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Age of Conan Developer taking cheap shots on Darkfall
Wondered abit why Tasos were so on the offence in last Developer Journal towards (as i read it )especially the game Age of Conan and its develpers Funcom.
This might be one of the reasons behind all the turbulance. A thread from the Age of Conan website. Some cheap shots from a Age of Conan developer.
http://forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=19320&page=3
In this thread you can read about statements like this from Developer Athelan.
[QUOTE] Athelan- developer of Age of Conan:
Pre-Order now for the low low price of only 6 payments of 99.99 and we will throw in this brand new kitchen sink for free, AND WAIT THATS NOT ALL get this complete box set of ABBA's greatest hits!... AND WE MUST BEEEE CRAAAAZZZZYY BECAUSE NOT ONLY ARE WE GOING TO GIVE YOU THAT BUT I AM GOING TO GIVE YOU THE COMBO JUICER SUPER SQUIEGEE HIGH POWER WASHING FULLY CARBIDE KITCHEN KUNG FU IRON CHEF KNIFE SET! BUY NOW!
Thats what that video makes me think of.
I mean if the game comes out with 1/10th of what is claimed there. If it only delivered on skill based, open pvp that was fun. I would check it out at least. But anytime I see claims like that I just can't take it serious. But thats a fan movie so hopefully they are not promising all that. [/QUOTE]
Another one from same developer and same thread-
[QUOTE] Athelan- developer of Age of Conan:
Dont they have like infinite time and money now thanks to some rich sheik's son from the middle east?[/QUOTE]
And the last one i found in same thread-
[QUOTE] Athelan- developer of Age of Conan:
Well there is a big difference between making some promises and not being able to deliver everything, and literally promising everything :P
It's like saying I promise to buy you a new car by the end of the year. At the end of the year I didn't buy you a brand new BMW I ended up buying a Honda.
But if I promised to buy you a Ferrari, and said no not just a Ferrari but a Ferrari Enzo, with custom solid gold rims, and full leather interior custom made out of lambskin. Then delivered you a used 1983 Mazda, or a toy car looking like a Ferrari ;p. [/QUOTE]
This kind of behaviour is really tasteless and is hitting below the belt. No wonder Tasos gave some pounches to Funcom after reading this.
And Tasos own responce to this turbulance can be read in thread link below on the Darkfall board and its way more mature then the represant from Funcom outburst on Darkfall developers and their game.
http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=32653
[QUOTE] Tasos Flambouras- Darkfall Developer :
You'll never catch Darkfall developers taking cheap shots against other MMOs. Aside from adhering to professional courtesy standards, we're not that concerned about them to bother. You shouldn't be either.
I'll lock this thread now if that's alright.[/QUOTE]
Comments
Dont get me wrong, im no fan of AoC. AoC dev's or anyone has the right to poke fun at the DF dev's.
1. AoC dev's have made many videos, talked with players all through the making of the game and people are in beta.
2. All Darkfall dev's have is forumfall, full of grown adults that behave worse than pigs eating cold slop. DF dev's do nothing but string people along like dogs on a leash.
I know what you mean by Professional Curtesy but the vast majority think the same as him & the above poster , its a sad day when a cummunity has to constantly make up excuses for there developers & in return get nothing which has been happening for yrs, i think the AoC dev was brave to put it into some kinda context for the die hard Darkfall fans , he would understand alot better than any fanboi.
They are both privately funded companies, looking at their own interests. Why would I care about their affairs?
If they can deliver a product I like, more power to them. If not, well ... talk is cheap.
Funcom is about to launch their low fantasy MMO, and to many people's eyes it's going to be a fail of epic proportions. But I don't know which is worse, delivering a sub par product or keeping a community on hold with nothing but promises?
Well, I have to side with the AoC developer here. I have coded myself plenty of 3D applications with DX and I know how easy/hard it can be to make a video like the latest Darkfall one.
Now please add the code to maintain a persistent world where you have at least a thousand players interact simultanously. I think thats where the AoC Dev was coming from. Its a whole 'nother story to have a running client instead of a eyecandy mockup.
I'm also not sure where the "epic fail" comment about AoC is coming from - last time I played the game it looked pretty awesome to me. Sure, some things needed to be fixed, but I guess that has been done by now and they are only polishing a few more things atm.
Good points to a point but some are facts & some are Conjectour at this point anyway & facts really are that Darkfall Devs just talk & proberly will till they hit teh Decade mark now thats scary.
As for Epic failure i dont know about that but i doubt it , but forsome people yes the Game will fail like LoTR failed for me but for some its a Gem, its all a matter of interpretation based on your own values & expectations, theres no fail unless the CLOSED sign goes up.
Sorry i reread & sounds like a tryin to pin you down i was just venting little on those points only.
I am glad the darkfall guys have the maturity to just not respond
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hmm, does Tasos say AoC or Funcom in the journal? I have to read it again. Otherwise its like yelling "idiote" in a crowd and see who responce to it.
No actually your right, he didnt. Edited the original post. What i write is my interpretation of whats readable in the latest developer journal.
Otan tha bgaloun ta gaidouria kerata, tha bgalei kai i Adventurine to Darkfall.
or
AoC developer would be taking cheap shots on Darkfall if the later was actually a game in development. Right now we have one developer (of a product that may be released in a sad and bad state, but released nevertheless) compared to something that if it ever gets released, will be played by our grandchildren, since it won't happen anytime this century from the looks of it.
now i hope darkfall does launch soon and rapes aoc's playerbase. such professionalism.
http://www.soesucks.net/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=10
beta is at least this year...
Interview from 2001, by yours truly: MMORPG:
Age of Conan has been in development since 2003, so 3 years less and they will have the open beta in a month and the release on 20th of may. From this perspective the AoC dev has every reason to be critical when people start comparing or asking for Darkfall features on their community forums/blogs.
Imagine you are a professional engineer and created a car. Then someone comes along and asks you: "but why can't it fly? My neighbor has drawn a car with Photoshop that has wings and can fly to the moon, it also comes with two pornstar actresses in the backseat." Wouldn't you doubt that its highly likely to ever be built and able to all the things the Photoshop guy promises?
Make no mistake - Darkfall is a mockup, a showcase. As an entrepreneur thats all you want really in the beginning, because thats what you take to your investors and try to get financing with. But comes the time for a reality check: who of you has actually played Darkfall? Right, who has insights on classes, skills, quests, etc? No one, because most of that information does not exist yet.
I know how appealing the two videos of Darkfall are, but try to be reasonable. I know after watching the Matrix some of you also thought you can plug a cable into your neck and be Neo and hack the world, but those of us who have not yet lost the grip on reality will stick with a game that is about to be released, instead of the vague promises of Darkfall.
lol
Lmfao... now thats funny.
& Gabbz quality post dude.
No offense, but after reading that thread you linked on the DF forums.....I have not seen such a bitter crowd of people since some of the Pre-CU SWG vets forums.
lol, this is legendary, it's going straight into my sig
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Age of Conan has been in development since 2003, so 3 years less and they will have the open beta in a month and the release on 20th of may. From this perspective the AoC dev has every reason to be critical when people start comparing or asking for Darkfall features on their community forums/blogs.
Imagine you are a professional engineer and created a car. Then someone comes along and asks you: "but why can't it fly? My neighbor has drawn a car with Photoshop that has wings and can fly to the moon, it also comes with two pornstar actresses in the backseat." Wouldn't you doubt that its highly likely to ever be built and able to all the things the Photoshop guy promises?
Make no mistake - Darkfall is a mockup, a showcase. As an entrepreneur thats all you want really in the beginning, because thats what you take to your investors and try to get financing with. But comes the time for a reality check: who of you has actually played Darkfall? Right, who has insights on classes, skills, quests, etc? No one, because most of that information does not exist yet.
I know how appealing the two videos of Darkfall are, but try to be reasonable. I know after watching the Matrix some of you also thought you can plug a cable into your neck and be Neo and hack the world, but those of us who have not yet lost the grip on reality will stick with a game that is about to be released, instead of the vague promises of Darkfall.
Team Fortress 2 " took nine years to develop, and how good can a MMO be that have a quick development? Or so to say: how can anyone think a quick development is something to bragg about?
Age of Conan has been in development since 2003, so 3 years less and they will have the open beta in a month and the release on 20th of may. From this perspective the AoC dev has every reason to be critical when people start comparing or asking for Darkfall features on their community forums/blogs.
Imagine you are a professional engineer and created a car. Then someone comes along and asks you: "but why can't it fly? My neighbor has drawn a car with Photoshop that has wings and can fly to the moon, it also comes with two pornstar actresses in the backseat." Wouldn't you doubt that its highly likely to ever be built and able to all the things the Photoshop guy promises?
Make no mistake - Darkfall is a mockup, a showcase. As an entrepreneur thats all you want really in the beginning, because thats what you take to your investors and try to get financing with. But comes the time for a reality check: who of you has actually played Darkfall? Right, who has insights on classes, skills, quests, etc? No one, because most of that information does not exist yet.
I know how appealing the two videos of Darkfall are, but try to be reasonable. I know after watching the Matrix some of you also thought you can plug a cable into your neck and be Neo and hack the world, but those of us who have not yet lost the grip on reality will stick with a game that is about to be released, instead of the vague promises of Darkfall.
Team Fortress 2 " took nine years to develop, and how good can a MMO be that have a quick development? Or so to say: how can anyone think a quick development is something to bragg about?
I agree, rushing a game isn't something to be proud of, besides darkfall was completely restart in 2004 , so it's dev time is shorter than AOC
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Wauw.. Well said Tasos!
... On a side note, I find it quite fascinating that a developer from Age of Conan acts this way! It's clearly a sign of fear..
I dont like the idea of the AoC devs beeing afriad. That would mean thay have a weak product, and dont have 100% faith in it.
lol, this is legendary, it's going straight into my sig
I'm glad you enjoyed it.
I dont like the idea of the AoC devs beeing afriad. That would mean thay have a weak product, and dont have 100% faith in it.
There have been alot of 'rumours' that you can't stray from a certain path of terrain in AOC, similar to guild wars.
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Age of Conan has been in development since 2003, so 3 years less and they will have the open beta in a month and the release on 20th of may. From this perspective the AoC dev has every reason to be critical when people start comparing or asking for Darkfall features on their community forums/blogs.
Imagine you are a professional engineer and created a car. Then someone comes along and asks you: "but why can't it fly? My neighbor has drawn a car with Photoshop that has wings and can fly to the moon, it also comes with two pornstar actresses in the backseat." Wouldn't you doubt that its highly likely to ever be built and able to all the things the Photoshop guy promises?
Make no mistake - Darkfall is a mockup, a showcase. As an entrepreneur thats all you want really in the beginning, because thats what you take to your investors and try to get financing with. But comes the time for a reality check: who of you has actually played Darkfall? Right, who has insights on classes, skills, quests, etc? No one, because most of that information does not exist yet.
I know how appealing the two videos of Darkfall are, but try to be reasonable. I know after watching the Matrix some of you also thought you can plug a cable into your neck and be Neo and hack the world, but those of us who have not yet lost the grip on reality will stick with a game that is about to be released, instead of the vague promises of Darkfall.
Team Fortress 2 " took nine years to develop, and how good can a MMO be that have a quick development? Or so to say: how can anyone think a quick development is something to bragg about?
I agree, rushing a game isn't something to be proud of, besides darkfall was completely restart in 2004 , so it's dev time is shorter than AOC
Wait...how can you say development was restarted when one of the devs themselves stated it's been in full time development since 2000? Did they just forget to add they had to restart again in 2004?
Age of Conan has been in development since 2003, so 3 years less and they will have the open beta in a month and the release on 20th of may. From this perspective the AoC dev has every reason to be critical when people start comparing or asking for Darkfall features on their community forums/blogs.
Imagine you are a professional engineer and created a car. Then someone comes along and asks you: "but why can't it fly? My neighbor has drawn a car with Photoshop that has wings and can fly to the moon, it also comes with two pornstar actresses in the backseat." Wouldn't you doubt that its highly likely to ever be built and able to all the things the Photoshop guy promises?
Make no mistake - Darkfall is a mockup, a showcase. As an entrepreneur thats all you want really in the beginning, because thats what you take to your investors and try to get financing with. But comes the time for a reality check: who of you has actually played Darkfall? Right, who has insights on classes, skills, quests, etc? No one, because most of that information does not exist yet.
I know how appealing the two videos of Darkfall are, but try to be reasonable. I know after watching the Matrix some of you also thought you can plug a cable into your neck and be Neo and hack the world, but those of us who have not yet lost the grip on reality will stick with a game that is about to be released, instead of the vague promises of Darkfall.
Team Fortress 2 " took nine years to develop, and how good can a MMO be that have a quick development? Or so to say: how can anyone think a quick development is something to bragg about?
I agree, rushing a game isn't something to be proud of, besides darkfall was completely restart in 2004 , so it's dev time is shorter than AOC
Wait...how can you say development was restarted when one of the devs themselves stated it's been in full time development since 2000? Did they just forget to add they had to restart again in 2004?
The current content in DF Is from 2004-now, although original development did start in 2000, the 2000-2004 content isn't in the game.
Anyway Ofcourse i don't know the certain, but it's 'out there'
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Well duh, Funcom has worked on their engine since the 90'th, and have 200 people working on AoC. So I can't se why folks arguing about some freaking timetable over development.
AoC fanbase are looking worse and worse for every day that goes. More immature followers doesn't exist.
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