Dems have 2 people up with less experience with executive experience then Palin.
That means she has more executive experience than McCain as well. So, why didn't she run for president if she's so qualified? Because there's no way in hell anyone would vote for her in a primary, that's why.
The fact is, Obama announced his campaign, ran a tough race, and got enough votes for the nomination. Executive experience obviously isn't the main concern in this election. If it were, we'd have neither McCain nor Obama to choose from.
My thoughts on this are mainly: yeah, she's hot. I'd be happy to sleep with her, but I wouldn't want her to be president if/when McCain kicks the bucket (McCain is what, 310? 320? right now? Well, really old). This has nothing to do with her political views. One of the things about being a VP is that you're only one step from being the president. Do you guys honestly think she'd be a good president? I don't.
Your first paragraph is just insulting.
The Democrats have invested everthing into a person with bascially no accomplishments for president, not VP. Now they have to live with it. Arguments about inexperience between a VP and President is not going to cut it. I am much more concerned about the heartbeat on the left than the heartbeat away.
Dems have 2 people up with less experience with executive experience then Palin.
A person with an Ivy-league Masters degree in Law with even only a year experience in Congress ( the people who actually write the laws of the Federal government) trumps a govenor with a BS in journalism of a remote, lightly populated state any day. The combined experience of Obama/Biden (a 35 year vet of Congress, chaired the Committee on Foreign Relations and Senate Judiciary Committee) far outweighs the combined experience of McCain/Palin. (Palin being the major weak link of the ticket not McCain)
Your first paragraph is just insulting. The Democrats have invested everthing into a person with bascially no accomplishments for president, not VP. Now they have to live with it. Arguments about inexperience between a VP and President is not going to cut it. I am much more concerned about the heartbeat on the left than the heartbeat away. Dems have 2 people up with less experience with executive experience then Palin.
Oh dear. Insulting. How tragic.
What does what I said have to do with the Dems? FYI, I'm definitely not voting for Obama, in part because I don't think he has enough experience, but mostly because I despise liberalism/socialism.
Palin might be a good person, but I wouldn't want her as president.
Sorry there is a reason that Governor's overwhelmingly are elected President. Even the most inexperienced Governor is more qualified then a Senator to be President.
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Sorry there is a reason that Governor's overwhelmingly are elected President. Even the most inexperienced Governor is more qualified then a Senator to be President.
Yeah cuz G Dub Bush is so showing how good governers are in office.
Do you work with women who are getting payed different than you are for the same work. People are paid for the work they accomplish...black, white, male, female. Are you saying if it takes a woman all day to do a job that takes a man half the day, they should still get the same pay? This garbage is put out there and repeated like it is gospel. Be careful what you keep wishing for. Wait till the government comes in and tells cooperate America what everyone gets paid.
how can you tell me that equal pay for women is garbage?
I worked in a factory for six years, i was one of two women working in the plant, and did not receive equal pay the entire time i was there. i was making an entire dollar less per hour than the other men working there. for SIX years. and yeah, i worked just as hard as they did, if not harder. half the time i felt like i was babysitting a bunch of grown men. i failed to see why they were getting a whole dollar more than me, when they would slack off the whole time. and every time i would ask my superior about receiving equal pay, i was told i would get it next year. FOR SIX YEARS. that's the real garbage, imo.
so stop talking about what you don't know.
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Sorry there is a reason that Governor's overwhelmingly are elected President. Even the most inexperienced Governor is more qualified then a Senator to be President.
In an alternate universe this may be a valid argument. We had the option of selecting a governor this year and we chose not to. Obviously, the concerns of the American people in this election are not executive experience, or we'd be choosing between Bill Richardson and Mike Huckabee right now.
Do republicans seriously intend to ride this executive experience argument to the white house? God help them . . . . .
Sorry there is a reason that Governor's overwhelmingly are elected President. Even the most inexperienced Governor is more qualified then a Senator to be President.
In an alternate universe this may be a valid argument. We had the option of selecting a governor this year and we chose not to. Obviously, the concerns of the American people in this election are not executive experience, or we'd be choosing between Bill Richardson and Mike Huckabee right now.
Do republicans seriously intend to ride this executive experience argument to the white house? God help them . . . . .
Sorry but a 2 year governor of even the smallest state is more qualified then a Freshman Senator. That is the reality of what each job entails.
Drafting legislation has nothing to do with being President. There is a separation of power between the three for a reason. They do separate things so there will be checks and balances. That is why historically Congressman fair a lot worse then Governors. Especially in recent times.
Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, Carter were All governors.
Now that being said. I don't believe either Obama or McCain were the best choice for the job. But of the two I believe McCain is the lesser of two evils. Obama in my opinion is way too wrong for this country on his beliefs.
Personally I would of rather seen a completely new ticket.
There was a rumor floating around of a Bloomberg/Gates (Bill Gates) ticket. I would of seriously considered that ticket.
While Bloomberg has differing social views then I on quite a few issues, the most important issues are Fiscal Conservativeness. Which Obama is so much the opposite from it isn't even funny.
As I have said it before he isn't even a New Democrat (Like Bill Clinton) which is basically a fiscal conservative as democrats get.
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Oh I also wanted to note that Obama is being a little ridiculous in his comparison.
Did you see the interview where he compares his current job (running for President) to Palin. Yet he compares to Palin's job as Mayor and not her current Job as Governor.
Why is that?
Well I would guess it is because Obama looks bad in a comparison of numbers (like he was doing) if he compares to her current job.
His numbers in the interview.
Obama currently employs 2500 people
Palin employed 50 people
Obama has a 36 million dollar per month Budget.
Palin 12 million dollars.
But in reality the comparison should of looked like this:
Obama currently employs 2500 people.
Palin currently employs 77000 people.
Obama currently has a 36 million dollar per month budget.
Palin currently has a 1.045 billion dollar per month budget.
Now why would Obama choose to compare to her job as a Mayor if he truely believes he is more qualified then she is?
Is it because the criteria that he uses shows that based SOLELY on this criteria THAT OBAMA chose to highlight Palin is actually between 31 and 47 times more qualifed then he is. I guess that wouldn't really go well.
The fact remains that McCain made about the best choice he could make in this election and the Democratic Party knows it and is a little scared. Sure she might not get a huge following from Hillary voters but she will get some. Sure she doesn't have great national experience but she has executive experience. Sure she isn't quite the Maverick choice that Leiberman would of been but she has gone against Republican leadership in her state. And the biggest reason that she was a great choice for McCain (and not amount of attacks from the Liberals about her daughter will change it) she brings all of the "Neocon evangelical" voters back into the game.
Now their choice isn't Obama (yeah right) McCain (ugh they weren't happy with him either) but a real conservative (in their opinion) a heartbeat away from the Presidency.
This morning on MSNBC they were talking about it. This isn't McCain's Party, this was Bush's party (ugh ) and it very well might be Palin's party now. ( Personally I am not sure on her. She is fiscally conservative though which is one of my major points)
The fact remains that the McCain/Palin ticket is a lot more attractive to Independents then the Obama/Biden ticket is. McCain went out and got a non-Washington VP. Obama chose the ultimate Insider not named Clinton.
While a lot of people one this site probably consider me a huge Republican that couldn't be any less true. I voted for Nader in 2000 and 2004. I voted for Ron Paul in the 2008 primary. I vote for who I think is the best Person for our Country. I have never in the past voted with Party just for the Party.
This election will probably be the first time I vote Republican. I am willing to give McCain the chance that he actually still is the maverick that a lot of his record shows. This choice of Palin reaffirms to me that he very well might be.
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Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, Carter were All governors. Now that being said. I don't believe either Obama or McCain were the best choice for the job. But of the two I believe McCain is the lesser of two evils. Obama in my opinion is way too wrong for this country on his beliefs. Is that why you supported Ron Paul and now Bob Barr McCain, because neither one is qualified to be president by your "executive experience" standard. My argument is, if you want to attack Obama for having no executive experience, you must acknowledge that he has just as much as McCain, regardless of the fact that conservatives want to tout the experience of a governor for all of 20 months. Besides, the nation already held their primaries and the nominees have been selected. Executive experience was not the focus of the voters. Personally I would of rather seen a completely new ticket. There was a rumor floating around of a Bloomberg/Gates (Bill Gates) ticket. I would of seriously considered that ticket. While Bloomberg has differing social views then I on quite a few issues, the most important issues are Fiscal Conservativeness. Which Obama is so much the opposite from it isn't even funny. I'm sure that would be great for the American economy. However, if you'd put those two together on a ticket and let the international chips fall where they may, you'd be putting myself and my family in serious jeopardy. EDIT: replaced Barr with McCain.
Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, Carter were All governors. Now that being said. I don't believe either Obama or McCain were the best choice for the job. But of the two I believe McCain is the lesser of two evils. Obama in my opinion is way too wrong for this country on his beliefs. Is that why you supported Ron Paul and now Bob Barr, because neither one is qualified to be president by your "executive experience" standard. My argument is, if you want to attack Obama for having no executive experience, you must acknowledge that he has just as much as McCain, regardless of the fact that conservatives want to tout the experience of a governor for all of 20 months. Besides, the nation already held their primaries and the nominees have been selected. Executive experience was not the focus of the voters. Ron Paul is a unique lawmaker. Here is a guy that wants to make the government smaller. I can overlook the lack of executive experience when you are following constitutional directed ideas. Obama and McCain are not equally experienced though. Obama's executive experience is running his Campaign. Okay, McCain was the commanding Officer of the largest squadron in the United States Navy. I am sorry but I don't see that as a equal comparison in experience. Personally I would of rather seen a completely new ticket. There was a rumor floating around of a Bloomberg/Gates (Bill Gates) ticket. I would of seriously considered that ticket. While Bloomberg has differing social views then I on quite a few issues, the most important issues are Fiscal Conservativeness. Which Obama is so much the opposite from it isn't even funny. I'm sure that would be great for the American economy. However, if you'd put those two together on a ticket and let the international chips fall where they may, you'd be putting myself and my family in serious jeopardy. No idea why they would be putting you and your family in jeopardy. Bloomberg is well liked throughout the world. He actually meets with Mayors from major cities throughout the world and US. Bill Gates also is well liked for his charity work throughout the world. Both men are self made Billionaires and know what it takes to run a company properly. I am sorry if you feel that socialism/Communism/Marxist/etc is the better way but that isn't the United States of America. Honestly if Obama is elected and takes us down that path then you will see a second Civil War. It might not start as dramatically as the first one but States will begin to Secede from the Union if he tries to force his "Change" upon them. States like Montana, Texas, Alaska, will probably be some of the first but they won't be the only. Our Constitution laid the foundation that this country was based on. Democrats like Obama (FDR before him) are bad for this country and their ideas are Constitutionally illegal. (most of the New Deal was ruled illegal)
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Honestly Obama should of chosen someone more like:
Gov. Kathleen Sebelius, 59, of Kansas.
Popular two-term Democrat found a way to win in the heart of Republican country. Seeking a second term, she named a former Republican state party chairman as her running mate for her second term and increased her winning percentage to 58 percent. Ancestry is important in the Sebelius equation: Her father, John Gilligan, was governor of Ohio, a swing state in the fall.
Washington Outside with Executive Experience and would of furthered his message of Change and new Politics.
Instead he chose a VP that is about as old school Washington as you get and a complete insider. At least with a Hillary choice he would of picked someone that could definitely carry votes. Instead he got a lot of the negatives of Hillary without the proven voter appeal.
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Honestly Obama should of chosen someone more like: Gov. Kathleen Sebelius, 59, of Kansas. Popular two-term Democrat found a way to win in the heart of Republican country. Seeking a second term, she named a former Republican state party chairman as her running mate for her second term and increased her winning percentage to 58 percent. Ancestry is important in the Sebelius equation: Her father, John Gilligan, was governor of Ohio, a swing state in the fall. Washington Outside with Executive Experience and would of furthered his message of Change and new Politics. Instead he chose a VP that is about as old school Washington as you get and a complete insider. At least with a Hillary choice he would of picked someone that could definitely carry votes. Instead he got a lot of the negatives of Hillary without the proven voter appeal.
There are several flaws in your logic:
First, you think Obama needs a running mate with executive experience so he can compete with McCain's pick of a 20 month governor of a cash factory.
Second, you think it's tough for democrats to win elections in conservative states/districts. There are many examples from special elections since 2006 that have proven otherwise.
Third (and most importantly), you think that Obama should choose a running mate with "appeal". The only criteria the VP selection needs to meet is: (a) what the presidential nominee thinks would most effectively compliment their governance of the nation, and (b) someone who is capable of assuming control if anything should happen to them during their term.
Obama made the right decision for his future presidency.
McCain might have made the right decision for his campaign, we'll have to see. Whether it is or not though, it was an extraordinarily short-sighted and politically calculated decision. Just as Obama choosing Hillary would have been.
There are several flaws in your logic: First, you think Obama needs a running mate with executive experience so he can compete with McCain's pick of a 20 month governor of a cash factory. I didn't say he needed it I said it would of helped. Second, you think it's tough for democrats to win elections in conservative states/districts. There are many examples from special elections since 2006 that have proven otherwise. Sure there was a lot of backlash in 2006 elections. But what have the Democrats done since gaining all those seats in Congress? Oh that's right they have a 9% approval Rating. Remember Obama is part of that 9% approval and a part of a Congress that has made less laws then any congress ever. They have also made more non binding resolutions and fluff stuff then any congress in history. Third (and most importantly), you think that Obama should choose a running mate with "appeal". The only criteria the VP selection needs to meet is: (a) what the presidential nominee thinks would most effectively compliment their governance of the nation, and (b) someone who is capable of assuming control if anything should happen to them during their term. How can Biden truely be "someone who is capable of assuming control" of a Obama directed government? Obama's whole theme is change. Biden isn't change. He isn't change at all. He is a significant part of the problem if you want Obama change. Obama made the right decision for his future presidency. McCain might have made the right decision for his campaign, we'll have to see. Whether it is or not though, it was an extraordinarily short-sighted and politically calculated decision. Just as Obama choosing Hillary would have been.
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Sure there was a lot of backlash in 2006 elections. But what have the Democrats done since gaining all those seats in Congress? Oh that's right they have a 9% approval Rating. Remember Obama is part of that 9% approval and a part of a Congress that has made less laws then any congress ever. They have also made more non binding resolutions and fluff stuff then any congress in history.
McCain is also a part of that 9%. However, there is a significant difference between the two. It's McCain's votes that prevent changes from occurring, along with his republican president that vetoes the bills that would help improve congressional approval and allow some action on important issues.
How can Biden truely be "someone who is capable of assuming control" of a Obama directed government? Obama's whole theme is change. Biden isn't change. He isn't change at all. He is a significant part of the problem if you want Obama change.
Biden is completely competent and a proponent of change. It's unfortunate that for the last 7 years he has been under the thumb of a self-important, inadequate, president that refuses to admit his mistakes. Biden will see much progress and many of the proposals that he endorsed passed once Obama is president.
There are several flaws in your logic: First, you think Obama needs a running mate with executive experience so he can compete with McCain's pick of a 20 month governor of a cash factory. I didn't say he needed it I said it would of helped. Second, you think it's tough for democrats to win elections in conservative states/districts. There are many examples from special elections since 2006 that have proven otherwise. Sure there was a lot of backlash in 2006 elections. But what have the Democrats done since gaining all those seats in Congress? Oh that's right they have a 9% approval Rating. Remember Obama is part of that 9% approval and a part of a Congress that has made less laws then any congress ever. They have also made more non binding resolutions and fluff stuff then any congress in history. Third (and most importantly), you think that Obama should choose a running mate with "appeal". The only criteria the VP selection needs to meet is: (a) what the presidential nominee thinks would most effectively compliment their governance of the nation, and (b) someone who is capable of assuming control if anything should happen to them during their term. How can Biden truely be "someone who is capable of assuming control" of a Obama directed government? Obama's whole theme is change. Biden isn't change. He isn't change at all. He is a significant part of the problem if you want Obama change. Obama made the right decision for his future presidency. McCain might have made the right decision for his campaign, we'll have to see. Whether it is or not though, it was an extraordinarily short-sighted and politically calculated decision. Just as Obama choosing Hillary would have been.
Well how do you make laws when your prez just vetos them???
Sure there was a lot of backlash in 2006 elections. But what have the Democrats done since gaining all those seats in Congress? Oh that's right they have a 9% approval Rating. Remember Obama is part of that 9% approval and a part of a Congress that has made less laws then any congress ever. They have also made more non binding resolutions and fluff stuff then any congress in history. McCain is also a part of that 9%. However, there is a significant difference between the two. It's McCain's votes that prevent changes from occurring, along with his republican president that vetoes the bills that would help improve congressional approval and allow some action on important issues.
How can Biden truely be "someone who is capable of assuming control" of a Obama directed government? Obama's whole theme is change. Biden isn't change. He isn't change at all. He is a significant part of the problem if you want Obama change. Biden is completely competent and a proponent of change. It's unfortunate that for the last 7 years he has been under the thumb of a self-important, inadequate, president that refuses to admit his mistakes. Biden will see much progress and many of the proposals that he endorsed passed once Obama is president.
I will just be glad when this election is over. But to be honest I wish the republicans picked a better canidate. McCain moves like a robot i was looking at him last night as he came out during the RNC and damn he just seems so confused. Like he is on the brink of death and to say F U demos he wants to get elected so this Palin can be Prez cuz i think thats all he is holding on to life for to say he was pres. Cuz i know hes been running since like the 90s.
I will just be glad when this election is over. But to be honest I wish the republicans picked a better canidate. McCain moves like a robot i was looking at him last night as he came out during the RNC and damn he just seems so confused. Like he is on the brink of death and to say F U demos he wants to get elected so this Palin can be Prez cuz i think thats all he is holding on to life for to say he was pres. Cuz i know hes been running since like the 90s.
You do realize that McCain moves like a Robot because of his injuries right? He was tortured and had both shoulders so badly broken that he can't lift his arms above his head. He has needed help dressing himself since he got back from Vietnam.
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Sure there was a lot of backlash in 2006 elections. But what have the Democrats done since gaining all those seats in Congress? Oh that's right they have a 9% approval Rating. Remember Obama is part of that 9% approval and a part of a Congress that has made less laws then any congress ever. They have also made more non binding resolutions and fluff stuff then any congress in history. McCain is also a part of that 9%. However, there is a significant difference between the two. It's McCain's votes that prevent changes from occurring, along with his republican president that vetoes the bills that would help improve congressional approval and allow some action on important issues.
How can Biden truely be "someone who is capable of assuming control" of a Obama directed government? Obama's whole theme is change. Biden isn't change. He isn't change at all. He is a significant part of the problem if you want Obama change. Biden is completely competent and a proponent of change. It's unfortunate that for the last 7 years he has been under the thumb of a self-important, inadequate, president that refuses to admit his mistakes. Biden will see much progress and many of the proposals that he endorsed passed once Obama is president.
How much change did Biden get passed in the past 35 years in Congress? Or was it not possible when Clinton was in office to pass this change he has been a proponent for then?
Obama supposedly was about a "new washington" and "changing the way things are done there" not just being different then Bush. It was supposed to be about how Washington does business.
I guess the only real change Obama stands for is whether an Elephant or a Donkey is the mascot for the President that is in office.
While I don't agree with all of McCain's positions at least he has shown he really wants Change. He always puts his Country first before even his Party.
What happens when a Democrat puts the American People before his Party? Oh that's right why don't you ask Leiberman?
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I will just be glad when this election is over. But to be honest I wish the republicans picked a better canidate. McCain moves like a robot i was looking at him last night as he came out during the RNC and damn he just seems so confused. Like he is on the brink of death and to say F U demos he wants to get elected so this Palin can be Prez cuz i think thats all he is holding on to life for to say he was pres. Cuz i know hes been running since like the 90s.
You do realize that McCain moves like a Robot because of his injuries right? He was tortured and had both shoulders so badly broken that he can't lift his arms above his head. He has needed help dressing himself since he got back from Vietnam.
And can he also not turn left like Zoolander then also because of these injuries? My referance is to when he turns around full circle to look at Palin who was clearly on his left but seemed as if his memory was so shot he forgot that. Palin for 09, this guys croking.
Sure there was a lot of backlash in 2006 elections. But what have the Democrats done since gaining all those seats in Congress? Oh that's right they have a 9% approval Rating. Remember Obama is part of that 9% approval and a part of a Congress that has made less laws then any congress ever. They have also made more non binding resolutions and fluff stuff then any congress in history. McCain is also a part of that 9%. However, there is a significant difference between the two. It's McCain's votes that prevent changes from occurring, along with his republican president that vetoes the bills that would help improve congressional approval and allow some action on important issues.
How can Biden truely be "someone who is capable of assuming control" of a Obama directed government? Obama's whole theme is change. Biden isn't change. He isn't change at all. He is a significant part of the problem if you want Obama change. Biden is completely competent and a proponent of change. It's unfortunate that for the last 7 years he has been under the thumb of a self-important, inadequate, president that refuses to admit his mistakes. Biden will see much progress and many of the proposals that he endorsed passed once Obama is president.
How much change did Biden get passed in the past 35 years in Congress? Or was it not possible when Clinton was in office to pass this change he has been a proponent for then?
Same can be said of McCain, what so called differance is he gonna make and he had Bush.
Obama supposedly was about a "new washington" and "changing the way things are done there" not just being different then Bush. It was supposed to be about how Washington does business.
I guess the only real change Obama stands for is whether an Elephant or a Donkey is the mascot for the President that is in office.
? You talk as if McCain's change is something Epic. Same ol BullShit same people buying it.
While I don't agree with all of McCain's positions at least he has shown he really wants Change. He always puts his Country first before even his Party.
How? elaborate. Seems hes talking same stuff as Obama just differant opinions on who should be taxed come January.
What happens when a Democrat puts the American People before his Party? Oh that's right why don't you ask Leiberman?
I will just be glad when this election is over. But to be honest I wish the republicans picked a better canidate. McCain moves like a robot i was looking at him last night as he came out during the RNC and damn he just seems so confused. Like he is on the brink of death and to say F U demos he wants to get elected so this Palin can be Prez cuz i think thats all he is holding on to life for to say he was pres. Cuz i know hes been running since like the 90s.
You do realize that McCain moves like a Robot because of his injuries right? He was tortured and had both shoulders so badly broken that he can't lift his arms above his head. He has needed help dressing himself since he got back from Vietnam.
And can he also not turn left like Zoolander then also because of these injuries? My referance is to when he turns around full circle to look at Palin who was clearly on his left but seemed as if his memory was so shot he forgot that. Palin for 09, this guys croking.
Republicans are incapable of turning left, even when they drive every turn has to be a right turn. Sometimes that makes it appears they are going in circles..........
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That means she has more executive experience than McCain as well. So, why didn't she run for president if she's so qualified? Because there's no way in hell anyone would vote for her in a primary, that's why.
The fact is, Obama announced his campaign, ran a tough race, and got enough votes for the nomination. Executive experience obviously isn't the main concern in this election. If it were, we'd have neither McCain nor Obama to choose from.
Your first paragraph is just insulting.
The Democrats have invested everthing into a person with bascially no accomplishments for president, not VP. Now they have to live with it. Arguments about inexperience between a VP and President is not going to cut it. I am much more concerned about the heartbeat on the left than the heartbeat away.
Dems have 2 people up with less experience with executive experience then Palin.
A person with an Ivy-league Masters degree in Law with even only a year experience in Congress ( the people who actually write the laws of the Federal government) trumps a govenor with a BS in journalism of a remote, lightly populated state any day. The combined experience of Obama/Biden (a 35 year vet of Congress, chaired the Committee on Foreign Relations and Senate Judiciary Committee) far outweighs the combined experience of McCain/Palin. (Palin being the major weak link of the ticket not McCain)
Oh dear. Insulting. How tragic.
What does what I said have to do with the Dems? FYI, I'm definitely not voting for Obama, in part because I don't think he has enough experience, but mostly because I despise liberalism/socialism.
Palin might be a good person, but I wouldn't want her as president.
Sorry there is a reason that Governor's overwhelmingly are elected President. Even the most inexperienced Governor is more qualified then a Senator to be President.
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Yeah cuz G Dub Bush is so showing how good governers are in office.
Myth #1823
Do you work with women who are getting payed different than you are for the same work. People are paid for the work they accomplish...black, white, male, female. Are you saying if it takes a woman all day to do a job that takes a man half the day, they should still get the same pay? This garbage is put out there and repeated like it is gospel. Be careful what you keep wishing for. Wait till the government comes in and tells cooperate America what everyone gets paid.
how can you tell me that equal pay for women is garbage?
I worked in a factory for six years, i was one of two women working in the plant, and did not receive equal pay the entire time i was there. i was making an entire dollar less per hour than the other men working there. for SIX years. and yeah, i worked just as hard as they did, if not harder. half the time i felt like i was babysitting a bunch of grown men. i failed to see why they were getting a whole dollar more than me, when they would slack off the whole time. and every time i would ask my superior about receiving equal pay, i was told i would get it next year. FOR SIX YEARS. that's the real garbage, imo.
so stop talking about what you don't know.
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In an alternate universe this may be a valid argument. We had the option of selecting a governor this year and we chose not to. Obviously, the concerns of the American people in this election are not executive experience, or we'd be choosing between Bill Richardson and Mike Huckabee right now.
Do republicans seriously intend to ride this executive experience argument to the white house? God help them . . . . .
In an alternate universe this may be a valid argument. We had the option of selecting a governor this year and we chose not to. Obviously, the concerns of the American people in this election are not executive experience, or we'd be choosing between Bill Richardson and Mike Huckabee right now.
Do republicans seriously intend to ride this executive experience argument to the white house? God help them . . . . .
Sorry but a 2 year governor of even the smallest state is more qualified then a Freshman Senator. That is the reality of what each job entails.
Drafting legislation has nothing to do with being President. There is a separation of power between the three for a reason. They do separate things so there will be checks and balances. That is why historically Congressman fair a lot worse then Governors. Especially in recent times.
Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, Carter were All governors.
Now that being said. I don't believe either Obama or McCain were the best choice for the job. But of the two I believe McCain is the lesser of two evils. Obama in my opinion is way too wrong for this country on his beliefs.
Personally I would of rather seen a completely new ticket.
There was a rumor floating around of a Bloomberg/Gates (Bill Gates) ticket. I would of seriously considered that ticket.
While Bloomberg has differing social views then I on quite a few issues, the most important issues are Fiscal Conservativeness. Which Obama is so much the opposite from it isn't even funny.
As I have said it before he isn't even a New Democrat (Like Bill Clinton) which is basically a fiscal conservative as democrats get.
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Oh I also wanted to note that Obama is being a little ridiculous in his comparison.
Did you see the interview where he compares his current job (running for President) to Palin. Yet he compares to Palin's job as Mayor and not her current Job as Governor.
Why is that?
Well I would guess it is because Obama looks bad in a comparison of numbers (like he was doing) if he compares to her current job.
His numbers in the interview.
Obama currently employs 2500 people
Palin employed 50 people
Obama has a 36 million dollar per month Budget.
Palin 12 million dollars.
But in reality the comparison should of looked like this:
Obama currently employs 2500 people.
Palin currently employs 77000 people.
Obama currently has a 36 million dollar per month budget.
Palin currently has a 1.045 billion dollar per month budget.
Now why would Obama choose to compare to her job as a Mayor if he truely believes he is more qualified then she is?
Is it because the criteria that he uses shows that based SOLELY on this criteria THAT OBAMA chose to highlight Palin is actually between 31 and 47 times more qualifed then he is. I guess that wouldn't really go well.
The fact remains that McCain made about the best choice he could make in this election and the Democratic Party knows it and is a little scared. Sure she might not get a huge following from Hillary voters but she will get some. Sure she doesn't have great national experience but she has executive experience. Sure she isn't quite the Maverick choice that Leiberman would of been but she has gone against Republican leadership in her state. And the biggest reason that she was a great choice for McCain (and not amount of attacks from the Liberals about her daughter will change it) she brings all of the "Neocon evangelical" voters back into the game.
Now their choice isn't Obama (yeah right) McCain (ugh they weren't happy with him either) but a real conservative (in their opinion) a heartbeat away from the Presidency.
This morning on MSNBC they were talking about it. This isn't McCain's Party, this was Bush's party (ugh
) and it very well might be Palin's party now. (
Personally I am not sure on her. She is fiscally conservative though which is one of my major points)
The fact remains that the McCain/Palin ticket is a lot more attractive to Independents then the Obama/Biden ticket is. McCain went out and got a non-Washington VP. Obama chose the ultimate Insider not named Clinton.
While a lot of people one this site probably consider me a huge Republican that couldn't be any less true. I voted for Nader in 2000 and 2004. I voted for Ron Paul in the 2008 primary. I vote for who I think is the best Person for our Country. I have never in the past voted with Party just for the Party.
This election will probably be the first time I vote Republican. I am willing to give McCain the chance that he actually still is the maverick that a lot of his record shows. This choice of Palin reaffirms to me that he very well might be.
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This shows the comparison that Obama tried to make.
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Honestly Obama should of chosen someone more like:
Gov. Kathleen Sebelius, 59, of Kansas.
Popular two-term Democrat found a way to win in the heart of Republican country. Seeking a second term, she named a former Republican state party chairman as her running mate for her second term and increased her winning percentage to 58 percent. Ancestry is important in the Sebelius equation: Her father, John Gilligan, was governor of Ohio, a swing state in the fall.
Washington Outside with Executive Experience and would of furthered his message of Change and new Politics.
Instead he chose a VP that is about as old school Washington as you get and a complete insider. At least with a Hillary choice he would of picked someone that could definitely carry votes. Instead he got a lot of the negatives of Hillary without the proven voter appeal.
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There are several flaws in your logic:
First, you think Obama needs a running mate with executive experience so he can compete with McCain's pick of a 20 month governor of a cash factory.
Second, you think it's tough for democrats to win elections in conservative states/districts. There are many examples from special elections since 2006 that have proven otherwise.
Third (and most importantly), you think that Obama should choose a running mate with "appeal". The only criteria the VP selection needs to meet is: (a) what the presidential nominee thinks would most effectively compliment their governance of the nation, and (b) someone who is capable of assuming control if anything should happen to them during their term.
Obama made the right decision for his future presidency.
McCain might have made the right decision for his campaign, we'll have to see. Whether it is or not though, it was an extraordinarily short-sighted and politically calculated decision. Just as Obama choosing Hillary would have been.
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Well how do you make laws when your prez just vetos them???
http://www.opensecrets.org
Learn your countrys finances Trust me the Rich ones dont care about you.
http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/expend.php?cid=N00006424&cycle=2008&page=1
dont u wish u could spend that kinda money
www.opensecrets.org/pres08/indus.php
Yeah lets look at opensecrets.org
All of that contributions from Lawyers for Obama might as well say lobbyist instead.
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I will just be glad when this election is over. But to be honest I wish the republicans picked a better canidate. McCain moves like a robot i was looking at him last night as he came out during the RNC and damn he just seems so confused. Like he is on the brink of death and to say F U demos he wants to get elected so this Palin can be Prez cuz i think thats all he is holding on to life for to say he was pres. Cuz i know hes been running since like the 90s.
You do realize that McCain moves like a Robot because of his injuries right? He was tortured and had both shoulders so badly broken that he can't lift his arms above his head. He has needed help dressing himself since he got back from Vietnam.
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How much change did Biden get passed in the past 35 years in Congress? Or was it not possible when Clinton was in office to pass this change he has been a proponent for then?
Obama supposedly was about a "new washington" and "changing the way things are done there" not just being different then Bush. It was supposed to be about how Washington does business.
I guess the only real change Obama stands for is whether an Elephant or a Donkey is the mascot for the President that is in office.
While I don't agree with all of McCain's positions at least he has shown he really wants Change. He always puts his Country first before even his Party.
What happens when a Democrat puts the American People before his Party? Oh that's right why don't you ask Leiberman?
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You do realize that McCain moves like a Robot because of his injuries right? He was tortured and had both shoulders so badly broken that he can't lift his arms above his head. He has needed help dressing himself since he got back from Vietnam.
And can he also not turn left like Zoolander then also because of these injuries? My referance is to when he turns around full circle to look at Palin who was clearly on his left but seemed as if his memory was so shot he forgot that. Palin for 09, this guys croking.
How much change did Biden get passed in the past 35 years in Congress? Or was it not possible when Clinton was in office to pass this change he has been a proponent for then?
Same can be said of McCain, what so called differance is he gonna make and he had Bush.
Obama supposedly was about a "new washington" and "changing the way things are done there" not just being different then Bush. It was supposed to be about how Washington does business.
I guess the only real change Obama stands for is whether an Elephant or a Donkey is the mascot for the President that is in office.
? You talk as if McCain's change is something Epic. Same ol BullShit same people buying it.
While I don't agree with all of McCain's positions at least he has shown he really wants Change. He always puts his Country first before even his Party.
How? elaborate. Seems hes talking same stuff as Obama just differant opinions on who should be taxed come January.
What happens when a Democrat puts the American People before his Party? Oh that's right why don't you ask Leiberman?
The sellout? If this is all u got...
You do realize that McCain moves like a Robot because of his injuries right? He was tortured and had both shoulders so badly broken that he can't lift his arms above his head. He has needed help dressing himself since he got back from Vietnam.
And can he also not turn left like Zoolander then also because of these injuries? My referance is to when he turns around full circle to look at Palin who was clearly on his left but seemed as if his memory was so shot he forgot that. Palin for 09, this guys croking.Republicans are incapable of turning left, even when they drive every turn has to be a right turn. Sometimes that makes it appears they are going in circles..........