Shroom take my word it is not even worth your time. Just do what I am about to do and give up on this site until after GW2 releases. It is becoming obvious where this hype is heading and it is TOR all over again.
Very well said. This website is only good for the forums, the people who write the articles are the biggest fanboys of every game. I wish there was more people(like those who were 'dismissed') who had real opinions on games rather than allowing their emotion to blind them about how poor the game actually is.
I agree with the original poster that some of the videos have too much lag for my taste. What worries me more is that these are mostly media who have computers that should be able to handle the game fine. The major concern for me isn't that certain videos had an obvious lack of good FPS, it's the massive hit they took to their FPS when they were around multiple players. I know what ArenaNet is having playing guild wars and I still don't understand why this game is being hyped up as much as it is.
I completely agree that after the giant failure that SWTOR is, I cannot trust most of the writers for MMORPG.com. They were so set on SWTOR being the greatest game ever and I'm willing to bet most of them have already given up on BioWare's MMO.
Because the game runs like complete garbage, even with so few in game, imaging if they let the masses in. Almost every video i have seen so far includes: Lag, a complete freeze up of the game of up to 2 seconds, Characters gliding across the ground or skippy framerates. The WvWvW videos appear to have 50 people around and the player can hardly walk because of the lag. Anet prolly should have kept the NDA on this crap, terrible first impressions from actual gameplay. ( I dont consider any videos from Anet actual gameplay.)
Also, not that i care because i dont PVE anymore, but the collision is prolly one of the worse i have ever seen. Sure its cool that the mobs charge you in a group and are not just standing around. But when pretty much every mob is inside of eachother galloping along, that coolness all of a sudden starts to fade.
Thats my 2 cents after watching beta videos all morning, I have no doubt that the lag issues will be mostly cleared up by release however the WvWvW lagging like that with 1/10 of the people its supposed to have has me very worried as this is my only reason for looking forward to this game (or any game in general.)
Are we watching the same thing? I've been watching this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzQCi7c0DuY and Mike B's and I didn't see what your seeing. Color me confused.
lmao seriously stop the fanboism you guys cant even accept the fact that there is lag in beta?
All hope is lost for these kids
Hell that video looks a lot different from this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzQCi7c0DuY I assume the one you posted the persons system just wasn't up to it. Lower graphic settings and more laggy where as the assault on the keep I watched in the above link the graphics looked better and I didnt see lag.
You need to step back from the computer and maybe not jump to conclusions. The issues I was seeing from step one of TOR is completely different from the feel I am getting from watching some of these videos.
lmao seriously stop the fanboism you guys cant even accept the fact that there is lag in beta?
All hope is lost for these kids
Hell that video looks a lot different from this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzQCi7c0DuY I assume the one you posted the persons system just wasn't up to it. Lower graphic settings and more laggy where as the assault on the keep I watched in the above link the graphics looked better and I didnt see lag.
You need to step back from the computer and maybe not jump to conclusions. The issues I was seeing from step one of TOR is completely different from the feel I am getting from watching some of these videos.
lmao seriously stop the fanboism you guys cant even accept the fact that there is lag in beta?
All hope is lost for these kids
Hell that video looks a lot different from this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzQCi7c0DuY I assume the one you posted the persons system just wasn't up to it. Lower graphic settings and more laggy where as the assault on the keep I watched in the above link the graphics looked better and I didnt see lag.
You need to step back from the computer and maybe not jump to conclusions. The issues I was seeing from step one of TOR is completely different from the feel I am getting from watching some of these videos.
Pretty sure the guy in your video is getting less than 20 FPS on average...
Framerate issues wouldn't surprise me though, as even FRAPS shouldn't make players with good PCs lag that bad. I can't think of an MMORPG released since LotRO that did not have major performance issues. One of the biggest reasons for WoW's success is its highly optimized game engine that can run on almost any computer. Can't believe that keeps getting overlooked.
Despite the exaggerated opening post, good performance is a major key for the possible success of GW2. Once the doors open for the public to test the GW2 beta, I do hope that W vs W vs W does not become a lag festival for the majority of the players. Major performance issues for the general population would be one of those failures that can crush a game no matter how good the rest of the game is.
His system bites to be blunt. I'm sure his system was smoking. Can't imagine adding Fraps to that as well. Ouch.
Please breathe a little, the thread is all green. This guy experienced the game and reported his experience. You didnt have the chance to play the game so be a little more humble.
His system bites to be blunt. I'm sure his system was smoking. Can't imagine adding Fraps to that as well. Ouch.
Are you argueing that there was no real performance drop when too many players were on the screen? I'm confused what you're trying to argue here. I really hope you're not blind to the *fact* that every single video of the massive PvP had enormous drops in FPS when they were drawing too many characters. Even the PvE events with the centaurs had a large amount of lag for some. Their computers could be p90's, but it doesn't let ArenaNet off the hook for the dramatic FPS drop during large scale fights.
I'm not saying that the game is crap because of the current FPS, but I am saying that it is alarming with so few people in this beta that people were expierencing that amount of lag.
His system bites to be blunt. I'm sure his system was smoking. Can't imagine adding Fraps to that as well. Ouch.
Please breathe a little, the thread is all green. This guy experienced the game and reported his experience. You didnt have the chance to play the game so be a little more humble.
Guy's comp really doesn't even suck either.
People, I mean just watch some videos. Even the city tours posted by MikeB don't exactly showcase silky smooth framerates. In the Divinity's Reach video, he even states that his FPS dropped to around 15.
all of the IGN videos run great, at completely maxed settings. fluke?
Lewis B from Tap Repeatedly said he used MSI Afterburner's recorder because it was smoother than FRAPS and much less load on the PC, i will post those videos when he uploads them.
His system bites to be blunt. I'm sure his system was smoking. Can't imagine adding Fraps to that as well. Ouch.
Are you argueing that there was no real performance drop when too many players were on the screen? I'm confused what you're trying to argue here. I really hope you're not blind to the *fact* that every single video of the massive PvP had enormous drops in FPS when they were drawing too many characters. Even the PvE events with the centaurs had a large amount of lag for some. Their computers could be p90's, but it doesn't let ArenaNet off the hook for the dramatic FPS drop during large scale fights.
I'm not saying that the game is crap because of the current FPS, but I am saying that it is alarming with so few people in this beta that people were expierencing that amount of lag.
I have yet to see game which doesnt have LARGE fps drops in realy MASS fights, im not sure if things you expect are even remotely possible with today state of technology used. Imo video from spanish site has acceptable performance .
Shroom take my word it is not even worth your time. Just do what I am about to do and give up on this site until after GW2 releases. It is becoming obvious where this hype is heading and it is TOR all over again.
GW2 fans are already making the cardinal mistake of labeling their game as perfect in every area with zero flaws. The closed beta reviews are flat out jokes and done by long term fans of the game. Every review I have seen has been done by some 6 year player of Guild Wars with a financial incentive to make nice with ArenaNET.
All it will do is build blind hype and attract people to the game who should not be playing.
Yes it is. Might say its Warhammer and AOC all over again as well. Same shit, different game.
Really? This game sucks and Im not having fun? Im going to unsub right now. Thanks for the tip.
For once, haters are receiving a truckload of backlash and I'm glad about it.
Anyway, are there really some people who believe that any lag/fps issue would not be worked out until release ? Especially from such a fine tuned game ? Especially with so much hype ?
Haters gonna be hated.
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lmao seriously stop the fanboism you guys cant even accept the fact that there is lag in beta?
All hope is lost for these kids
Hell that video looks a lot different from this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzQCi7c0DuY I assume the one you posted the persons system just wasn't up to it. Lower graphic settings and more laggy where as the assault on the keep I watched in the above link the graphics looked better and I didnt see lag.
You need to step back from the computer and maybe not jump to conclusions. The issues I was seeing from step one of TOR is completely different from the feel I am getting from watching some of these videos.
"performance is fine for a beta, most people just have no idea how to make videos".
^
and for the love of God please learn what actual term LAG means! It annoys the hell out of me when people are misuisng this word sooo much, lag this lag that etc. when it's not it!
Btw. performance issues or not, the WvWvW idea is at last something ....cool, that should be done way sooner.
I want you to take every other game and its press beta. Ok?
Now I want you to take GW2 Press beta. Ok?
What I want you to do is compare the QQ threads .
What you will find out GW2 has 1(ONE) thread about a bit of performance issue.
You see where I am going with this?
The truth may be puzzling. It may take some work to grapple with. It may be counterintuitive. It may contradict deeply held prejudices. It may not be consonant with what we desperately want to be true. But our preferences do not determine what's true.
Shroom take my word it is not even worth your time. Just do what I am about to do and give up on this site until after GW2 releases. It is becoming obvious where this hype is heading and it is TOR all over again.
GW2 fans are already making the cardinal mistake of labeling their game as perfect in every area with zero flaws. The closed beta reviews are flat out jokes and done by long term fans of the game. Every review I have seen has been done by some 6 year player of Guild Wars with a financial incentive to make nice with ArenaNET.
All it will do is build blind hype and attract people to the game who should not be playing.
Yes it is. Might say its Warhammer and AOC all over again as well. Same shit, different game.
Watch a couple of the 100 new videos out today and make up your own mind.
GW2 is honestly without doubt doing some thing very different from other MMORPGS - all it takes is a little research to see that.
Will these new things work out? Who knows - we won't know until people actually play the game.
But the people who HAVE played the game tend to think that yes, they do work out quite well.
They also show us a LOT of the game, PvE, instanced PvP, and open world PvP - all of which seem to function very well when compared to other titles.
The biggest thing about GW2 that is different? They don't have to worry about subscription retention.
Gw2 is going to be what, the 2nd B2P MMO ever released? With the first being GW1, though calling GW1 a MMO is debatable due to how it was structured, which Anet themselves fully admits.
I've seen just a few videos but I didn't see anything wrong, or at least what you are describing.
This. I saw a few WvWvW videos and I thought the game ran smoothly. Maybe it's the OP's internet connection or PC specs? Can you link to the videos where there was considerable lag?
Mission in life: Vanquish all MMORPG.com trolls - especially TESO, WOW and GW2 trolls.
I want you to take every other game and its press beta. Ok?
Now I want you to take GW2 Press beta. Ok?
What I want you to do is compare the QQ threads .
What you will find out GW2 has 1(ONE) thread about a bit of performance issue.
You see where I am going with this?
Absolutely, and that's why the MMORPG genre needed one awesome game again. So that the usual crap sprayers would be caught by surprise and naturally be flamed to hell. Darwin would do the rest.
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Beta...'nuff said. You're reaciting like this is the final product being pushed out the door. Let's all take a deep breath and let Anet do what needs to be done to release a polished product. No need to jump to conclusions or assume the worst from watching videos in a Beta that's closed and available to only a select number of people. I'm certain the final product will be much better.
You say this, yet a few months ago during SWTOR beta the exact same thing was going on, and we all thaught ohhh dont worry they will fix it before release. NOT, even a company with atleast 2x the budget of Anet couldnt get it right, so yea im a little worried.
Difference being, Bioware had EA breathing down their necks, screaming, "push it out the door!". This might not be the case with NCsoft and Anet. What difference does company budget make, anyway?
lmao seriously stop the fanboism you guys cant even accept the fact that there is lag in beta?
All hope is lost for these kids
Hell that video looks a lot different from this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzQCi7c0DuY I assume the one you posted the persons system just wasn't up to it. Lower graphic settings and more laggy where as the assault on the keep I watched in the above link the graphics looked better and I didnt see lag.
You need to step back from the computer and maybe not jump to conclusions. The issues I was seeing from step one of TOR is completely different from the feel I am getting from watching some of these videos.
"performance is fine for a beta, most people just have no idea how to make videos".
^
and for the love of God please learn what actual term LAG means! It annoys the hell out of me when people are misuisng this word sooo much, lag this lag that etc. when it's not it!
Btw. performance issues or not, the WvWvW idea is at last something ....cool, that should be done way sooner.
Actually lag is a broad term, fps lag, network lag, server response lag, etc. Performance problems are just the result of a ... lag. It annoys me when people are too smart for their own good.
I just dont understand how someone can say that this game looks like garbage. I didn't watch Guild war 2 beta videos all day, but the few I saw was definitely way better than what I had expected.
I just hope that WvWvW won't require you to have an extreme gaming rig to play, and that my slightly outdated labtop can still make my character an asset in those Sieges.
Thats my only concern, the concern on how its gonna affect me personally on my enjoyment of this game.
I recommend everyone to look at the video and make your own decisions, since these videos are free to view and are Safe for work. Because W v W v W is definitely a wonderful addition to the MMO world.
Life is a Maze, so make sure you bring your GPS incase you get lost in it.
I want you to take every other game and its press beta. Ok?
Now I want you to take GW2 Press beta. Ok?
What I want you to do is compare the QQ threads .
What you will find out GW2 has 1(ONE) thread about a bit of performance issue.
You see where I am going with this?
I lol'd
I might get banned for this. - Rizel Star.
I'm not afraid to tell trolls what they [need] to hear, even if that means for me to have an forced absence afterwards.
P2P LOGIC = If it's P2P it means longevity, overall better game, and THE BEST SUPPORT EVER!!!!!(Which has been rinsed and repeated about a thousand times)
Common Sense Logic = P2P logic is no better than F2P Logic.
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Very well said. This website is only good for the forums, the people who write the articles are the biggest fanboys of every game. I wish there was more people(like those who were 'dismissed') who had real opinions on games rather than allowing their emotion to blind them about how poor the game actually is.
I agree with the original poster that some of the videos have too much lag for my taste. What worries me more is that these are mostly media who have computers that should be able to handle the game fine. The major concern for me isn't that certain videos had an obvious lack of good FPS, it's the massive hit they took to their FPS when they were around multiple players. I know what ArenaNet is having playing guild wars and I still don't understand why this game is being hyped up as much as it is.
I completely agree that after the giant failure that SWTOR is, I cannot trust most of the writers for MMORPG.com. They were so set on SWTOR being the greatest game ever and I'm willing to bet most of them have already given up on BioWare's MMO.
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Are we watching the same thing? I've been watching this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzQCi7c0DuY and Mike B's and I didn't see what your seeing. Color me confused.
Hell that video looks a lot different from this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzQCi7c0DuY I assume the one you posted the persons system just wasn't up to it. Lower graphic settings and more laggy where as the assault on the keep I watched in the above link the graphics looked better and I didnt see lag.
You need to step back from the computer and maybe not jump to conclusions. The issues I was seeing from step one of TOR is completely different from the feel I am getting from watching some of these videos.
Ding! Ding! We have a winner! You need a very nice system to really not be beat down a bit if your running fraps.
Or as TB puts it:
"performance is fine for a beta, most people just have no idea how to make videos".
Pretty sure the guy in your video is getting less than 20 FPS on average...
Framerate issues wouldn't surprise me though, as even FRAPS shouldn't make players with good PCs lag that bad. I can't think of an MMORPG released since LotRO that did not have major performance issues. One of the biggest reasons for WoW's success is its highly optimized game engine that can run on almost any computer. Can't believe that keeps getting overlooked.
Despite the exaggerated opening post, good performance is a major key for the possible success of GW2. Once the doors open for the public to test the GW2 beta, I do hope that W vs W vs W does not become a lag festival for the majority of the players. Major performance issues for the general population would be one of those failures that can crush a game no matter how good the rest of the game is.
His system bites to be blunt. I'm sure his system was smoking. Can't imagine adding Fraps to that as well. Ouch.
Please breathe a little, the thread is all green. This guy experienced the game and reported his experience. You didnt have the chance to play the game so be a little more humble.
Are you argueing that there was no real performance drop when too many players were on the screen? I'm confused what you're trying to argue here. I really hope you're not blind to the *fact* that every single video of the massive PvP had enormous drops in FPS when they were drawing too many characters. Even the PvE events with the centaurs had a large amount of lag for some. Their computers could be p90's, but it doesn't let ArenaNet off the hook for the dramatic FPS drop during large scale fights.
I'm not saying that the game is crap because of the current FPS, but I am saying that it is alarming with so few people in this beta that people were expierencing that amount of lag.
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Thage
Guy's comp really doesn't even suck either.
People, I mean just watch some videos. Even the city tours posted by MikeB don't exactly showcase silky smooth framerates. In the Divinity's Reach video, he even states that his FPS dropped to around 15.
Thanks for posting those Fony. Those look damn good.
Wat?
No. I can post untrue things on the internet too!
He who keeps his cool best wins.
I have yet to see game which doesnt have LARGE fps drops in realy MASS fights, im not sure if things you expect are even remotely possible with today state of technology used. Imo video from spanish site has acceptable performance .
Yes it is. Might say its Warhammer and AOC all over again as well. Same shit, different game.
Really? This game sucks and Im not having fun? Im going to unsub right now. Thanks for the tip.
For once, haters are receiving a truckload of backlash and I'm glad about it.
Anyway, are there really some people who believe that any lag/fps issue would not be worked out until release ? Especially from such a fine tuned game ? Especially with so much hype ?
Haters gonna be hated.
***** Before hitting that reply button, please READ the WHOLE thread you're about to post in *****
^
and for the love of God please learn what actual term LAG means! It annoys the hell out of me when people are misuisng this word sooo much, lag this lag that etc. when it's not it!
Btw. performance issues or not, the WvWvW idea is at last something ....cool, that should be done way sooner.
If you guys notice.
I want you to take every other game and its press beta. Ok?
Now I want you to take GW2 Press beta. Ok?
What I want you to do is compare the QQ threads .
What you will find out GW2 has 1(ONE) thread about a bit of performance issue.
You see where I am going with this?
The truth may be puzzling. It may take some work to grapple with. It may be counterintuitive. It may contradict deeply held prejudices. It may not be consonant with what we desperately want to be true. But our preferences do not determine what's true.
Carl Sagan-
Watch a couple of the 100 new videos out today and make up your own mind.
GW2 is honestly without doubt doing some thing very different from other MMORPGS - all it takes is a little research to see that.
Will these new things work out? Who knows - we won't know until people actually play the game.
But the people who HAVE played the game tend to think that yes, they do work out quite well.
They also show us a LOT of the game, PvE, instanced PvP, and open world PvP - all of which seem to function very well when compared to other titles.
The biggest thing about GW2 that is different? They don't have to worry about subscription retention.
Gw2 is going to be what, the 2nd B2P MMO ever released? With the first being GW1, though calling GW1 a MMO is debatable due to how it was structured, which Anet themselves fully admits.
This. I saw a few WvWvW videos and I thought the game ran smoothly. Maybe it's the OP's internet connection or PC specs? Can you link to the videos where there was considerable lag?
Mission in life: Vanquish all MMORPG.com trolls - especially TESO, WOW and GW2 trolls.
Absolutely, and that's why the MMORPG genre needed one awesome game again. So that the usual crap sprayers would be caught by surprise and naturally be flamed to hell. Darwin would do the rest.
***** Before hitting that reply button, please READ the WHOLE thread you're about to post in *****
Difference being, Bioware had EA breathing down their necks, screaming, "push it out the door!". This might not be the case with NCsoft and Anet. What difference does company budget make, anyway?
Actually lag is a broad term, fps lag, network lag, server response lag, etc. Performance problems are just the result of a ... lag. It annoys me when people are too smart for their own good.
I just dont understand how someone can say that this game looks like garbage. I didn't watch Guild war 2 beta videos all day, but the few I saw was definitely way better than what I had expected.
I just hope that WvWvW won't require you to have an extreme gaming rig to play, and that my slightly outdated labtop can still make my character an asset in those Sieges.
Thats my only concern, the concern on how its gonna affect me personally on my enjoyment of this game.
I recommend everyone to look at the video and make your own decisions, since these videos are free to view and are Safe for work. Because W v W v W is definitely a wonderful addition to the MMO world.
Life is a Maze, so make sure you bring your GPS incase you get lost in it.
I lol'd
I might get banned for this. - Rizel Star.
I'm not afraid to tell trolls what they [need] to hear, even if that means for me to have an forced absence afterwards.
P2P LOGIC = If it's P2P it means longevity, overall better game, and THE BEST SUPPORT EVER!!!!!(Which has been rinsed and repeated about a thousand times)
Common Sense Logic = P2P logic is no better than F2P Logic.