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Well....patch 1.2 might kill it for me
yeah....before I start heres a link.
"One of the biggest improvements with the update is the addition of a Looking for Group tool. This was something everyone wanted, Hartsman said, but the team refused to rush it out the door in poor shape. It does what you would probably expect: Players can queue up for an instance by role (the system recognizes which builds you have and offers options for tank, healer, support and DPS) and then wait as the tool assembles the group for a cooperative adventure. Once a group is formed, the system thenn throws them into the maelstrom automatically. The LFG tool isn't just for dungeons, either; it's designed to help players get together for world quest content like epic or arena quests."
0 immersion.
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There were plenty of posts against it being implemented, so they are either blind or don't read their own forums. So no idea how they can claim everyone wanted it.
Most expert runs are internal to guilds now anyway, so they are a bit to late. Grouping for quests, etc, was never an issue, as one "anyone want to do x" in chat usually works. All it does is create a scenario for less communication.
Not that they didn't anyway, but they are copying more and more from WoW it seems. It would be nice to see some innervations instead. If we wanted to play WoW, we'd play it.
Yes, any tool that helps people find groups and get things done is absolutely terrible! Down with Trion!!!
Also, from the wording of the sentence he is saying that everyone at Trion wanted it not implying that all Rift players wanted it. So, you know, reading and all that.
Wow, what will people freak out about next? If you dont like it then dont use it. How will it break your immersion if you dont use it?
I for one DO want this. Badly. So thumbs up here.
Of course it will. If such a tiny improvement kills it for you, you must not have liked it that much in the first place. Every time they change a single tiny detail in the game there are always people crying that they're going to quit. Well feel free that's your choice but I know myself and many others that I play with are very excited about the coming changes, which are all aiming to improve gameplay. Good luck!
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Hmm, can see the risks for it. Tried Dungeons and Dragons on release, everyone sits in a central place (tavern) then goes off to an instance. There is no fantasy world . I can see most sitting in Sactum until there numbers called for some dungeon instance that you probably don't even know where it is. Then returning for the next.
There is a challenge for developers to help people find groups, it is a chore to keep spamming. There must be an innovative way of doing it, unfortunately Rift although a cracking game, is a little short on innovation. I can see them copying and refining someone elses group tool. We shall see.
I'm lazy when it comes to trying to get into a group and I dont have a lot of free time to play so I am for it as well
This is such a great point. All it took was one more change and "IM GONE". There was no hope for you staying in the first place. How does someone get to this state of mind. I like your game enough to play it today. But Im warning you if you do ONE thing I dont like Im out of here. Lolz to you.
To me seems they know what they are doing and and you are free not to use the tool so why bother?
Reading is fundamental...but when 99% of the internet populace can't even spell the word "you" correctly, how can you expect someone to actually grasp what is being read?
That Guild Wars 2 login screen knocked up my wife. Must be the second coming!
I'll go a step further and speculate that the OP /ragequit way before these patch notes came out. Or, never bothered to play Rift past beta (if at all) and is just one of those people who seem to enjoy bad-mouthing a game that many other people ejoy.
Again... I am merely speculating here... taking a page from the Glen Beck school of logic if will
Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, then beat you with experience.
Everyone should have seen this coming. Trion devs have been talking about implementing this since beta, stating long ago that they wanted a little more time ot make sure that it was implemented correctly.
If somehow you think spamming chat when LFG gives you better immersion, then I think the problem is with your own perception, not with Trion.
As usual people in minority are complaining about LFG tool. yes it was demanded by majority of players and Trion did its research before implementing this tool. Its a business and Trion will do what is best for the future of its games. Saying 'disease of WOW is spreading ' is just being over dramatic and insulting millions of players who are enjoying the game instead of bickering on forums here.
*raises eyebrow* It sounds like a good thing. I dunno, what do you guys hate it so much for? o.0
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Because endless spamming and begging for groups in general chat is more immersive for these people. Somehow typing 'lfg' over and over again makes one a lot more active compared to lazy people who just queue with help of LFG tool.
Read what they said. Not everyone (as they claim) wanted it. There is no indication they were referring to only TRION staff. If there was it wouldn't exactly be a good sign, that a company doesn't listen to the community.
If you ask the WoW community to name one thing that impacted the community spirit most, most would say it was the dungeon finder. TRION have no innovative skill, at least it seems that way. They've done nothing more than take WoW, minimise it and add versions of WAR's PQs, and for a token thrown in EQ2 artefact collections. People are enjoying it simply because its a proven recipe, and they did launch with polish. The problem is however its is nothing new and shallow, with little demonstration from TRION that they know how evolve the game without yet more copying. In its current state RIFT's end game is so close to WoW's Blizzard will continue to have the upper hand. WoW 4.1 is liketly to leave Rift gutted, until people burn out a gain. By which time something else is likely to be released. If they want to survive they need to start coming up with their own ideas.
EQ and DAoC both had LFG tools before WOW came out. You'd have to actually have played those games to know this, though.
The main gripe that people had about the LFG tool in WoW was that it fractured the community because it pooled from an entire battlegroup rather than just your server (There was no sense of community or sense of accountability). The Rift LFG tool only pools from your server. Not that it really matters anyways but it was something that people latched onto. In reality it doesn't matter because people are still arsehats regardless. Further, you are already able to teleport to your dungeon of choice once one person from the group enters the instance, so that point is moot as well.
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It's about time....
Good move Trion, this way people who want to be social can still be social and those who just want to log in, play some because real life give them enough socialization already..can do so.
Two thumbs up!
RIP Rift
So we'll see some gear score thing and unpersonal cross-servering next.
Except everyone is missing the point that these aren't Cross-server. You're still partying with people on your same server, so I don't see why everyone is up in arms about it? What's the big deal with having an interface that lets people post groupr equests as opposed to spamming chat?
Let's be honest here, there's nothing "immersive" about saying "Looking for healz for xxx instance. Must be geared".
And like you said, there's nothing stopping you from doing guild stuff if you're going to refuse using the LFG, or heck, fall back to chat. Chat based LFG is over and done with. Let it go and stop living in the past.. It's unhealthy.
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Did you perhaps consider there are more posts wanting it? No? Shocking.
Also, from the wording of the sentence he is saying that everyone at Trion wanted it not implying that all Rift players wanted it. So, you know, reading and all that.
Read what they said. Not everyone (as they claim) wanted it. There is no indication they were referring to only TRION staff. If there was it wouldn't exactly be a good sign, that a company doesn't listen to the community.
If you ask the WoW community to name one thing that impacted the communty spirit most, most would say it was the dungeon finder. TRION have no innovative skill, at least it seems that way. They've done nothing more than take WoW, minimise it and add versions of WAR's PQs, and for a token thrown in EQ2 artefact collections.
Yes, there is indication that he was talking about Trion staff. You may have missed it because its called "reading comprehension."
Perhaps Trion IS listening to the community and the majority DO want a Dungeon Finder
system but your bias against said system is preventing you from seeing that.
Also, no one cares about "community spirit", especially when it negatively affects gameplay.
Lastly, if Trion copies one more thing from Blizzard hopefully its ignoring the hateful player base that either quit already or is willing to quit at the drop of a hat. Its impossible to please these people so dont even try.
Trion has A LOT of plans for Rift !
Homie's not playing around..they are aggresive and dead serious about making Rift the best mmo possible.