Originally posted by anubisss AOC will not have to worry about WAR as its not the same kind of game.WOW is a free roaming MMORPG which has no World PVP and is a PVE raiding grind fiest.WAR will be in direct competition with WOW and properly do it better at PVP-RVR than Blizzard could ever hope for.
AOC has a more direct threat in the shape of G&D(Gods&Heroes).This game is a MMORPG with ground breaking ideas,from Siege`s to Minions plus set in a world we can all relate to.Have you ever watched Jason And The Argonauts or wonder what it would be like to follow an Ancient god and be rewarded for it.
Its a two horse race for me..
1 AOC looks great and has some good ideas but cant help thinking it will run on the same lines as GW,not really being a MMORPG.
2 G&H Rome and all its treasures await,mythical creatures,politics,the Colosseum,and the lands across the Mediterranean ie EYGPT,Greece and Mighty Carthage all awaiting brave adventurers.
Both these games have PVP G&H properly having more...
After following AoC for quite some time it would seem that AoC at it's core is more similar to WoW. especially with the raiding, and PvE item importance. Just a couple things I've gathered from the community portal that made me die a little inside. It seems more and more every day that they're selling their mature content sticker rather than their gameplay. Oh well, hopefully they'll surprise me.
So far their PvP ideas are trying to be new but seem like they're loaded with flaws. hopefuly they'll surprise me there too.
--------------------------------------------- I live to fight, and fight to live.
Originally posted by checkthis500 After following AoC for quite some time it would seem that AoC at it's core is more similar to WoW. especially with the raiding, and PvE item importance. Just a couple things I've gathered from the community portal that made me die a little inside. It seems more and more every day that they're selling their mature content sticker rather than their gameplay. Oh well, hopefully they'll surprise me.
So far their PvP ideas are trying to be new but seem like they're loaded with flaws. hopefuly they'll surprise me there too.
How would you say that AoC is the same as WoW in the form of raiding and item importance?
The Devs have clearly said that it will go out in Skill > Items in AoC. Where in WoW, we have the entierly opposite.
Originally posted by checkthis500 After following AoC for quite some time it would seem that AoC at it's core is more similar to WoW. especially with the raiding, and PvE item importance. Just a couple things I've gathered from the community portal that made me die a little inside. It seems more and more every day that they're selling their mature content sticker rather than their gameplay. Oh well, hopefully they'll surprise me.
So far their PvP ideas are trying to be new but seem like they're loaded with flaws. hopefuly they'll surprise me there too.
Or maybe AOC is simular to Anarchy Online? You know a game that came before WOW.. Im sick of people using WOW as a measuring stick.. Like they were the first ones to come up with raiding, crafting, pvp, etc..
Anarchy Online had raiding for valuable items as well.. Does that mean it was the camp and grind fest of running the same instance day in and day out for a chance that you could possible roll on someting that just might drop.. No, but it was raiding none the less. Just because one game screwed up on raiding that doesn't mean that they all did.
And do tell, what are these "Flaws" that you see in AOC's PVP.
------------------------------ You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
Originally posted by RockyRambo My question is Which one has bigger battles. And I'm all for AoC. It looks so good where as Warhammer as much of u said looks like WoW plays like WoW nothing new to it. I mean no offense but it looks like a piece of flaming poo.. I just really want to see Epic battles in AoC. I dont want them to say EPIC BATTLES EPIC BATTLES then turn out its like 100vs100 which is actually not that bad but its not epic....at all....in fact....thats like nothing but good for tech today
My bet is on WAR for epic battles. First of all, WAR seems to have lower graphical requirements which means less lag. Second of all, the whole game is RvR based. EVERYONE is participating in PvP in some way. That's simplely not the case in AoC. I don't know why people would think AoC's PvP would be as big as WAR's in the first place, considering the first bunch of levels in Connan don't even have players to co-operate with.
Farbeit for me to agree with Tinybina but I have to agree in this instance. Some of you are simply grasping at straws here. What do some people find in Wow that allows them to pull a yardstick out and compare every new game to it??? I aquience that Wow has a big following but it is childish compared to AoC.(From what I've seen.)
And again, what is the flaw in Pvp that Tiny asked about that you are trying to hit a point on? What is your argument? Give us a hint...
Played Wow, D and L, AOC, GW, Eve, Rift and many more insignificant games.
Originally posted by Distortion0 Originally posted by RockyRambo My question is Which one has bigger battles. And I'm all for AoC. It looks so good where as Warhammer as much of u said looks like WoW plays like WoW nothing new to it. I mean no offense but it looks like a piece of flaming poo.. I just really want to see Epic battles in AoC. I dont want them to say EPIC BATTLES EPIC BATTLES then turn out its like 100vs100 which is actually not that bad but its not epic....at all....in fact....thats like nothing but good for tech today
My bet is on WAR for epic battles. First of all, WAR seems to have lower graphical requirements which means less lag. Second of all, the whole game is RvR based. EVERYONE is participating in PvP in some way. That's simplely not the case in AoC. I don't know why people would think AoC's PvP would be as big as WAR's in the first place, considering the first bunch of levels in Connan don't even have players to co-operate with.
I would have to agree with you in some ways distortion. I feel the different races in Warhammer offer more of a feeling of belonging than Conan which starts you out by yourself and doesn't really offer a place unless you join a clan/guild beforehand. But I have high hopes for both games. AoC in particular, just because Conan is a childhood hero of mine.
But again! People are comparing "new" games to Wow! It blows my mind! Warhammer has been around since the early 80's and is far deeper than Warcraft, which has been around since the mid 90's. So to all Wow advocates...drop it!
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But again! People are comparing "new" games to Wow!
Got a simple answer for that...cause they never really cared bout rpgs in any way before...through the hype, through the big commercials now everyone startting at the age of 10 thinks he knows everything about mmorpgs just because he´s got a freaking Nightelf (OH They´re sooo cute) Archer with Tier2 who pwns all the nwbs n stuff...
It´s simple as that, lack of knowledge and only one game to compare...so they commpare all with wow....
Edit : To be honest, it´s hard to judge whether WAR or AoC, both seem promising in it´s own ways, but i´m kinda stuck on that 18+ what conan promises, if it´s gonna be like two games would be comperably good i´d choose AoC due to the 18+...i don´t have anything against kids, don´t point me wrong, but...i just like to minimize the chance of people destroying another game thorugh unadultery,flaming n stuff, and imho most happened due immaturety...that´s why i´d chose aoc then...
everyone seems to think the 18+ will stop kids from playing, what it will do is prolly bring more kids in the game due to the rating. There a million ways to get around a M rating if ur a teen. Honestly i dont think parents look at ratings that much anyway.
Originally posted by iduums everyone seems to think the 18+ will stop kids from playing, what it will do is prolly bring more kids in the game due to the rating. There a million ways to get around a M rating if ur a teen. Honestly i dont think parents look at ratings that much anyway.
And as I have said before...*sigh* Thats when possible MMORPG's greatest CSR team will come in.. Act up get a GM paying you a visit very quickly. Just like in Funcoms other MMORPG Anarchy Online.
------------------------------ You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
Why does some idiot always have to make an "X vs. Y!" post?
The market's big enough for all of them if they're good. It's not like the two games will actually fight. These threads are just stupid. They're nothing more than a place for people to come and hate on eachother's games.
"Because it's easier to nitpick something than to be constructive." -roach5000
I think you'll find yourself pleased with the combat in both games.. however for me, it's the style of combat that makes the difference.. aoc tries to go for a less plastic, low fantasy environment.. while warhammer is plastic miniatyres in a high fantasy environment..
although both games still got unanswered questions as to HOW the good and the bad will be implemented, it should still be a q' of what style you prefer.. because of the war / wow similarities in style, I think I'll go for something different.
(besides, where are the skaven playable characters in war? huh? :P )
age of c0nan has to worry about both warhammer and thrones of chaos.. Aoc isnt as great as people make it out to be if you've played it at the gaming shows already...plus Funcom doesn't exactly have the greatest record of making bug free games.
"Based on our teams experience I have no doubt that they will produce something that will compete with titles like Age of conan. Yes. Although it's sure to be good game also! "
Originally posted by identity51 age of c0nan has to worry about both warhammer and thrones of chaos.. Aoc isnt as great as people make it out to be if you've played it at the gaming shows already...plus Funcom doesn't exactly have the greatest record of making bug free games. www.warhammeronline.com www.thronesofchaos.com "Based on our teams experience I have no doubt that they will produce something that will compete with titles like Age of conan. Yes. Although it's sure to be good game also! "
Isn't Thrones of chaos a remake of Mourning?
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Originally posted by identity51 age of c0nan has to worry about both warhammer and thrones of chaos.. Aoc isnt as great as people make it out to be if you've played it at the gaming shows already...plus Funcom doesn't exactly have the greatest record of making bug free games. www.warhammeronline.com www.thronesofchaos.com "Based on our teams experience I have no doubt that they will produce something that will compete with titles like Age of conan. Yes. Although it's sure to be good game also! "
Congratulations, you already know how the game will play on release, based on a few minutes of rushed experience in the ALPHA stage of the game. You must be extremely clairvoyent to have that kind of insight, bordering on telling the future.
As to Funcom's "record" Anarchy Online was game that was rushed to production, they are taking their time to properly test Age of Conan. Besides, AO was back and running in a few days after the failed launch, easily playable in only two months, and virtually bug free in 6 months. That hardly smacks of incompetence to me.
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee. Hemingway
Originally posted by identity51 age of c0nan has to worry about both warhammer and thrones of chaos.. Aoc isnt as great as people make it out to be if you've played it at the gaming shows already...plus Funcom doesn't exactly have the greatest record of making bug free games. www.warhammeronline.com www.thronesofchaos.com "Based on our teams experience I have no doubt that they will produce something that will compete with titles like Age of conan. Yes. Although it's sure to be good game also! "
Hold up, did this person just compare AOC to Thronesofchaos aka the ( ripoff)Artist formely known as Mourning.....
------------------------------ You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
Originally posted by Aelfinn Originally posted by identity51 age of c0nan has to worry about both warhammer and thrones of chaos.. Aoc isnt as great as people make it out to be if you've played it at the gaming shows already...plus Funcom doesn't exactly have the greatest record of making bug free games. www.warhammeronline.com www.thronesofchaos.com "Based on our teams experience I have no doubt that they will produce something that will compete with titles like Age of conan. Yes. Although it's sure to be good game also! "
Congratulations, you already know how the game will play on release, based on a few minutes of rushed experience in the ALPHA stage of the game. You must be extremely clairvoyent to have that kind of insight, bordering on telling the future.
As to Funcom's "record" Anarchy Online was game that was rushed to production, they are taking their time to properly test Age of Conan. Besides, AO was back and running in a few days after the failed launch, easily playable in only two months, and virtually bug free in 6 months. That hardly smacks of incompetence to me.
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Originally posted by kaltam I dont think Thones of chaos will show any threats angainst Aoc or WAR
Not untill it shakes the poor reputation and becomes more than vaporware at least
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee. Hemingway
Originally posted by kaltam I dont think Thones of chaos will show any threats angainst Aoc or WAR
Not untill it shakes the poor reputation and becomes more than vaporware at least
All I have to say about this is that I don't care who bought Mourning and is trying to finish that game, I just want my $30 bucks back. Seriously though, I do like how the company that bought Mourning promised to give beta access to everyone who originally bought into Mourning ( I know it was against better judgement ) and yet I sit here with a little black cd case enclosed in which is a home made cd containing a Mourning game client and no beta access...sad, sad, sad...
to the point though...I doubt that any MMO has anything to worry about from Thrones of Chaos (not even SB).
Edit: To be fair though, they did send me an email telling me about ToC, but ya know, it just doesn't cut it...
MMO Vet since AOL Neverwinter Nights circa 1992. My MMO beat up your MMO. =S
personally i will be trying both, I think they both have innovative combat systems (AOC has an "oblivon" feel to it, WAR has the moral system) and those saying WAR won't have open pvp, They said from the beggining you will be leveling in the same areas as the opposite faction making pvp a huge part of the game.
Originally posted by incogniton the more i read out war the better aoc looks, atleast for me. My first and only mmo was wow, which I still play but its getting so boring. From what I heard war is the same pvp wise as wow although it has open pvp unlike wow.
I also agree with the poster above saying war doesn't offer anything new. AoC looks interesting while war looks like wow fancied up with the same boring reptition in every aspect of the game.
It looks like war is a copy of wow, with different lore.
Actually, WOW is a copy of the Warhammer series, Blizzard just beat them to the punch Warcraft may be a copy of Warhammer, Warhammer online looks like a copy of World of Warcraft
warhammer looks like warcraft, warcraft Looks like warhammer. warcraft is a copy of warhammer? warhammer was copied off of by warcraft? warcraft=warhammer? warcraft beat warhammer to the punch! warcraft sucks? warhammer is a copy of warcrafts suckage? Is that what we are talking about?
AoC is whats in!
lol, well said.
You are out of your mind crazy if you are a pvp fan and aren'y looking forward to at least trying out AoC's new combat system. Unlike AC's awesome pvp (DT anyone?), this upcoming pvp action isn't going to be accidental.
Originally posted by lupisenparis Actually can you provide some proof that wow copied warhammer?
WarHammer was a tabletop boardgame developed in the early 80's. I played it. Warcraft came out in the early/mid 90's. I played it. Unless I lost a decade somewhere, then Warhammer is about ten years older than Warcraft...Look it up!
Played Wow, D and L, AOC, GW, Eve, Rift and many more insignificant games.
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After following AoC for quite some time it would seem that AoC at it's core is more similar to WoW. especially with the raiding, and PvE item importance. Just a couple things I've gathered from the community portal that made me die a little inside. It seems more and more every day that they're selling their mature content sticker rather than their gameplay. Oh well, hopefully they'll surprise me.
So far their PvP ideas are trying to be new but seem like they're loaded with flaws. hopefuly they'll surprise me there too.
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I live to fight, and fight to live.
So far their PvP ideas are trying to be new but seem like they're loaded with flaws. hopefuly they'll surprise me there too.
How would you say that AoC is the same as WoW in the form of raiding and item importance?
The Devs have clearly said that it will go out in Skill > Items in AoC.
Where in WoW, we have the entierly opposite.
So far their PvP ideas are trying to be new but seem like they're loaded with flaws. hopefuly they'll surprise me there too.
Or maybe AOC is simular to Anarchy Online? You know a game that came before WOW.. Im sick of people using WOW as a measuring stick.. Like they were the first ones to come up with raiding, crafting, pvp, etc..
Anarchy Online had raiding for valuable items as well.. Does that mean it was the camp and grind fest of running the same instance day in and day out for a chance that you could possible roll on someting that just might drop.. No, but it was raiding none the less. Just because one game screwed up on raiding that doesn't mean that they all did.
And do tell, what are these "Flaws" that you see in AOC's PVP.
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You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
Farbeit for me to agree with Tinybina but I have to agree in this instance. Some of you are simply grasping at straws here. What do some people find in Wow that allows them to pull a yardstick out and compare every new game to it??? I aquience that Wow has a big following but it is childish compared to AoC.(From what I've seen.)
And again, what is the flaw in Pvp that Tiny asked about that you are trying to hit a point on? What is your argument? Give us a hint...
Played Wow, D and L, AOC, GW, Eve, Rift and many more insignificant games.
I would have to agree with you in some ways distortion. I feel the different races in Warhammer offer more of a feeling of belonging than Conan which starts you out by yourself and doesn't really offer a place unless you join a clan/guild beforehand. But I have high hopes for both games. AoC in particular, just because Conan is a childhood hero of mine.
But again! People are comparing "new" games to Wow! It blows my mind! Warhammer has been around since the early 80's and is far deeper than Warcraft, which has been around since the mid 90's. So to all Wow advocates...drop it!
Played Wow, D and L, AOC, GW, Eve, Rift and many more insignificant games.
It´s simple as that, lack of knowledge and only one game to compare...so they commpare all with wow....
Edit : To be honest, it´s hard to judge whether WAR or AoC, both seem promising in it´s own ways, but i´m kinda stuck on that 18+ what conan promises, if it´s gonna be like two games would be comperably good i´d choose AoC due to the 18+...i don´t have anything against kids, don´t point me wrong, but...i just like to minimize the chance of people destroying another game thorugh unadultery,flaming n stuff, and imho most happened due immaturety...that´s why i´d chose aoc then...
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You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
Why does some idiot always have to make an "X vs. Y!" post?
The market's big enough for all of them if they're good. It's not like the two games will actually fight. These threads are just stupid. They're nothing more than a place for people to come and hate on eachother's games.
"Because it's easier to nitpick something than to be constructive." -roach5000
although both games still got unanswered questions as to HOW the good and the bad will be implemented, it should still be a q' of what style you prefer.. because of the war / wow similarities in style, I think I'll go for something different.
(besides, where are the skaven playable characters in war? huh? :P )
age of c0nan has to worry about both warhammer and thrones of chaos.. Aoc isnt as great as people make it out to be if you've played it at the gaming shows already...plus Funcom doesn't exactly have the greatest record of making bug free games.
www.warhammeronline.com
www.thronesofchaos.com
"Based on our teams experience I have no doubt that they will produce something that will compete with titles like Age of conan. Yes. Although it's sure to be good game also!
Played Wow, D and L, AOC, GW, Eve, Rift and many more insignificant games.
aoc looks sweet too, combat and movement remind me of ddo. wich was what i luved about ddo.
the look of WAR doesnt bother me so much knowing that blizzard copied it.
looking forward to both, for their own reasons.
hopefully theyl both have trials or something
Congratulations, you already know how the game will play on release, based on a few minutes of rushed experience in the ALPHA stage of the game. You must be extremely clairvoyent to have that kind of insight, bordering on telling the future.
As to Funcom's "record" Anarchy Online was game that was rushed to production, they are taking their time to properly test Age of Conan. Besides, AO was back and running in a few days after the failed launch, easily playable in only two months, and virtually bug free in 6 months. That hardly smacks of incompetence to me.
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
Hemingway
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You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
Congratulations, you already know how the game will play on release, based on a few minutes of rushed experience in the ALPHA stage of the game. You must be extremely clairvoyent to have that kind of insight, bordering on telling the future.
As to Funcom's "record" Anarchy Online was game that was rushed to production, they are taking their time to properly test Age of Conan. Besides, AO was back and running in a few days after the failed launch, easily playable in only two months, and virtually bug free in 6 months. That hardly smacks of incompetence to me.
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No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
Hemingway
All I have to say about this is that I don't care who bought Mourning and is trying to finish that game, I just want my $30 bucks back. Seriously though, I do like how the company that bought Mourning promised to give beta access to everyone who originally bought into Mourning ( I know it was against better judgement ) and yet I sit here with a little black cd case enclosed in which is a home made cd containing a Mourning game client and no beta access...sad, sad, sad...
to the point though...I doubt that any MMO has anything to worry about from Thrones of Chaos (not even SB).
Edit: To be fair though, they did send me an email telling me about ToC, but ya know, it just doesn't cut it...
MMO Vet since AOL Neverwinter Nights circa 1992. My MMO beat up your MMO. =S
Warcraft may be a copy of Warhammer, Warhammer online looks like a copy of World of Warcraft
warhammer looks like warcraft, warcraft Looks like warhammer. warcraft is a copy of warhammer? warhammer was copied off of by warcraft? warcraft=warhammer? warcraft beat warhammer to the punch! warcraft sucks? warhammer is a copy of warcrafts suckage? Is that what we are talking about?
AoC is whats in!
lol, well said.
You are out of your mind crazy if you are a pvp fan and aren'y looking forward to at least trying out AoC's new combat system. Unlike AC's awesome pvp (DT anyone?), this upcoming pvp action isn't going to be accidental.
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