Seriously...I've been on these forums before the announcement. I made this in early july. I wanted to vote in the hype-level so I began posting here. My shoulder is broken and I have nothing better to do so I just hang around here and post.
EDIT: Didn't know that it told you the date you began >.<
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AoC kicked people in the balls without asking them for permission. But since WAR is being honest about asking you if it can kick you in the balls this is okay?
As consumers we have sinked to a new low if we allow them to launch an incomplete game. They should IMVHO delay to get it right from the day 1.
AoC kicked people in the balls without asking them for permission. But since WAR is being honest about asking you if it can kick you in the balls this is okay? As consumers we have sinked to a new low if we allow them to launch an incomplete game. They should IMVHO delay to get it right from the day 1.
you are either uninformed or misinformed.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Guys! I'm hopelessly lost in a mountain of mole hills! Them damn moles!
AoC kicked people in the balls without asking them for permission. But since WAR is being honest about asking you if it can kick you in the balls this is okay? As consumers we have sinked to a new low if we allow them to launch an incomplete game. They should IMVHO delay to get it right from the day 1.
you are either uninformed or misinformed.
This is my opinion.
And a defensive response from the fanboys is not suprising by me.
AoC kicked people in the balls without asking them for permission. But since WAR is being honest about asking you if it can kick you in the balls this is okay? As consumers we have sinked to a new low if we allow them to launch an incomplete game. They should IMVHO delay to get it right from the day 1.
you are either uninformed or misinformed.
This is my opinion.
And a defensive response from the fanboys is not suprising by me.
You need to do a little bit more research before wasting that little knowledge.
Hi I'm Ravkeen!
Emilia_Emi Lvl 56 Witch Now Playing : Black Desert Online "America is not at war, the US Military is at war, America is at the mall."
AoC kicked people in the balls without asking them for permission. But since WAR is being honest about asking you if it can kick you in the balls this is okay? As consumers we have sinked to a new low if we allow them to launch an incomplete game. They should IMVHO delay to get it right from the day 1.
you are either uninformed or misinformed.
This is my opinion.
And a defensive response from the fanboys is not suprising by me.
After explaining it over and over again, I just lose the will to put up a good fight. Are MMO's ever complete? We're going to get all the content. Delaying is just -not- an option. If they delayed it another 6 months to put in those things there would be 10x more complaints. In the end what we argue about on the forums doesn't even matter. The majority of the player won't come from the forums. The majority won't even be aware of the exsistance of forums. The new guys to the game (or even the whole MMO experience) won't know that there was 6 cities planned to come out before launch. They won't know that 4 classes were delayed until after launch. And most importantly they won't CARE. They're having too much fun seiging massive keeps and taking on PQs. They'll be so lost having fun they just won't care. Once this game comes out I will substancially reduce my time on the forums. I don't want to get caught up in all the QQ. I want to have a good time. I just find it hilarious that we are fighting over having a good time.
Anyway that's how I see things. I'm not a fanboy...though I am really excited to play this game. Just do a little research on all the different features. We still have city seiges and we still have 20 unique classes. By losing a little we gain a lot.
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But a solid foundation is necessary to be able to build on it.
Where the split in opinion has occured with the MMORPG community on this website is this....Was the content cut out a necessary part of that foundation?
If you expected this to kill WoW then you're simply setting yourself up for dissapointment, because MMOs are harder to kill than cockroaches. Plenty of older games like EQ still have subscriber bases and therefore are not 'dead'. So just don't say things like that in the future, other people with less patience than I will just flat out call you a moron.
Second, many of the people who say this game is going to fail haven't even played it. They see some content getting cut, skip entirely over the reasonable explaination of why and trot over to the WoW forums to crow happily about how ''THIS GAME IS GON FAIL! WOW RULEZ YOU DREWLZ''.
Third, I'd rather they didn't release unbalanced and unfinished classes. Anyone here play WoW at launch as a Hunter or a Warlock or a Paladin? Blizzard to this day ( 3 years later) is STILL trying too fix these classes. I'm glad Mythic won't be doing that.
The game is still looking fun, there are still 20 classes and 2 amazing cities. Mythic will patch the other stuff in at a later date.
If you expected this to kill WoW then you're simply setting yourself up for dissapointment, because MMOs are harder to kill than cockroaches. Plenty of older games like EQ still have subscriber bases and therefore are not 'dead'. So just don't say things like that in the future, other people with less patience than I will just flat out call you a moron.
Second, many of the people who say this game is going to fail haven't even played it. They see some content getting cut, skip entirely over the reasonable explaination of why and trot over to the WoW forums to crow happily about how ''THIS GAME IS GON FAIL! WOW RULEZ YOU DREWLZ''.
Third, I'd rather they didn't release unbalanced and unfinished classes. Anyone here play WoW at launch as a Hunter or a Warlock or a Paladin? Blizzard to this day ( 3 years later) is STILL trying too fix these classes. I'm glad Mythic won't be doing that.
The game is still looking fun, there are still 20 classes and 2 amazing cities. Mythic will patch the other stuff in at a later date.
QTF
Couldn't agree more
---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Guys! I'm hopelessly lost in a mountain of mole hills! Them damn moles!
I don't mind WAR launching with cut content but it has to be good. I'm pretty sure the average player won't be blowing through the game that fast. By the time they want something new the other cities should be arriving.
But graphics still look like crap. I saw some later probably doctored screens that looked great. Good definition and detail on models. But vids tell another story. I don't care how great the gameplay is if instead of feeling immersed I'm imagining how much better they could have made it look it ruins the whole experience.
Are you KIDDING ME? Its crap like this that lets BS like AoC do so well on sales by releasing a game in a shitty state. Who cares if its bugged to hell, alot of box advertisement is missing, the company blows smoke up my ass....IT LOOKS PURDY.
I'm sorry greymann but with that statement alone even other WAR haters will not listne to anything you say. No true gamer wants graphics over gameplay.
Wow are people still using this failed logic? So crappy graphics means great gameplay huh? Sorry I choose BOTH and demand BOTH before my card comes out the wallet. AoC only looked good at the intro phase. The graphics were crap in that game and by graphics I mean art not the engine. The attempt at realistic proportioned models is always a mistake because few of these artists / animators are great at anatomy and producing believable animation. That's only one example. Most games just fail to immerse the player into the world due to graphics. The game that wins is the game that has does it all (graphics/gameplay) top notch. And I'm not trying to win a popularity contest here so I really don't care who listens. Big meh to you.
[snip] Third, I'd rather they didn't release unbalanced and unfinished classes. Anyone here play WoW at launch as a Hunter or a Warlock or a Paladin? Blizzard to this day ( 3 years later) is STILL trying too fix these classes. I'm glad Mythic won't be doing that. [snip]
To be fair, Blizzard, Mythic, and all other developers, will be tweaking each class every major patch until their respective games are shut down. To think that classes can survive the evolution of a game inside a bubble is folly.
Until you cancel your subscription, you are only helping to continue the cycle of mediocrity.
I don't mind WAR launching with cut content but it has to be good. I'm pretty sure the average player won't be blowing through the game that fast. By the time they want something new the other cities should be arriving.
But graphics still look like crap. I saw some later probably doctored screens that looked great. Good definition and detail on models. But vids tell another story. I don't care how great the gameplay is if instead of feeling immersed I'm imagining how much better they could have made it look it ruins the whole experience.
You know what? F*CK graphics! I'm sick and tired of the graphics argument. Everyones take on graphics are subject to their own personal taste. I want a game with good and fun gameplay, UO, AC, EQ even WOW had it now we get CRAP that looks pretty but its STILL CRAP!! You want immersion? great graphics? step the hell outside and have yourself a ball.
Graphics..... If one of my friends said that crap I'd smack em in the forehead.
Would you even have friends who are numbnuts like that? I wouldnt.
Ok ok so you guys want lousy graphics. I get it. I'm afraid you're experiencing whiplash. It happens due to overreacting to something you don't like. I recommend some yoga for centering yourself and getting some balance back.
I don't mind WAR launching with cut content but it has to be good. I'm pretty sure the average player won't be blowing through the game that fast. By the time they want something new the other cities should be arriving.
But graphics still look like crap. I saw some later probably doctored screens that looked great. Good definition and detail on models. But vids tell another story. I don't care how great the gameplay is if instead of feeling immersed I'm imagining how much better they could have made it look it ruins the whole experience.
Are you KIDDING ME? Its crap like this that lets BS like AoC do so well on sales by releasing a game in a shitty state. Who cares if its bugged to hell, alot of box advertisement is missing, the company blows smoke up my ass....IT LOOKS PURDY.
I'm sorry greymann but with that statement alone even other WAR haters will not listne to anything you say. No true gamer wants graphics over gameplay.
Wow are people still using this failed logic? So crappy graphics means great gameplay huh? Sorry I choose BOTH and demand BOTH before my card comes out the wallet. AoC only looked good at the intro phase. The graphics were crap in that game and by graphics I mean art not the engine. The attempt at realistic proportioned models is always a mistake because few of these artists / animators are great at anatomy and producing believable animation. That's only one example. Most games just fail to immerse the player into the world due to graphics. The game that wins is the game that has does it all (graphics/gameplay) top notch. And I'm not trying to win a popularity contest here so I really don't care who listens. Big meh to you.
No, but great graphics doesn't mean great gameplay. Actually, usually, great graphics means crappy gameplay, from what I've seen with Vanguard and AoC. Solely because developers focus on the graphical part of the game over the gameplay.
I for one can live with WARs graphics, nothing awful about them, nothing stunning either though.
Right but I can think of some games that did it all. Why argue just for one or the other. I'm just saying Mythic should step it up. The fact is all most of us have seen of the game, other than hype, is media. I never said great graphics means great gameplay. If think a developer should focus mainly on gameplay but why should they sacrifice other parts of the game to give us gameplay? I've never understood this arguement... graphicswhore phobia or something.
I don't mind WAR launching with cut content but it has to be good. I'm pretty sure the average player won't be blowing through the game that fast. By the time they want something new the other cities should be arriving.
But graphics still look like crap. I saw some later probably doctored screens that looked great. Good definition and detail on models. But vids tell another story. I don't care how great the gameplay is if instead of feeling immersed I'm imagining how much better they could have made it look it ruins the whole experience.
Are you KIDDING ME? Its crap like this that lets BS like AoC do so well on sales by releasing a game in a shitty state. Who cares if its bugged to hell, alot of box advertisement is missing, the company blows smoke up my ass....IT LOOKS PURDY.
I'm sorry greymann but with that statement alone even other WAR haters will not listne to anything you say. No true gamer wants graphics over gameplay.
Wow are people still using this failed logic? So crappy graphics means great gameplay huh? Sorry I choose BOTH and demand BOTH before my card comes out the wallet. AoC only looked good at the intro phase. The graphics were crap in that game and by graphics I mean art not the engine. The attempt at realistic proportioned models is always a mistake because few of these artists / animators are great at anatomy and producing believable animation. That's only one example. Most games just fail to immerse the player into the world due to graphics. The game that wins is the game that has does it all (graphics/gameplay) top notch. And I'm not trying to win a popularity contest here so I really don't care who listens. Big meh to you.
No, but great graphics doesn't mean great gameplay. Actually, usually, great graphics means crappy gameplay, from what I've seen with Vanguard and AoC. Solely because developers focus on the graphical part of the game over the gameplay.
I for one can live with WARs graphics, nothing awful about them, nothing stunning either though.
Right but I can think of some games that did it all. Why argue just for one or the other. I'm just saying Mythic should step it up. Point is for most people all we've seen of the game, other than hype which means nothing, is media. So... what else do I have to work with but graphics. Hello.
I'd like to know of some MMOs that did it all. Only one I can think of might be LOTRO but I personally hated its gameplay.
I for one like the WAR art style, because that's the way the WAR franchise has looked. I don't see nothing wrong with it, but I'd like to see some more detail, that's about it. And if them recent videos are real, then I'm really impressed.
But like I said, graphics and gameplay are a matter of opinion, to each his own
Link a vid that you're impressed by. The latest one I saw look flat. No lighting effects, flat textures. Models made everthing look skinny like at the end of those 70's movies where everything gets stretched. lol. Those latest screens on the other hand look like they're from another game--real solid looking characters, definition and depth of color. I'd like to see a vid that matches.
I don't mind WAR launching with cut content but it has to be good. I'm pretty sure the average player won't be blowing through the game that fast. By the time they want something new the other cities should be arriving.
But graphics still look like crap. I saw some later probably doctored screens that looked great. Good definition and detail on models. But vids tell another story. I don't care how great the gameplay is if instead of feeling immersed I'm imagining how much better they could have made it look it ruins the whole experience.
Are you KIDDING ME? Its crap like this that lets BS like AoC do so well on sales by releasing a game in a shitty state. Who cares if its bugged to hell, alot of box advertisement is missing, the company blows smoke up my ass....IT LOOKS PURDY.
I'm sorry greymann but with that statement alone even other WAR haters will not listne to anything you say. No true gamer wants graphics over gameplay.
Wow are people still using this failed logic? So crappy graphics means great gameplay huh? Sorry I choose BOTH and demand BOTH before my card comes out the wallet. AoC only looked good at the intro phase. The graphics were crap in that game and by graphics I mean art not the engine. The attempt at realistic proportioned models is always a mistake because few of these artists / animators are great at anatomy and producing believable animation. That's only one example. Most games just fail to immerse the player into the world due to graphics. The game that wins is the game that has does it all (graphics/gameplay) top notch. And I'm not trying to win a popularity contest here so I really don't care who listens. Big meh to you.
No, but great graphics doesn't mean great gameplay. Actually, usually, great graphics means crappy gameplay, from what I've seen with Vanguard and AoC. Solely because developers focus on the graphical part of the game over the gameplay.
I for one can live with WARs graphics, nothing awful about them, nothing stunning either though.
Right but I can think of some games that did it all. Why argue just for one or the other. I'm just saying Mythic should step it up. Point is for most people all we've seen of the game, other than hype which means nothing, is media. So... what else do I have to work with but graphics. Hello.
I'd like to know of some MMOs that did it all. Only one I can think of might be LOTRO but I personally hated its gameplay.
I for one like the WAR art style, because that's the way the WAR franchise has looked. I don't see nothing wrong with it, but I'd like to see some more detail, that's about it. And if them recent videos are real, then I'm really impressed.
But like I said, graphics and gameplay are a matter of opinion, to each his own
Link a vid that you're impressed by. The latest one I saw look flat. No lighting effects, flat textures. Models made everthing look skinny like at the end of those 70's movies where everything gets stretched. lol. Those latest screens on the other hand look like they're from another game--real solid looking characters, definition and depth of color. I'd like to see a vid that matches.
i would like to but, you have to find some of the ones im looking at. l2google
I don't mind WAR launching with cut content but it has to be good. I'm pretty sure the average player won't be blowing through the game that fast. By the time they want something new the other cities should be arriving.
But graphics still look like crap. I saw some later probably doctored screens that looked great. Good definition and detail on models. But vids tell another story. I don't care how great the gameplay is if instead of feeling immersed I'm imagining how much better they could have made it look it ruins the whole experience.
Are you KIDDING ME? Its crap like this that lets BS like AoC do so well on sales by releasing a game in a shitty state. Who cares if its bugged to hell, alot of box advertisement is missing, the company blows smoke up my ass....IT LOOKS PURDY.
I'm sorry greymann but with that statement alone even other WAR haters will not listne to anything you say. No true gamer wants graphics over gameplay.
Wow are people still using this failed logic? So crappy graphics means great gameplay huh? Sorry I choose BOTH and demand BOTH before my card comes out the wallet. AoC only looked good at the intro phase. The graphics were crap in that game and by graphics I mean art not the engine. The attempt at realistic proportioned models is always a mistake because few of these artists / animators are great at anatomy and producing believable animation. That's only one example. Most games just fail to immerse the player into the world due to graphics. The game that wins is the game that has does it all (graphics/gameplay) top notch. And I'm not trying to win a popularity contest here so I really don't care who listens. Big meh to you.
No, but great graphics doesn't mean great gameplay. Actually, usually, great graphics means crappy gameplay, from what I've seen with Vanguard and AoC. Solely because developers focus on the graphical part of the game over the gameplay.
I for one can live with WARs graphics, nothing awful about them, nothing stunning either though.
Right but I can think of some games that did it all. Why argue just for one or the other. I'm just saying Mythic should step it up. Point is for most people all we've seen of the game, other than hype which means nothing, is media. So... what else do I have to work with but graphics. Hello.
I'd like to know of some MMOs that did it all. Only one I can think of might be LOTRO but I personally hated its gameplay.
I for one like the WAR art style, because that's the way the WAR franchise has looked. I don't see nothing wrong with it, but I'd like to see some more detail, that's about it. And if them recent videos are real, then I'm really impressed.
But like I said, graphics and gameplay are a matter of opinion, to each his own
Link a vid that you're impressed by. The latest one I saw look flat. No lighting effects, flat textures. Models made everthing look skinny like at the end of those 70's movies where everything gets stretched. lol. Those latest screens on the other hand look like they're from another game--real solid looking characters, definition and depth of color. I'd like to see a vid that matches.
i would like to but, you have to find some of the ones im looking at. l2google
You mentioned recent videos. I can't know which ones you're looking at by using google. Guess you forgot where you saw them. I mean we can either have meaningful discussion or throw insults at every opportunity. Not the best way to defend your game.
I think your way to concerned about this.these decisions wer made for the good of the game.Maybe we will get a slayer melee dps charecter in the future.Or maybe instead of the gay looking kobs will get knight panther.How about instead of two or three sieges happening at once you have one for the realm to focus on.These cuts are good for the game.
If you expected this to kill WoW then you're simply setting yourself up for dissapointment, because MMOs are harder to kill than cockroaches. Plenty of older games like EQ still have subscriber bases and therefore are not 'dead'. So just don't say things like that in the future, other people with less patience than I will just flat out call you a moron.
Second, many of the people who say this game is going to fail haven't even played it. They see some content getting cut, skip entirely over the reasonable explaination of why and trot over to the WoW forums to crow happily about how ''THIS GAME IS GON FAIL! WOW RULEZ YOU DREWLZ''.
Third, I'd rather they didn't release unbalanced and unfinished classes. Anyone here play WoW at launch as a Hunter or a Warlock or a Paladin? Blizzard to this day ( 3 years later) is STILL trying too fix these classes. I'm glad Mythic won't be doing that.
The game is still looking fun, there are still 20 classes and 2 amazing cities. Mythic will patch the other stuff in at a later date.
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People pass judgement so quickly without even playing the game. All the same people will end up playing as soon as the game is released.
I only have one account...
Seriously...I've been on these forums before the announcement. I made this in early july. I wanted to vote in the hype-level so I began posting here. My shoulder is broken and I have nothing better to do so I just hang around here and post.
EDIT: Didn't know that it told you the date you began >.<
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Guys! I'm hopelessly lost in a mountain of mole hills! Them damn moles!
AoC kicked people in the balls without asking them for permission. But since WAR is being honest about asking you if it can kick you in the balls this is okay?
As consumers we have sinked to a new low if we allow them to launch an incomplete game. They should IMVHO delay to get it right from the day 1.
you are either uninformed or misinformed.
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Guys! I'm hopelessly lost in a mountain of mole hills! Them damn moles!
you are either uninformed or misinformed.
This is my opinion.
And a defensive response from the fanboys is not suprising by me.
you are either uninformed or misinformed.
This is my opinion.
And a defensive response from the fanboys is not suprising by me.
You need to do a little bit more research before wasting that little knowledge.
Hi I'm Ravkeen!
Emilia_Emi Lvl 56 Witch
Now Playing : Black Desert Online
"America is not at war, the US Military is at war, America is at the mall."
you are either uninformed or misinformed.
This is my opinion.
And a defensive response from the fanboys is not suprising by me.
After explaining it over and over again, I just lose the will to put up a good fight. Are MMO's ever complete? We're going to get all the content. Delaying is just -not- an option. If they delayed it another 6 months to put in those things there would be 10x more complaints. In the end what we argue about on the forums doesn't even matter. The majority of the player won't come from the forums. The majority won't even be aware of the exsistance of forums. The new guys to the game (or even the whole MMO experience) won't know that there was 6 cities planned to come out before launch. They won't know that 4 classes were delayed until after launch. And most importantly they won't CARE. They're having too much fun seiging massive keeps and taking on PQs. They'll be so lost having fun they just won't care. Once this game comes out I will substancially reduce my time on the forums. I don't want to get caught up in all the QQ. I want to have a good time. I just find it hilarious that we are fighting over having a good time.
Anyway that's how I see things. I'm not a fanboy...though I am really excited to play this game. Just do a little research on all the different features. We still have city seiges and we still have 20 unique classes. By losing a little we gain a lot.
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Guys! I'm hopelessly lost in a mountain of mole hills! Them damn moles!
All MMORPG's improve as they age (post launch).
But a solid foundation is necessary to be able to build on it.
Where the split in opinion has occured with the MMORPG community on this website is this....Was the content cut out a necessary part of that foundation?
Some argue yes and some would argue no.
No one knows until more information is revealed.
Oh good grief.
If you expected this to kill WoW then you're simply setting yourself up for dissapointment, because MMOs are harder to kill than cockroaches. Plenty of older games like EQ still have subscriber bases and therefore are not 'dead'. So just don't say things like that in the future, other people with less patience than I will just flat out call you a moron.
Second, many of the people who say this game is going to fail haven't even played it. They see some content getting cut, skip entirely over the reasonable explaination of why and trot over to the WoW forums to crow happily about how ''THIS GAME IS GON FAIL! WOW RULEZ YOU DREWLZ''.
Third, I'd rather they didn't release unbalanced and unfinished classes. Anyone here play WoW at launch as a Hunter or a Warlock or a Paladin? Blizzard to this day ( 3 years later) is STILL trying too fix these classes. I'm glad Mythic won't be doing that.
The game is still looking fun, there are still 20 classes and 2 amazing cities. Mythic will patch the other stuff in at a later date.
QTF
Couldn't agree more
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Guys! I'm hopelessly lost in a mountain of mole hills! Them damn moles!
But graphics still look like crap. I saw some later probably doctored screens that looked great. Good definition and detail on models. But vids tell another story. I don't care how great the gameplay is if instead of feeling immersed I'm imagining how much better they could have made it look it ruins the whole experience.
Are you KIDDING ME? Its crap like this that lets BS like AoC do so well on sales by releasing a game in a shitty state. Who cares if its bugged to hell, alot of box advertisement is missing, the company blows smoke up my ass....IT LOOKS PURDY.
I'm sorry greymann but with that statement alone even other WAR haters will not listne to anything you say. No true gamer wants graphics over gameplay.
Wow are people still using this failed logic? So crappy graphics means great gameplay huh? Sorry I choose BOTH and demand BOTH before my card comes out the wallet. AoC only looked good at the intro phase. The graphics were crap in that game and by graphics I mean art not the engine. The attempt at realistic proportioned models is always a mistake because few of these artists / animators are great at anatomy and producing believable animation. That's only one example. Most games just fail to immerse the player into the world due to graphics. The game that wins is the game that has does it all (graphics/gameplay) top notch. And I'm not trying to win a popularity contest here so I really don't care who listens. Big meh to you.
To be fair, Blizzard, Mythic, and all other developers, will be tweaking each class every major patch until their respective games are shut down. To think that classes can survive the evolution of a game inside a bubble is folly.
Until you cancel your subscription, you are only helping to continue the cycle of mediocrity.
But graphics still look like crap. I saw some later probably doctored screens that looked great. Good definition and detail on models. But vids tell another story. I don't care how great the gameplay is if instead of feeling immersed I'm imagining how much better they could have made it look it ruins the whole experience.
You know what? F*CK graphics! I'm sick and tired of the graphics argument. Everyones take on graphics are subject to their own personal taste. I want a game with good and fun gameplay, UO, AC, EQ even WOW had it now we get CRAP that looks pretty but its STILL CRAP!! You want immersion? great graphics? step the hell outside and have yourself a ball.
Graphics..... If one of my friends said that crap I'd smack em in the forehead.
Would you even have friends who are numbnuts like that? I wouldnt.
Ok ok so you guys want lousy graphics. I get it.
I'm afraid you're experiencing whiplash. It happens due to overreacting to something you don't like. I recommend some yoga for centering yourself and getting some balance back.
But graphics still look like crap. I saw some later probably doctored screens that looked great. Good definition and detail on models. But vids tell another story. I don't care how great the gameplay is if instead of feeling immersed I'm imagining how much better they could have made it look it ruins the whole experience.
Are you KIDDING ME? Its crap like this that lets BS like AoC do so well on sales by releasing a game in a shitty state. Who cares if its bugged to hell, alot of box advertisement is missing, the company blows smoke up my ass....IT LOOKS PURDY.
I'm sorry greymann but with that statement alone even other WAR haters will not listne to anything you say. No true gamer wants graphics over gameplay.
Wow are people still using this failed logic? So crappy graphics means great gameplay huh? Sorry I choose BOTH and demand BOTH before my card comes out the wallet. AoC only looked good at the intro phase. The graphics were crap in that game and by graphics I mean art not the engine. The attempt at realistic proportioned models is always a mistake because few of these artists / animators are great at anatomy and producing believable animation. That's only one example. Most games just fail to immerse the player into the world due to graphics. The game that wins is the game that has does it all (graphics/gameplay) top notch. And I'm not trying to win a popularity contest here so I really don't care who listens. Big meh to you.
No, but great graphics doesn't mean great gameplay. Actually, usually, great graphics means crappy gameplay, from what I've seen with Vanguard and AoC. Solely because developers focus on the graphical part of the game over the gameplay.
I for one can live with WARs graphics, nothing awful about them, nothing stunning either though.
Right but I can think of some games that did it all. Why argue just for one or the other. I'm just saying Mythic should step it up. The fact is all most of us have seen of the game, other than hype, is media. I never said great graphics means great gameplay. If think a developer should focus mainly on gameplay but why should they sacrifice other parts of the game to give us gameplay? I've never understood this arguement... graphicswhore phobia or something.
But graphics still look like crap. I saw some later probably doctored screens that looked great. Good definition and detail on models. But vids tell another story. I don't care how great the gameplay is if instead of feeling immersed I'm imagining how much better they could have made it look it ruins the whole experience.
Are you KIDDING ME? Its crap like this that lets BS like AoC do so well on sales by releasing a game in a shitty state. Who cares if its bugged to hell, alot of box advertisement is missing, the company blows smoke up my ass....IT LOOKS PURDY.
I'm sorry greymann but with that statement alone even other WAR haters will not listne to anything you say. No true gamer wants graphics over gameplay.
Wow are people still using this failed logic? So crappy graphics means great gameplay huh? Sorry I choose BOTH and demand BOTH before my card comes out the wallet. AoC only looked good at the intro phase. The graphics were crap in that game and by graphics I mean art not the engine. The attempt at realistic proportioned models is always a mistake because few of these artists / animators are great at anatomy and producing believable animation. That's only one example. Most games just fail to immerse the player into the world due to graphics. The game that wins is the game that has does it all (graphics/gameplay) top notch. And I'm not trying to win a popularity contest here so I really don't care who listens. Big meh to you.
No, but great graphics doesn't mean great gameplay. Actually, usually, great graphics means crappy gameplay, from what I've seen with Vanguard and AoC. Solely because developers focus on the graphical part of the game over the gameplay.
I for one can live with WARs graphics, nothing awful about them, nothing stunning either though.
Right but I can think of some games that did it all. Why argue just for one or the other. I'm just saying Mythic should step it up. Point is for most people all we've seen of the game, other than hype which means nothing, is media. So... what else do I have to work with but graphics. Hello.
I'd like to know of some MMOs that did it all. Only one I can think of might be LOTRO but I personally hated its gameplay.
I for one like the WAR art style, because that's the way the WAR franchise has looked. I don't see nothing wrong with it, but I'd like to see some more detail, that's about it. And if them recent videos are real, then I'm really impressed.
But like I said, graphics and gameplay are a matter of opinion, to each his own
Link a vid that you're impressed by. The latest one I saw look flat. No lighting effects, flat textures. Models made everthing look skinny like at the end of those 70's movies where everything gets stretched. lol. Those latest screens on the other hand look like they're from another game--real solid looking characters, definition and depth of color. I'd like to see a vid that matches.
But graphics still look like crap. I saw some later probably doctored screens that looked great. Good definition and detail on models. But vids tell another story. I don't care how great the gameplay is if instead of feeling immersed I'm imagining how much better they could have made it look it ruins the whole experience.
Are you KIDDING ME? Its crap like this that lets BS like AoC do so well on sales by releasing a game in a shitty state. Who cares if its bugged to hell, alot of box advertisement is missing, the company blows smoke up my ass....IT LOOKS PURDY.
I'm sorry greymann but with that statement alone even other WAR haters will not listne to anything you say. No true gamer wants graphics over gameplay.
Wow are people still using this failed logic? So crappy graphics means great gameplay huh? Sorry I choose BOTH and demand BOTH before my card comes out the wallet. AoC only looked good at the intro phase. The graphics were crap in that game and by graphics I mean art not the engine. The attempt at realistic proportioned models is always a mistake because few of these artists / animators are great at anatomy and producing believable animation. That's only one example. Most games just fail to immerse the player into the world due to graphics. The game that wins is the game that has does it all (graphics/gameplay) top notch. And I'm not trying to win a popularity contest here so I really don't care who listens. Big meh to you.
No, but great graphics doesn't mean great gameplay. Actually, usually, great graphics means crappy gameplay, from what I've seen with Vanguard and AoC. Solely because developers focus on the graphical part of the game over the gameplay.
I for one can live with WARs graphics, nothing awful about them, nothing stunning either though.
Right but I can think of some games that did it all. Why argue just for one or the other. I'm just saying Mythic should step it up. Point is for most people all we've seen of the game, other than hype which means nothing, is media. So... what else do I have to work with but graphics. Hello.
I'd like to know of some MMOs that did it all. Only one I can think of might be LOTRO but I personally hated its gameplay.
I for one like the WAR art style, because that's the way the WAR franchise has looked. I don't see nothing wrong with it, but I'd like to see some more detail, that's about it. And if them recent videos are real, then I'm really impressed.
But like I said, graphics and gameplay are a matter of opinion, to each his own
Link a vid that you're impressed by. The latest one I saw look flat. No lighting effects, flat textures. Models made everthing look skinny like at the end of those 70's movies where everything gets stretched. lol. Those latest screens on the other hand look like they're from another game--real solid looking characters, definition and depth of color. I'd like to see a vid that matches.
i would like to but, you have to find some of the ones im looking at. l2google
But graphics still look like crap. I saw some later probably doctored screens that looked great. Good definition and detail on models. But vids tell another story. I don't care how great the gameplay is if instead of feeling immersed I'm imagining how much better they could have made it look it ruins the whole experience.
Are you KIDDING ME? Its crap like this that lets BS like AoC do so well on sales by releasing a game in a shitty state. Who cares if its bugged to hell, alot of box advertisement is missing, the company blows smoke up my ass....IT LOOKS PURDY.
I'm sorry greymann but with that statement alone even other WAR haters will not listne to anything you say. No true gamer wants graphics over gameplay.
Wow are people still using this failed logic? So crappy graphics means great gameplay huh? Sorry I choose BOTH and demand BOTH before my card comes out the wallet. AoC only looked good at the intro phase. The graphics were crap in that game and by graphics I mean art not the engine. The attempt at realistic proportioned models is always a mistake because few of these artists / animators are great at anatomy and producing believable animation. That's only one example. Most games just fail to immerse the player into the world due to graphics. The game that wins is the game that has does it all (graphics/gameplay) top notch. And I'm not trying to win a popularity contest here so I really don't care who listens. Big meh to you.
No, but great graphics doesn't mean great gameplay. Actually, usually, great graphics means crappy gameplay, from what I've seen with Vanguard and AoC. Solely because developers focus on the graphical part of the game over the gameplay.
I for one can live with WARs graphics, nothing awful about them, nothing stunning either though.
Right but I can think of some games that did it all. Why argue just for one or the other. I'm just saying Mythic should step it up. Point is for most people all we've seen of the game, other than hype which means nothing, is media. So... what else do I have to work with but graphics. Hello.
I'd like to know of some MMOs that did it all. Only one I can think of might be LOTRO but I personally hated its gameplay.
I for one like the WAR art style, because that's the way the WAR franchise has looked. I don't see nothing wrong with it, but I'd like to see some more detail, that's about it. And if them recent videos are real, then I'm really impressed.
But like I said, graphics and gameplay are a matter of opinion, to each his own
Link a vid that you're impressed by. The latest one I saw look flat. No lighting effects, flat textures. Models made everthing look skinny like at the end of those 70's movies where everything gets stretched. lol. Those latest screens on the other hand look like they're from another game--real solid looking characters, definition and depth of color. I'd like to see a vid that matches.
i would like to but, you have to find some of the ones im looking at. l2google
You mentioned recent videos. I can't know which ones you're looking at by using google. Guess you forgot where you saw them. I mean we can either have meaningful discussion or throw insults at every opportunity. Not the best way to defend your game.
This is a pretty smooth vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7ppA4N6tNE&feature=related
This has some nice detail: http://www.ea.com/theater?mediaType=video&itemId=Warhammer%20Online-20080712123228449
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Guys! I'm hopelessly lost in a mountain of mole hills! Them damn moles!
I think your way to concerned about this.these decisions wer made for the good of the game.Maybe we will get a slayer melee dps charecter in the future.Or maybe instead of the gay looking kobs will get knight panther.How about instead of two or three sieges happening at once you have one for the realm to focus on.These cuts are good for the game.
How do you know that?