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McCain taps a young (attractive) woman to be his VP running mate

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  • NierroNierro Member UncommonPosts: 1,755
    Originally posted by Precusor


    Change we can belive in
    Tue, 08/26/2008 - 15:44 — Judicial Watch Blog
    Enthusiastically promoting its famous change rhetoric, Barack Obama’s campaign fails to mention that his new running mate’s top advisor and fundraiser pleaded guilty to participating in a kickback scheme with a major Obama donor recently convicted of 16 felonies.
    This rather convoluted story illustrates that, along with foreign policy experience, Delaware Senator Joe Biden also brings solid political corruption credentials to Obama’s presidential campaign. This, in turn, contradicts the Illinois senator’s trademark change message as well as his squeaky-clean image as a Washington outsider.
    A major news agency points out that the vice presidential candidate’s longtime advisor and campaign fundraiser, Chicago attorney Joseph Cari, was indicted in 2005 for helping the convicted Syrian fundraiser (Antoin Rezko) who bankrolled Obama’s political career operate a massive kickback scheme.
    Rezko, who has known Obama for years and raised hundreds of thousands of dollars for the senator, was convicted of 16 corruption-related felony charges earlier this year for plotting to squeeze millions of dollars in kickbacks out of investment firms seeking state business. Prosecutors say Rezko also provided hefty donations to Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich in exchange for appointments to state boards and commissions.
    www.judicialwatch.org/blog/20...ilty-extortion

    The best part about that argument is that Barack Obama had literally 0 involvement in any of it. McCain was actually in a scandal of his own.

    Corruption First.

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  • PrecusorPrecusor Member UncommonPosts: 3,589
    Originally posted by Nierro


     
    The daily show nailed it.
     

     

    www.youtube.com/watch

  • NierroNierro Member UncommonPosts: 1,755
    Originally posted by Precusor

    Originally posted by Nierro


     
    The daily show nailed it.
     

     

    www.youtube.com/watch

    That was 4 years ago before he was even in the senate. John McCain acknowledged that experience doesn't mean much when he picked Sarah Palin for VP and tossed that argument out the window.

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  • PrecusorPrecusor Member UncommonPosts: 3,589
    Originally posted by Nierro


     
    Corruption First.

     

    Obvious non story.. seeing as Obama isn't going after McCain for that so called keating 5 blah blah

  • NierroNierro Member UncommonPosts: 1,755
    Originally posted by Precusor

    Originally posted by Nierro


     
    Corruption First.

     

    Obvious non story.. seeing as Obama isn't going after McCain for that so called keating 5 blah blah

    Obama has more substantive issues to tear McCain apart with, such as his lack of economic knowledge, his disconnect with average Americans, his voting record..you get the picture.

    McCain can't and does not attack Obama on the policy level, because he cannot touch him on policy. So you see ads like "celebrity" and "Rezko".

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  • Cabe2323Cabe2323 Member Posts: 2,939
    Originally posted by Nierro

    Originally posted by Precusor

    Originally posted by Nierro


     
    Corruption First.

     

    Obvious non story.. seeing as Obama isn't going after McCain for that so called keating 5 blah blah

    Obama has more substantive issues to tear McCain apart with, such as his lack of economic knowledge, his disconnect with average Americans, his voting record..you get the picture.

    McCain can't and does not attack Obama on the policy level, because he cannot touch him on policy. So you see ads like "celebrity" and "Rezko".

     

    Hmm out of touch with the average American?

    Obama supports Gun Control:

     

    From Gallup Poll research:

    here is little evidence that gun control is, at the moment, a high priority for Americans. It does not appear in Americans' specifications of the most important problem facing the country, nor as a priority for Congress and the president to deal with at this time.

    * Just about 4 in 10 Americans are dissatisfied with gun laws in the country, while half are satisfied.

    * The pressure to make gun laws stricter appears to be mitigated. Just slightly more than half of Americans support making laws covering firearms sales more strict, at its lowest point since 2002.

    * More than two in three Americans oppose the government completely outlawing the right to possess a handgun.

    * Nearly 6 in 10 of Americans now say the government should enforce current gun laws more strictly rather than passing new laws. This percentage is up this year, similar to levels previously measured in 2002.

    * The public has grown slightly more likely to say that having a gun in the home makes it a safer, rather than a less safe, place to be. The opposite was true previously from 2000 to 2004.

    The Supreme Court's ruling on Thursday that a District of Columbia ban on handgun ownership is unconstitutional appears to be solidly in step with public opinion. A clear majority of the U.S. public -- 73% -- believes the Second Amendment to the Constitution guarantees the rights of Americans to own guns. And almost 7 out of 10 Americans are opposed to a law that would make the possession of a handgun illegal, except by the police.

    The practical outcome of the case was to overturn a Washington, D.C., handgun ban. In general, the public opposes sweeping bans on handguns. In the most recent Gallup Crime Poll, conducted last October, Americans opposed a law that would ban possession of handguns except by police and other authorized persons, by 68% to 30%.

    Obama is 100% pro Choice:

    Yet america is:

    1. Most Americans oppose the idea of passing laws to outlaw abortion and they soundly reject the idea of overturning Roe. v. Wade.

    2. Despite this, most Americans support the kind of chipping-around-the-edges limits on abortion that many states have enacted in recent years, and that continue to be promoted in others: parental consent for minors, informed consent for women, spousal consent, and laws that would prohibit the specific procedure known as "partial-birth abortion." All things that Obama voted against.  

    3. More broadly, a majority of Americans favor keeping abortion legal in the first trimester but would make it illegal in the second and third trimesters.

    4. Americans generally reject extreme positions on abortion (always legal or always illegal) in favor of middle-of-the- road positions (legal, but in only certain circumstances).

     

    Obama supports Gay Marriage:

    Even as a majority of Americans believe homosexuality ought to be an "acceptable alternative lifestyle," only 40% currently say marriage between same-sex couples should be legal; 56% disagree.



    Public support for legalizing gay marriage is somewhat higher today than what Gallup found at the outset of polling on the subject 12 years ago. In 1996, about one in four Americans thought marriages between homosexuals should be recognized by the law as valid. That increased to 35% in 1999 and to 42% in 2004. However, for the past four years, public support has failed to grow in a linear fashion; rather, it has fluctuated between 37% and 46%.

    So honestly who is out of step with Average Americans? 



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  • VemoiVemoi Member Posts: 1,546
    Originally posted by Nierro

    Originally posted by Precusor

    Originally posted by DailyBuzz

     



     

    He made a gut decision about who's best suited to help him get female votes, not who's best suited to serve as VP. Furthermore, I think he's wrong is the decision he made even considering the motivation.

     



     

    Bubba voters will give McCain the presidency.

    You're delusional if you think women are that stupid.

    The daily show nailed it.

     



     

    This is the full interview from Kudlow. Not just one line from it. Sounded to me like she was saying she would rather be productively working in Alaska. I can empathise with her. She can work on getting drilling and cleaning up curruption in Alaska. I am glad she changed her mind.  http://kudlow.nationalreview.com/post/?q=Nzc0NzA2N2M5ZTM2ZDI3ZTBiNDM2YTcwNzU4MGFiYTM=

  • ZindaihasZindaihas Member UncommonPosts: 3,662

    Well, it didn't take long for the "experts" to question the wisdom of McCain's pick.  So called "Presidential scholars" say McCain blew it by choosing Palin to be his running mate and that she is the least experienced choice for VP candidates in modern history.  Surprise, surprise.  These people who think they know more about politics than the average American get on my nerves with their opinions.  And the fact that they think Palin is a bad choice only increases my confidence in her.

    Egg heads who are bone heads

  • VemoiVemoi Member Posts: 1,546
    Originally posted by Zindaihas


    Well, it didn't take long for the "experts" to question the wisdom of McCain's pick.  So called "Presidential scholars" say McCain blew it by choosing Palin to be his running mate and that she is the least experienced choice for VP candidates in modern history.  Surprise, surprise.  These people who think they know more about politics than the average American get on my nerves with their opinions.  And the fact that they think Palin is a bad choice only increases my confidence in her.
    Egg heads who are bone heads



     

    Some more weird wild smear stuff.

    http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/31096_Whos_Behind_Anti-Palin_Smear_Site/comments/#ctop

    Edit....clicked on site and it now take you to a Obama tax cut calculater. And for my taxes I know it is wrong because it doesn't ask any questions but adjusted gross income. Are we going to the flat tax under Obama? Also it is odd that you wont get a tax cut at $100000- $125000 and then it kicks in again at $150000.

  • NierroNierro Member UncommonPosts: 1,755
    Originally posted by Cabe2323

    Originally posted by Nierro

    Originally posted by Precusor

    Originally posted by Nierro


     
    Corruption First.

     

    Obvious non story.. seeing as Obama isn't going after McCain for that so called keating 5 blah blah

    Obama has more substantive issues to tear McCain apart with, such as his lack of economic knowledge, his disconnect with average Americans, his voting record..you get the picture.

    McCain can't and does not attack Obama on the policy level, because he cannot touch him on policy. So you see ads like "celebrity" and "Rezko".

     

    Hmm out of touch with the average American?

    Obama supports Gun Control:

     

    From Gallup Poll research:

    here is little evidence that gun control is, at the moment, a high priority for Americans. It does not appear in Americans' specifications of the most important problem facing the country, nor as a priority for Congress and the president to deal with at this time.

    * Just about 4 in 10 Americans are dissatisfied with gun laws in the country, while half are satisfied.

    * The pressure to make gun laws stricter appears to be mitigated. Just slightly more than half of Americans support making laws covering firearms sales more strict, at its lowest point since 2002.

    * More than two in three Americans oppose the government completely outlawing the right to possess a handgun.

    * Nearly 6 in 10 of Americans now say the government should enforce current gun laws more strictly rather than passing new laws. This percentage is up this year, similar to levels previously measured in 2002.

    * The public has grown slightly more likely to say that having a gun in the home makes it a safer, rather than a less safe, place to be. The opposite was true previously from 2000 to 2004.

    The Supreme Court's ruling on Thursday that a District of Columbia ban on handgun ownership is unconstitutional appears to be solidly in step with public opinion. A clear majority of the U.S. public -- 73% -- believes the Second Amendment to the Constitution guarantees the rights of Americans to own guns. And almost 7 out of 10 Americans are opposed to a law that would make the possession of a handgun illegal, except by the police.

    The practical outcome of the case was to overturn a Washington, D.C., handgun ban. In general, the public opposes sweeping bans on handguns. In the most recent Gallup Crime Poll, conducted last October, Americans opposed a law that would ban possession of handguns except by police and other authorized persons, by 68% to 30%.

    Obama is 100% pro Choice:

    Yet america is:

    1. Most Americans oppose the idea of passing laws to outlaw abortion and they soundly reject the idea of overturning Roe. v. Wade.

    2. Despite this, most Americans support the kind of chipping-around-the-edges limits on abortion that many states have enacted in recent years, and that continue to be promoted in others: parental consent for minors, informed consent for women, spousal consent, and laws that would prohibit the specific procedure known as "partial-birth abortion." All things that Obama voted against.  

    3. More broadly, a majority of Americans favor keeping abortion legal in the first trimester but would make it illegal in the second and third trimesters.

    4. Americans generally reject extreme positions on abortion (always legal or always illegal) in favor of middle-of-the- road positions (legal, but in only certain circumstances).

     

    Obama supports Gay Marriage:

    Even as a majority of Americans believe homosexuality ought to be an "acceptable alternative lifestyle," only 40% currently say marriage between same-sex couples should be legal; 56% disagree.



    Public support for legalizing gay marriage is somewhat higher today than what Gallup found at the outset of polling on the subject 12 years ago. In 1996, about one in four Americans thought marriages between homosexuals should be recognized by the law as valid. That increased to 35% in 1999 and to 42% in 2004. However, for the past four years, public support has failed to grow in a linear fashion; rather, it has fluctuated between 37% and 46%.

    So honestly who is out of step with Average Americans? 



    Actually most of America is pro-choice..and the people that are gun crazy and anti-Gay rights never vote Democratic anyways.

    Plus I said policy, not family values gimmicks.

    But here, let me sum it up: Bush has a low approval rating. John McCain's foreign, economic, Iraq, and health care policies are basically the same as Bush. John McCain can not touch Barack Obama on policy.

    By the way, do you really think a 72 year old millionaire with a heiress trophy wife and 8 houses is more in step with Average Americans?

     

     

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  • Cabe2323Cabe2323 Member Posts: 2,939
    Originally posted by Nierro

    Originally posted by Cabe2323



     
    Hmm out of touch with the average American?
    Obama supports Gun Control:
     
    From Gallup Poll research:
    here is little evidence that gun control is, at the moment, a high priority for Americans. It does not appear in Americans' specifications of the most important problem facing the country, nor as a priority for Congress and the president to deal with at this time.
    * Just about 4 in 10 Americans are dissatisfied with gun laws in the country, while half are satisfied.

    * The pressure to make gun laws stricter appears to be mitigated. Just slightly more than half of Americans support making laws covering firearms sales more strict, at its lowest point since 2002.

    * More than two in three Americans oppose the government completely outlawing the right to possess a handgun.

    * Nearly 6 in 10 of Americans now say the government should enforce current gun laws more strictly rather than passing new laws. This percentage is up this year, similar to levels previously measured in 2002.

    * The public has grown slightly more likely to say that having a gun in the home makes it a safer, rather than a less safe, place to be. The opposite was true previously from 2000 to 2004.

    The Supreme Court's ruling on Thursday that a District of Columbia ban on handgun ownership is unconstitutional appears to be solidly in step with public opinion. A clear majority of the U.S. public -- 73% -- believes the Second Amendment to the Constitution guarantees the rights of Americans to own guns. And almost 7 out of 10 Americans are opposed to a law that would make the possession of a handgun illegal, except by the police.
    The practical outcome of the case was to overturn a Washington, D.C., handgun ban. In general, the public opposes sweeping bans on handguns. In the most recent Gallup Crime Poll, conducted last October, Americans opposed a law that would ban possession of handguns except by police and other authorized persons, by 68% to 30%.


    Obama is 100% pro Choice:
    Yet america is:
    1. Most Americans oppose the idea of passing laws to outlaw abortion and they soundly reject the idea of overturning Roe. v. Wade.

    2. Despite this, most Americans support the kind of chipping-around-the-edges limits on abortion that many states have enacted in recent years, and that continue to be promoted in others: parental consent for minors, informed consent for women, spousal consent, and laws that would prohibit the specific procedure known as "partial-birth abortion." All things that Obama voted against.  

    3. More broadly, a majority of Americans favor keeping abortion legal in the first trimester but would make it illegal in the second and third trimesters.

    4. Americans generally reject extreme positions on abortion (always legal or always illegal) in favor of middle-of-the- road positions (legal, but in only certain circumstances).

     
    Obama supports Gay Marriage:
    Even as a majority of Americans believe homosexuality ought to be an "acceptable alternative lifestyle," only 40% currently say marriage between same-sex couples should be legal; 56% disagree.


    Public support for legalizing gay marriage is somewhat higher today than what Gallup found at the outset of polling on the subject 12 years ago. In 1996, about one in four Americans thought marriages between homosexuals should be recognized by the law as valid. That increased to 35% in 1999 and to 42% in 2004. However, for the past four years, public support has failed to grow in a linear fashion; rather, it has fluctuated between 37% and 46%.
    So honestly who is out of step with Average Americans? 





    Actually most of America is pro-choice..and the people that are gun crazy and anti-Gay rights never vote Democratic anyways.

    Plus I said policy, not family values gimmicks.

    But here, let me sum it up: Bush has a low approval rating. John McCain's foreign, economic, Iraq, and health care policies are basically the same as Bush. John McCain can not touch Barack Obama on policy.

    By the way, do you really think a 72 year old millionaire with a heiress trophy wife and 8 houses is more in step with Average Americans?

     

     

    Obviously you didn't read this the first time:

     

    2. Despite this, most Americans support the kind of chipping-around-the-edges limits on abortion that many states have enacted in recent years, and that continue to be promoted in others: parental consent for minors, informed consent for women, spousal consent, and laws that would prohibit the specific procedure known as "partial-birth abortion." All things that Obama voted against.

    3. More broadly, a majority of Americans favor keeping abortion legal in the first trimester but would make it illegal in the second and third trimesters.

    4. Americans generally reject extreme positions on abortion (always legal or always illegal) in favor of middle-of-the- road positions (legal, but in only certain circumstances).

     

    Secondly of all McCain isn't a millionaire. His wife's family was self made millionaires (you know the whole American Dream) they started with 10K dollars and built their business. 

    McCain's only income is his Navy Retirement and Senator salary.  He signed a Prenup.  His wife owns everything else. 

    Hmm out of step with the average american.  Yeah that sums up Obama quite nicely.  Ivy league sure isn't average american, Lawyer sure isn't average american, Che Guevara considered a "hero" in his campaign sure isn't average american. 

    McCain seems to epitomize average American. 

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  • Cabe2323Cabe2323 Member Posts: 2,939
    Originally posted by Nierro  

    Plus I said policy, not family values gimmicks.

    This statement right here epitomizes the Democratic Party and why they are so out of touch with the everyday American.

    "Family Value Gimmicks?" 

    Are you serious?  Abortion, Gun Control, Marriage, these are some of the most important domestic issues to people.  To most people they are just as important as the Economy and Energy. 

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  • unknown22unknown22 Member Posts: 159

    imho.. the fact mccain picked a virtual nobody really doesn't do much for his campaign.. (and yes we can also say that obama is sort of a nobody)..

    but really.. the governor of bumfuckt, egypt??

    whats worse is that she graduated from the university of idaho.. what did she do there, learn how to grow potatoes?!  at least obama went to harvard law and knows his stuff.

    and really the only thing that comes to mind when i think of alaska and politics is one three letter word...

    ~OIL~

    this woman is renowned for bringing in billions of dollars in revenue thanks to her love of raising the oil taxes repeatedly. doesn't sound like someone i want for vp.. if she gets in office, i'll end up going broke just driving to the grocery store and back.

    even mccain straight up admitted that she has absolutely no experience whatsoever in foreign policy and the like, though he claims she'll "learn fast". which is totally ridiculous.. yeah, maybe she'll learn fast, but she'll just be learning straight from mccain. she won't actually bring anything of value on her own to the table, when the time comes, she'll just be her typical submissive republican female self, and nod at everything mccain says.

    i really don't think this will bring in hoards of feminists, clinton supporters, and the like (which i know is exactly what mccain was thinking when he chose a woman for his vp), to support a woman who is extremely pro-life to the max and plans to ban gay and lesbian marriages.

    idk.....politics aren't really my forte, but it seems to me like sarah palin and i are in the same boat there.. *chuckles*

    i think its painfully obvious that this is, though maybe a smart move on mccain's part, a really cheap move too.. not to mention, cheap moves are totally typical of mccain.. this is just as cheap (no wait.. its worse) than him comparing obama to the likes of paris hilton and britney spears..

    well.. if a woman does get into office.. i'd almost rather it be paris hilton anyway..

    www.funnyordie.com/videos/64ad536a6d

    all in all.. in a time where people need to get with the times more than ever.. a vote for a rigid broad from a frozen tundra doesn't seem like the answer to solving america's problems.

     

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  • NierroNierro Member UncommonPosts: 1,755

    lol

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  • ZindaihasZindaihas Member UncommonPosts: 3,662

    This is why picking Sarah Palin was a masterstroke on the part of John McCain:

    story

    He has effectively captured two groups with one pick.  As the story attests, the conservative base of the Republican party is suddenly electrfied.  McCain's pick exceeded their expectations.  Lukewarm conservatives are are now eager to contribute to and campaign for him.

    At the same time, there's no question some disaffected Hillary Clinton supporters will now surely vote for McCain with this pick.  Democrats are trying to downplay a woman being on the Republican ticket saying she is so conservative that Hillary backers won't be able to vote for her.  But the fact is that there are pro-life Democrats and Independents just as there are pro-choice Republicans.  And the ones who believe that Hillary got shafted will have no problem voting for McCain with Palin on the ticket.

    Democrats will continue to publicly call this a bad pick, but I guarantee you, privately, they are very concerned.

  • GoldknyghtGoldknyght Member UncommonPosts: 1,519
    Originally posted by BushMonkey

    Originally posted by Goldknyght

    Originally posted by Dekron


    Point one. Just because Obama says "Blah blah blah....alternative fuels...blah blah blah" doesn't mean he knows the first damned thing about the subject. Also, as with every other piece of bullshit he spews forth he does not claim how he will do it, only that he will do it.
    Yeah lets drill for oil lets keep the oil companies 12billion dollar Quartars rolling in.
    Lets not drill and have 10 dollar a gallon gasoline
    Point two. How is it desperation? He chose who he believed to be the best candidate. If the pick was a black you would say he is trying to appeal to black voters - same if the vp pick was gay, Indian, Native American, Muslim, etc. There is always a nutjob theory from the democrats.
    No he picks a canidate that is a dang Governor of ALASKA. She governs maybe 100,000 people whoopti doo. He wants the female vote its all over his ad when he slams barrack for not picking her. You make no sense and u only want the country to become a Rich and Poor nation nothing in between.
    Nothing stopped Obama from choosing Hillary now did it?

     



     

    You actually think even if they do drill for oil the gas will still not rise to 10 Dollars a gallon. They can charge you whatever they want. If you were actually paying attention in the news you would hear that we have enough gas to keep it low but the investors buy gas for what they think it will be in the future which in turn makes them charge you more. Pay attention to the details and not fear just gas rising oh god pain at the pump do whatever it takes to lower it. Europe already pays 10 or more US dollars a gallon. You don't hear them on the news talking about drilling. They just get a bike and economical cars, so someone might say the Smart Thing.

     

  • MalallMalall Member Posts: 135
    Originally posted by Zindaihas


    This is why picking Sarah Palin was a masterstroke on the part of John McCain:
    story
    He has effectively captured two groups with one pick.  As the story attests, the conservative base of the Republican party is suddenly electrfied.  McCain's pick exceeded their expectations.  Lukewarm conservatives are are now eager to contribute to and campaign for him.
    At the same time, there's no question some disaffected Hillary Clinton supporters will now surely vote for McCain with this pick.  Democrats are trying to downplay a woman being on the Republican ticket saying she is so conservative that Hillary backers won't be able to vote for her.  But the fact is that there are pro-life Democrats and Independents just as there are pro-choice Republicans.  And the ones who believe that Hillary got shafted will have no problem voting for McCain with Palin on the ticket.
    Democrats will continue to publicly call this a bad pick, but I guarantee you, privately, they are very concerned.

    I do not doubt that Palin is a nice person; however the majority of HC supporters are not going to vote for a ticket that does not support equal pay for women, support abortion rights, and voted against the Violence Against Women act. Voting on gender or race is stupid. It's the issues people. For those saying Palin has a "ton of experience" how can she is only 44. She has some, but certainly not a ton. Not to mention, she has a BS in journalism (maybe she has "transferable skills").

    Bad choice Mcdeath bad choice. keep on making them.

     

  • GoldknyghtGoldknyght Member UncommonPosts: 1,519
    Originally posted by Malall

    Originally posted by Zindaihas


    This is why picking Sarah Palin was a masterstroke on the part of John McCain:
    story
    He has effectively captured two groups with one pick.  As the story attests, the conservative base of the Republican party is suddenly electrfied.  McCain's pick exceeded their expectations.  Lukewarm conservatives are are now eager to contribute to and campaign for him.
    At the same time, there's no question some disaffected Hillary Clinton supporters will now surely vote for McCain with this pick.  Democrats are trying to downplay a woman being on the Republican ticket saying she is so conservative that Hillary backers won't be able to vote for her.  But the fact is that there are pro-life Democrats and Independents just as there are pro-choice Republicans.  And the ones who believe that Hillary got shafted will have no problem voting for McCain with Palin on the ticket.
    Democrats will continue to publicly call this a bad pick, but I guarantee you, privately, they are very concerned.

    I do not doubt that Palin is a nice person; however the majority of HC supporters are not going to vote for a ticket that does not support equal pay for women, support abortion rights, and voted against the Violence Against Women act. Voting on gender or race is stupid. It's the issues people. For those saying Palin has a "ton of experience" how can she is only 44. She has some, but certainly not a ton. Not to mention, she has a BS in journalism (maybe she has "transferable skills").

    Bad choice Mcdeath bad choice. keep on making them.

     



     

    This is just one crazy election if you ask me. McCain just threw in a damn Screwball and now its a foul ball. I'm not for any of the tickets really I just feel that the McCain ticket has to be the most dumb one. I don't know if anybody else has noticed but this country is in trouble and what Obama said I don't know if i can chance 10% on McCain with him backing 90% of the things Bush does. He is a POW so he will undoubtly think like a soldier and not a president. And as a soldier its blow shit up and ask questions later no matter the consequences. As for the Obama camp I'm sure there is flaws and i know someone here will or already has pointed em all out but in the end he wont be a McFailure.

  • VemoiVemoi Member Posts: 1,546
    Originally posted by Malall


    does not support equal pay for women,  



     

    Myth #1823

    Do you work with women who are getting payed different than you are for the same work. People are paid for the work they accomplish...black, white, male, female. Are you saying if it takes a woman all day to do a job that takes a man half the day, they should still get the same pay? This garbage is put out there and repeated like it is gospel. Be careful what you keep wishing for. Wait till the government comes in and tells cooperate America what everyone gets paid.

  • VemoiVemoi Member Posts: 1,546
    Originally posted by Goldknyght

    Originally posted by Malall

    Originally posted by Zindaihas


    This is why picking Sarah Palin was a masterstroke on the part of John McCain:
    story
    He has effectively captured two groups with one pick.  As the story attests, the conservative base of the Republican party is suddenly electrfied.  McCain's pick exceeded their expectations.  Lukewarm conservatives are are now eager to contribute to and campaign for him.
    At the same time, there's no question some disaffected Hillary Clinton supporters will now surely vote for McCain with this pick.  Democrats are trying to downplay a woman being on the Republican ticket saying she is so conservative that Hillary backers won't be able to vote for her.  But the fact is that there are pro-life Democrats and Independents just as there are pro-choice Republicans.  And the ones who believe that Hillary got shafted will have no problem voting for McCain with Palin on the ticket.
    Democrats will continue to publicly call this a bad pick, but I guarantee you, privately, they are very concerned.

    I do not doubt that Palin is a nice person; however the majority of HC supporters are not going to vote for a ticket that does not support equal pay for women, support abortion rights, and voted against the Violence Against Women act. Voting on gender or race is stupid. It's the issues people. For those saying Palin has a "ton of experience" how can she is only 44. She has some, but certainly not a ton. Not to mention, she has a BS in journalism (maybe she has "transferable skills").

    Bad choice Mcdeath bad choice. keep on making them.

     



     

    This is just one crazy election if you ask me. McCain just threw in a damn Screwball and now its a foul ball. I'm not for any of the tickets really I just feel that the McCain ticket has to be the most dumb one. I don't know if anybody else has noticed but this country is in trouble and what Obama said I don't know if i can chance 10% on McCain with him backing 90% of the things Bush does. He is a POW so he will undoubtly think like a soldier and not a president. And as a soldier its blow shit up and ask questions later no matter the consequences. As for the Obama camp I'm sure there is flaws and i know someone here will or already has pointed em all out but in the end he wont be a McFailure.



     

  • GoldknyghtGoldknyght Member UncommonPosts: 1,519
    Originally posted by Vemoi

    Originally posted by Goldknyght

    Originally posted by Malall

    Originally posted by Zindaihas


    This is why picking Sarah Palin was a masterstroke on the part of John McCain:
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    He has effectively captured two groups with one pick.  As the story attests, the conservative base of the Republican party is suddenly electrfied.  McCain's pick exceeded their expectations.  Lukewarm conservatives are are now eager to contribute to and campaign for him.
    At the same time, there's no question some disaffected Hillary Clinton supporters will now surely vote for McCain with this pick.  Democrats are trying to downplay a woman being on the Republican ticket saying she is so conservative that Hillary backers won't be able to vote for her.  But the fact is that there are pro-life Democrats and Independents just as there are pro-choice Republicans.  And the ones who believe that Hillary got shafted will have no problem voting for McCain with Palin on the ticket.
    Democrats will continue to publicly call this a bad pick, but I guarantee you, privately, they are very concerned.

    I do not doubt that Palin is a nice person; however the majority of HC supporters are not going to vote for a ticket that does not support equal pay for women, support abortion rights, and voted against the Violence Against Women act. Voting on gender or race is stupid. It's the issues people. For those saying Palin has a "ton of experience" how can she is only 44. She has some, but certainly not a ton. Not to mention, she has a BS in journalism (maybe she has "transferable skills").

    Bad choice Mcdeath bad choice. keep on making them.

     



     

    This is just one crazy election if you ask me. McCain just threw in a damn Screwball and now its a foul ball. I'm not for any of the tickets really I just feel that the McCain ticket has to be the most dumb one. I don't know if anybody else has noticed but this country is in trouble and what Obama said I don't know if i can chance 10% on McCain with him backing 90% of the things Bush does. He is a POW so he will undoubtly think like a soldier and not a president. And as a soldier its blow shit up and ask questions later no matter the consequences. As for the Obama camp I'm sure there is flaws and i know someone here will or already has pointed em all out but in the end he wont be a McFailure.



     



     

    And he voted for Bush's policies 90% of the time. Try Again.

  • Cabe2323Cabe2323 Member Posts: 2,939

    McCain Votes against party

     

    Some key votes (first yes or no is McCain, 2nd one is GOP, 3rd is Dems):

     

    7/18/06 Vote 206: H R 810: This legislation would allow federal funding for research on stem cell lines derived from embryos that would otherwise be destroyed. Yes No Yes

    5/25/06 Vote 157: S 2611: Would tighten border security and establish guest worker and "path to citizenship" programs Yes No Yes

     

    Alot of his supposed 90% just like Bush votes are actually votes on the Iraq WAR and the assinine Resolutions to withdraw troops.  I am sorry but Troop Commanders and Iraqi Military leadership should determine when our troops leave not Congress. 

     

     

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  • Tuor7Tuor7 Member RarePosts: 982

    My thoughts on this are mainly: yeah, she's hot. I'd be happy to sleep with her, but I wouldn't want her to be president if/when McCain kicks the bucket (McCain is what, 310? 320? right now? Well, really old).

    This has nothing to do with her political views. One of the things about being a VP is that you're only one step from being the president. Do you guys honestly think she'd be a good president? I don't.

  • VemoiVemoi Member Posts: 1,546
    Originally posted by Tuor7


    My thoughts on this are mainly: yeah, she's hot. I'd be happy to sleep with her, but I wouldn't want her to be president if/when McCain kicks the bucket (McCain is what, 310? 320? right now? Well, really old).
    This has nothing to do with her political views. One of the things about being a VP is that you're only one step from being the president. Do you guys honestly think she'd be a good president? I don't.



     

    Your first paragraph is just insulting.

    The Democrats have invested everthing into a person with bascially no accomplishments for president, not VP. Now they have to live with it. Arguments about inexperience between a VP and President  is not going to cut it. I am much more concerned about the heartbeat on the left than the heartbeat away.

    Dems have 2 people up with less experience with executive experience then Palin.

     

  • VemoiVemoi Member Posts: 1,546
    Originally posted by Goldknyght

    Originally posted by Vemoi




     
     



     

    And he voted for Bush's policies 90% of the time. Try Again.

    As Dick Morris said, congress votes overwellmingly on almost all the bills so all of congress has "voted with Bush" as you would say. Check out what congress has voted on and you will see what BS your statement is.

     

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