So because you have "hope," it gives you the right to insult someone else's beliefs. Thanks for the enlightenment.
First, when did i insult? second thing, saying your grandfather was a monkey or a soup is pretty much by itself an insult.
First, when did i insult? second thing, saying your grandfather was a monkey or a soup is pretty much by itself an insult.
Making me backtrack to prove you said it...what a hassle.
In this case, why do they bother us believers and insult our beliefs? why? while they are the least in this entire earth who don't believe in anything.
Believers care for people more than anyone else, believe it or not.
With which I retorted "Your elitism disgusts me. You're basically saying that atheists are assholes for doing the same thing you are doing right now, but since you believe in heaven it's ok for you to do it." Then you said
Ahh, here's the difference, Atheists have no hope, we do, it doesn't get any simple than this.
So put it all together. You think you have the right to insult atheists because they lack "hope."
EDIT: And Onemuslim retreats when backed into yet another corner.
i didn't retreat, i was attending a nature's call
in anycase, I wasn't insulting.
Atheists: There's no hell or heaven, when you die that's it, it's blackness
And this is where i call it, they have no hope, because they themselves say it and approve of it
Atheists: You have a common ancestor, an ape-like creature.
Believers: and where did that ape-like creature come from?
Atheists: From monkies of course.
that by itself is an insult to every single human being.
Atheists: your grandest of daddies were a soup.
Believers: how insulting...
Now modjoe, do you understand where i'm coming from? please do, pleeeeeease understand.
i didn't retreat, i was attending a nature's call
in anycase, I wasn't insulting.
Atheists: There's no hell or heaven, when you die that's it, it's blackness
And this is where i call it, they have no hope, because they themselves say it and approve of it
Atheists: You have a common ancestor, an ape-like creature.
Believers: and where did that ape-like creature come from?
Atheists: From monkies of course.
that by itself is an insult to every single human being.
Atheists: your grandest of daddies were a soup.
Believers: how insulting...
Now modjoe, do you understand where i'm coming from? please do, pleeeeeease understand.
How does it insult you? Why do you even care what somebody else believes? leave others belief in peace.
Saying it is just insulting and stupid man, it realty is, what do you mean i came from a monkey? not only that but people study it, and teach it in colleges and graduate for believing it and become proffessors and doctors, FOR BELIEVING THAT YOU ARE A MONKEY, this is way too much insults.
Saying it is just insulting and stupid man, it realty is, what do you mean i came from a monkey? not only that but people study it, and teach it in colleges and graduate for believing it and become proffessors and doctors, FOR BELIEVING THAT YOU ARE A MONKEY, this is way too much insults.
How does it insult you? Why do you even care what somebody else believes? leave others belief in peace.
Saying it is just insulting and stupid man, it realty is, what do you mean i came from a monkey? not only that but people study it, and teach it in colleges and graduate for believing it and become proffessors and doctors, FOR BELIEVING THAT YOU ARE A MONKEY, this is way too much insults.
Saying it is just insulting and stupid man, it realty is, what do you mean i came from a monkey? not only that but people study it, and teach it in colleges and graduate for believing it and become proffessors and doctors, FOR BELIEVING THAT YOU ARE A MONKEY, this is way too much insults. I can't stand your ignorance and elitism! Have you ever studied evolution? Do you understand the concept of darwinism? Do you not realize that humans are just animals like every other creature? Why do you think you are so special? Because some guy 1400 years ago said so? Is that not rediculous? People believing in what some guy said 1400, or 2000+ years ago (christians), that has no physical proof to back it up is amazingly ignorant. You probably don't understand primordial soup either. I cant stand how people are so oblivious and closed minded. Can you not imagine that there is no god, not even for a second? Please man, open your eyes and stop disregarding scientific proofs.
Originally posted by OneMuslim Saying it is just insulting and stupid man, it realty is, what do you mean i came from a monkey? not only that but people study it, and teach it in colleges and graduate for believing it and become proffessors and doctors, FOR BELIEVING THAT YOU ARE A MONKEY, this is way too much insults.
I Dont believe I'm a monkey, I dont believe you are a monkey. I do believe that they are exceptionally distant cousins, and not ancestors, of ours. In any case, monkeys are a split off the path a long time ago, we are (theoretically) much closer to the great apes, gorilas, chimps, bonobos, etc. You seem to be getting the wrong message from the concept of evolution.
In any case, suspend disbelief for a moment, imagine for just a few seconds that the theory is correct. Does it make you any less human? Any less capable of reason and intelligence? Does it make the societies we have built any less grand? The answer of course, is no. In fact, I think it makes it all the more meaningful, since we were able as a species to rise above all the obstacles around us, to achieve something that no creature was remotely capable of doing for billions of years.
Besides, I know plenty of humans I'd rather have replaced with an ape or two as far as being related to them goes.
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee. Hemingway
How does it insult you? Why do you even care what somebody else believes? leave others belief in peace.
Saying it is just insulting and stupid man, it realty is, what do you mean i came from a monkey? not only that but people study it, and teach it in colleges and graduate for believing it and become proffessors and doctors, FOR BELIEVING THAT YOU ARE A MONKEY, this is way too much insults.
Saying it is just insulting and stupid man, it realty is, what do you mean i came from a monkey? not only that but people study it, and teach it in colleges and graduate for believing it and become proffessors and doctors, FOR BELIEVING THAT YOU ARE A MONKEY, this is way too much insults. Not all non-believers believe in evolution. Soooo, for someone like me, who isn't shoving evolution down your throat but doesn't necissarily agree with you about this life and the next, what insults you? How does my disagreement about Allah insult you? You don't insult me by saying I was created out of thin air from an IPU. Though I don't see how someone saying that you possible evolved from a monkey is that insulting, either.
How does it insult you? Why do you even care what somebody else believes? leave others belief in peace.
Saying it is just insulting and stupid man, it realty is, what do you mean i came from a monkey? not only that but people study it, and teach it in colleges and graduate for believing it and become proffessors and doctors, FOR BELIEVING THAT YOU ARE A MONKEY, this is way too much insults.
Saying it is just insulting and stupid man, it realty is, what do you mean i came from a monkey? not only that but people study it, and teach it in colleges and graduate for believing it and become proffessors and doctors, FOR BELIEVING THAT YOU ARE A MONKEY, this is way too much insults. What exactly is stupid about it? it is very well possible. so people are stupid because they are actually researching a theory instead of reading a book that contains a load of magical things? oh the irony.
I honnestly don't see what is so insulting about it. it could very well be possible that we "evolved" from monkeys. humans and monkeys are similar in some ways. and if it was true, what would it change for you, besides that your religion gets proven wrong? nothing at all.
Huzzah! I got my first warning for that above post of mine... Been a long time coming I guess. I had a long rebuttal post in mind but with the current biased censorship going on I'll stop myself here. I'm just curious as to why my posts are getting deleted and I'm being warned while OneMuslim's constant stream of hate (the reason I was warned) posts go untended. Do we have a muslim mod out here?
Originally posted by Infliction Huzzah! I got my first warning for that above post of mine... Been a long time coming I guess. I had a long rebuttal post in mind but with the current biased censorship going on I'll stop myself here. I'm just curious as to why my posts are getting deleted and I'm being warned while OneMuslim's constant stream of hate (the reason I was warned) posts go untended. Do we have a muslim mod out here?
Welcome to my world, brother. Don't let the temptation to lash out get the best of you.
What exactly is stupid about it? it is very well possible. so people are stupid because they are actually researching a theory instead of reading a book that contains a load of magical things? oh the irony.
instead of telling me that my book is magic, go read it, and stop reading about stuff that never happened, oh the bigger irony.
I honnestly don't see what is so insulting about it. it could very well be possible that we "evolved" from monkeys. humans and monkeys are similar in some ways. and if it was true, what would it change for you, besides that your religion gets proven wrong? nothing at all.
telling me you're an animal is insulting to me intelligence.
Not all non-believers believe in evolution. Soooo, for someone like me, who isn't shoving evolution down your throat but doesn't necissarily agree with you about this life and the next, what insults you? How does my disagreement about Allah insult you? You don't insult me by saying I was created out of thin air from an IPU. Though I don't see how someone saying that you possible evolved from a monkey is that insulting, either.
You disagreement doesn't insult me, but creates a good arguement is kept at a mature level, at least what i have tried to do.
of course being created from nothing isn't insulting, but from monkies? come on, who would accept they were monkies except monkies? even a bull won't accept that possibility.
I can't stand your ignorance and elitism! Have you ever studied evolution? Do you understand the concept of darwinism? Do you not realize that humans are just animals like every other creature? Why do you think you are so special? Because some guy 1400 years ago said so? Is that not rediculous? People believing in what some guy said 1400, or 2000+ years ago (christians), that has no physical proof to back it up is amazingly ignorant. You probably don't understand primordial soup either. I cant stand how people are so oblivious and closed minded. Can you not imagine that there is no god, not even for a second? Please man, open your eyes and stop disregarding scientific proofs.
proofs? what proofs? show me...
and speaking of physical proof, it has been provided plenty of times thousands of years ago, no need for it today.
Funny thing is, most relegions cant be proven. The Bible is a poor translation, from an original that was put together from a bunch of stories that "cant" be proven or dis-proven. And these stories come from a group of people, that wanted to change their history.
Same goes for the other relegions, Mormans, muslums...etc...etc. All teach their own beliefs, but when questioned...its allways "Because the (insert religious book here) tells us so!"
Originally posted by Xexima Originally posted by ConverseSC Originally posted by Xexima Originally posted by ConverseSC Originally posted by mehhem I think this would be a great novel or movie. Ever seen Dogma? That movie is great and its full of religious parody.
You didn't get the point of Dogma at all did you?
Actually... That was the point of dogma, a religious parody.
No, it wasn't. At least not in my opinion. I thought it was a commentary on religious people believing to strongely, and closing their minds off to other things.
Don't see how it was "paroding" religion at all, besides adding comical elements to biblical references.
Have you never seen Dogma? Or do you just not know what a parody is? Because it is a funny or satirical piece of literature that is based on a serious event or piece of literature...
Dogma was MADE to piss of the Catholics, hence what It says right in the begining of the movie. I can't find it, but it is basically a disclaimer saying "if you don't like it, well fuck you."
Yes, I've seen Dogma, and yes I know what a parody is. Did you know the sky was blue? What's two plus two? Where do babies come from?
Until I see an interview where Kevin Smith says, "I made Dogma to piss of Catholics. OMG LOLZ RELIGIONFTL!", I'm going to have to declare you statement an opinion. The disclaimer (I don't actually remember it) was probably added for all the religious folk who were going to get offended while watching it. The "no sense of humor type".
Maybe I'm wrong, but I still think the point of the movie (besides to make people laugh) was to show the error in blind belief.
Originally posted by Aldaron Originally posted by viadi
If Jesus were alive today he'd be in a nut-house for talking to god. You know what praying is? That's right, talking to God! Last time I checked praying wasn't considered a mental illness worthy of psychiatric treatment.
He is with out a doubt, the worse thing that ever happened to mankind. Anti-Christian sentiment at it's finest! Bravo! He came said he is the son of god and never left any proof. What kind of proof you want? A big stone that says, "Jesus was here. Better recognize!" This action forced two millennia of argument. Same with Mohamed no proof has been left to prove they are who they said they were.
The sad thing is the faithless use Jesus to prove faith (paradox I know but…) and this shows how weak they really are. I find most people that believe in this shit are petty and mindless but above all plan old dumb. Oh inform us, enlightened one!
Originally posted by viadi im sorry but no its not. it may have been born in a cristian state but its not a product of it. had the religion had its say the world would still be flat and the sun would still be moving around us. it was people the had the foresight to think outside the box that slowley made the west what it is today.
The belief that the world was flat, the center of the cosmos, and the sun revolving around the earth, was never a Christian concept, but rather the Ptolemaic model adopted by the Church until the 16th century.
Your ignorance is shining.
what a wanker you just proved my point by trying to rebut it
the church takes a stand point formed by some guy that talks to god. then does every thing it can to keep that standpoint no matter what science says hence holding man back
religion is a evil, nasty, self serving, vile way of life and the sooner mankind can dump it into the abiss of history the better
What exactly is stupid about it? it is very well possible. so people are stupid because they are actually researching a theory instead of reading a book that contains a load of magical things? oh the irony. instead of telling me that my book is magic, go read it, and stop reading about stuff that never happened, oh the bigger irony. Sorry, but there IS magical stuff in that book of yours. you call them "miricales". get your facts right before you open that mouth of yours. Example, a city full of homosexuals that is destroyed by a volcano at the command of one being is magical.
I honnestly don't see what is so insulting about it. it could very well be possible that we "evolved" from monkeys. humans and monkeys are similar in some ways. and if it was true, what would it change for you, besides that your religion gets proven wrong? nothing at all. telling me you're an animal is insulting to me intelligence. It is said your EVOLVED from monkeys. it means you changed. stop being so narrow minded.
I can't stand your ignorance and elitism! Have you ever studied evolution? Do you understand the concept of darwinism? Do you not realize that humans are just animals like every other creature? Why do you think you are so special? Because some guy 1400 years ago said so? Is that not rediculous? People believing in what some guy said 1400, or 2000+ years ago (christians), that has no physical proof to back it up is amazingly ignorant. You probably don't understand primordial soup either. I cant stand how people are so oblivious and closed minded. Can you not imagine that there is no god, not even for a second? Please man, open your eyes and stop disregarding scientific proofs.
proofs? what proofs? show me...
and speaking of physical proof, it has been provided plenty of times thousands of years ago, no need for it today.
Not really, ofcourse it is still needed today. proof has been provided plenty of times thousands of years ago? you don't know that. there is no proof that it is proven all those years ago.
I can't stand your ignorance and elitism! Have you ever studied evolution? Do you understand the concept of darwinism? Do you not realize that humans are just animals like every other creature? Why do you think you are so special? Because some guy 1400 years ago said so? Is that not rediculous? People believing in what some guy said 1400, or 2000+ years ago (christians), that has no physical proof to back it up is amazingly ignorant. You probably don't understand primordial soup either. I cant stand how people are so oblivious and closed minded. Can you not imagine that there is no god, not even for a second? Please man, open your eyes and stop disregarding scientific proofs. Yea darwinism huh intereseting.. Same darwin that came up with the theory of evolution is it the same darwin that stated he was wrong in the theory of evolution on his deathbed? were are talking about the same guy right? so maby you should do alittle research as well my friend Physical proof hmm just walk outside and feel the sun beating down on you and the coolness of the wind you cant possible think that it all came from a big boom can you seriously? and my eyes are not closed to the fact that there is or isnt a god but i believe and have faith that there is.. So lets say you are right and there is no god i die and nothing happens i just cease to exsist... But lets say im Right and there is a God were does that leave you? so if im wrong im wrong but if im right you may have some problems either way good luck with the debate
proofs? what proofs? show me...
and speaking of physical proof, it has been provided plenty of times thousands of years ago, no need for it today.
Originally posted by sly220 Originally posted by OneMuslim
Originally posted by Xexima
I can't stand your ignorance and elitism! Have you ever studied evolution? Do you understand the concept of darwinism? Do you not realize that humans are just animals like every other creature? Why do you think you are so special? Because some guy 1400 years ago said so? Is that not rediculous? People believing in what some guy said 1400, or 2000+ years ago (christians), that has no physical proof to back it up is amazingly ignorant. You probably don't understand primordial soup either. I cant stand how people are so oblivious and closed minded. Can you not imagine that there is no god, not even for a second? Please man, open your eyes and stop disregarding scientific proofs. Yea darwinism huh intereseting.. Same darwin that came up with the theory of evolution is it the same darwin that stated he was wrong in the theory of evolution on his deathbed? were are talking about the same guy right? so maby you should do alittle research as well my friend Physical proof hmm just walk outside and feel the sun beating down on you and the coolness of the wind you cant possible think that it all came from a big boom can you seriously? and my eyes are not closed to the fact that there is or isnt a god but i believe and have faith that there is.. So lets say you are right and there is no god i die and nothing happens i just cease to exsist... But lets say im Right and there is a God were does that leave you? so if im wrong im wrong but if im right you may have some problems either way good luck with the debate If it was from a bigboom or not is unknown. but lets say a superior being created the universe, then how did the superior being came to existance?
proofs? what proofs? show me...
and speaking of physical proof, it has been provided plenty of times thousands of years ago, no need for it today.
Originally posted by Gameloading Originally posted by OneMuslim
Originally posted by Gameloading
What exactly is stupid about it? it is very well possible. so people are stupid because they are actually researching a theory instead of reading a book that contains a load of magical things? oh the irony. instead of telling me that my book is magic, go read it, and stop reading about stuff that never happened, oh the bigger irony. Sorry, but there IS magical stuff in that book of yours. you call them "miricales". get your facts right before you open that mouth of yours. Example, a city full of homosexuals that is destroyed by a volcano at the command of one being is magical. Miracle def: any amazing or wonderful occurrence Magic:any art that invokes supernatural powers,magic trick: an illusory feat; considered magical by naive observers Im thinking there two different things my friend dont think a miracle is an illusion. Im thinking there pretty real
I honnestly don't see what is so insulting about it. it could very well be possible that we "evolved" from monkeys. humans and monkeys are similar in some ways. and if it was true, what would it change for you, besides that your religion gets proven wrong? nothing at all. telling me you're an animal is insulting to me intelligence. It is said your EVOLVED from monkeys. it means you changed. stop being so narrow minded. oh and we do share some dna i think its 11 out of 13 right with monkeys correct me if im wrong. however there is no missing link in the chain that can be found. kinda like big foot if it was true we would have found something by now for God sakes we found million year old bones for dinosaurses but we can find the link between monkeys and humans if there was a link we coulda found somthing.. Oh we did and it was a fake name eludes me right now but there was a supposive link..
telling me you're an animal is insulting to me intelligence.
It is said your EVOLVED from monkeys. it means you changed. stop being so narrow minded.
oh and we do share some dna i think its 11 out of 13 right with monkeys correct me if im wrong. however there is no missing link in the chain that can be found. kinda like big foot if it was true we would have found something by now for God sakes we found million year old bones for dinosaurses but we can find the link between monkeys and humans if there was a link we coulda found somthing.. Oh we did and it was a fake name eludes me right now but there was a supposive link..
Originally posted by Gameloading Originally posted by sly220 Originally posted by OneMuslim
Originally posted by Xexima I can't stand your ignorance and elitism! Have you ever studied evolution? Do you understand the concept of darwinism? Do you not realize that humans are just animals like every other creature? Why do you think you are so special? Because some guy 1400 years ago said so? Is that not rediculous? People believing in what some guy said 1400, or 2000+ years ago (christians), that has no physical proof to back it up is amazingly ignorant. You probably don't understand primordial soup either. I cant stand how people are so oblivious and closed minded. Can you not imagine that there is no god, not even for a second? Please man, open your eyes and stop disregarding scientific proofs. Yea darwinism huh intereseting.. Same darwin that came up with the theory of evolution is it the same darwin that stated he was wrong in the theory of evolution on his deathbed? were are talking about the same guy right? so maby you should do alittle research as well my friend Physical proof hmm just walk outside and feel the sun beating down on you and the coolness of the wind you cant possible think that it all came from a big boom can you seriously? and my eyes are not closed to the fact that there is or isnt a god but i believe and have faith that there is.. So lets say you are right and there is no god i die and nothing happens i just cease to exsist... But lets say im Right and there is a God were does that leave you? so if im wrong im wrong but if im right you may have some problems either way good luck with the debate If it was from a bigboom or not is unknown. but lets say a superior being created the universe, then how did the superior being came to existance? Great quetion but im not here to dispute how the superior being came to be im disputing that there is one. there is no proof for either side theologines spend there lives debating these issues were not gonna solve the question in a forum lol
proofs? what proofs? show me... and speaking of physical proof, it has been provided plenty of times thousands of years ago, no need for it today. Im not muslim but im with you
I can't stand your ignorance and elitism! Have you ever studied evolution? Do you understand the concept of darwinism? Do you not realize that humans are just animals like every other creature? Why do you think you are so special? Because some guy 1400 years ago said so? Is that not rediculous? People believing in what some guy said 1400, or 2000+ years ago (christians), that has no physical proof to back it up is amazingly ignorant. You probably don't understand primordial soup either. I cant stand how people are so oblivious and closed minded. Can you not imagine that there is no god, not even for a second? Please man, open your eyes and stop disregarding scientific proofs. Yea darwinism huh intereseting.. Same darwin that came up with the theory of evolution is it the same darwin that stated he was wrong in the theory of evolution on his deathbed? were are talking about the same guy right? so maby you should do alittle research as well my friend Physical proof hmm just walk outside and feel the sun beating down on you and the coolness of the wind you cant possible think that it all came from a big boom can you seriously? and my eyes are not closed to the fact that there is or isnt a god but i believe and have faith that there is.. So lets say you are right and there is no god i die and nothing happens i just cease to exsist... But lets say im Right and there is a God were does that leave you? so if im wrong im wrong but if im right you may have some problems either way good luck with the debate If it was from a bigboom or not is unknown. but lets say a superior being created the universe, then how did the superior being came to existance? Great quetion but im not here to dispute how the superior being came to be im disputing that there is one. there is no proof for either side theologines spend there lives debating these issues were not gonna solve the question in a forum lol
proofs? what proofs? show me... and speaking of physical proof, it has been provided plenty of times thousands of years ago, no need for it today. Im not muslim but im with you
Originally posted by sly220 Originally posted by Gameloading
Originally posted by OneMuslim
Originally posted by Gameloading
What exactly is stupid about it? it is very well possible. so people are stupid because they are actually researching a theory instead of reading a book that contains a load of magical things? oh the irony. instead of telling me that my book is magic, go read it, and stop reading about stuff that never happened, oh the bigger irony. Sorry, but there IS magical stuff in that book of yours. you call them "miricales". get your facts right before you open that mouth of yours. Example, a city full of homosexuals that is destroyed by a volcano at the command of one being is magical. Miracle def: any amazing or wonderful occurrence Magic:any art that invokes supernatural powers,magic trick: an illusory feat; considered magical by naive observers Im thinking there two different things my friend dont think a miracle is an illusion. Im thinking there pretty real
Commanding a volcano to corrupt and destroy an entire city sounds like supernatural powers to me, no?
I honnestly don't see what is so insulting about it. it could very well be possible that we "evolved" from monkeys. humans and monkeys are similar in some ways. and if it was true, what would it change for you, besides that your religion gets proven wrong? nothing at all. telling me you're an animal is insulting to me intelligence. It is said your EVOLVED from monkeys. it means you changed. stop being so narrow minded. oh and we do share some dna i think its 11 out of 13 right with monkeys correct me if im wrong. however there is no missing link in the chain that can be found. kinda like big foot if it was true we would have found something by now for God sakes we found million year old bones for dinosaurses but we can find the link between monkeys and humans if there was a link we coulda found somthing.. Oh we did and it was a fake name eludes me right now but there was a supposive link..
I'm not an expert on evolution, but to me, it does sound more logic then believing a book with magical stuff. its still being researched, so who knows
telling me you're an animal is insulting to me intelligence.
It is said your EVOLVED from monkeys. it means you changed. stop being so narrow minded.
oh and we do share some dna i think its 11 out of 13 right with monkeys correct me if im wrong. however there is no missing link in the chain that can be found. kinda like big foot if it was true we would have found something by now for God sakes we found million year old bones for dinosaurses but we can find the link between monkeys and humans if there was a link we coulda found somthing.. Oh we did and it was a fake name eludes me right now but there was a supposive link..
The belief that the world was flat, the center of the cosmos, and the sun revolving around the earth, was never a Christian concept, but rather the Ptolemaic model adopted by the Church until the 16th century.
Your ignorance is shining.
what a wanker you just proved my point by trying to rebut it
the church takes a stand point formed by some guy that talks to god. then does every thing it can to keep that standpoint no matter what science says hence holding man back
You really are intent as coming off as ignorant, aren't you?
Ptolemy was a hellenized egyptian, hardly a man who "talks to God". But oh my, the Church taking a scientific standpoint alongside a "heathen", who woulda thunk it?!
religion is a evil, nasty, self serving, vile way of life and the sooner mankind can dump it into the abiss of history the better
The sooner you can spell simple words like, "abyss", the better.
"Fear not death; for the sooner we die, the longer shall we be immortal."
Originally posted by Gameloading Originally posted by sly220 Originally posted by Gameloading
Originally posted by OneMuslim
Originally posted by Gameloading
What exactly is stupid about it? it is very well possible. so people are stupid because they are actually researching a theory instead of reading a book that contains a load of magical things? oh the irony. instead of telling me that my book is magic, go read it, and stop reading about stuff that never happened, oh the bigger irony. Sorry, but there IS magical stuff in that book of yours. you call them "miricales". get your facts right before you open that mouth of yours. Example, a city full of homosexuals that is destroyed by a volcano at the command of one being is magical. Miracle def: any amazing or wonderful occurrence Magic:any art that invokes supernatural powers,magic trick: an illusory feat; considered magical by naive observers Im thinking there two different things my friend dont think a miracle is an illusion. Im thinking there pretty real
Commanding a volcano to corrupt and destroy an entire city sounds like supernatural powers to me, no? Commanding a volcano to corrupt and destroy an entire city sounds like supernatural powers to me, no?
No sounds like a volcano erupted like they do. Im thinking thats there job right? your basing your entire argument over a volcano? here how about this one Magic=Jesus healed a blind man Magic or Miracle? Magic=Moses parted the red sea so the isrealites could get out of egypt magic or miracle? Just giving you more ammo
I honnestly don't see what is so insulting about it. it could very well be possible that we "evolved" from monkeys. humans and monkeys are similar in some ways. and if it was true, what would it change for you, besides that your religion gets proven wrong? nothing at all. telling me you're an animal is insulting to me intelligence. It is said your EVOLVED from monkeys. it means you changed. stop being so narrow minded. oh and we do share some dna i think its 11 out of 13 right with monkeys correct me if im wrong. however there is no missing link in the chain that can be found. kinda like big foot if it was true we would have found something by now for God sakes we found million year old bones for dinosaurses but we can find the link between monkeys and humans if there was a link we coulda found somthing.. Oh we did and it was a fake name eludes me right now but there was a supposive link..
I'm not an expert on evolution, but to me, it does sound more logic then believing a book with magical stuff. its still being researched, so who knows Evolution=In the life sciences, evolution is a change in the traits of living organisms over generations, including the emergence of new species. Like a chicken becoming a snake.. Thats evolution is it not?
telling me you're an animal is insulting to me intelligence.
It is said your EVOLVED from monkeys. it means you changed. stop being so narrow minded.
oh and we do share some dna i think its 11 out of 13 right with monkeys correct me if im wrong. however there is no missing link in the chain that can be found. kinda like big foot if it was true we would have found something by now for God sakes we found million year old bones for dinosaurses but we can find the link between monkeys and humans if there was a link we coulda found somthing.. Oh we did and it was a fake name eludes me right now but there was a supposive link..
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telling me you're an animal is insulting to me intelligence.
It is said your EVOLVED from monkeys. it means you changed. stop being so narrow minded.
oh and we do share some dna i think its 11 out of 13 right with monkeys correct me if im wrong. however there is no missing link in the chain that can be found. kinda like big foot if it was true we would have found something by now for God sakes we found million year old bones for dinosaurses but we can find the link between monkeys and humans if there was a link we coulda found somthing.. Oh we did and it was a fake name eludes me right now but there was a supposive link..
I'm not an expert on evolution, but to me, it does sound more logic then believing a book with magical stuff. its still being researched, so who knows
Evolution=In the life sciences, evolution is a change in the traits of living organisms over generations, including the emergence of new species. Like a chicken becoming a snake.. Thats evolution is it not?
telling me you're an animal is insulting to me intelligence.
It is said your EVOLVED from monkeys. it means you changed. stop being so narrow minded.
oh and we do share some dna i think its 11 out of 13 right with monkeys correct me if im wrong. however there is no missing link in the chain that can be found. kinda like big foot if it was true we would have found something by now for God sakes we found million year old bones for dinosaurses but we can find the link between monkeys and humans if there was a link we coulda found somthing.. Oh we did and it was a fake name eludes me right now but there was a supposive link..
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telling me you're an animal is insulting to me intelligence.
It is said your EVOLVED from monkeys. it means you changed. stop being so narrow minded.
oh and we do share some dna i think its 11 out of 13 right with monkeys correct me if im wrong. however there is no missing link in the chain that can be found. kinda like big foot if it was true we would have found something by now for God sakes we found million year old bones for dinosaurses but we can find the link between monkeys and humans if there was a link we coulda found somthing.. Oh we did and it was a fake name eludes me right now but there was a supposive link..
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i didn't retreat, i was attending a nature's call
in anycase, I wasn't insulting.
Atheists: There's no hell or heaven, when you die that's it, it's blackness
And this is where i call it, they have no hope, because they themselves say it and approve of it
Atheists: You have a common ancestor, an ape-like creature.
Believers: and where did that ape-like creature come from?
Atheists: From monkies of course.
that by itself is an insult to every single human being.
Atheists: your grandest of daddies were a soup.
Believers: how insulting...
Now modjoe, do you understand where i'm coming from? please do, pleeeeeease understand.
I can't stand your ignorance and elitism! Have you ever studied evolution? Do you understand the concept of darwinism? Do you not realize that humans are just animals like every other creature? Why do you think you are so special? Because some guy 1400 years ago said so? Is that not rediculous? People believing in what some guy said 1400, or 2000+ years ago (christians), that has no physical proof to back it up is amazingly ignorant. You probably don't understand primordial soup either. I cant stand how people are so oblivious and closed minded. Can you not imagine that there is no god, not even for a second? Please man, open your eyes and stop disregarding scientific proofs.
I Dont believe I'm a monkey, I dont believe you are a monkey. I do believe that they are exceptionally distant cousins, and not ancestors, of ours. In any case, monkeys are a split off the path a long time ago, we are (theoretically) much closer to the great apes, gorilas, chimps, bonobos, etc. You seem to be getting the wrong message from the concept of evolution.
In any case, suspend disbelief for a moment, imagine for just a few seconds that the theory is correct. Does it make you any less human? Any less capable of reason and intelligence? Does it make the societies we have built any less grand? The answer of course, is no. In fact, I think it makes it all the more meaningful, since we were able as a species to rise above all the obstacles around us, to achieve something that no creature was remotely capable of doing for billions of years.
Besides, I know plenty of humans I'd rather have replaced with an ape or two as far as being related to them goes.
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
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Not all non-believers believe in evolution. Soooo, for someone like me, who isn't shoving evolution down your throat but doesn't necissarily agree with you about this life and the next, what insults you? How does my disagreement about Allah insult you? You don't insult me by saying I was created out of thin air from an IPU. Though I don't see how someone saying that you possible evolved from a monkey is that insulting, either.
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Saying it is just insulting and stupid man, it realty is, what do you mean i came from a monkey? not only that but people study it, and teach it in colleges and graduate for believing it and become proffessors and doctors, FOR BELIEVING THAT YOU ARE A MONKEY, this is way too much insults.
What exactly is stupid about it? it is very well possible. so people are stupid because they are actually researching a theory instead of reading a book that contains a load of magical things? oh the irony.
I honnestly don't see what is so insulting about it. it could very well be possible that we "evolved" from monkeys. humans and monkeys are similar in some ways. and if it was true, what would it change for you, besides that your religion gets proven wrong? nothing at all.
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proofs? what proofs? show me...
and speaking of physical proof, it has been provided plenty of times thousands of years ago, no need for it today.
Amazing thread.....
Funny thing is, most relegions cant be proven. The Bible is a poor translation, from an original that was put together from a bunch of stories that "cant" be proven or dis-proven. And these stories come from a group of people, that wanted to change their history.
Same goes for the other relegions, Mormans, muslums...etc...etc. All teach their own beliefs, but when questioned...its allways "Because the (insert religious book here) tells us so!"
Actually... That was the point of dogma, a religious parody.
No, it wasn't. At least not in my opinion. I thought it was a commentary on religious people believing to strongely, and closing their minds off to other things.
Don't see how it was "paroding" religion at all, besides adding comical elements to biblical references.
Have you never seen Dogma? Or do you just not know what a parody is? Because it is a funny or satirical piece of literature that is based on a serious event or piece of literature...
Dogma was MADE to piss of the Catholics, hence what It says right in the begining of the movie. I can't find it, but it is basically a disclaimer saying "if you don't like it, well fuck you."
Yes, I've seen Dogma, and yes I know what a parody is. Did you know the sky was blue? What's two plus two? Where do babies come from?
Until I see an interview where Kevin Smith says, "I made Dogma to piss of Catholics. OMG LOLZ RELIGIONFTL!", I'm going to have to declare you statement an opinion. The disclaimer (I don't actually remember it) was probably added for all the religious folk who were going to get offended while watching it. The "no sense of humor type".
Maybe I'm wrong, but I still think the point of the movie (besides to make people laugh) was to show the error in blind belief.
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im sorry but no its not. it may have been born in a cristian state but its not a product of it. had the religion had its say the world would still be flat and the sun would still be moving around us. it was people the had the foresight to think outside the box that slowley made the west what it is today.
The belief that the world was flat, the center of the cosmos, and the sun revolving around the earth, was never a Christian concept, but rather the Ptolemaic model adopted by the Church until the 16th century.
Your ignorance is shining.
what a wanker you just proved my point by trying to rebut it
the church takes a stand point formed by some guy that talks to god. then does every thing it can to keep that standpoint no matter what science says hence holding man back
religion is a evil, nasty, self serving, vile way of life and the sooner mankind can dump it into the abiss of history the better
Tin Foil hats dont work.. its all a conspiracy
proofs? what proofs? show me...
and speaking of physical proof, it has been provided plenty of times thousands of years ago, no need for it today.
Not really, ofcourse it is still needed today. proof has been provided plenty of times thousands of years ago? you don't know that. there is no proof that it is proven all those years ago.
proofs? what proofs? show me...
and speaking of physical proof, it has been provided plenty of times thousands of years ago, no need for it today.
Im not muslim but im with you
proofs? what proofs? show me...
and speaking of physical proof, it has been provided plenty of times thousands of years ago, no need for it today.
Im not muslim but im with you
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