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  • PsychoPigeonPsychoPigeon Member UncommonPosts: 565

    Problem is the bunny hopping isn't so fun .

  • RynneRynne Member UncommonPosts: 497

    Originally posted by PsychoPigeon

    Problem is the bunny hopping isn't so fun .

     Who said it is?

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,063

    I'm with the OP, targeted aiming isn't all that thrilling to me, but it wouldn't keep me from giving it a try.

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  • JoasJoas Member Posts: 27

    I did not know this before now and now I want to play it even more...!!! :-D

  • MykellMykell Member UncommonPosts: 780

    I was all excited for mmo's to introduce some FPS mechanics like actual aiming until i played Global Agenda. I live in Australia and unfortunately no mmo company supports our region with local servers so i am forced to play on US servers. With normal mmo targeting systems a ping of 300 is annoying but not unplayable. Well in a game like GA 300 ping is pretty much unplayable unless you enjoy banging your head against the wall in frustration.

    If more mmo's go down this path they will need to support regions outside the US properly if they hope to create and sustain a world wide playerbase.

  • PsychoPigeonPsychoPigeon Member UncommonPosts: 565

    Originally posted by Mykell

    I was all excited for mmo's to introduce some FPS mechanics like actual aiming until i played Global Agenda. I live in Australia and unfortunately no mmo company supports our region with local servers so i am forced to play on US servers. With normal mmo targeting systems a ping of 300 is annoying but not unplayable. Well in a game like GA 300 ping is pretty much unplayable unless you enjoy banging your head against the wall in frustration.

    If more mmo's go down this path they will need to support regions outside the US properly if they hope to create and sustain a world wide playerbase.

     They have the US, EU then they have companies in Asia who have servers there. I guess they reckon the Aus population wouldn't be big enough to make it worth while to set up a team out there. Your best bet is to play on communist China servers.

    And don't make it sound like the company will go bust if they don't provide Aus servers, MMORPG's have been doing fine without Aus people thank you very much.

  • MykellMykell Member UncommonPosts: 780

    Originally posted by PsychoPigeon

    Originally posted by Mykell

    I was all excited for mmo's to introduce some FPS mechanics like actual aiming until i played Global Agenda. I live in Australia and unfortunately no mmo company supports our region with local servers so i am forced to play on US servers. With normal mmo targeting systems a ping of 300 is annoying but not unplayable. Well in a game like GA 300 ping is pretty much unplayable unless you enjoy banging your head against the wall in frustration.

    If more mmo's go down this path they will need to support regions outside the US properly if they hope to create and sustain a world wide playerbase.

     They have the US, EU then they have companies in Asia who have servers there. I guess they reckon the Aus population wouldn't be big enough to make it worth while to set up a team out there. Your best bet is to play on communist China servers.

    And don't make it sound like the company will go bust if they don't provide Aus servers, MMORPG's have been doing fine without Aus people thank you very much.

    I didn't say Australia specifically. US developers either neglect or contract out other countries not just Australia. Take LOTRO going F2P in the US but its being bungled in the EU. I remember a heck of a scumozle with WAR and EU servers. New mmo's wanting to carve out a niche in the landscape need to cater to potential customers in a way existing mmo's don't if they want to be successful. Offering a second rate service to part of your customer base but still expecting them to pay the same for it won't cut it anymore.

    I would say the US is pretty much at its peak of mmo players now since it been catered to so well and due to WoW's success. If you want to be successful you need to try and expand into new territories like Asia, India and even Australia. There are close to 150,000 people playing on WoW's Oceanic servers. I doubt they are all shift working americans. I laugh when i see people saying Australia is a small gaming region. We spent over $2 billion on games last year and they estimate 2/3 of us play video games.

    ps i'm not having a go at Tera. It could be a great game but i'm personally not forking over money for an inferior service anymore.

  • SlyLoKSlyLoK Member RarePosts: 2,698

    Originally posted by Rynne

    Originally posted by Ozmodan

    Well be careful of what you wish for.  Manual aiming systems are often very open to exploits, speed hacks, aimbots etc.  They also have a tendency to affect the ranged players more than the melee players.  Just have to wait to see how they implement it.

    Aimbot will be completely uneffective in this game, its not an fps with guns; fireballs and arrows have traveling times. if you don't aim in advance then you will fail. As for melee, I guess it's easy to aim in the right direction now, isn't it?

    My question is.. Have you ever used an aimbot before? I can tell you right now that aimbots will not be useless in this game. They can easily be set to allow for any sort of leading distance required based on whatever ability is being used. Anyone that played Magestorm , Spellbinder , Splatterball..ect. can attest to aimbots still being a massive headache ( FYI those games projectiles also had a travelling times ).

    Not like it matters.. This game is going to consist of AE Group grindfests anyway.

  • RynneRynne Member UncommonPosts: 497

    Originally posted by SlyLoK

    Originally posted by Rynne

    Originally posted by Ozmodan

    Well be careful of what you wish for.  Manual aiming systems are often very open to exploits, speed hacks, aimbots etc.  They also have a tendency to affect the ranged players more than the melee players.  Just have to wait to see how they implement it.

    Aimbot will be completely uneffective in this game, its not an fps with guns; fireballs and arrows have traveling times. if you don't aim in advance then you will fail. As for melee, I guess it's easy to aim in the right direction now, isn't it?

    My question is.. Have you ever used an aimbot before? I can tell you right now that aimbots will not be useless in this game. They can easily be set to allow for any sort of leading distance required based on whatever ability is being used. Anyone that played Magestorm , Spellbinder , Splatterball..ect. can attest to aimbots still being a massive headache ( FYI those games projectiles also had a travelling times ).

    Not like it matters.. This game is going to consist of AE Group grindfests anyway.

    And I'm sure the aimbot can estimate what the player's movement is going to be in the next second better than a human player, what we got next? Robots?

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  • Not like it matters.. This game is going to consist of AE Group grindfests anyway.

    So if not matter why you continue to post this nonsense here? Is not your business how much hackers and exploits there will be coz u wont play aniway, move to your cataclysm, it will be released soon and have fun. Cya.

  • PsychoPigeonPsychoPigeon Member UncommonPosts: 565

    Why do you think aimbots won't work with Tera? There's no target system in FPS games and it works fine there, no reason for it not to work in an action rpg.

  • TealaTeala Member RarePosts: 7,627

    Needing to aim is the least issue I have with the game.  What is up with the way females run in this game?!  Seriously...who the hell runs like that?  I know it is an anime thing...but the good anime's do not have characters run like that.   So why do we have to have it in our MMO's?!   It looks terrible...terrible enough that it will cause me not to play it.   That type of running we saw in L2 and it helped drive me away from the game - not just the grind - but the stupid run animation.   As long as they keep that in...forget it.

  • RynneRynne Member UncommonPosts: 497

    Originally posted by Teala

    Needing to aim is the least issue I have with the game.  What is up with the way females run in this game?!  Seriously...who the hell runs like that?  I know it is an anime thing...but the good anime's do not have characters run like that.   So why do we have to have it in our MMO's?!   It looks terrible...terrible enough that it will cause me not to play it.   That type of running we saw in L2 and it helped drive me away from the game - not just the grind - but the stupid run animation.   As long as they keep that in...forget it.

     Which has nothing to do with this thread I believe.

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  • TralakTralak Member Posts: 78

    This game WILL have a lot of aimbotters, there is no way to avoid it kid... looking at swtor and other releases coming, this game is DOOMED...i see this movie before

  • RynneRynne Member UncommonPosts: 497

    Originally posted by Tralak

    This game WILL have a lot of aimbotters, there is no way to avoid it kid... looking at swtor and other releases coming, this game is DOOMED...i see this movie before

     It's called "don't believe in hype" and the sequel "300m budget doesn't guarantee success". There probably will be aimbots but they are gonna need much more to be effective than MW2 and the likes. At the very least I'm not worried about them.

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  • mmo22mmo22 Member Posts: 47

    Originally posted by Tralak

    This game WILL have a lot of aimbotters, there is no way to avoid it kid... looking at swtor and other releases coming, this game is DOOMED...i see this movie before

    Interesting that you would call somebody a "kid" while typing like one.  I can't see Auto-Aim scripts being a major issue for this game.  Such programs are usually catered to the FPS crowd who can be banned without much repercussion.  Whereas being banned in a MMO would be detrimental.

     

    Guy 1 hacks in FPS, gets banned.  Guy spends $9.99 to buy a new version and hacks again.

    Guy 2 hacks in MMO, gets banned.  Guy spends $49.99 to buy a new version, spends the next 8 weeks leveling up a character, another 4 weeks getting gear.

    Not to say it won't happen, but I don't see it being an issue.  If a level 1 aimbotter comes at me I will smack him once and watch him fold.

  • TralakTralak Member Posts: 78

    the hackers are always one step above, there is no way to trion detect this kind of  3º party program and enforce the law, sad but true. The "Kid" part is because u are fooling urselves believing in this unknow company.

  • mmo22mmo22 Member Posts: 47

    Originally posted by Tralak

    the hackers are always one step above, there is no way to trion detect this kind of  3º party program and enforce the law, sad but true. The "Kid" part is because u are fooling urselves believing in this unknow company.

    It's surprisingly easy to scan for memory alterations provided the user grants open permission.  You have yet to introduce a single piece of factual information but rather half-assed speculation.  It's incredibly frustrating to read this dribble, clearly you have no idea how such programs operate.

  • RynneRynne Member UncommonPosts: 497

    Originally posted by Tralak

    the hackers are always one step above, there is no way to trion detect this kind of  3º party program and enforce the law, sad but true. The "Kid" part is because u are fooling urselves believing in this unknow company.

     Unknown company composed of some of the most acclaimed developers and it's not Trion. Trion Worlds are working on another game called Rift. Every mmo has hackers if you do not know that already then you have not played any MMO at all. The only way to avoid them if you cannot tolerate is to play sp games. And I still believe tera will have less hackers due to the system unless you can provide a valid arguement.

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  • TralakTralak Member Posts: 78

    Originally posted by mmo22

    Originally posted by Tralak

    the hackers are always one step above, there is no way to trion detect this kind of  3º party program and enforce the law, sad but true. The "Kid" part is because u are fooling urselves believing in this unknow company.

    It's surprisingly easy to scan for memory alterations provided the user grants open permission.  You have yet to introduce a single piece of factual information but rather half-assed speculation.  It's incredibly frustrating to read this dribble, clearly you have no idea how such programs operate.

    you are right i have no ideia, but its a fact that korean designed games doesnt have a "justice hammer" at all... this game will have tons of bots,exploits and hackers and due to lack of subs they will not ban a single soul. I have no doubt of that as i have no doubt this game will fail.. but its just me ranting right?

  • stayontargetstayontarget Member RarePosts: 6,519

    Originally posted by Tralak

    the hackers are always one step above, there is no way to trion detect this kind of  3º party program and enforce the law, sad but true. The "Kid" part is because u are fooling urselves believing in this unknow company.

    haha failed on that one bro.

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  • TralakTralak Member Posts: 78

    Originally posted by stayontarget

    Originally posted by Tralak

    the hackers are always one step above, there is no way to trion detect this kind of  3º party program and enforce the law, sad but true. The "Kid" part is because u are fooling urselves believing in this unknow company.

    haha failed on that one bro.

    LOL hahaha that was kinda of funny, it brings a fresh air in our tread. Im seeing both companies as one my mistake.

  • mmo22mmo22 Member Posts: 47

    Originally posted by Tralak

    Originally posted by mmo22


    Originally posted by Tralak

    the hackers are always one step above, there is no way to trion detect this kind of  3º party program and enforce the law, sad but true. The "Kid" part is because u are fooling urselves believing in this unknow company.

    It's surprisingly easy to scan for memory alterations provided the user grants open permission.  You have yet to introduce a single piece of factual information but rather half-assed speculation.  It's incredibly frustrating to read this dribble, clearly you have no idea how such programs operate.

    you are right i have no ideia, but its a fact that korean designed games doesnt have a "justice hammer" at all... this game will have tons of bots,exploits and hackers and due to lack of subs they will not ban a single soul. I have no doubt of that as i have no doubt this game will fail.. but its just me ranting right?

    Please explain what you mean by "Justice Hammer" I would assume you mean they will not ban suspected botters.  In which case such responsibility is in the hands of the publisher, not the developer.  Tera could be developed in Nicaragua for all I care.  So long as En Masse provides an active stance when it comes to EULA violations I will be happy.  But stating that a game developed in Korea will fail is just bigoted, nonsensical jibberish.

    And yes, this is just you ranting.

  • TralakTralak Member Posts: 78

    Originally posted by mmo22

    Originally posted by Tralak


    Originally posted by mmo22


    Originally posted by Tralak

    the hackers are always one step above, there is no way to trion detect this kind of  3º party program and enforce the law, sad but true. The "Kid" part is because u are fooling urselves believing in this unknow company.

    It's surprisingly easy to scan for memory alterations provided the user grants open permission.  You have yet to introduce a single piece of factual information but rather half-assed speculation.  It's incredibly frustrating to read this dribble, clearly you have no idea how such programs operate.

    you are right i have no ideia, but its a fact that korean designed games doesnt have a "justice hammer" at all... this game will have tons of bots,exploits and hackers and due to lack of subs they will not ban a single soul. I have no doubt of that as i have no doubt this game will fail.. but its just me ranting right?

    Please explain what you mean by "Justice Hammer" I would assume you mean they will not ban suspected botters.  In which case such responsibility is in the hands of the publisher, not the developer.  Tera could be developed in Nicaragua for all I care.  So long as En Masse provides an active stance when it comes to EULA violations I will be happy.  But stating that a game developed in Korea will fail is just bigoted, nonsensical jibberish.

    And yes, this is just you ranting.

    this game has a "heavy korean spirit" .i.e  take a look at lineage dark elves and then take look on the horned girl. Then type hentai on google.

  • RynneRynne Member UncommonPosts: 497

    Originally posted by Tralak

    Originally posted by mmo22

    Originally posted by Tralak

    Originally posted by mmo22

    Originally posted by Tralak

    the hackers are always one step above, there is no way to trion detect this kind of  3º party program and enforce the law, sad but true. The "Kid" part is because u are fooling urselves believing in this unknow company.

    It's surprisingly easy to scan for memory alterations provided the user grants open permission.  You have yet to introduce a single piece of factual information but rather half-assed speculation.  It's incredibly frustrating to read this dribble, clearly you have no idea how such programs operate.

    you are right i have no ideia, but its a fact that korean designed games doesnt have a "justice hammer" at all... this game will have tons of bots,exploits and hackers and due to lack of subs they will not ban a single soul. I have no doubt of that as i have no doubt this game will fail.. but its just me ranting right?

    Please explain what you mean by "Justice Hammer" I would assume you mean they will not ban suspected botters.  In which case such responsibility is in the hands of the publisher, not the developer.  Tera could be developed in Nicaragua for all I care.  So long as En Masse provides an active stance when it comes to EULA violations I will be happy.  But stating that a game developed in Korea will fail is just bigoted, nonsensical jibberish.

    And yes, this is just you ranting.

    this game has a "heavy korean spirit" .i.e  take a look at lineage dark elves and then take look on the horned girl. Then type hentai on google.

     Your point?

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