[...] Frodo takies on the Ringwraths on Weathertop.and gets stabbed for his trouble
Pippin stands up to Denethor after he goes madand tries to kill everyone
the entirepopulation of the shire rises up and stage a revolution killing both Wormtongue and Saruman..
Nope, he said specifically that it is based on PJ alone. I'm pretty sure when red your list he was like: "lol, everyone knows Saruman died in Orthanc, while singing the Trololo song, Frodo was saved by Arwen and Denethor did the stage-dive from the top of Minas Tirith without any hobbit help, I saw it in the movies"
That's what you get when movies become the primary source, and filmmakers rewriting the original source left and right, at their whim. (*)
There's a solution for OP though, which is kinda sad on the other hand, we had some really good laughs on this video since it's up, because it covers totally obvious elements as "false fact you've always believed". I know a guy who even wrote a mock article about who on earth believed those, and called it a totally made-up list. Well, based on the OP it seems those people are exists, and they think PJ is == LotR.
So, OP, if you don't want to read, not even some wikis or summaries, here's a video for you, it will take only a minute for your life since the first point is the hobbits: https://youtu.be/1g75laLtd_k (and I apologise to the rest of the posters for dropping such a video here, I know nobody believed those stuff listed in it as false facts... )
*edit: don't get me wrong, the movies are ok, and I don't have much grudge against PJ either (actually before LotR I was a huge PJ fan... post-LotR, it's more toned down especially after the butchering of Hobbit.), I can accept that movie narrative works differently (we had some nice discussions about this topic during the LotR course). It's more like a generations issue, I think, this whole "movie-only" approach. As it was stated above by others, if a book is good enough to make a movie from it, then the movie would be just an extension to the book, and not the "main dish". Even if the movie is better - in rare cases it is also a possibility.
in WoW, gnomes are still a parody race. They're portrayed as highly friendly/social/cheerful, masters of engineering...basically the crazy awkward "different" race from the others.
And I think chua is their inverse parody, from ex-wow developers highly unfriendly / antisocial / maniac laughters - but still, masters of engineering, that part remained. https://youtu.be/6t0mgu0_i3c Not a huge Wildstar fan here, but loved those lead-in videos (had my fair share of gametime though)
My brother had a gnome monk in EQ2 just because of how funny it looked when she would be using primarily melee to kill things much bigger...
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If you study literature and the history of legends, you'll learn about several types of heroes. One type is, a common person, or even less important than a common person, or someone small in size, to defeat the ultimate evil. Examples are David and the Goliath, Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, etc. This is where hobbits come from. They weren't supposed to be bad ass. That's the whole point.
You are comparing DAVID from david vs goliath to a hobbit?! David didnt walk out there whimpering with his slingshot and then cry and hug with a o so bitch look on his face after he saved the day, cmon man. And Harry potter?!!!! He was a child for christs sake and top of that he still had way more balls and courage then any of the hobbits. Terrible examples
No David wandered no closer than thirty yards from the shambling half blind disabled guy and took him down with a highly lethal ranged weapon at a distance that the disabled guy probably couldn't see him, never mind defend himself with his melee weapon.
As for the hobbits nearly everyone and everything thing is at least twice their size, but time and time again they face them down. Even though they are farmers from a peaceful settlement where little or no violence occurs. Despite the hardships of an immense wilderness journey time and time again they cheerfully carry on in the face of adversity. Courage? They had it in enormous quantity.
Well i am not going to be able to continue to respond as i had no idea some would be so personally offended by this post. From being called a child to comparing sam & frodo's adventure to real life US serviceman (which i have the highest respect for). At the end of the day this is just my opinion and as one other person said maybe im just old fashioned. This was suppose to be a fun little thread to have some laughs in not something where people were going to get emotionally wounded by my comments lol Not my intention.
Just remember these are FICTIONAL Characters we are talking about...... No need to bring real life into this discussion.
I find this thread hilarious. From the cringe inducing pictures the OP keeps posting to the zealot like responses and answers from Tolkiens loyal defenders. Lighten up all, its just a couple of books (and I have studied English Literature at Uni).
Also, Hobbits are gay
/Cheers, Lahnmir
'the only way he could nail it any better is if he used a cross.'
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
I find this thread hilarious. From the cringe inducing pictures the OP keeps posting to the zealot like responses and answers from Tolkiens loyal defenders. Lighten up all, its just a couple of books (and I have studied English Literature at Uni).
Also, Hobbits are gay
/Cheers, Lahnmir
"A theory that homophobia is a result of latent homosexuality was put forth in the late 20th century. A 1996 study conducted at the University of Georgia by Henry Adams, Lester Wright Jr., and Bethany Lohr[1] indicates that a number of homophobic males exhibit latent homosexuality"
Just saying...
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I find this thread hilarious. From the cringe inducing pictures the OP keeps posting to the zealot like responses and answers from Tolkiens loyal defenders. Lighten up all, its just a couple of books (and I have studied English Literature at Uni).
Also, Hobbits are gay
/Cheers, Lahnmir
Four books, plus a couple of extra collections if you count in the extra material Peter Jackson folded into the movies. Of course you could count it as two if you regard splitting Lord of the Rings into a trilogy as the publisher's decision and not J.R.R. Tolkien's.
I understand where you guys are coming from and it sounds like you are huge Tolkien fans which is fine. Maybe i just "Don't get it" which is fine as well. For me though, The whole vibe of the hobbits made the movies borderline impossible to watch, Like i said their weakness was nauseating to watch . Maybe it was the acting of Elijah Wood & Sean Austin that turned me off, cause i felt the bilbo baggins newer movies with martin freeman acting were a bit better, He wasn't a total bitch.
Um...
I guess I get where you are coming from? I knew a high school football coach in real life who was of the same opinion. He was a reasonably intelligent bro, he may have even read the trilogy. I'm sure there are fans of Tolkien's works that feel the same as you toward the movies.
That stated, read The Hobbit and then Lord of the Rings. Read it... "in a hole in the ground there lived a hobbit..."
Get a book on tape... something. You are anonymously embarrassing yourself on the internet.
In Tolkien's fantasy, Hobbits are an analog to civilians during the great war. They have no martial training and yet due to circumstance are required to accomplish great feats of bravery because of a rapidly changing world.
Consider that before Peter Jackson's masterpiece, the one notable film adaptation of LOTR was a rotoscoped incomplete animated feature:
Peter Jackson did a much better job in my opinion, thankfully in part because he had studio backing for three films. I believe he loved Tolkien's world so much he made The Hobbit into three movies when one would have been a faithful, balanced translation. Lord of the Rings should have been nine movies to match the quantity of material PJ got from The Hobbit.
Getting back to Frodo; a couple things: he has to carry Bilbo's legacy, and he also must rely both on The Fellowship and his companion Sam. In interviews the actors compare the relationship between Sam and Frodo to the relationship between a captain and first lieutenant during WWI, or something like that.
The films also attempted to compensate for one of the criticisms of Tolkien's work; that there are not enough strong female roles. Some things in the book that Frodo gets to do are given to characters like Arwen (who plays a very minor part in the books - I could be wrong but I don't recall her even showing up until Return of the King). Even so, some film critics of the time said women are 'part of the film's subconscious '.
All stated, LoTR and The Hobbit are my favorite collection of films, even above Star Wars, in no small part because Tolkien's passion finally got the sensible Hollywood treatment I had been waiting for since first finishing the books at age 10 or so.
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I find this thread hilarious. From the cringe inducing pictures the OP keeps posting to the zealot like responses and answers from Tolkiens loyal defenders. Lighten up all, its just a couple of books (and I have studied English Literature at Uni).
Also, Hobbits are gay
/Cheers, Lahnmir
"A theory that homophobia is a result of latent homosexuality was put forth in the late 20th century. A 1996 study conducted at the University of Georgia by Henry Adams, Lester Wright Jr., and Bethany Lohr[1] indicates that a number of homophobic males exhibit latent homosexuality"
Just saying...
Homophobia has got absolutely nothing to do with this, I'm even slightly offended that you might be comsidering me as such a person. I couldn't care less about anyones sexual preferences, except for hobbits ofcourse.
/Cheers, Lahnmir
'the only way he could nail it any better is if he used a cross.'
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
I find this thread hilarious. From the cringe inducing pictures the OP keeps posting to the zealot like responses and answers from Tolkiens loyal defenders. Lighten up all, its just a couple of books (and I have studied English Literature at Uni).
Also, Hobbits are gay
/Cheers, Lahnmir
Four books, plus a couple of extra collections if you count in the extra material Peter Jackson folded into the movies. Of course you could count it as two if you regard splitting Lord of the Rings into a trilogy as the publisher's decision and not J.R.R. Tolkien's.
I know, I read them too. Like I said, just a couple of books. Just like Dune, or Game of Thrones, or the Discworld series dor that matter
/Cheers, Lahnmir
'the only way he could nail it any better is if he used a cross.'
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
Well i am not going to be able to continue to respond as i had no idea some would be so personally offended by this post. From being called a child to comparing sam & frodo's adventure to real life US serviceman (which i have the highest respect for). At the end of the day this is just my opinion and as one other person said maybe im just old fashioned. This was suppose to be a fun little thread to have some laughs in not something where people were going to get emotionally wounded by my comments lol Not my intention.
Just remember these are FICTIONAL Characters we are talking about...... No need to bring real life into this discussion.
Okay, but you should understand Middle Earth owes its origins in no small part due to Tolkien's WWI experiences:
"The simple is the seal of the true and beauty is the splendor of truth" -Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar Authored 139 missions in VendettaOnline and 6 tracks in Distance
I find this thread hilarious. From the cringe inducing pictures the OP keeps posting to the zealot like responses and answers from Tolkiens loyal defenders. Lighten up all, its just a couple of books (and I have studied English Literature at Uni).
Also, Hobbits are gay
/Cheers, Lahnmir
"A theory that homophobia is a result of latent homosexuality was put forth in the late 20th century. A 1996 study conducted at the University of Georgia by Henry Adams, Lester Wright Jr., and Bethany Lohr[1] indicates that a number of homophobic males exhibit latent homosexuality"
Just saying...
Homophobia has got absolutely nothing to do with this, I'm even slightly offended that you might be comsidering me as such a person. I couldn't care less about anyones sexual preferences, except for hobbits ofcourse.
/Cheers, Lahnmir
OK. But do you enjoy wrestling and gladiator movies?
"Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community ... but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots”
― Umberto Eco
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” ― CD PROJEKT RED
I find this thread hilarious. From the cringe inducing pictures the OP keeps posting to the zealot like responses and answers from Tolkiens loyal defenders. Lighten up all, its just a couple of books (and I have studied English Literature at Uni).
Also, Hobbits are gay
/Cheers, Lahnmir
"A theory that homophobia is a result of latent homosexuality was put forth in the late 20th century. A 1996 study conducted at the University of Georgia by Henry Adams, Lester Wright Jr., and Bethany Lohr[1] indicates that a number of homophobic males exhibit latent homosexuality"
Just saying...
Homophobia has got absolutely nothing to do with this, I'm even slightly offended that you might be comsidering me as such a person. I couldn't care less about anyones sexual preferences, except for hobbits ofcourse.
/Cheers, Lahnmir
OK. But do you enjoy wrestling and gladiator movies?
I find this thread hilarious. From the cringe inducing pictures the OP keeps posting to the zealot like responses and answers from Tolkiens loyal defenders. Lighten up all, its just a couple of books (and I have studied English Literature at Uni).
I agree more or less... I've tried to put zealotry aside, maybe my weaksauce english hindered the attempt
As it was said above, it's fine to have different opinions, I too have buddies who diss hobbits all the time... my issue was more the "movie only, hashtag idontread" approach, that's what I've tried to copy with the movie about Model Ts example. C'mon, if the title is Tolkien did it wrong, at least read the frikkin book, or a short wiki article, or anything (or say PJ did it wrong, and problem solved)
Courage is not doing great deeds, it's facing your fears. Hobbits are in very simple farming folk, they are not trying to be these "Epic hero's" they are not trying to be Conan, or whatever, they are simple folk that were thrown into a war, regardless if they liked that situation or not.
Yah, ya know what, if I was put in their shoes with my life long friend, we would rub heads, we would hug, and dammit all, we would cry, because I would feel secure with them to show my real feelings. If you notice Frodo and Sam don't get all emotional when other people are around, that is because they are guarded, but when they have that moment, just the two of them, all the veils go away, all the "be strong, put on a show, don't let them see you cry" goes away, and for a moment, for just then... they can really express how scared and terrified they are through this ordeal... which shows how much they had to overcome to go out there and do it.
that's the real face of courage. They may not be strong, powerful, or great hero's,... and they don't want to be. Their dream is growing things, drinking, getting married, having kids, and living a long and enjoyable simple life, getting impaled by swords or eating by trolls, does not fit into that dream. But they have courage like no one else. it takes no courage to jump into a fight if you enjoy getting into fights. It takes courage to jump into a fight, when you really.. really... don't want to.
I always tend to play a gnome or halfing in every mmo if its a option available. No not a dwarf , a GNOME -Halfling - or little person. I Find it interesting how dungeons & dragons and Warcraft portray gnomes and halflings as BAD ASS as opposed to Tolkien and lord of the rings. Type in halfling D & D and you will get all these pics of little tricksters with daggers and a devilish smile on their face. Type in WOW Gnome and you get the same along with magic wielding warlocks . Now look up Tolkien Hobbits and you get these little goofs with oversized feet who's shining achievement is shire pumpkin growing. Put a sword in their hand and they will likely cower in fear. I mean just the constant look of misery and cowardice on their face is rage inducing. I realize why i could never get into any of the LOTR movies, It was the hobbits. They are nauseating to watch.
Thoughts?
Thoughts? Your thinking pool is too shallow. You can post all of the selective scenes you like, but there were plenty of Hobbit bravery moments in the story. Personally, I think you are just trolling at this point. You started out well though....
An example of a major flaw in today's MMORPGs, they are one dimensional. The problem is, you can't appreciate good when there is no evil, you can't enjoy the epic if there's no common.
If his books didn't highlight the polar opposites, then you wouldn't be able to substantiate the impact they had. If everyone was an axe swinging 'bad-ass', then axe swinging 'bad-asses' would be marginalized and uninspiring. Too much Yin, not enough Yang.
Tolkien did it right.
As do games, because no one wants to play as something that is not viable. I can't see how it's a flaw to make all classes useful in an MMORPG or RPG. It's a game not a book. What's the point of creating a useless option in a game? Why would anyone pick it? Who would realistically say, I think I wanna be fodder today?.... That would be a complete waste of development time, for nothing more than a novelty.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
As do games, because no one wants to play as something that is not viable. I can't see how it's a flaw to make all classes useful in an MMORPG or RPG. It's a game not a book. What's the point of creating a useless option in a game? Why would anyone pick it? Who would realistically say, I think I wanna be fodder today?....
That's not at all what I was implying. I never even hinted at 'useless' options...
I'm going to need more explanation about what you think I mean before I follow you down this cliff.
I'd say it's the other way around (you need to explain your own point better), considering anything is essentially useless if it doesn't compete with the "axe wielding badass" out of the box. Player skill at playing is what should matter there, classes themselves should be useful across the board. I'm not arguing for 1=1 balance since different skills sets should matter.., but nothing should be weak or a pushover in a game.
So what flaw are you trying to point out there?
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Who would realistically say, I think I wanna be fodder today?.... That would be a complete waste of development time, for nothing more than a novelty.
Why do I have the hunch that you've never played chicken? you should try once, the thrill of taking a level 1 chicken to Isengard, or Minas Tirith even, is awesome.
Also, it's all about numbers, never underestimate a 'fodder'... sure, with huge casualties, but they can even take down a wolf 7 levels above them https://youtu.be/xRtYwJgWJ6A
Who would realistically say, I think I wanna be fodder today?.... That would be a complete waste of development time, for nothing more than a novelty.
Why do I have the hunch that you've never played chicken? you should try once, the thrill of taking a level 1 chicken to Isengard, or Minas Tirith even, is awesome.
Also, it's all about numbers, never underestimate a 'fodder'... sure, with huge casualties, but they can even take down a wolf 7 levels above them https://youtu.be/xRtYwJgWJ6A
I know I played something you could turn into a chicken in, was that LOTRO? or did another game also have that? I remember doing it in PVP, was that an option in LOTRO? I haven't played that game in almost 10 years.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
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"lol, everyone knows Saruman died in Orthanc, while singing the Trololo song, Frodo was saved by Arwen and Denethor did the stage-dive from the top of Minas Tirith without any hobbit help, I saw it in the movies"
That's what you get when movies become the primary source, and filmmakers rewriting the original source left and right, at their whim. (*)
There's a solution for OP though, which is kinda sad on the other hand, we had some really good laughs on this video since it's up, because it covers totally obvious elements as "false fact you've always believed". I know a guy who even wrote a mock article about who on earth believed those, and called it a totally made-up list.
Well, based on the OP it seems those people are exists, and they think PJ is == LotR.
So, OP, if you don't want to read, not even some wikis or summaries, here's a video for you, it will take only a minute for your life since the first point is the hobbits: https://youtu.be/1g75laLtd_k
(and I apologise to the rest of the posters for dropping such a video here, I know nobody believed those stuff listed in it as false facts...
*edit: don't get me wrong, the movies are ok, and I don't have much grudge against PJ either (actually before LotR I was a huge PJ fan... post-LotR, it's more toned down
It's more like a generations issue, I think, this whole "movie-only" approach. As it was stated above by others, if a book is good enough to make a movie from it, then the movie would be just an extension to the book, and not the "main dish".
Even if the movie is better - in rare cases it is also a possibility.
And I think chua is their inverse parody, from ex-wow developers
https://youtu.be/6t0mgu0_i3c
Not a huge Wildstar fan here, but loved those lead-in videos
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No David wandered no closer than thirty yards from the shambling half blind disabled guy and took him down with a highly lethal ranged weapon at a distance that the disabled guy probably couldn't see him, never mind defend himself with his melee weapon.
As for the hobbits nearly everyone and everything thing is at least twice their size, but time and time again they face them down. Even though they are farmers from a peaceful settlement where little or no violence occurs. Despite the hardships of an immense wilderness journey time and time again they cheerfully carry on in the face of adversity. Courage? They had it in enormous quantity.
Just remember these are FICTIONAL Characters we are talking about...... No need to bring real life into this discussion.
Aloha Mr Hand !
Also, Hobbits are gay
/Cheers,
Lahnmir
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
"A theory that homophobia is a result of latent homosexuality was put forth in the late 20th century. A 1996 study conducted at the University of Georgia by Henry Adams, Lester Wright Jr., and Bethany Lohr[1] indicates that a number of homophobic males exhibit latent homosexuality"
Just saying...
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
Four books, plus a couple of extra collections if you count in the extra material Peter Jackson folded into the movies. Of course you could count it as two if you regard splitting Lord of the Rings into a trilogy as the publisher's decision and not J.R.R. Tolkien's.
edit- delete
Um...
I guess I get where you are coming from? I knew a high school football coach in real life who was of the same opinion. He was a reasonably intelligent bro, he may have even read the trilogy. I'm sure there are fans of Tolkien's works that feel the same as you toward the movies.
That stated, read The Hobbit and then Lord of the Rings. Read it... "in a hole in the ground there lived a hobbit..."
Get a book on tape... something. You are anonymously embarrassing yourself on the internet.
In Tolkien's fantasy, Hobbits are an analog to civilians during the great war. They have no martial training and yet due to circumstance are required to accomplish great feats of bravery because of a rapidly changing world.
Consider that before Peter Jackson's masterpiece, the one notable film adaptation of LOTR was a rotoscoped incomplete animated feature:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lord_of_the_Rings_(1978_film)
Peter Jackson did a much better job in my opinion, thankfully in part because he had studio backing for three films. I believe he loved Tolkien's world so much he made The Hobbit into three movies when one would have been a faithful, balanced translation. Lord of the Rings should have been nine movies to match the quantity of material PJ got from The Hobbit.
Getting back to Frodo; a couple things: he has to carry Bilbo's legacy, and he also must rely both on The Fellowship and his companion Sam. In interviews the actors compare the relationship between Sam and Frodo to the relationship between a captain and first lieutenant during WWI, or something like that.
The films also attempted to compensate for one of the criticisms of Tolkien's work; that there are not enough strong female roles. Some things in the book that Frodo gets to do are given to characters like Arwen (who plays a very minor part in the books - I could be wrong but I don't recall her even showing up until Return of the King). Even so, some film critics of the time said women are 'part of the film's subconscious '.
All stated, LoTR and The Hobbit are my favorite collection of films, even above Star Wars, in no small part because Tolkien's passion finally got the sensible Hollywood treatment I had been waiting for since first finishing the books at age 10 or so.
"The simple is the seal of the true and beauty is the splendor of truth" -Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar
Authored 139 missions in Vendetta Online and 6 tracks in Distance
Homophobia has got absolutely nothing to do with this, I'm even slightly offended that you might be comsidering me as such a person. I couldn't care less about anyones sexual preferences, except for hobbits ofcourse.
/Cheers,
Lahnmir
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
I know, I read them too. Like I said, just a couple of books. Just like Dune, or Game of Thrones, or the Discworld series dor that matter
/Cheers,
Lahnmir
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
Okay, but you should understand Middle Earth owes its origins in no small part due to Tolkien's WWI experiences:
"The simple is the seal of the true and beauty is the splendor of truth" -Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar
Authored 139 missions in Vendetta Online and 6 tracks in Distance
OK. But do you enjoy wrestling and gladiator movies?
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
Aloha Mr Hand !
Aloha Mr Hand !
As it was said above, it's fine to have different opinions, I too have buddies who diss hobbits all the time... my issue was more the "movie only, hashtag idontread" approach, that's what I've tried to copy with the movie about Model Ts example.
C'mon, if the title is Tolkien did it wrong, at least read the frikkin book, or a short wiki article, or anything
(or say PJ did it wrong, and problem solved)
Yah, ya know what, if I was put in their shoes with my life long friend, we would rub heads, we would hug, and dammit all, we would cry, because I would feel secure with them to show my real feelings. If you notice Frodo and Sam don't get all emotional when other people are around, that is because they are guarded, but when they have that moment, just the two of them, all the veils go away, all the "be strong, put on a show, don't let them see you cry" goes away, and for a moment, for just then... they can really express how scared and terrified they are through this ordeal... which shows how much they had to overcome to go out there and do it.
that's the real face of courage. They may not be strong, powerful, or great hero's,... and they don't want to be. Their dream is growing things, drinking, getting married, having kids, and living a long and enjoyable simple life, getting impaled by swords or eating by trolls, does not fit into that dream. But they have courage like no one else. it takes no courage to jump into a fight if you enjoy getting into fights. It takes courage to jump into a fight, when you really.. really... don't want to.
Just saying on that...
Thoughts? Your thinking pool is too shallow. You can post all of the selective scenes you like, but there were plenty of Hobbit bravery moments in the story. Personally, I think you are just trolling at this point. You started out well though....
Aloha Mr Hand !
As do games, because no one wants to play as something that is not viable. I can't see how it's a flaw to make all classes useful in an MMORPG or RPG. It's a game not a book. What's the point of creating a useless option in a game? Why would anyone pick it? Who would realistically say, I think I wanna be fodder today?.... That would be a complete waste of development time, for nothing more than a novelty.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
I'd say it's the other way around (you need to explain your own point better), considering anything is essentially useless if it doesn't compete with the "axe wielding badass" out of the box. Player skill at playing is what should matter there, classes themselves should be useful across the board. I'm not arguing for 1=1 balance since different skills sets should matter.., but nothing should be weak or a pushover in a game.
So what flaw are you trying to point out there?
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Also, it's all about numbers, never underestimate a 'fodder'... sure, with huge casualties, but they can even take down a wolf 7 levels above them
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson