Well I don't know. If that is the argument well ... when AMD R9 290X originally launched it had so much hype around it that AMD claimed it sold out globally like a hot bread. I had to wait 2 months to get it stocked in my country and I bought one of the > 3 < available.
Later it turned out that AMD didn't manufacture much in the first place and the bitcoin miners were purchasing the little available devices.
It became so bad that they increased the prices with 100$ to make it less of a deal for them.
In the end though it turns out that AMD didn't sell as much 290Xes as it appeared.
Would love to see the numbers in say 9-12 months for the launch period alone, and not accumulated sales for the whole first year
My prediction? Oculus VR is the first consumer available product for VR. A bunch of celebrities, politicians and business men with connections called in and jumped the line to be 'first.' Also a bunch of media that normally doesn't look into gaming called at the last minute to get 'review' products. The consumers being commoners must wait until the specials get theirs first.
Crap like this happens all the time. Especially when you're talking about such high demand and limited quantity. It's a status symbol right now.
Not buying their faulty part B.S. The details are very sketchy for a reason. When you are lying to the mass people you want to keep as little information as possible and keep it vague.
Regardless, there's no denying that there's incredibly high interest for the tech.
How that all plays out remains to be seen.
does that mean that next years sales numbers will be lower than expected?
and what predictions did you make about VR 9-12 months ago. I would be curious to know
personally my prediction is that in the article I linked Palmer Lucky was not liying
If VR is doing well and has killer apps, it will sell incredibly well next year. Word of mouth will be the greatest promotion for new tech. How do you think Blackberry died so quickly when the smart phone was introduced? Microsoft said it would fail. People said that users wanted tactile interface with the buttons. They were all wrong. People saw other people with the phones and said "I want that."
The difference here is that we are talking about completely new tech and there's only a limited supply of these products. So the social elite and press will get first dibs. Everyone else must wait. But they're not going to tell you that. They're going to make up a B.S. story for the delay. The interest for VR is greater than anyone in the industry has anticipated. Every major TV network, entertainment delivery service and game development company wants access and the product... now. Not later. Look at Gamescom this year. Their VR show had more interest than the regular show itself. They had to move almost all the VR panels to the larger rooms to accommodate the insane demand.
Now looking at all that, it's pretty hard NOT to think who's getting those things and who's not.
The truth is the common man is not the priority. They would never tell you that because people would cancel their order and go to the competitor. They know that.
I say: He talks like a politician. As in what he says means shit either way.
Of course he's lying. When you're going to lie you keep it vague as possible to people can't call you on it. You also say as little as possible. Oculus' communication on this matter has been horrendous. Absolutely frickin horrendous. Pretty funny how they said how important it was for people to have a good positive first impression of VR.
Oh well another few months for the pleebs. Pay attention to social media the next few weeks and see who gets their VRs first. I'm guessing industry heads, media outlets, celebrities, politicians (for their families,) business insiders, and other game developers ('possible future partners')
All I can say is something stinks at Oculus. When you cannot even fulfil your kickstarter orders on time, especially when you have released the product to the general public. It tells me you're either incompetent, untruthful, for example releasing a product to the public just to be the first when the product was not ready or as a couple of other posts have mentioned Oculus are sticking two fingers up at their kickstarter backers and the general public by allowing certain sectors to jump the queue to gain PR brownie points.
My prediction? Oculus VR is the first consumer available product for VR. A bunch of celebrities, politicians and business men with connections called in and jumped the line to be 'first.' Also a bunch of media that normally doesn't look into gaming called at the last minute to get 'review' products. The consumers being commoners must wait until the specials get theirs first.
Crap like this happens all the time. Especially when you're talking about such high demand and limited quantity. It's a status symbol right now.
Not buying their faulty part B.S. The details are very sketchy for a reason. When you are lying to the mass people you want to keep as little information as possible and keep it vague.
Regardless, there's no denying that there's incredibly high interest for the tech.
How that all plays out remains to be seen.
does that mean that next years sales numbers will be lower than expected?
and what predictions did you make about VR 9-12 months ago. I would be curious to know
personally my prediction is that in the article I linked Palmer Lucky was not liying
If VR is doing well and has killer apps, it will sell incredibly well next year. Word of mouth will be the greatest promotion for new tech.
Very sweet.
it just would have been a lot easier for me had I known a year ago that all this negativity was really just toward Oculus. It all makes a lot more sense now.
thanks, I look forward to the sales numbers when they come out more so they I am looking forward to my Oculus headset. regardless of which headset you select I am glad to hear what I am hearing.
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
@SEANMCAD hasn't really provided any prediction number.
He agrees with Palmer Lucky in a linked article, in which Palmer says the sold faster than expected.
But no sales numbers. No produciton numbers. Just "10 minutes" and "few hours"
Just making sure I have this correct here, you know, so in 9-12 months we can come back and see exactly what @SEANMCAD ;told all of us.
EXACTLY!
I havent provided any numbers or for that matter really any predictions. .
many of you are suggesting that lucky is saying is a lie based on zero logic, zero evidence and frankly some of the most bizzare logic I have ever read. I am just saying I suspect what he is saying is true on its pure face value no lie, no obfuscation or otherwise.
however, I dont care either way, but I am looking forward to the sales numbers to come out which I suspect would come out in a full 12 month cycle.
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
@SEANMCAD hasn't really provided any prediction number.
He agrees with Palmer Lucky in a linked article, in which Palmer says the sold faster than expected.
But no sales numbers. No produciton numbers. Just "10 minutes" and "few hours"
Just making sure I have this correct here, you know, so in 9-12 months we can come back and see exactly what @SEANMCAD ;told all of us.
EXACTLY!
I havent provided any numbers or for that matter really any predictions. .
many of you are suggesting that lucky is saying is a lie based on zero logic, zero evidence and frankly some of the most bizzare logic I have ever read. I am just saying I suspect what he is saying is true on its pure face value no lie, no obfuscation or otherwise.
however, I dont care either way, but I am looking forward to the sales numbers to come out which I suspect would come out in a full 12 month cycle.
So, it's selling "great", but you have no idea what great is.
And in 9-12 months, no matter what the number is, it'll be "great", and you will have "called it".
cant wait for those sales numbers so everyone can tell me how wrong I am
And no one is lying, because no one is actually saying anything. It's all obfuscated feelings, and no hard data. But you have no problem making statements that really need some hard data to back them up.
Sounds like it's running about par for one of your shill-laden hijacked threads. You've got nothing to back up your claim but you keep spewing more garbage. You're either getting paid by Occulus, or your a career politician.
@SEANMCAD hasn't really provided any prediction number.
He agrees with Palmer Lucky in a linked article, in which Palmer says the sold faster than expected.
But no sales numbers. No produciton numbers. Just "10 minutes" and "few hours"
Just making sure I have this correct here, you know, so in 9-12 months we can come back and see exactly what @SEANMCAD ;told all of us.
EXACTLY!
I havent provided any numbers or for that matter really any predictions. .
many of you are suggesting that lucky is saying is a lie based on zero logic, zero evidence and frankly some of the most bizzare logic I have ever read. I am just saying I suspect what he is saying is true on its pure face value no lie, no obfuscation or otherwise.
however, I dont care either way, but I am looking forward to the sales numbers to come out which I suspect would come out in a full 12 month cycle.
So, it's selling "great", but you have no idea what great is.
And in 9-12 months, no matter what the number is, it'll be "great", and you will have "called it".
And no one is lying, because no one is actually saying anything. It's all obfuscated feelings, and no hard data.
Sounds like it's running about par for one of your shill-laden hijacked threads. You've got nothing to back up your claim but you keep spewing more garbage. You're either getting paid by Occulus, or your a career politician.
I dont think you have been following along here.
Someone basically said the following: 'they clearly estimated below reasonable expectations based on their own past sales figures'
what I would like to know is how in the flying F did someone come up with that?
here is my 'guess' based on 'evidence'
'they have experience selling these things, they know the past numbers of sells they have made, they likely made at least base level expection predictions based on passed sells, so its likely that the 'expectation' was around 50,000'
Do I know? no I dont. Do you know? no you dont. so what do we do...? what I DO know however is that the LOWEST sell out numbers we have is 50,000. So that is a conservative guess
its called AN EDUCATED GUESS VS PULLING SOMETHING RANDOM.
now...sales number WILL likely be coming out within 12 months and at that point we can have a better indication as to whose educated guess was better
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Option 2: Lucky is not lying but they didn't bother to look at their own past sales numbers to build a baseline estimate
Option 3: They most likely estimated a number that is around the same numbers as their passed sales figures which for the DK1 I think was around 50,000. If I was in charge I would would estimated around 100,000
Option 4: People just hate oculus because it was started by an 18 year old and crowdfunding
to me, option 3 seems the least bizarrely random. and I think at a very baseline 'sold more than expected and the expected number wasnt completely asine low' is a pretty safe assumption
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
And is it a "guess" or do "you know ... that the lowest sellout number if 50,000"
Those are two entirely different things, but you say both of them. It's one or the other. A guess, or a factual number.
1. the source is wikipedia. 2. you are not understanding my position. My position is ONLY this: That Palmer Lucky likely is not lying and that the 'expected number' is likely around 50,000 if not more based on past sales 3. Other peoples position is that he is either lying, not liying but 'clearly' using a number that is far below any of their previous sales figures because of reasons and nothing else.
how many times to I have to keep saying this?
I THINK you are missing keywords in this like 'likely' because unlike some here I am not saying these are facts, I am saying they are educated guesses
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
I think keywords like "likely" are a cop out because you don't ever want to be wrong about something.
You keep saying lots of words, but none of them really mean anything. That's probably why we don't understand your position - you don't actually have a position on anything - just a lot of "likely". And if anyone brings real data to your knife fight, you just conveniently ignore it. And randomly say "Called it" whenever you need an ego boost, I think.
I think keywords like "likely" are a cop out because you don't ever want to be wrong about something.
You keep saying lots of words, but none of them really mean anything. That's probably why we don't understand your position - you don't actually have a position on anything - just a lot of "likely". And if anyone brings real data to your knife fight, you just conveniently ignore it. And randomly say "Called it" whenever you need an ego boost, I think.
I am saying 'likely' based on evidence.
your buddies are saying 'is' based on no evidence and contradictory logic to the evidence that we do have.
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
No, you aren't saying anything at all. And that's what me and my "buddies" keep saying. I'm not claiming anything about the industry in this post, except that "they" (being all the collective VR manufacturers to date) have collectively bungled their launches. With regards to sales numbers - because I have no idea, I'll admit that. And I've never claimed otherwise.
You just keep throwing around the same jargon and BS, but no facts and no substance. But lo, you want to be right about something... you just don't know what it is.
It's so easy to "call it" when you don't really say anything in the first place, isn't it. Isn't that what fortune tellers do... "I sense... great promise in your future, but beware, a danger lurks in the shadow". That fortune teller called it too.
Lets say you sold 100 units and you manufactured 100 units. You split the components across several suppliers. You provided them with the specs required to make the components. They agreed to meet a specific delivery timeframe that you required. Push come to shove, one of your suppliers was either unable to meet the delivery timeframe or the components they manufactured had defects or the tolerances provided in the specs allowed for the components to become out-of-spec once assembled. The lead time required to manufacture said components means that they can't just magically choose another supplier to acquire said items in time nor can they remanufacture the components by their delivery timeframe.
Not being able to meet even the earliest purchasers delivery date suggests that there is a problem that does not revolve around demand being greater than supply. Something went wrong... and not in a good way.
No, you aren't saying anything at all. And that's what me and my "buddies" keep saying. I'm not claiming anything about the industry in this post, except that "they" (being all the collective VR manufacturers to date) have collectively bungled their launches. With regards to sales numbers - because I have no idea, I'll admit that. And I've never claimed otherwise.
You just keep throwing around the same jargon and BS, but no facts and no substance. But lo, you want to be right about something... you just don't know what it is.
It's so easy to "call it" when you don't really say anything in the first place, isn't it. Isn't that what fortune tellers do... "I sense... great promise in your future, but beware, a danger lurks in the shadow". That fortune teller called it too.
of course I am 'not saying anything at all, while your buddies are stating facts based on zero evidence and inverse logic based on what is known'.
stop being so transparent
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Not being able to meet even the earliest purchasers delivery date suggests that there is a problem that does not revolve around demand being greater than supply. Something went wrong... and not in a good way.
that is very much incorrect. The problem can be EITHER supply or demand and the chance that demand actually is larger then they expected which is what they said could very well be true.
The good news is that we will likely find out the exact numbers within 12 months and then we can know for sure.
In the meantime you and your buddies could just collect old PC magazines from the 90s looking for adds for Virtual Boy to pass the time
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Not being able to meet even the earliest purchasers delivery date suggests that there is a problem that does not revolve around demand being greater than supply. Something went wrong... and not in a good way.
that is very much incorrect. The problem can be EITHER supply or demand and the chance that demand actually is larger then they expected which is what they said could very well be true.
The good news is that we will likely find out the exact numbers within 12 months and then we can know for sure.
In the meantime you and your buddies could just collect old PC magazines from the 90s looking for adds for Virtual Boy to pass the time
Pepeq's comment is very "likely" IMHO probably in the 80% range of "Probability"
The price jump from $350 to $600 supports his theory.
Not being able to meet even the earliest purchasers delivery date suggests that there is a problem that does not revolve around demand being greater than supply. Something went wrong... and not in a good way.
that is very much incorrect. The problem can be EITHER supply or demand and the chance that demand actually is larger then they expected which is what they said could very well be true.
The good news is that we will likely find out the exact numbers within 12 months and then we can know for sure.
In the meantime you and your buddies could just collect old PC magazines from the 90s looking for adds for Virtual Boy to pass the time
Pepeq's comment is very "likely" IMHO probably in the 80% range of "Probability"
The price jump from $350 to $600 supports his theory.
I think you guys are really really going to need to work on this.
its a good idea to stop stating things as facts and then jump on someone for 'not knowing the fact' even when they explicitly use the word 'likely' but your buddies dont.
Here is the problem you face:
Option 1: Lucky is not liying
Option 2: Lucky is liying but there is zero evidence at all to even remotely suggest that he might be liying.
I am going with option 1, until we get more information which I am sure will come within 12 months
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Not being able to meet even the earliest purchasers delivery date suggests that there is a problem that does not revolve around demand being greater than supply. Something went wrong... and not in a good way.
that is very much incorrect. The problem can be EITHER supply or demand and the chance that demand actually is larger then they expected which is what they said could very well be true.
The good news is that we will likely find out the exact numbers within 12 months and then we can know for sure.
In the meantime you and your buddies could just collect old PC magazines from the 90s looking for adds for Virtual Boy to pass the time
Pepeq's comment is very "likely" IMHO probably in the 80% range of "Probability"
The price jump from $350 to $600 supports his theory.
I think you guys are really really going to need to work on this.
its a good idea to stop stating things as facts and then jump on someone for 'not knowing the fact' even when they explicitly use the word 'likely' but your buddies dont.
Here is the problem you face:
Option 1: Lucky is not liying
Option 2: Lucky is liying but there is zero evidence at all to even remotely suggest that he might be liying.
I am going with option 1, until we get more information which I am sure will come within 12 months
LMAO Sorry... I didn't realize that "IMHO" "Probability" and "theory" were facts
Not being able to meet even the earliest purchasers delivery date suggests that there is a problem that does not revolve around demand being greater than supply. Something went wrong... and not in a good way.
that is very much incorrect. The problem can be EITHER supply or demand and the chance that demand actually is larger then they expected which is what they said could very well be true.
The good news is that we will likely find out the exact numbers within 12 months and then we can know for sure.
In the meantime you and your buddies could just collect old PC magazines from the 90s looking for adds for Virtual Boy to pass the time
Pepeq's comment is very "likely" IMHO probably in the 80% range of "Probability"
The price jump from $350 to $600 supports his theory.
I think you guys are really really going to need to work on this.
its a good idea to stop stating things as facts and then jump on someone for 'not knowing the fact' even when they explicitly use the word 'likely' but your buddies dont.
Here is the problem you face:
Option 1: Lucky is not liying
Option 2: Lucky is liying but there is zero evidence at all to even remotely suggest that he might be liying.
I am going with option 1, until we get more information which I am sure will come within 12 months
LMAO Sorry... I didn't realize that "IMHO" "Probability" and "theory" were facts
let me illustrate
Me: 'I think its likely that Lukcy is not liying'
Your Buddies: 'its clear he is liying and its clear that the problem is in supply. its obvious so lets jump on Sean_MCAD for not having the facts.'
really? seriously? are you even aware of this?
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Not being able to meet even the earliest purchasers delivery date suggests that there is a problem that does not revolve around demand being greater than supply. Something went wrong... and not in a good way.
that is very much incorrect. The problem can be EITHER supply or demand and the chance that demand actually is larger then they expected which is what they said could very well be true.
The good news is that we will likely find out the exact numbers within 12 months and then we can know for sure.
In the meantime you and your buddies could just collect old PC magazines from the 90s looking for adds for Virtual Boy to pass the time
Pepeq's comment is very "likely" IMHO probably in the 80% range of "Probability"
The price jump from $350 to $600 supports his theory.
I think you guys are really really going to need to work on this.
its a good idea to stop stating things as facts and then jump on someone for 'not knowing the fact' even when they explicitly use the word 'likely' but your buddies dont.
Here is the problem you face:
Option 1: Lucky is not liying
Option 2: Lucky is liying but there is zero evidence at all to even remotely suggest that he might be liying.
I am going with option 1, until we get more information which I am sure will come within 12 months
LMAO Sorry... I didn't realize that "IMHO" "Probability" and "theory" were facts
let me illustrate
Me: 'I think its likely that Lukcy is not liying'
Your Buddies: 'its clear he is liying and its clear that the problem is in supply. its obvious so lets jump on Sean_MCAD for not having the facts.'
really? seriously? are you even aware of this?
You should maybe study the english language a little bit more.
What you're detractors are saying is that how Mr Luckey is saying what he's saying it could be interpreted in many different ways. No one could ever accuse him of lying because he really said "Nothing"
You should maybe study the english language a little bit more.
What you're detractors are saying is that how Mr Luckey is saying what he's saying it could be interpreted in many different ways. No one could ever accuse him of lying because he really said "Nothing"
no actually its actually as I wrote it. The only problem is they literally have zero evidence at all whatsoever of any kind at all even a little kinda small at all whatsoever in any form or any reasonable logic that doesnt sound like its from mars that would lead them to think that maybe he is liying. I however have some to suggest that he is not liying
Me: 'I think its likely that Lukcy is not liying'
Your Buddies: 'its clear he is liying and its clear that the problem is in supply. its obvious so lets jump on Sean_MCAD for not having the facts.'
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
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Later it turned out that AMD didn't manufacture much in the first place and the bitcoin miners were purchasing the little available devices.
It became so bad that they increased the prices with 100$ to make it less of a deal for them.
In the end though it turns out that AMD didn't sell as much 290Xes as it appeared.
Would love to see the numbers in say 9-12 months for the launch period alone, and not accumulated sales for the whole first year
If VR is doing well and has killer apps, it will sell incredibly well next year. Word of mouth will be the greatest promotion for new tech. How do you think Blackberry died so quickly when the smart phone was introduced? Microsoft said it would fail. People said that users wanted tactile interface with the buttons. They were all wrong. People saw other people with the phones and said "I want that."
The difference here is that we are talking about completely new tech and there's only a limited supply of these products. So the social elite and press will get first dibs. Everyone else must wait. But they're not going to tell you that. They're going to make up a B.S. story for the delay. The interest for VR is greater than anyone in the industry has anticipated. Every major TV network, entertainment delivery service and game development company wants access and the product... now. Not later. Look at Gamescom this year. Their VR show had more interest than the regular show itself. They had to move almost all the VR panels to the larger rooms to accommodate the insane demand.
Now looking at all that, it's pretty hard NOT to think who's getting those things and who's not.
The truth is the common man is not the priority. They would never tell you that because people would cancel their order and go to the competitor. They know that.
Oh well another few months for the pleebs. Pay attention to social media the next few weeks and see who gets their VRs first. I'm guessing industry heads, media outlets, celebrities, politicians (for their families,) business insiders, and other game developers ('possible future partners')
it just would have been a lot easier for me had I known a year ago that all this negativity was really just toward Oculus. It all makes a lot more sense now.
thanks, I look forward to the sales numbers when they come out more so they I am looking forward to my Oculus headset. regardless of which headset you select I am glad to hear what I am hearing.
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
EXACTLY!
I havent provided any numbers or for that matter really any predictions. .
many of you are suggesting that lucky is saying is a lie based on zero logic, zero evidence and frankly some of the most bizzare logic I have ever read. I am just saying I suspect what he is saying is true on its pure face value no lie, no obfuscation or otherwise.
however, I dont care either way, but I am looking forward to the sales numbers to come out which I suspect would come out in a full 12 month cycle.
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
And in 9-12 months, no matter what the number is, it'll be "great", and you will have "called it".
And no one is lying, because no one is actually saying anything. It's all obfuscated feelings, and no hard data. But you have no problem making statements that really need some hard data to back them up.
Sounds like it's running about par for one of your shill-laden hijacked threads. You've got nothing to back up your claim but you keep spewing more garbage. You're either getting paid by Occulus, or your a career politician.
Someone basically said the following:
'they clearly estimated below reasonable expectations based on their own past sales figures'
what I would like to know is how in the flying F did someone come up with that?
here is my 'guess' based on 'evidence'
'they have experience selling these things, they know the past numbers of sells they have made, they likely made at least base level expection predictions based on passed sells, so its likely that the 'expectation' was around 50,000' Do I know? no I dont. Do you know? no you dont. so what do we do...?
what I DO know however is that the LOWEST sell out numbers we have is 50,000. So that is a conservative guess
its called AN EDUCATED GUESS VS PULLING SOMETHING RANDOM.
now...sales number WILL likely be coming out within 12 months and at that point we can have a better indication as to whose educated guess was better
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
Option 1: Lucky is flat out liying
Option 2: Lucky is not lying but they didn't bother to look at their own past sales numbers to build a baseline estimate
Option 3: They most likely estimated a number that is around the same numbers as their passed sales figures which for the DK1 I think was around 50,000. If I was in charge I would would estimated around 100,000
Option 4: People just hate oculus because it was started by an 18 year old and crowdfunding
to me, option 3 seems the least bizarrely random.
and I think at a very baseline 'sold more than expected and the expected number wasnt completely asine low' is a pretty safe assumption
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
And is it a "guess" or do "you know ... that the lowest sellout number if 50,000"
Those are two entirely different things, but you say both of them. It's one or the other. A guess, or a factual number.
1. the source is wikipedia.
2. you are not understanding my position. My position is ONLY this: That Palmer Lucky likely is not lying and that the 'expected number' is likely around 50,000 if not more based on past sales
3. Other peoples position is that he is either lying, not liying but 'clearly' using a number that is far below any of their previous sales figures because of reasons and nothing else.
how many times to I have to keep saying this?
I THINK you are missing keywords in this like 'likely' because unlike some here I am not saying these are facts, I am saying they are educated guesses
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
You keep saying lots of words, but none of them really mean anything. That's probably why we don't understand your position - you don't actually have a position on anything - just a lot of "likely". And if anyone brings real data to your knife fight, you just conveniently ignore it. And randomly say "Called it" whenever you need an ego boost, I think.
your buddies are saying 'is' based on no evidence and contradictory logic to the evidence that we do have.
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
You just keep throwing around the same jargon and BS, but no facts and no substance. But lo, you want to be right about something... you just don't know what it is.
It's so easy to "call it" when you don't really say anything in the first place, isn't it. Isn't that what fortune tellers do... "I sense... great promise in your future, but beware, a danger lurks in the shadow". That fortune teller called it too.
Not being able to meet even the earliest purchasers delivery date suggests that there is a problem that does not revolve around demand being greater than supply. Something went wrong... and not in a good way.
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
The problem can be EITHER supply or demand and the chance that demand actually is larger then they expected which is what they said could very well be true.
The good news is that we will likely find out the exact numbers within 12 months and then we can know for sure.
In the meantime you and your buddies could just collect old PC magazines from the 90s looking for adds for Virtual Boy to pass the time
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
The price jump from $350 to $600 supports his theory.
"Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee
its a good idea to stop stating things as facts and then jump on someone for 'not knowing the fact' even when they explicitly use the word 'likely' but your buddies dont.
Here is the problem you face:
Option 1: Lucky is not liying
Option 2: Lucky is liying but there is zero evidence at all to even remotely suggest that he might be liying.
I am going with option 1, until we get more information which I am sure will come within 12 months
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
"Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee
Me:
'I think its likely that Lukcy is not liying'
Your Buddies:
'its clear he is liying and its clear that the problem is in supply. its obvious so lets jump on Sean_MCAD for not having the facts.'
really? seriously? are you even aware of this?
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
What you're detractors are saying is that how Mr Luckey is saying what he's saying it could be interpreted in many different ways. No one could ever accuse him of lying because he really said "Nothing"
"Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee
The only problem is they literally have zero evidence at all whatsoever of any kind at all even a little kinda small at all whatsoever in any form or any reasonable logic that doesnt sound like its from mars that would lead them to think that maybe he is liying. I however have some to suggest that he is not liying
Me:
'I think its likely that Lukcy is not liying'
Your Buddies:
'its clear he is liying and its clear that the problem is in supply. its obvious so lets jump on Sean_MCAD for not having the facts.'
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
"Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee