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Why This game will be as successful as SKYRIM and past ES games.
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ah, sorry missed that. Wasn't wearing my reading glasses (really
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Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
I loved the Elder Scrolls games and was looking forward to ESO until i looked I decided to read up the classes, skills etc
For me I'd play a mage or Sorceror as it is in ESO .. Then i see that the thing every Mage wants is no longer :-( .. by that I mean FIREBALLS :-) my Mage in Skyrim had a bit of a problem regarding fire and safety (of others anyway). Most MMO's Mage's main destructive line is always Fire.
Thats been stripped away from what I can see to a Weapon line, Destructive Staff and Mage Abilities is Storm which if anything like Rift .. I didn't like. I wanted a Mage with a sword throwing Fireballs etc now I read that if I actually wanted a character who used fire i'd have to have a Melee character as they were given the Fire abilities and have them weild the staff.
For me i'll wait and see if they change anything
I like the cut of your jib!
Reminds me of my youth. I worked at a construction site AND a bakery (yup, 7 days a week for a summer) so I could buy a new guitar.
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
I am a ES fan but I never ever played any mod of any of the games in the series. I do see what mods can do for a game. Yet never felt tempted to put in mod in the series. I am the same with addons, don't us them, don't need them.
As for you not having any interest in the game. I can only say, you will miss out.
The ones that wil not miss out on the game ar those WoW-Clone players, you know people who shout Wow-clone yet they can not see it's themselfs having a limited playstyle and try to play other games excactly the same way they have played WOW. Because to me there are no WOW-Clone. And I have played/tested/tried allot of MMORPG's and MMO's since Meridian59.
OP: I wil say the game will actually suprise allot of naysayers.
I keep seeing comments on here about how this game is going to be a theme park ride and skyrim wasn't... did these people actually play skyrim?
I mean it might of been open world and left you free to explore but all the main quest lines were pretty linear and most pretty much led to the same outcomes bar a few choices here and there. This game isn't going to be any different in that respect, the only difference between freedom of gameplay is that in this game you wont be able to do bizarre stuff like murder the townsfolk or spawn a dozen trolls to pillage Whiterun.
As for modding, the console versions of Skyrim didn't have mods and look how successful they were. Lack of mods isn't something that's going to kill the game, it will still be a good game.
The only real thing that stands in the way from this being a success is not how the game plays but the payment method.
Highlighted for the lulz.
"People who tell you youre awesome are useless. No, dangerous.
They are worse than useless because you want to believe them. They will defend you against critiques that are valid. They will seduce you into believing you are done learning, or into thinking that your work is better than it actually is." ~Raph Koster
http://www.raphkoster.com/2013/10/14/on-getting-criticism/
I'm not planing on playing ESO but your comment about 15 bucks a month are full of lolz.
If I chose to pay those 15 bucks a month I get a full month worth of entertainment while paying the same amount of money on the movies gives me lets say Hobbit, 3 hours of entertainment.
If it's not broken, you are not innovating.
Actually yes we did play it and no it wasn't themepark locked in.
With a complete open world, the ability to go anywhere at anytime right from the start of the game, not having a single limit to which skills/spells you can use, no limits on crafting skills, a fully mod'able world......its far more sandbox than themepark. Just having a storyline does not make it a themepark game. And yes, actually, being able to kill townsfolk does make it more of a sandbox, especially if you remove the blocks on being able to kill quest givers.
TESO funnels you to each questing area, funnels you to the next "level" zones all leading to the same place, a PvP land existing someplace behind an invisible wall that keeps your homeland safe from a war that is supposed to be gripping the entire world.
"People who tell you youre awesome are useless. No, dangerous.
They are worse than useless because you want to believe them. They will defend you against critiques that are valid. They will seduce you into believing you are done learning, or into thinking that your work is better than it actually is." ~Raph Koster
http://www.raphkoster.com/2013/10/14/on-getting-criticism/
The fact that you think quantity is more important than quality isn't even worth a chuckle. However it does mean TESO could be the game for you.....
"People who tell you youre awesome are useless. No, dangerous.
They are worse than useless because you want to believe them. They will defend you against critiques that are valid. They will seduce you into believing you are done learning, or into thinking that your work is better than it actually is." ~Raph Koster
http://www.raphkoster.com/2013/10/14/on-getting-criticism/
The fact that you seem to believe that your perception of value and quality is greater than others, is sad.
Yes, because most people can totally afford to just drop $400+$60 because they see one game they like *eyeroll*
I think someone is living in a rich world where daddy or mommy pay for everything because hate to break it to you, most people don't have that kind of money.
Smile
as someone who has put 300+ hours into skyrim and still playing it I will not be buying ESO.
it does not feel like an Elder Scrolls game it feels like a generic f2p MMORPG. and as a MMORPG player i will not buying the game for this reason as well, if a game is going to make me pay 15 bucks a month for it ..... the game better be top of the line EVERYTHING. Graphics, Animations, Spell effects, world, armor, weapons
and honestly i didn't see that in ESO.
i love skyrim. but when i see ESO, i saw neverwinter night.
character and world scaled down , its look more cartoon than a real world like skyrim. i guess they had to do so so that they can run it as mmo.
i dont hate EOS, but it not capture me. i hope they done with ESO quick and make ES 6 so i can have something better than skyrim.
As someone who played nearly all mayor mmo's for years , played -all- ES games and had a good try in beta I can say i will buy this game.
yes its a mmo adaptation, not everyting will be ES perfect but they done a damn good job, even if i take it as a plain new mmo whitout any fanboy toward ES its still a damn good mmo. it got its own design, it feels far more Dragon Age meets ES then anywere near Wow.
I cant talk about much ofc, (beta) but this, yes the start is very much -on rails- its a theme park whit lots of typical mmo theme park design. but the further you go into the game the more open it becomes the more interesting it becomes.
I dont expect them to make a bug free game..we all know ES games... but i have not bin this impressed by a mmo (and its still pre-release) since...maybe 10 years?
Some ppl will hate it, others will love it .. I think this be a highly succesfull mmo..and the only thing that can realy mess it up for them would be EQ next. (since they kinda go for the same player base) wildstar wont even be competition, those who will hate ESO will be WS fans and those who hate WS probaly will love ESO
So after all of the above can you explain to me what makes ESO next gen?
I'm a beta tester since august 2013, i do think that it will be console players that make up most of the subs though.
It's a decent average mmo with an IP that won't allow it to fail.
If people watch what the dev team says and follows the progress of the game, and matches it up with the timeline of SKYRIM, and the history of ES games I think its very Obvious that this will be a SKYRIM ONLINE game, I don't understand why people haven't noticed this yet. I think when devs say it WILL be a SKYRIM online, they find it easier to say that persons a liar, instead of having one thing I find you can do with all ES games, HAVE TRUST in a game history that has never lied to you before, for OVER 10 YEARS. Instead, we find people who have been locked up in solitary too long who start to overthink things and make deal breakers that seem almost insignificant to the entire reason we loved all the good things in SKYRIM that will now be put into a SKYRIM ONLINE game. Its a game RPG die hard fans have been waiting for since the release of SKYRIM in an Online game.
Skyrim, heck all ES games are not sandbox games. They are non-linear themepark games. All the rides are there for me to ride, I can just ride them in any order I want to.
The fact that you are taking me saying "I wont pay $15 unless I get my $15 worth out of it" as "it isn't worth it for everyone" isn't even worthy of being called sad.
"People who tell you youre awesome are useless. No, dangerous.
They are worse than useless because you want to believe them. They will defend you against critiques that are valid. They will seduce you into believing you are done learning, or into thinking that your work is better than it actually is." ~Raph Koster
http://www.raphkoster.com/2013/10/14/on-getting-criticism/
Just stop, you have no clue what you're talking about
I pretty much just say it as I see it. These last few pages and your posts, seem to have been nothing but statements about what's valuable and how people are dummies for doing this and that. It's all fine that you think it's not valuable. Others might. No need to force it down others throats.
People who think ES games are sandbox games have no clue what they are talking about.
Which single player rpg games do you describe as a sandbox games ?
By the way on youtube recently some players did upload videos about the gameplay, wonder how long they will be visible until bethesda will delete them.
I think as far as skyrim goes, You do the first part of the game and kinda choose you faction. They then have the rebellion path, or the empire path you can take. Or you can choose NOT to be EITHER. You can run around the game and do every single thing in the game and it WILL NOT affect the TIMELINE of the MAIN STORY. I personally would call that sandbox, because you can do anything you want, indefinatly with no timeline consequences. Others may have a different opinion on what a sandbox is, but for the most part I think doing what ever you want and not be forced to progress through Only one way would be Sandbox in my eyes. What do you think?
I had bought the Prima Guide on Steam for Skyrim and it says in there also that you can do basicly anything you want after the town, but its advised to progress a few quests down till you get the Dragon Voice. About a few hours worth of work to get the ability. So read into that how you will. I think there will always be a few mandatory goals in every game, including sandbox's, but for the most part I think this is a true sandbox from a lot of peoples point of view. Which is another reason I think so many found SKYRIM to be amazingly great, and a key feature of the game one I truly think will be carried over to ESO because of how foundational it is and was to SKYRIM, after all the key features have to be in a game any dev would call SKYRIM ONLINE.