Well duh, Funcom has worked on their engine since the 90'th, and have 200 people working on AoC. So I can't se why folks arguing about some freaking timetable over development.
AoC fanbase are looking worse and worse for every day that goes. More immature followers doesn't exist.
Well duh, Funcom has worked on their engine since the 90'th, and have 200 people working on AoC. So I can't se why folks arguing about some freaking timetable over development.
AoC fanbase are looking worse and worse for every day that goes. More immature followers doesn't exist.
Lmfao now that was mature.
You acctually wan't us to go spam trash in the AoC section? No, didn't think so.
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Well duh, Funcom has worked on their engine since the 90'th, and have 200 people working on AoC. So I can't se why folks arguing about some freaking timetable over development.
AoC fanbase are looking worse and worse for every day that goes. More immature followers doesn't exist.
Lmfao now that was mature.
You acctually wan't us to go spam trash in the AoC section? No, didn't think so.
No offense, but after reading that thread you linked on the DF forums.....I have not seen such a bitter crowd of people since some of the Pre-CU SWG vets forums.
what do you expect from people who've been following something for 7 years and getting nothing but stale screenshots and a few generic alpha videos in that time?
You know the funny thing is we are all the same with exception to the odd deluded individual & the medicated, the only hting that divides us is the GAME and where our hope & loyaltys lay, we all want the same things technicly which is fun and a good community to be & make friends and enjoy those moments (fun).. so while we scorn each other playfully or maliciuosly really should remeber why we are here becuase its the same reason.
While I would hope AoC would become a WoW destroyer, I just dont see it happening, with the asain market buying it up.
If AoC becomes a WoW destroyer, then I will cancel my subscription and sell my Pre-Order CE package on eBay. The one thing I DONT want AoC to be is a WoW destroyer. This would mean that all the WoW kiddies would be crawling all over Tortage with hundreds of Gold Sellers as their Entourage.
I am hoping AoC will do fine, attract the mature audience and WAR will attract all the WoW fanboys since its graphically pretty similiar. My ideal scenario would be 20k of users subscribing to AoC, while a few hundred thousand subscribe to WAR. I will take a handful of mature players over hundred kids with AOLbonics any day.
No offense, but after reading that thread you linked on the DF forums.....I have not seen such a bitter crowd of people since some of the Pre-CU SWG vets forums.
what do you expect from people who've been following something for 7 years and getting nothing but stale screenshots and a few generic alpha videos in that time?
I understand that.
What is the most confusing to me though, there are those that mention how long DF has been in development (7-8 years) and those trying to justify that length of development as being a good thing. Than of course you have someone chime in about how that seems like a very long time in development and nothing really to show for it. Than someone else comes in and says no no wait, they had to restart and it's actually only been in development for a shorter period of time (4 years) and trying to use that as justification for not really having anything to show for it.
A lot of the confusion could be easily remedied by more open communication from the devs. They have made very clear their intentions of what they want to do with this game stating all these features that people will enjoy and have been looking for, for a long time. Then they turn around and say we don't want to try and bait people with certain things like pre-orders and things of that sort. Sounds very hypocritical to me and something just doesn't seem right in all of it.
While I would hope AoC would become a WoW destroyer, I just dont see it happening, with the asain market buying it up.
If AoC becomes a WoW destroyer, then I will cancel my subscription and sell my Pre-Order CE package on eBay. The one thing I DONT want AoC to be is a WoW destroyer. This would mean that all the WoW kiddies would be crawling all over Tortage with hundreds of Gold Sellers as their Entourage.
I am hoping AoC will do fine, attract the mature audience and WAR will attract all the WoW fanboys since its graphically pretty similiar. My ideal scenario would be 20k of users subscribing to AoC, while a few hundred thousand subscribe to WAR. I will take a handful of mature players over hundred kids with AOLbonics any day.
20 thousand in a game that promises blood, decapitation and topless girls, awesome graphics, interesting combat system, ect, ect...
HAH!! I bet more immature people come to AoC than WAR. Sorry.
-------------------------------------- A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"
I think you should come up with something concrete to backup your point about Darkfall being restarted in 2004. If you can't, because it isn't true, then stop confusing people. I would appreciate that.
Judging by 'this' i believe it means current year. Please cease your flaming as it proves nothing and only embarrases yourself.
Go back to AoC please
Teala still has a valid point. Every year someone on these forums that beta will start this year, than the year goes by and no beta.....
If I were anyone following this game, I would keep statements like "beta is atleast this year" mum until there is an actual beta start date stated by a DF dev.
I remember some guildies signing up for guild beta back in 2005 under the impression it was starting that year. Has guild beta started yet?
Judging by 'this' i believe it means current year. Please cease your flaming as it proves nothing and only embarrases yourself.
Go back to AoC please
Teala still has a valid point. Every year someone on these forums that beta will start this year, than the year goes by and no beta.....
If I were anyone following this game, I would keep statements like "beta is atleast this year" mum until there is an actual beta start date stated by a DF dev.
I remember some guildies signing up for guild beta back in 2005 under the impression it was starting that year. Has guild beta started yet?
Well beta will happen when it happens, the guy was just expressing his opinion and teala saying what he/she said doesn't help the situation at-all.
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Judging by 'this' i believe it means current year. Please cease your flaming as it proves nothing and only embarrases yourself.
Go back to AoC please
Teala still has a valid point. Every year someone on these forums that beta will start this year, than the year goes by and no beta.....
If I were anyone following this game, I would keep statements like "beta is atleast this year" mum until there is an actual beta start date stated by a DF dev.
I remember some guildies signing up for guild beta back in 2005 under the impression it was starting that year. Has guild beta started yet?
Well beta will happen when it happens, the guy was just expressing his opinion and teala saying what he/she said doesn't help the situation at-all.
I agree that the tone of Teala's post was uncalled for, but there is still no denying some of the validity behind it.
I've been following DF lightly since 05 and every year it seems like some poor souls get the impression that the beta will start that year, only to become extremely disappointed when it doesn't happen. For the sake of those of you that think the beta will start this year, I truly hope it does. I just wouldn't hold my breath.
First, they did not "start" over in 2004. They went through a graphical upgrade because development was taking so long their old stuff looked like ass. So, right out the gate....I have to deal with some more lies around here to cover up for the fact that this dev team is junk.
Second, there is not going to be a beta this year. I don't care what some PR pusher from DF told you. They do not have the sort of media ready for teh community that any other game about to hit beta would have. Any assertion that they are simply "hiding" that kind of media is bull as well. They have nothing to hide....any material they are working on would have been copyrighted the moment it stopped being on paper only. No game company in their right mind refuses to showcase their product "just because".
Third, the AoC guy was perfectly in the right for his comments. If you bothered to read into CONTEXT...you would see it all came as a response to constant posts about making the game more like what darkfall promises. What he asserts is that, promises are pretty empty when they don't even have half a game to show for all the promises they have made. Reading between the lines also teaches us that he is suggesting that half of the stuff DF promised is pretty "out there" and that even a FULL dev team like they have on AoC probably couldn't pull all of that off with the polish needed to be successful. He is DEAD RIGHT.
Last, but not least, you people talking about "loyatly" are real dumb. For starters, anyone can talk a good talk...and I can assure you that not even half of them are anywhere near deserving of loyalty at all. Beyond that, this is not some kind of cult...mmkay? They are a company, and they make products for consumers. The whole premise behind consumer loyalty is that they offer repeat business at the exclusion of others to a company which has proven to provide them with a quality product. DF doesn't exist, and its team has not delivered you ANY product....or even respectable information about what products they MIGHT be offering you later.
All that your "loyalty" does is spread their name in a massive PR hype which serves MOSTLY to help their business in their other projects. It does not get you a game, in fact....considering the sheer marketing potential of such "loyalty" I'd wager it could be very profitable to NEVER MAKE A GAME AT ALL. They save tons of dev costs...and get to be a worldwide hot topic term so that everything else they are making is easier to push.
Lead Gameplay and Gameworld Designer for a yet unnamed MMO Title. "When people tell me designing a game is easy, I try to get them to design a board game. Most people don't last 5 minutes, the rest rarely last more then a day. The final few realize it's neither fun nor easy."
The reason for the hostility on the AoC Dev side is in the recent interview with Darkfall Dev Tasos at WarCry labeled 3/28/08 they took a cheap shot at AoC Mature rating. And I Qoute.
"We never tried to exploit the M rating, and we never felt there was a need to tease our players with promises of ultra violence or sexist sexual innuendo. For us, it's all about the features that come from offering full freedom gameplay with accountability. We've remained true to our original vision to this day."
Also another reason shots were fired is because all of sudden Tasos was bursting at the seams with all the features that Darkfall would provide and it was endless like they had no programming barriers, I mean other companies thought about these things, just the tech is not up to par to do them. If they can seamlessly blend a world and I quote.
"The size of the world: From the ones we know about, It's at least more than twice the land area size of the largest announced or released MMO out there. This world is also seamless and zoneless."
No one has pulled that off to that degree and I just don't see our tech able to pull that off as well. And the character models how they can be scaled etc.. It just sounds like they are adding everything in a dream world and AoC sees this as false because as I've been saying technology is not yet up to snuff to this type of stuff.
Now don't get me wrong Darkfall is quite the project and I hope to see it successful as much as the next Darkfall fan but you gotta take a spoon of salt from this latest interview it does sound like an info-commercial and it does like they are trying to fluff everything, stuff that isn't possible.
[[ DEAD ]] - Funny - I deleted my account on the site using the cancel account button. Forum user is separate and still exists with no way of deleting it. Delete it admins. Do it, this ends now.
Wondered abit why Tasos were so on the offence in last Developer Journal towards (as i read it )especially the game Age of Conan and its develpers Funcom. This might be one of the reasons behind all the turbulance. A thread from the Age of Conan website. Some cheap shots from a Age of Conan developer. http://forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=19320&page=3 In this thread you can read about statements like this from Developer Athelan. [QUOTE] Athelan- developer of Age of Conan:
Pre-Order now for the low low price of only 6 payments of 99.99 and we will throw in this brand new kitchen sink for free, AND WAIT THATS NOT ALL get this complete box set of ABBA's greatest hits!... AND WE MUST BEEEE CRAAAAZZZZYY BECAUSE NOT ONLY ARE WE GOING TO GIVE YOU THAT BUT I AM GOING TO GIVE YOU THE COMBO JUICER SUPER SQUIEGEE HIGH POWER WASHING FULLY CARBIDE KITCHEN KUNG FU IRON CHEF KNIFE SET! BUY NOW!
Thats what that video makes me think of.
I mean if the game comes out with 1/10th of what is claimed there. If it only delivered on skill based, open pvp that was fun. I would check it out at least. But anytime I see claims like that I just can't take it serious. But thats a fan movie so hopefully they are not promising all that. [/QUOTE] Another one from same developer and same thread- [QUOTE] Athelan- developer of Age of Conan: Dont they have like infinite time and money now thanks to some rich sheik's son from the middle east?[/QUOTE] And the last one i found in same thread- [QUOTE] Athelan- developer of Age of Conan: Well there is a big difference between making some promises and not being able to deliver everything, and literally promising everything :P
It's like saying I promise to buy you a new car by the end of the year. At the end of the year I didn't buy you a brand new BMW I ended up buying a Honda.
But if I promised to buy you a Ferrari, and said no not just a Ferrari but a Ferrari Enzo, with custom solid gold rims, and full leather interior custom made out of lambskin. Then delivered you a used 1983 Mazda, or a toy car looking like a Ferrari ;p. [/QUOTE] This kind of behaviour is really tasteless and is hitting below the belt. No wonder Tasos gave some pounches to Funcom after reading this. And Tasos own responce to this turbulance can be read in thread link below on the Darkfall board and its way more mature then the represant from Funcom outburst on Darkfall developers and their game. http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=32653 [QUOTE]Tasos Flambouras- Darkfall Developer : You'll never catch Darkfall developers taking cheap shots against other MMOs. Aside from adhering to professional courtesy standards, we're not that concerned about them to bother. You shouldn't be either.
I'll lock this thread now if that's alright.[/QUOTE]
Perhaps Darkfall even in it's current form, is a threat to the status quo of mmorpgs so it is common for any "offended"
mmo company or any individual developer to attack it by any means he has.
Just imagine what will happen if Darkfall goes beta. A small dev team versus multi million mmos that all of their features tied together are not even half the features that Darkfall has, but they are not even half the features of Ultima Online (which unfortunately for them is not a vaporware).
I want Darkfall to succeed and i would love to see the faces of the cloners that take 4-5 years in development (Betas and Gammas not included) and then come here to show off their unfinished games that feature visual chat rooms, instances and loading screens in the year 2008 of quad core CPUs and several gigabytes of RAM.
And then, pot plant designers, boob algorithm specialists and many other professions made up to consume and justify the standard 20 million dollar mmo budget, will give their place to real developers worthy of their salaries-time and that's just the problem they have against any kind of Darkfall.
Originally posted by HashBrick No one has pulled that off to that degree and I just don't see our tech able to pull that off as well. And the character models how they can be scaled etc.. It just sounds like they are adding everything in a dream world and AoC sees this as false because as I've been saying technology is not yet up to snuff to this type of stuff.
Whoa there a minute, sonny. First, MUDs have had roomless constructs for better on five years (search for Kavir to learn more). Second, there's no technological barriers rather there are logical ones due to the fact that no one given feature of a program is fundamentally reshaping the modern computer (such as how computations are made or how I/O is done). It was the same in the 1960s and it's the same now, it's only the degree of return on computation that has changed.
So, yes, Darkfall can deliver what it has, the question is: can the developers make Darkfall in that do they even have the right number of developers, a decent software architect, and a good deal of capital? Those are the factors that matter in the feature set for Darkfall, not a new shiny GFX card or some mythical new way to compute (which there is none, btw, not even quantum computers add anything new to computation other than global paralellism, which many quantum computing theorists argue is a myth).
Just imagine what will happen if Darkfall goes beta. A small dev team versus multi million mmos that all of their features tied together are not even half the features that Darkfall has, but they are not even half the features of Ultima Online (which unfortunately for them is not a vaporware). I want Darkfall to succeed and i would love to see the faces of the cloners that take 4-5 years in development (Betas and Gammas not included) and then come here to show off their unfinished games that feature visual chat rooms, instances and loading screens in the year 2008 of quad core CPUs and several gigabytes of RAM.
And then, pot plant designers, boob algorithm specialists and many other professions made up to consume and justify the standard 20 million dollar mmo budget, will give their place to real developers worthy of their salaries-time and that's just the problem they have against any kind of Darkfall.
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It showcases exactly what some of us have been mentioning. This - for the lack of a better word - Fanboy-environment that some created here on the forums and the Darkfall community forums. Its the adorable "we're a small, but elite group of devs and their fanboys against the mean and mighty corporate sell-outs, we'll show 'em!!" attitude. I really wonder what the Darkfall devs have given you so far to make sure they have your undying love and loyality. Can anyone answer me this please?
No offense, but after reading that thread you linked on the DF forums.....I have not seen such a bitter crowd of people since some of the Pre-CU SWG vets forums.
what do you expect from people who've been following something for 7 years and getting nothing but stale screenshots and a few generic alpha videos in that time?
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No it didn't. TF2 was not in straight develpment for that long. They shelved the project than picked it up later and finished it.
I love it how the darkfall fanboys now constantly use the "TF2 argument" to try and give validity to Darkflop.
And the AoC dev who said this stuff should be given an award for telling it like it is.
OR it's just someone making fun of a product he knows is completely inferior to his..
It's like pulling up to a stop light in a lamborghini and making fun of a Neon next to you.
Lmfao now that was mature.
Lmfao now that was mature.
You acctually wan't us to go spam trash in the AoC section? No, didn't think so.
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The Sceptics, yes they're special but we've need them to.. I guess.
And if they're put more effort MMORPG.com can create a 'Team Sceptic'
and send them to the Special Olympus.
Lmfao now that was mature.
You acctually wan't us to go spam trash in the AoC section? No, didn't think so.
Lmao ...
I really hope the really immuture players continue playing WoW and leave AoC alone... I know I know *pops own balloon*
Eh, it just shows how much time he has on his hands. Honestly its just talk, I mean poking fun in the industry.
While I would hope AoC would become a WoW destroyer, I just dont see it happening, with the asain market buying it up.
I mean really there is a small economy growing around it, that and EvE so I dunno. Wishful thinking on my part.
what do you expect from people who've been following something for 7 years and getting nothing but stale screenshots and a few generic alpha videos in that time?
You know the funny thing is we are all the same with exception to the odd deluded individual & the medicated, the only hting that divides us is the GAME and where our hope & loyaltys lay, we all want the same things technicly which is fun and a good community to be & make friends and enjoy those moments (fun).. so while we scorn each other playfully or maliciuosly really should remeber why we are here becuase its the same reason.
If AoC becomes a WoW destroyer, then I will cancel my subscription and sell my Pre-Order CE package on eBay. The one thing I DONT want AoC to be is a WoW destroyer. This would mean that all the WoW kiddies would be crawling all over Tortage with hundreds of Gold Sellers as their Entourage.
I am hoping AoC will do fine, attract the mature audience and WAR will attract all the WoW fanboys since its graphically pretty similiar. My ideal scenario would be 20k of users subscribing to AoC, while a few hundred thousand subscribe to WAR. I will take a handful of mature players over hundred kids with AOLbonics any day.
what do you expect from people who've been following something for 7 years and getting nothing but stale screenshots and a few generic alpha videos in that time?
I understand that.What is the most confusing to me though, there are those that mention how long DF has been in development (7-8 years) and those trying to justify that length of development as being a good thing. Than of course you have someone chime in about how that seems like a very long time in development and nothing really to show for it. Than someone else comes in and says no no wait, they had to restart and it's actually only been in development for a shorter period of time (4 years) and trying to use that as justification for not really having anything to show for it.
A lot of the confusion could be easily remedied by more open communication from the devs. They have made very clear their intentions of what they want to do with this game stating all these features that people will enjoy and have been looking for, for a long time. Then they turn around and say we don't want to try and bait people with certain things like pre-orders and things of that sort. Sounds very hypocritical to me and something just doesn't seem right in all of it.
If AoC becomes a WoW destroyer, then I will cancel my subscription and sell my Pre-Order CE package on eBay. The one thing I DONT want AoC to be is a WoW destroyer. This would mean that all the WoW kiddies would be crawling all over Tortage with hundreds of Gold Sellers as their Entourage.
I am hoping AoC will do fine, attract the mature audience and WAR will attract all the WoW fanboys since its graphically pretty similiar. My ideal scenario would be 20k of users subscribing to AoC, while a few hundred thousand subscribe to WAR. I will take a handful of mature players over hundred kids with AOLbonics any day.
20 thousand in a game that promises blood, decapitation and topless girls, awesome graphics, interesting combat system, ect, ect...
HAH!! I bet more immature people come to AoC than WAR. Sorry.
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A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"
Order of the White Border.
What year would that be? 3020?
What year would that be? 3020?
Judging by 'this' i believe it means current year. Please cease your flaming as it proves nothing and only embarrases yourself.
Go back to AoC please
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What year would that be? 3020?
Teala still has a valid point. Every year someone on these forums that beta will start this year, than the year goes by and no beta.....Judging by 'this' i believe it means current year. Please cease your flaming as it proves nothing and only embarrases yourself.
Go back to AoC please
If I were anyone following this game, I would keep statements like "beta is atleast this year" mum until there is an actual beta start date stated by a DF dev.
I remember some guildies signing up for guild beta back in 2005 under the impression it was starting that year. Has guild beta started yet?
What year would that be? 3020?
Teala still has a valid point. Every year someone on these forums that beta will start this year, than the year goes by and no beta.....Judging by 'this' i believe it means current year. Please cease your flaming as it proves nothing and only embarrases yourself.
Go back to AoC please
If I were anyone following this game, I would keep statements like "beta is atleast this year" mum until there is an actual beta start date stated by a DF dev.
I remember some guildies signing up for guild beta back in 2005 under the impression it was starting that year. Has guild beta started yet?
Well beta will happen when it happens, the guy was just expressing his opinion and teala saying what he/she said doesn't help the situation at-all.
Account has been stolen, why would someone want to steal my account?
What year would that be? 3020?
Teala still has a valid point. Every year someone on these forums that beta will start this year, than the year goes by and no beta.....Judging by 'this' i believe it means current year. Please cease your flaming as it proves nothing and only embarrases yourself.
Go back to AoC please
If I were anyone following this game, I would keep statements like "beta is atleast this year" mum until there is an actual beta start date stated by a DF dev.
I remember some guildies signing up for guild beta back in 2005 under the impression it was starting that year. Has guild beta started yet?
I agree that the tone of Teala's post was uncalled for, but there is still no denying some of the validity behind it.Well beta will happen when it happens, the guy was just expressing his opinion and teala saying what he/she said doesn't help the situation at-all.
I've been following DF lightly since 05 and every year it seems like some poor souls get the impression that the beta will start that year, only to become extremely disappointed when it doesn't happen. For the sake of those of you that think the beta will start this year, I truly hope it does. I just wouldn't hold my breath.
First, they did not "start" over in 2004. They went through a graphical upgrade because development was taking so long their old stuff looked like ass. So, right out the gate....I have to deal with some more lies around here to cover up for the fact that this dev team is junk.
Second, there is not going to be a beta this year. I don't care what some PR pusher from DF told you. They do not have the sort of media ready for teh community that any other game about to hit beta would have. Any assertion that they are simply "hiding" that kind of media is bull as well. They have nothing to hide....any material they are working on would have been copyrighted the moment it stopped being on paper only. No game company in their right mind refuses to showcase their product "just because".
Third, the AoC guy was perfectly in the right for his comments. If you bothered to read into CONTEXT...you would see it all came as a response to constant posts about making the game more like what darkfall promises. What he asserts is that, promises are pretty empty when they don't even have half a game to show for all the promises they have made. Reading between the lines also teaches us that he is suggesting that half of the stuff DF promised is pretty "out there" and that even a FULL dev team like they have on AoC probably couldn't pull all of that off with the polish needed to be successful. He is DEAD RIGHT.
Last, but not least, you people talking about "loyatly" are real dumb. For starters, anyone can talk a good talk...and I can assure you that not even half of them are anywhere near deserving of loyalty at all. Beyond that, this is not some kind of cult...mmkay? They are a company, and they make products for consumers. The whole premise behind consumer loyalty is that they offer repeat business at the exclusion of others to a company which has proven to provide them with a quality product. DF doesn't exist, and its team has not delivered you ANY product....or even respectable information about what products they MIGHT be offering you later.
All that your "loyalty" does is spread their name in a massive PR hype which serves MOSTLY to help their business in their other projects. It does not get you a game, in fact....considering the sheer marketing potential of such "loyalty" I'd wager it could be very profitable to NEVER MAKE A GAME AT ALL. They save tons of dev costs...and get to be a worldwide hot topic term so that everything else they are making is easier to push.
Excellent reply Gishgeron! *tips hat*
Nice post Gishgeron, I enjoyed reading it.
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Lead Gameplay and Gameworld Designer for a yet unnamed MMO Title.
"When people tell me designing a game is easy, I try to get them to design a board game. Most people don't last 5 minutes, the rest rarely last more then a day. The final few realize it's neither fun nor easy."
The reason for the hostility on the AoC Dev side is in the recent interview with Darkfall Dev Tasos at WarCry labeled 3/28/08 they took a cheap shot at AoC Mature rating. And I Qoute.
"We never tried to exploit the M rating, and we never felt there was a need to tease our players with promises of ultra violence or sexist sexual innuendo. For us, it's all about the features that come from offering full freedom gameplay with accountability. We've remained true to our original vision to this day."
Also another reason shots were fired is because all of sudden Tasos was bursting at the seams with all the features that Darkfall would provide and it was endless like they had no programming barriers, I mean other companies thought about these things, just the tech is not up to par to do them. If they can seamlessly blend a world and I quote.
"The size of the world: From the ones we know about, It's at least more than twice the land area size of the largest announced or released MMO out there. This world is also seamless and zoneless."
No one has pulled that off to that degree and I just don't see our tech able to pull that off as well. And the character models how they can be scaled etc.. It just sounds like they are adding everything in a dream world and AoC sees this as false because as I've been saying technology is not yet up to snuff to this type of stuff.
Now don't get me wrong Darkfall is quite the project and I hope to see it successful as much as the next Darkfall fan but you gotta take a spoon of salt from this latest interview it does sound like an info-commercial and it does like they are trying to fluff everything, stuff that isn't possible.
Buy hey only time can tell, if you haven't read the dev journal yet, please do it here 3/28/08 Tasos Dev Journal Darkfall Development
Great reply, Gishgeron. I was going to respond until I read your post. You said everything I wanted to say, only with more elegance.
And then, pot plant designers, boob algorithm specialists and many other professions made up to consume and justify the standard 20 million dollar mmo budget, will give their place to real developers worthy of their salaries-time and that's just the problem they have against any kind of Darkfall.
So, yes, Darkfall can deliver what it has, the question is: can the developers make Darkfall in that do they even have the right number of developers, a decent software architect, and a good deal of capital? Those are the factors that matter in the feature set for Darkfall, not a new shiny GFX card or some mythical new way to compute (which there is none, btw, not even quantum computers add anything new to computation other than global paralellism, which many quantum computing theorists argue is a myth).
-- Brede
I LOVE YOUR REPLY!!!
It showcases exactly what some of us have been mentioning. This - for the lack of a better word - Fanboy-environment that some created here on the forums and the Darkfall community forums. Its the adorable "we're a small, but elite group of devs and their fanboys against the mean and mighty corporate sell-outs, we'll show 'em!!" attitude. I really wonder what the Darkfall devs have given you so far to make sure they have your undying love and loyality. Can anyone answer me this please?
what do you expect from people who've been following something for 7 years and getting nothing but stale screenshots and a few generic alpha videos in that time?
when you going to give up you have lost sorry