full Party Being separated in structured PvP.
     
    Gary Gannon from Game Breaker.com put it perfectly in their last TWIMMO about TERA. Its a rip off and is stealing customers money. But I did find a reason for it, PvP bullys will love it and its ability to allow you to PK anyone at any time and wage war on anyone at any time... Let them have their game and they can have it.  I refuse to pay a box price + sub for another free 2 play korean grind piece of crap.

    I was even alot faster then you to came to conclusion TERA must be removed from my harddisk after 20min becouse it brings nothing new to game its again follow linair path through quest hubs and kill 10x these mobs or deliver a letter to npc b.

    Guild Wars 2 is so much more and so much better its even embarrissing the least if you compare both games.

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  • LordDevilLordDevil Member UncommonPosts: 253

    People are different...

    I can't agree to most of the posts here... in my eyes the combat in Tera is so much better than in GW2 - I guess I can never move back to point and click MMOs. Besides the quest which are truly good in GW2 it doesnt offer anything nice. The PvP for me is completly crappy... I hate instanced PvP! Nothing is better than Open World PvP with politics and drama and not about stupid rankings.

    But well there is something for everyone. But if I count everything together and if I take the awesome graphics of tera (and the so fluid animations and combat feeling with collision detection etc.). All other MMOs just feel so old :)

    Our guild is having a blast in Tera and we will definately skip GW2 for now. Let's see how Teras endgame is... and how long we are hooked there. But it looks like due to the open dynymic of the game it will be much longer than any arena or battleground instance pvp can give us.

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  • PurgatusPurgatus Member Posts: 342

    Originally posted by LordDevil

    People are different...

    I can't agree to most of the posts here... in my eyes the combat in Tera is so much better than in GW2 - I guess I can never move back to point and click MMOs. Besides the quest which are truly good in GW2 it doesnt offer anything nice. The PvP for me is completly crappy... I hate instanced PvP! Nothing is better than Open World PvP with politics and drama and not about stupid rankings.

    But well there is something for everyone. But if I count everything together and if I take the awesome graphics of tera (and the so fluid animations and combat feeling with collision detection etc.). All other MMOs just feel so old :)

    Our guild is having a blast in Tera and we will definately skip GW2 for now. Let's see how Teras endgame is... and how long we are hooked there. But it looks like due to the open dynymic of the game it will be much longer than any arena or battleground instance pvp can give us.

    I hope TERA treats you and your guild-mates well!

    .....but calling GW2's combat point and click combat is misleading and wrong. You CAN point and click, you can also just turn and fight. If you threw on a crosshair it would be the same.

  • The_KorriganThe_Korrigan Member RarePosts: 3,460

    Originally posted by LordDevil

    I can't agree to most of the posts here... in my eyes the combat in Tera is so much better than in GW2 - I guess I can never move back to point and click MMOs.

    The simple fact you are implying GW2 is a "point and click MMO" means you didn't play the game or you are trolling. Yes, I am once again calling a "hater" here a liar. I hope the moderators who actually played this beta week end will see this and see who is lying and who is not. This kind of misinformation just for the sake of bashing a game is just plain sad.

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  • N1njaPwnStarN1njaPwnStar Member Posts: 83
    i had fun playing the beta (gw2) alot more than any other games beta/release in the past few weeks.. so much stuff in gw2 its crazy .. but the WvW is win for me cant wait for the next one!
  • cyress8cyress8 Member Posts: 832

    Originally posted by The_Korrigan

     

    The only way I think someone could prefer Tera to GW2 is if he is into manga style graphics.

    I'm into manga style graphics. :(

    However, no,  I tried last night to play through Tera alittle.  It just bored me.  The only thing that gave a decent challenge was soloing the BAMS and even then some of the boss mobs in GW2 are more challenging.  (One field boss, that gave me hell was one of the ghost captains that kept sucking everyone into melee range and dropping his banner of discipline to increase his crit chance.  If you did not dodge the moment he finished pulling you in he will hit you for half your health or even all if he crits. That bastard sucks so much ass and showed that dodging is freaking crucial.)   Also, I  just mentally shut down on the regular mobs.  I even round them up to give myself a little challenge.   

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