How a judge finds things could be very interesting . . Where the code is protected under a EULA, which is yet to be found as a trully law binded agreement . The Star Wars IP is however protected under an actual copyright . WHich courts have been almost 100% behind and usually those stepping over copyright laws are found guilty of such .
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
As of right now the 8th Circuit Court of Appeals has AFFIRMED a lower courts ruling that reverse engineering reguarding a WoW EMU was ILLEGAL. If one is attempted for SWG it may meet the same fate.
8th Circuit Court of Appeals decision (actual court document):
There is NO need for $OE/$ony to file a lawsuit yet as they have NOT experienced any damages yet. Once that day comes and they can claim damages then they will file a lawsuit. Until then a Cease and Desist Oder is all they can do but is customarily a prelude to a lawsuit.
Sago Mactow Former SWG 2yr 7 month Vet 6/26/03 - 1/26/06 Jedi, Master Shipwright, Master Architect DFR Councilman Tarq Server
Originally posted by Sago As of right now the 8th Circuit Court of Appeals has AFFIRMED a lower courts ruling that reverse engineering reguarding a WoW EMU was ILLEGAL. If one is attempted for SWG it may meet the same fate. 8th Circuit Court of Appeals decision (actual court document): http://www.law.berkeley.edu/clinics/samuelson/projects_papers/Blizzard_Amicus.pdf Here is a link to an article regarding the 8th Circuit Cout of Appeals decision. http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/warcraft3reignofchaos/news.html?sid=6132467 There will be NO SWG EMU in the USA. Copyright laws are different in each country tho. I like the creativity and admire the talent the people had to be able to reverse engineer a server. BUT the courts have ruled. An article supporting reverse engineering: http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/10/10/1454210 There is NO need for $OE/$ony to file a lawsuit yet as they have NOT experienced any damages yet. Once that day comes and they can claim damages then they will file a lawsuit. Until then a Cease and Desist Oder is all they can do but is customarily a prelude to a lawsuit.
These cases have nothing to do with the use of EMUs...
These were a bunch of guys who wanted to be UBER in an exsisting game. They exploited and got caught. swgemu is far and away diffrent....The game they are rebuilding no longer exsists. SOE has said it..."PRE-CU is no more"! They said they could not bring it back if they wanted to because, THEY DO NOT EVEN HAVE THE CODE ANYMORE.
Originally posted by LAW! Originally posted by Sago As of right now the 8th Circuit Court of Appeals has AFFIRMED a lower courts ruling that reverse engineering reguarding a WoW EMU was ILLEGAL. If one is attempted for SWG it may meet the same fate. 8th Circuit Court of Appeals decision (actual court document): http://www.law.berkeley.edu/clinics/samuelson/projects_papers/Blizzard_Amicus.pdf Here is a link to an article regarding the 8th Circuit Cout of Appeals decision. http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/warcraft3reignofchaos/news.html?sid=6132467 There will be NO SWG EMU in the USA. Copyright laws are different in each country tho. I like the creativity and admire the talent the people had to be able to reverse engineer a server. BUT the courts have ruled. An article supporting reverse engineering: http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/10/10/1454210 There is NO need for $OE/$ony to file a lawsuit yet as they have NOT experienced any damages yet. Once that day comes and they can claim damages then they will file a lawsuit. Until then a Cease and Desist Oder is all they can do but is customarily a prelude to a lawsuit.
These cases have nothing to do with the use of EMUs...
These were a bunch of guys who wanter to be UBER in an exsisting game. They exploited and got caught. swgemu is far and away a diffrent....The game they are rebuilding no longer exsists. SOE has said it..."PRE-CU is no more"
To a court it has everything to do with it . By finding the party guilty they have set a precedant .Therefor it gives SOE's lawyers a case . By creating an Emu they have to reverse engineer from what i understand . That means they are breaking atleast a U.S law .
Sure it does , SWG is SWG . The foundations are the same aside from a few small differences . Where you may consider NGE to be a new game it is not . NGE stands for New Game Experience , As in New built on to the old . Therefor SWG in and of it self exists . By creating an Emu they are creating competition for SWG . And in my opinion there is probably a law about doing so considering , The competition is SWG being operated by an entity that doesn't own the rights to it .
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Originally posted by LAW! Originally posted by Sago As of right now the 8th Circuit Court of Appeals has AFFIRMED a lower courts ruling that reverse engineering reguarding a WoW EMU was ILLEGAL. If one is attempted for SWG it may meet the same fate. 8th Circuit Court of Appeals decision (actual court document): http://www.law.berkeley.edu/clinics/samuelson/projects_papers/Blizzard_Amicus.pdf Here is a link to an article regarding the 8th Circuit Cout of Appeals decision. http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/warcraft3reignofchaos/news.html?sid=6132467 There will be NO SWG EMU in the USA. Copyright laws are different in each country tho. I like the creativity and admire the talent the people had to be able to reverse engineer a server. BUT the courts have ruled. An article supporting reverse engineering: http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/10/10/1454210 There is NO need for $OE/$ony to file a lawsuit yet as they have NOT experienced any damages yet. Once that day comes and they can claim damages then they will file a lawsuit. Until then a Cease and Desist Oder is all they can do but is customarily a prelude to a lawsuit.
These cases have nothing to do with the use of EMUs...
These were a bunch of guys who wanted to be UBER in an exsisting game. They exploited and got caught. swgemu is far and away diffrent....The game they are rebuilding no longer exsists. SOE has said it..."PRE-CU is no more"! They said they could not bring it back if they wanted to because, THEY DO NOT EVEN HAVE THE CODE ANYMORE.
You need to go back to school and read.
Or maybe read before you comment on something you don't know about.
They involve an EMU of WoW. They even talk about the "reverse engineering" and lack of ability to verify a cd key..
Read it ... then comment.
Sago Mactow Former SWG 2yr 7 month Vet 6/26/03 - 1/26/06 Jedi, Master Shipwright, Master Architect DFR Councilman Tarq Server
Originally posted by Malickiebloo Originally posted by LAW! Originally posted by Sago As of right now the 8th Circuit Court of Appeals has AFFIRMED a lower courts ruling that reverse engineering reguarding a WoW EMU was ILLEGAL. If one is attempted for SWG it may meet the same fate. 8th Circuit Court of Appeals decision (actual court document): http://www.law.berkeley.edu/clinics/samuelson/projects_papers/Blizzard_Amicus.pdf Here is a link to an article regarding the 8th Circuit Cout of Appeals decision. http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/warcraft3reignofchaos/news.html?sid=6132467 There will be NO SWG EMU in the USA. Copyright laws are different in each country tho. I like the creativity and admire the talent the people had to be able to reverse engineer a server. BUT the courts have ruled. An article supporting reverse engineering: http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/10/10/1454210 There is NO need for $OE/$ony to file a lawsuit yet as they have NOT experienced any damages yet. Once that day comes and they can claim damages then they will file a lawsuit. Until then a Cease and Desist Oder is all they can do but is customarily a prelude to a lawsuit.
These cases have nothing to do with the use of EMUs...
These were a bunch of guys who wanter to be UBER in an exsisting game. They exploited and got caught. swgemu is far and away a diffrent....The game they are rebuilding no longer exsists. SOE has said it..."PRE-CU is no more"
To a court it has everything to do with it . By finding the party guilty they have set a precedant .Therefor it gives SOE's lawyers a case . By creating an Emu they have to reverse engineer from what i understand . That means they are breaking atleast a U.S law .
Sure it does , SWG is SWG . The foundations are the same aside from a few small differences . Where you may consider NGE to be a new game it is not . NGE stands for New Game Experience , As in New built on to the old . Therefor SWG in and of it self exists . By creating an Emu they are creating competition for SWG . And in my opinion there is probably a law about doing so considering , The competition is SWG being operated by an entity that doesn't own the rights to it .
Small differences???...are you nuts!?!?
The only thing that has not changed are the skins. Combat, Items, Progression, Quests, Travel, XP, PROFESSIONS!!!!, Skills, and dozens more thing have in fact changed...SWG is NOT SWG!!!!
SOE has said it...THE PRE-CU GAME IS GONE AND WILL NEVER RETURN.
In order to violate a copyright law...you must profit in some way from the use of the protected product. This is not possible because they are not charging anything
Originally posted by LAW! I can assure you all that it is legal and there is nothing SOE can do about it.
You have NO clue what you are talking about.
I TRULY wish you were right. I hate $OE and $LA and think the current Dev Team is a bunch of amatures. But the courts have ruled whether you want to admit it or not.
Sago Mactow Former SWG 2yr 7 month Vet 6/26/03 - 1/26/06 Jedi, Master Shipwright, Master Architect DFR Councilman Tarq Server
Originally posted by LAW! Originally posted by Malickiebloo Originally posted by LAW! Originally posted by Sago As of right now the 8th Circuit Court of Appeals has AFFIRMED a lower courts ruling that reverse engineering reguarding a WoW EMU was ILLEGAL. If one is attempted for SWG it may meet the same fate. 8th Circuit Court of Appeals decision (actual court document): http://www.law.berkeley.edu/clinics/samuelson/projects_papers/Blizzard_Amicus.pdf Here is a link to an article regarding the 8th Circuit Cout of Appeals decision. http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/warcraft3reignofchaos/news.html?sid=6132467 There will be NO SWG EMU in the USA. Copyright laws are different in each country tho. I like the creativity and admire the talent the people had to be able to reverse engineer a server. BUT the courts have ruled. An article supporting reverse engineering: http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/10/10/1454210 There is NO need for $OE/$ony to file a lawsuit yet as they have NOT experienced any damages yet. Once that day comes and they can claim damages then they will file a lawsuit. Until then a Cease and Desist Oder is all they can do but is customarily a prelude to a lawsuit.
These cases have nothing to do with the use of EMUs...
These were a bunch of guys who wanter to be UBER in an exsisting game. They exploited and got caught. swgemu is far and away a diffrent....The game they are rebuilding no longer exsists. SOE has said it..."PRE-CU is no more"
To a court it has everything to do with it . By finding the party guilty they have set a precedant .Therefor it gives SOE's lawyers a case . By creating an Emu they have to reverse engineer from what i understand . That means they are breaking atleast a U.S law .
Sure it does , SWG is SWG . The foundations are the same aside from a few small differences . Where you may consider NGE to be a new game it is not . NGE stands for New Game Experience , As in New built on to the old . Therefor SWG in and of it self exists . By creating an Emu they are creating competition for SWG . And in my opinion there is probably a law about doing so considering , The competition is SWG being operated by an entity that doesn't own the rights to it .
Small differences???...are you nuts!?!?
The only thing that has not changed are the skins. Combat, Items, Progression, Quests, Travel, XP, PROFESSIONS!!!!, Skills, and dozens more thing have in fact changed...SWG is NOT SWG!!!!
SOE has said it...THE PRE-CU GAME IS GONE AND WILL NEVER RETURN.
In order to violate a copyright law...you must profit in some way from the use of the protected product. This is not possible because they are not charging anything
/Sigh We are talking about the overall product here , Not the play experience . Type all the ?!?!?!?!?! you want It doesn't make what you are saying any more true . SWG as a product exists .
By creating an Emu they could hurt SOE and LA's profit . Need I also mention Napster ? You can't just give a product away in mass . You are hurting the profits of a copyrighted Product . It is a form of piracy .
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Originally posted by Sago Originally posted by LAW! I can assure you all that it is legal and there is nothing SOE can do about it.
You have NO clue what you are talking about.
I TRULY wish you were right. I hate $OE and $LA and think the current Dev Team is a bunch of amatures. But the courts have ruled whether you want to admit it or not.
Who gives a rat's ass? Other countries dont have the same laws as we do, and regardless of the legality fuck em. If they can get the server open and working, I will support it regardless of the legality. SOE lost all right to the moral highground when they betrayed their customers. Again, Screw 'em.......
"The man who exchanges Liberty for Iconic classes is a fool deserving of neither." - Me and Ben Franklin
Originally posted by chlaos Originally posted by Sago Originally posted by LAW! I can assure you all that it is legal and there is nothing SOE can do about it.
You have NO clue what you are talking about.
I TRULY wish you were right. I hate $OE and $LA and think the current Dev Team is a bunch of amatures. But the courts have ruled whether you want to admit it or not.
Who gives a rat's ass? Other countries dont have the same laws as we do, and regardless of the legality fuck em. If they can get the server open and working, I will support it regardless of the legality. SOE lost all right to the moral highground when they betrayed their customers. Again, Screw 'em.......
Now here is an intelligent statement.
It eill have to be done in another country as of right now at least.
Sago Mactow Former SWG 2yr 7 month Vet 6/26/03 - 1/26/06 Jedi, Master Shipwright, Master Architect DFR Councilman Tarq Server
Originally posted by chlaos Originally posted by Sago Originally posted by LAW! I can assure you all that it is legal and there is nothing SOE can do about it.
You have NO clue what you are talking about.
I TRULY wish you were right. I hate $OE and $LA and think the current Dev Team is a bunch of amatures. But the courts have ruled whether you want to admit it or not.
Who gives a rat's ass? Other countries dont have the same laws as we do, and regardless of the legality fuck em. If they can get the server open and working, I will support it regardless of the legality. SOE lost all right to the moral highground when they betrayed their customers. Again, Screw 'em.......
America **** yeah ! Comin' To save the Motha ***in Day yeah !!!
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Originally posted by Sago Originally posted by LAW! What about the EQ EMU?...SOE has all rights to EQ right?
I am sure that since this new court ruling that the other EMU cases will be revisited. Or it may end up at the US Supreme Court.
How do you know this???...How could you possibly know this????
Maybe SOE does not care about the EQ EMU...Smed has said on the OFFICIAL SONY ONLINE ENTERTAINMENT SITE FORUMS...That if the EMU project could be done he would hire the DEVs.
Originally posted by LAW! Originally posted by Sago Originally posted by LAW! What about the EQ EMU?...SOE has all rights to EQ right?
I am sure that since this new court ruling that the other EMU cases will be revisited. Or it may end up at the US Supreme Court.
How do you know this???...How could you possibly know this????
Maybe SOE does not care about the EQ EMU...Smed has said on the OFFICIAL SONY ONLINE ENTERTAINMENT SITE...That if the EMU project could be done he would hire the DEVs.
Some of you people really need to think about how an EMU or many EMUs could hurt the profits of $OE if the EMU is successful. Do you really think $OE would allow this to happen?
The next step after an Federal appeals court is the US Supreme Court.
Trust me ... there is NO ONE ANYWHERE that wishes more than me that this wasn't the case.
Sago Mactow Former SWG 2yr 7 month Vet 6/26/03 - 1/26/06 Jedi, Master Shipwright, Master Architect DFR Councilman Tarq Server
Originally posted by Sago Originally posted by chlaos Originally posted by Sago Originally posted by LAW! I can assure you all that it is legal and there is nothing SOE can do about it.
You have NO clue what you are talking about.
I TRULY wish you were right. I hate $OE and $LA and think the current Dev Team is a bunch of amatures. But the courts have ruled whether you want to admit it or not.
Who gives a rat's ass? Other countries dont have the same laws as we do, and regardless of the legality fuck em. If they can get the server open and working, I will support it regardless of the legality. SOE lost all right to the moral highground when they betrayed their customers. Again, Screw 'em.......
Now here is an intelligent statement.
It eill have to be done in another country as of right now at least.
Obviously, it wasnt meant to be an intelligent statement. Rather, just an expression of emotion. Doesnt mean I wouldnt do just as i said, but I dont expect it to come about. At the very least, the legality in some foreign countries is a bit ambiguous.
"The man who exchanges Liberty for Iconic classes is a fool deserving of neither." - Me and Ben Franklin
Originally posted by LAW! Why is the EQ EMU legal and the SWG EMU not? SOE owns both...so why?
I would imagine that they are both illegal, at lest according to US law. I would think the problem might be with the ability to enforce that law, bot within and without the US. Im just guessing though.
"The man who exchanges Liberty for Iconic classes is a fool deserving of neither." - Me and Ben Franklin
If its in Europe they will have to deal with Interpol. Id rather eat broken glass and drink freon than have Interpol on my ass. And if they have it in a country that isnt part of Interpol thats just as bad, because that basically leaves them with just crackdown countries that WILL do something about it, wether or not it breaks their laws or not. They dont want that shit in their country.
**EDIT** Here is a list of all the countries that are members of Interpol. After you read that extensive list and notice there are no worthwhile countries left off the list, go and read up on everything they enforce. Then come back here and tell me this shit is legal.
"There's no star system Slave I can't reach, and there's no planet I can't find. There's nowhere in the Galaxy for you to run. Might as well give up now." Boba Fett
Originally posted by Spathotan If its in Europe they will have to deal with Interpol. Id rather eat broken glass and drink freon than have Interpol on my ass. And if they have it in a country that isnt part of Interpol thats just as bad, because that basically leaves them with just crackdown countries that WILL do something about it, wether or not it breaks their laws or not. They dont want that shit in their country.
Honestly, its hard to imagine that any of us know exactly where it will happen or what will happen. If it ever comes live like they are promising, it will be openly available to whoever want to start a server. This would make it much harder to shut down since it could pop up wherever. Regardless, if it happens there will be some people to support it just out of principle. So, I guess we will see......
"The man who exchanges Liberty for Iconic classes is a fool deserving of neither." - Me and Ben Franklin
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For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
As of right now the 8th Circuit Court of Appeals has AFFIRMED a lower courts ruling that reverse engineering reguarding a WoW EMU was ILLEGAL. If one is attempted for SWG it may meet the same fate.
8th Circuit Court of Appeals decision (actual court document):
http://www.law.berkeley.edu/clinics/samuelson/projects_papers/Blizzard_Amicus.pdf
And this right from the judge:
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data2/circs/8th/043654p.pdf
Here is a link to an article regarding the 8th Circuit Cout of Appeals decision.
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/warcraft3reignofchaos/news.html?sid=6132467
There will be NO SWG EMU in the USA. Copyright laws are different in each country tho.
I like the creativity and admire the talent the people had to be able to reverse engineer a server. BUT the courts have ruled.
An article supporting reverse engineering:
http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/10/10/1454210
There is NO need for $OE/$ony to file a lawsuit yet as they have NOT experienced any damages yet. Once that day comes and they can claim damages then they will file a lawsuit. Until then a Cease and Desist Oder is all they can do but is customarily a prelude to a lawsuit.
Sago Mactow
Former SWG 2yr 7 month Vet
6/26/03 - 1/26/06
Jedi, Master Shipwright, Master Architect
DFR Councilman
Tarq Server
These cases have nothing to do with the use of EMUs...
These were a bunch of guys who wanted to be UBER in an exsisting game. They exploited and got caught. swgemu is far and away diffrent....The game they are rebuilding no longer exsists. SOE has said it..."PRE-CU is no more"! They said they could not bring it back if they wanted to because, THEY DO NOT EVEN HAVE THE CODE ANYMORE.
These cases have nothing to do with the use of EMUs...
These were a bunch of guys who wanter to be UBER in an exsisting game. They exploited and got caught. swgemu is far and away a diffrent....The game they are rebuilding no longer exsists. SOE has said it..."PRE-CU is no more"
To a court it has everything to do with it . By finding the party guilty they have set a precedant .Therefor it gives SOE's lawyers a case . By creating an Emu they have to reverse engineer from what i understand . That means they are breaking atleast a U.S law .
Sure it does , SWG is SWG . The foundations are the same aside from a few small differences . Where you may consider NGE to be a new game it is not . NGE stands for New Game Experience , As in New built on to the old . Therefor SWG in and of it self exists . By creating an Emu they are creating competition for SWG . And in my opinion there is probably a law about doing so considering , The competition is SWG being operated by an entity that doesn't own the rights to it .
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
These cases have nothing to do with the use of EMUs...
These were a bunch of guys who wanted to be UBER in an exsisting game. They exploited and got caught. swgemu is far and away diffrent....The game they are rebuilding no longer exsists. SOE has said it..."PRE-CU is no more"! They said they could not bring it back if they wanted to because, THEY DO NOT EVEN HAVE THE CODE ANYMORE.
You need to go back to school and read.
Or maybe read before you comment on something you don't know about.
They involve an EMU of WoW. They even talk about the "reverse engineering" and lack of ability to verify a cd key..
Read it ... then comment.
Sago Mactow
Former SWG 2yr 7 month Vet
6/26/03 - 1/26/06
Jedi, Master Shipwright, Master Architect
DFR Councilman
Tarq Server
I added this one:
And this right from the judge:
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data2/circs/8th/043654p.pdf
Sago Mactow
Former SWG 2yr 7 month Vet
6/26/03 - 1/26/06
Jedi, Master Shipwright, Master Architect
DFR Councilman
Tarq Server
These cases have nothing to do with the use of EMUs...
These were a bunch of guys who wanter to be UBER in an exsisting game. They exploited and got caught. swgemu is far and away a diffrent....The game they are rebuilding no longer exsists. SOE has said it..."PRE-CU is no more"
To a court it has everything to do with it . By finding the party guilty they have set a precedant .Therefor it gives SOE's lawyers a case . By creating an Emu they have to reverse engineer from what i understand . That means they are breaking atleast a U.S law .
Sure it does , SWG is SWG . The foundations are the same aside from a few small differences . Where you may consider NGE to be a new game it is not . NGE stands for New Game Experience , As in New built on to the old . Therefor SWG in and of it self exists . By creating an Emu they are creating competition for SWG . And in my opinion there is probably a law about doing so considering , The competition is SWG being operated by an entity that doesn't own the rights to it .
Small differences???...are you nuts!?!?
The only thing that has not changed are the skins. Combat, Items, Progression, Quests, Travel, XP, PROFESSIONS!!!!, Skills, and dozens more thing have in fact changed...SWG is NOT SWG!!!!
SOE has said it...THE PRE-CU GAME IS GONE AND WILL NEVER RETURN.
In order to violate a copyright law...you must profit in some way from the use of the protected product. This is not possible because they are not charging anything
You have NO clue what you are talking about.
I TRULY wish you were right. I hate $OE and $LA and think the current Dev Team is a bunch of amatures. But the courts have ruled whether you want to admit it or not.
Sago Mactow
Former SWG 2yr 7 month Vet
6/26/03 - 1/26/06
Jedi, Master Shipwright, Master Architect
DFR Councilman
Tarq Server
What about the EQ EMU?...SOE has all rights to EQ right?
These cases have nothing to do with the use of EMUs...
These were a bunch of guys who wanter to be UBER in an exsisting game. They exploited and got caught. swgemu is far and away a diffrent....The game they are rebuilding no longer exsists. SOE has said it..."PRE-CU is no more"
To a court it has everything to do with it . By finding the party guilty they have set a precedant .Therefor it gives SOE's lawyers a case . By creating an Emu they have to reverse engineer from what i understand . That means they are breaking atleast a U.S law .
Sure it does , SWG is SWG . The foundations are the same aside from a few small differences . Where you may consider NGE to be a new game it is not . NGE stands for New Game Experience , As in New built on to the old . Therefor SWG in and of it self exists . By creating an Emu they are creating competition for SWG . And in my opinion there is probably a law about doing so considering , The competition is SWG being operated by an entity that doesn't own the rights to it .
Small differences???...are you nuts!?!?
The only thing that has not changed are the skins. Combat, Items, Progression, Quests, Travel, XP, PROFESSIONS!!!!, Skills, and dozens more thing have in fact changed...SWG is NOT SWG!!!!
SOE has said it...THE PRE-CU GAME IS GONE AND WILL NEVER RETURN.
In order to violate a copyright law...you must profit in some way from the use of the protected product. This is not possible because they are not charging anything
/Sigh We are talking about the overall product here , Not the play experience . Type all the ?!?!?!?!?! you want It doesn't make what you are saying any more true . SWG as a product exists .
By creating an Emu they could hurt SOE and LA's profit . Need I also mention Napster ? You can't just give a product away in mass . You are hurting the profits of a copyrighted Product . It is a form of piracy .
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
I am sure that since this new court ruling that the other EMU cases will be revisited. Or it may end up at the US Supreme Court.
BTW ... what's up with the server???? Posts are getting all messed up...
Sago Mactow
Former SWG 2yr 7 month Vet
6/26/03 - 1/26/06
Jedi, Master Shipwright, Master Architect
DFR Councilman
Tarq Server
You have NO clue what you are talking about.
I TRULY wish you were right. I hate $OE and $LA and think the current Dev Team is a bunch of amatures. But the courts have ruled whether you want to admit it or not.
Who gives a rat's ass? Other countries dont have the same laws as we do, and regardless of the legality fuck em. If they can get the server open and working, I will support it regardless of the legality. SOE lost all right to the moral highground when they betrayed their customers. Again, Screw 'em.......
"The man who exchanges Liberty for Iconic classes is a fool deserving of neither." - Me and Ben Franklin
You have NO clue what you are talking about.
I TRULY wish you were right. I hate $OE and $LA and think the current Dev Team is a bunch of amatures. But the courts have ruled whether you want to admit it or not.
Who gives a rat's ass? Other countries dont have the same laws as we do, and regardless of the legality fuck em. If they can get the server open and working, I will support it regardless of the legality. SOE lost all right to the moral highground when they betrayed their customers. Again, Screw 'em.......
Now here is an intelligent statement.
It eill have to be done in another country as of right now at least.
Sago Mactow
Former SWG 2yr 7 month Vet
6/26/03 - 1/26/06
Jedi, Master Shipwright, Master Architect
DFR Councilman
Tarq Server
You have NO clue what you are talking about.
I TRULY wish you were right. I hate $OE and $LA and think the current Dev Team is a bunch of amatures. But the courts have ruled whether you want to admit it or not.
Who gives a rat's ass? Other countries dont have the same laws as we do, and regardless of the legality fuck em. If they can get the server open and working, I will support it regardless of the legality. SOE lost all right to the moral highground when they betrayed their customers. Again, Screw 'em.......
America **** yeah ! Comin' To save the Motha ***in Day yeah !!!
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
How do you know this???...How could you possibly know this????
Maybe SOE does not care about the EQ EMU...Smed has said on the OFFICIAL SONY ONLINE ENTERTAINMENT SITE FORUMS...That if the EMU project could be done he would hire the DEVs.
How do you know this???...How could you possibly know this????
Maybe SOE does not care about the EQ EMU...Smed has said on the OFFICIAL SONY ONLINE ENTERTAINMENT SITE...That if the EMU project could be done he would hire the DEVs.
Some of you people really need to think about how an EMU or many EMUs could hurt the profits of $OE if the EMU is successful. Do you really think $OE would allow this to happen?
The next step after an Federal appeals court is the US Supreme Court.
Trust me ... there is NO ONE ANYWHERE that wishes more than me that this wasn't the case.
Sago Mactow
Former SWG 2yr 7 month Vet
6/26/03 - 1/26/06
Jedi, Master Shipwright, Master Architect
DFR Councilman
Tarq Server
You have NO clue what you are talking about.
I TRULY wish you were right. I hate $OE and $LA and think the current Dev Team is a bunch of amatures. But the courts have ruled whether you want to admit it or not.
Who gives a rat's ass? Other countries dont have the same laws as we do, and regardless of the legality fuck em. If they can get the server open and working, I will support it regardless of the legality. SOE lost all right to the moral highground when they betrayed their customers. Again, Screw 'em.......
Now here is an intelligent statement.
It eill have to be done in another country as of right now at least.
Obviously, it wasnt meant to be an intelligent statement. Rather, just an expression of emotion. Doesnt mean I wouldnt do just as i said, but I dont expect it to come about. At the very least, the legality in some foreign countries is a bit ambiguous.
"The man who exchanges Liberty for Iconic classes is a fool deserving of neither." - Me and Ben Franklin
Why is the EQ EMU legal and the SWG EMU not?
SOE owns both...so why?
"The man who exchanges Liberty for Iconic classes is a fool deserving of neither." - Me and Ben Franklin
If its in Europe they will have to deal with Interpol. Id rather eat broken glass and drink freon than have Interpol on my ass. And if they have it in a country that isnt part of Interpol thats just as bad, because that basically leaves them with just crackdown countries that WILL do something about it, wether or not it breaks their laws or not. They dont want that shit in their country.
**EDIT** Here is a list of all the countries that are members of Interpol. After you read that extensive list and notice there are no worthwhile countries left off the list, go and read up on everything they enforce. Then come back here and tell me this shit is legal.
"There's no star system Slave I can't reach, and there's no planet I can't find. There's nowhere in the Galaxy for you to run. Might as well give up now."
Boba Fett
"The man who exchanges Liberty for Iconic classes is a fool deserving of neither." - Me and Ben Franklin
http://eqforums.station.sony.com/eq/board/message?board.id=tech&message.id=92862&highlight&winter%27s+roar#M92862
An SOE CSR says it is possible to have an EMU!...LOL
http://eqforums.station.sony.com/eq/board/message?board.id=tech&message.id=92862&highlight&winter%27s+roar#M92862
An SOE CSR says it is possible to have an EMU!...LOL
That doesn't make it legal
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson