I understand that they didn't plan to implement all the races and classes into the online game at the very beginning. I myself won't buy the game until all the races and classes are implementet into the online game that exists in the tabletop game.
The your waiting till 2011 or 2012 to play a good game from the warhammer world?
Wow, just wow. I never knew nerds could be so hard core.
I understand that they didn't plan to implement all the races and classes into the online game at the very beginning. I myself won't buy the game until all the races and classes are implementet into the online game that exists in the tabletop game.
Personally I'd love to see Undead and Skaven, Slann and all the other races implemented, but it's just not going to happen.
You have any idea how many classes you are talking about? Literally hundreds!! It's a fantasy. 20 classes and 6 races is plenty for a start.
Looks like you'll never be buying this game and, for the reasons you state, thats just a shame.
Expresso gave me a Hearthstone beta key.....I'm so happy
I like the concepts that Warhammer has but I ahve not liked the Vids I have seen of it on Youtube...... I know we have heard 1000000 times that it isnt a WoW clone and is nothing like WoW but all the vids I have seen of battle look identical to WoW battlegrounds......
I like the concepts that Warhammer has but I ahve not liked the Vids I have seen of it on Youtube...... I know we have heard 1000000 times that it isnt a WoW clone and is nothing like WoW but all the vids I have seen of battle look identical to WoW battlegrounds......
too bad you weren't on this morning. There were some awesome beta leak videos that someone posted. Trust me...just wait until the NDA drops and do a little research. There are battle-ground type places called senarios, but they have different objectives and more importance than WoW BGs
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I like the concepts that Warhammer has but I ahve not liked the Vids I have seen of it on Youtube...... I know we have heard 1000000 times that it isnt a WoW clone and is nothing like WoW but all the vids I have seen of battle look identical to WoW battlegrounds......
too bad you weren't on this morning. There were some awesome beta leak videos that someone posted. Trust me...just wait until the NDA drops and do a little research. There are battle-ground type places called senarios, but they have different objectives and more importance than WoW BGs
Heh, if you guys look around some other forums, there is tons of beta videos that break the NDA.
The scenarios look NOTHING like WoW's BGs. Only thing they have in common is they're instanced and similar objectives. They are also bigger from what I've seen, and there's A LOT more than them.
I only go in some trouble for posting the videos once on another forum, and don't want to get in trouble here, but if you look around they're easy to find. From the ones I've seen, all my concerns have been cleared up animation/graphic wise, and I'm so psyched for beta after seeing some of them today.
And I know the exact leak you're talking about Capn, because that's the one I got in trouble over on another forum after I took it from here =P Awesome footage.
You have to understand. When you come from WoW...you tend to look at what's different and what's relatively the same. To someone that's done no research...they look almost exactly like a WoW BG. We know better, but people just tend to compare it to the game they know the best.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Guys! I'm hopelessly lost in a mountain of mole hills! Them damn moles!
Oh please just give up on this crap, Releasehammer will decide whether it is a failure or not and until then it is pure speculation that both sides continue to goad each other with.
"Speek for yourself, I dno't make misteaks." - fyerwall
Oh please just give up on this crap, Releasehammer will decide whether it is a failure or not and until then it is pure speculation that both sides continue to goad each other with.
Yah, but it's fun to debate this kind of stuff. I don't want to just talk about features ALL the time =P
---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Guys! I'm hopelessly lost in a mountain of mole hills! Them damn moles!
I like the concepts that Warhammer has but I ahve not liked the Vids I have seen of it on Youtube...... I know we have heard 1000000 times that it isnt a WoW clone and is nothing like WoW but all the vids I have seen of battle look identical to WoW battlegrounds......
too bad you weren't on this morning. There were some awesome beta leak videos that someone posted. Trust me...just wait until the NDA drops and do a little research. There are battle-ground type places called senarios, but they have different objectives and more importance than WoW BGs
Heh, if you guys look around some other forums, there is tons of beta videos that break the NDA.
The scenarios look NOTHING like WoW's BGs. Only thing they have in common is they're instanced and similar objectives. They are also bigger from what I've seen, and there's A LOT more than them.
I only go in some trouble for posting the videos once on another forum, and don't want to get in trouble here, but if you look around they're easy to find. From the ones I've seen, all my concerns have been cleared up animation/graphic wise, and I'm so psyched for beta after seeing some of them today.
And I know the exact leak you're talking about Capn, because that's the one I got in trouble over on another forum after I took it from here =P Awesome footage.
You have to understand. When you come from WoW...you tend to look at what's different and what's relatively the same. To someone that's done no research...they look almost exactly like a WoW BG. We know better, but people just tend to compare it to the game they know the best.
I've played WoW for years, and many MMOs before that. I started MMOs with UO, and played UO for 10 years.
I mean, you can see the maps of most of the scenarios, and none of them look like WoW's BGs. And there's how many scenarios again?
I can see where they *might* find a resemblance because they're both instanced, and both have strategic things to do in them, and they're both times. But WoW didn't even CTF, King of the Hill, or any of them play styles. They're not even the first to do something like BGs, DAoC had something similar IIRC. Might be wrong though =P
I'm just tired of people saying the game is like WoW. It's not, it has similar ideas (Which WoW didn't create, WoW took a lot of its ideas from MMOs before it. That's how MMOs work), but it's like copying WoW. Mythic is taking ideas and twisting them around to be different =D
Anyways, didn't mean to come off mean, if I did.
wow *borrowed* pretty much every idea they've had and just tried to improve upon them.
sort of like.... the warcraft toons and such are actually based upon.... warhammer
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
This man speaks the truth. WoW "borrowed" their ideas and water them down. And, I'd think it's pretty common knowledge Warcraft was based off Warhammer.
Ya, I forget which one of the many threads wow vs war graphics it was, but someone posted they didn't want WAR to look so much like WoW, even though they knew WoW copied Warhammers art direction back in the onld warcraft series.
Don't get me wrong, I don't want another WoW clone. But talking negative about a game that follows the art of the original IP, because its like the game that copied the same IP years earlier is legit?
Just another reason why WoW fanoys will never let wow go down. No matter how much BS Blizz slings.
First off all mmorpgs are pretty much alike. Thats what makes an mmorpg an mmorpg. They follow the same rules.
But besides that warhammer isnt anything like wow besides the regular stuff.In a way it might look the same but the game is totally and completely different from wow or any other mmorpg for that matter, except dark age of camelot.
For whoever played dark age of camelot or heard about its RvR. That is what warhammer is. Its got mythic's talent written all over it. Its not a silly linear all flash no content game like you are used to from some of the newer mmorpgs. Its about good fun gameplay with lots of content.
its a different game though. Its a war game. Im not sure what the plans are but its prob not a game where you go sit in peace and fish lol. SInce there's war everywhere in this game.
It wont be everyone's game but for those who like good solid gameplay with the emphasis on RVR, realm vs realm, and loads and loads of replayability then warhammer will be for you.This game is hugeeeeeeeeee. I believe it has over 70 zones total for you to play in, each with thier unique look.
Itll have about 20 classes, each unique and not like any other of the 20.
For those who like to pvp, warhammer, like dark age of camelot, will have RvR. Realm VS Realm. None of that silly stuff like other mmorpgs where pvp has no meaning besides ganking others. In warhammer its an entire realm vs the 2 other entire realms. Including alliances and keeps to siege and take and ranks, pvp gear, and skills to get. Warhammer will give you the real pvp. PVP like you've probably not played before, unless you played daoc, and well go ask around and hear how good pvp in daoc was.
Warhammer will give you war all over the place, keep sieges, group skirmishes, zerg vs zerg all over the warhammer world. Itll be loads of fun.
Besides that there's the trllions of quests and whatever else for pve. The beauty is you are never forced to pvp though the higher the tier the more you'll come across pvp areas.
Then yeah besides that there's the scenario's. Instanced pvp zones each with their unique look and unique setting.
Public quests all over the place where as soon as you enter the area you share the same quest goals with everyone else in that same area.
My idea is its a bit of a more old fashioned game which in my opinion is a good thing. Thank god for that. Its not a game for the console boys so to speak who are seeking linear fast lvling and everything pointed out for them etc.Those games are fun but they dont give a sense of achievement plus you finish them within 2 weeks. Its player friendly its not that it just leaves you more room for finding out things yourself and go whatever way you please. Be it grouping up, rvr, scenario's, public quests, normal quests and so on.
I think warhammer will be an awesome unique game. Im still playing aoc and in all honesty im sure that once their pvp system arrives, age of conan's, itll be a complete joke compared to warhammer's RVR.
Dont get me wrong though ill be playing aoc pvp for a while too. Im sure itll have its own unique charm. Itll just be to basic sinds pvp in aoc is simply an addon. It simply cant compete whatsoever and im really serious about that. Instanced 48 vs 48 siege fights on an agenda. Dont make me laugh lol. Warhammer will have a whole bunch of those keeps you can attack any minute of the day and 48 vs 48 will be small scale. Expect fights of 100+ vs 100+. Imagine this with your realm vs other realms. Itll be awesome fun.
Warhammer is made for RVR. Its not an addon pvp game like most mmorpg's approach pvp. The game is built around RvR from start till finish.
Would you like to own a keep with your guild banners all over it ?
Oh yeah and it seems to have a very solid guild system which you can rank up and each rank gives you special stuff.
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The your waiting till 2011 or 2012 to play a good game from the warhammer world?
Wow, just wow. I never knew nerds could be so hard core.
Personally I'd love to see Undead and Skaven, Slann and all the other races implemented, but it's just not going to happen.
You have any idea how many classes you are talking about? Literally hundreds!! It's a fantasy. 20 classes and 6 races is plenty for a start.
Looks like you'll never be buying this game and, for the reasons you state, thats just a shame.
Expresso gave me a Hearthstone beta key.....I'm so happy
I like the concepts that Warhammer has but I ahve not liked the Vids I have seen of it on Youtube...... I know we have heard 1000000 times that it isnt a WoW clone and is nothing like WoW but all the vids I have seen of battle look identical to WoW battlegrounds......
too bad you weren't on this morning. There were some awesome beta leak videos that someone posted. Trust me...just wait until the NDA drops and do a little research. There are battle-ground type places called senarios, but they have different objectives and more importance than WoW BGs
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Guys! I'm hopelessly lost in a mountain of mole hills! Them damn moles!
too bad you weren't on this morning. There were some awesome beta leak videos that someone posted. Trust me...just wait until the NDA drops and do a little research. There are battle-ground type places called senarios, but they have different objectives and more importance than WoW BGs
Heh, if you guys look around some other forums, there is tons of beta videos that break the NDA.
The scenarios look NOTHING like WoW's BGs. Only thing they have in common is they're instanced and similar objectives. They are also bigger from what I've seen, and there's A LOT more than them.
I only go in some trouble for posting the videos once on another forum, and don't want to get in trouble here, but if you look around they're easy to find. From the ones I've seen, all my concerns have been cleared up animation/graphic wise, and I'm so psyched for beta after seeing some of them today.
And I know the exact leak you're talking about Capn, because that's the one I got in trouble over on another forum after I took it from here =P Awesome footage.
You have to understand. When you come from WoW...you tend to look at what's different and what's relatively the same. To someone that's done no research...they look almost exactly like a WoW BG. We know better, but people just tend to compare it to the game they know the best.
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Guys! I'm hopelessly lost in a mountain of mole hills! Them damn moles!
Oh please just give up on this crap, Releasehammer will decide whether it is a failure or not and until then it is pure speculation that both sides continue to goad each other with.
"Speek for yourself, I dno't make misteaks." - fyerwall
Yah, but it's fun to debate this kind of stuff. I don't want to just talk about features ALL the time =P
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Guys! I'm hopelessly lost in a mountain of mole hills! Them damn moles!
too bad you weren't on this morning. There were some awesome beta leak videos that someone posted. Trust me...just wait until the NDA drops and do a little research. There are battle-ground type places called senarios, but they have different objectives and more importance than WoW BGs
Heh, if you guys look around some other forums, there is tons of beta videos that break the NDA.
The scenarios look NOTHING like WoW's BGs. Only thing they have in common is they're instanced and similar objectives. They are also bigger from what I've seen, and there's A LOT more than them.
I only go in some trouble for posting the videos once on another forum, and don't want to get in trouble here, but if you look around they're easy to find. From the ones I've seen, all my concerns have been cleared up animation/graphic wise, and I'm so psyched for beta after seeing some of them today.
And I know the exact leak you're talking about Capn, because that's the one I got in trouble over on another forum after I took it from here =P Awesome footage.
You have to understand. When you come from WoW...you tend to look at what's different and what's relatively the same. To someone that's done no research...they look almost exactly like a WoW BG. We know better, but people just tend to compare it to the game they know the best.
I've played WoW for years, and many MMOs before that. I started MMOs with UO, and played UO for 10 years.
I mean, you can see the maps of most of the scenarios, and none of them look like WoW's BGs. And there's how many scenarios again?
I can see where they *might* find a resemblance because they're both instanced, and both have strategic things to do in them, and they're both times. But WoW didn't even CTF, King of the Hill, or any of them play styles. They're not even the first to do something like BGs, DAoC had something similar IIRC. Might be wrong though =P
I'm just tired of people saying the game is like WoW. It's not, it has similar ideas (Which WoW didn't create, WoW took a lot of its ideas from MMOs before it. That's how MMOs work), but it's like copying WoW. Mythic is taking ideas and twisting them around to be different =D
Anyways, didn't mean to come off mean, if I did.
wow *borrowed* pretty much every idea they've had and just tried to improve upon them.
sort of like.... the warcraft toons and such are actually based upon.... warhammer
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
Ya, I forget which one of the many threads wow vs war graphics it was, but someone posted they didn't want WAR to look so much like WoW, even though they knew WoW copied Warhammers art direction back in the onld warcraft series.
Don't get me wrong, I don't want another WoW clone. But talking negative about a game that follows the art of the original IP, because its like the game that copied the same IP years earlier is legit?
Just another reason why WoW fanoys will never let wow go down. No matter how much BS Blizz slings.
I''m in beta
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First off all mmorpgs are pretty much alike. Thats what makes an mmorpg an mmorpg. They follow the same rules.
But besides that warhammer isnt anything like wow besides the regular stuff.In a way it might look the same but the game is totally and completely different from wow or any other mmorpg for that matter, except dark age of camelot.
For whoever played dark age of camelot or heard about its RvR. That is what warhammer is. Its got mythic's talent written all over it. Its not a silly linear all flash no content game like you are used to from some of the newer mmorpgs. Its about good fun gameplay with lots of content.
its a different game though. Its a war game. Im not sure what the plans are but its prob not a game where you go sit in peace and fish lol. SInce there's war everywhere in this game.
It wont be everyone's game but for those who like good solid gameplay with the emphasis on RVR, realm vs realm, and loads and loads of replayability then warhammer will be for you.This game is hugeeeeeeeeee. I believe it has over 70 zones total for you to play in, each with thier unique look.
Itll have about 20 classes, each unique and not like any other of the 20.
For those who like to pvp, warhammer, like dark age of camelot, will have RvR. Realm VS Realm. None of that silly stuff like other mmorpgs where pvp has no meaning besides ganking others. In warhammer its an entire realm vs the 2 other entire realms. Including alliances and keeps to siege and take and ranks, pvp gear, and skills to get. Warhammer will give you the real pvp. PVP like you've probably not played before, unless you played daoc, and well go ask around and hear how good pvp in daoc was.
Warhammer will give you war all over the place, keep sieges, group skirmishes, zerg vs zerg all over the warhammer world. Itll be loads of fun.
Besides that there's the trllions of quests and whatever else for pve. The beauty is you are never forced to pvp though the higher the tier the more you'll come across pvp areas.
Then yeah besides that there's the scenario's. Instanced pvp zones each with their unique look and unique setting.
Public quests all over the place where as soon as you enter the area you share the same quest goals with everyone else in that same area.
My idea is its a bit of a more old fashioned game which in my opinion is a good thing. Thank god for that. Its not a game for the console boys so to speak who are seeking linear fast lvling and everything pointed out for them etc.Those games are fun but they dont give a sense of achievement plus you finish them within 2 weeks. Its player friendly its not that it just leaves you more room for finding out things yourself and go whatever way you please. Be it grouping up, rvr, scenario's, public quests, normal quests and so on.
I think warhammer will be an awesome unique game. Im still playing aoc and in all honesty im sure that once their pvp system arrives, age of conan's, itll be a complete joke compared to warhammer's RVR.
Dont get me wrong though ill be playing aoc pvp for a while too. Im sure itll have its own unique charm. Itll just be to basic sinds pvp in aoc is simply an addon. It simply cant compete whatsoever and im really serious about that. Instanced 48 vs 48 siege fights on an agenda. Dont make me laugh lol. Warhammer will have a whole bunch of those keeps you can attack any minute of the day and 48 vs 48 will be small scale. Expect fights of 100+ vs 100+. Imagine this with your realm vs other realms. Itll be awesome fun.
Warhammer is made for RVR. Its not an addon pvp game like most mmorpg's approach pvp. The game is built around RvR from start till finish.
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Would you like to own a keep with your guild banners all over it
Oh yeah and it seems to have a very solid guild system which you can rank up and each rank gives you special stuff.